BS: BNP: What would you do?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:27 AM

I just love waking up you old hippies! You are so complacement to point of being comatose.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:08 AM

""Funny really - I never thought I'd be glad to see a Tory win an election. Apart, of course, from our own Cllr Mike Gibson, who started this thread, and who has regained his seat in Bedfordshire after working bloody hard for the people there.""


Funny, I thought I'd always be glad to see a Tory win, but I can't help feeling that THIS kind of total wipeout isn't good for either the winners or the losers.

When either side becomes that powerful, they tend to govern dictatorially. The will of the people is forgotten when there is NO effective opposition.

The major fault of the last two governments, Tory and New Labour, has been the seemingly inevitable drifting off into a place where they have lost touch with REAL life.

At least the OLD Labour people knew who they represented, although one or two were terminally crooked, or incompetent.

I think I'd want to see a much closer balance than that at the general election.

Still, at least the BNP got their answer; A RESOUNDING NO!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 10:50 PM

I guess that's not really an opinion. If he says he's sick, he's probably sick.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 08:41 PM

"I am a white Anglo Saxon male who is just sick to fu7ck of being told what to think by the clattering classes!"

You are welcome to say whatever and think whatever you like.

You are free to think that the sun is a big orange if you like.

But You'd be wrong.

There is no evidence to support your opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:28 PM

OOps! Steve said a naught word. Sorry forum, I'll try not to let it happen again.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:23 PM

Unless there has been a cookiejacking, Paco Rabanne has been posting here as a member for yonks.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:18 PM

Paco Rabanne

The people have voted and BNP and there racist attitudes got nowhere (2 out of 2036 councillor in 30 county/unitary councils with 4 to officially declare).

If you don't like living in what from the majority viewpoint is British Society, then fuck off to some deserted island where you can play white supremacists to your hearts content and prove to the rest of the world that your vision for society works.

But two things.....

(1) Don't expect any help form the rest of us.
(2) Who will you blame when you mess up? - you will have to find some minority or other from your master race - the overweight, the too short, the too tall, those who wear glasses?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 04:03 PM

"'Mass immigraint will be the ruin of this country'"


                  It will be the ruin of the world!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:36 PM

i don't know what happened there, my pc decided i had said enough.

what i was going to ask is, is there any way of finding out if this new troll is posting from the same place as dmr?

as for you new friend paco rabanne, if you really don't like how this country is at the moment, feel free to move elsewhere. we would miss the sparkling conversation. i don't have a problem with immigration but i do have a problem with people not TRYING to learn the language i would at least rty if i was in another country.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:33 PM

Is this the same Paco Rabanne that posted this two years ago:

I work in the Construction Industry, and we employ a hell of a lot of Poles (at Full English payrates incidentally) because we simply can't get enough English bricklayers/joiners etc.
Every man jack of them is polite, courteous, hard working, and most speak better English than I do.
My new NHS dentist is Polish too.Three of them set up a practise near us thank God!None of my family have had an NHS dentist for years since all the English greedy bastards went private!!
                        Up the poles!
So, what's happened to change the tune, or is it the colour of the skin that's important?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:33 PM

"Mass immigraint will be the ruin of this country"

Hmmmm...that`s what the locals said when the Anglos-Saxons invaded England, a thousand years ago or so...really you shouldn't fall asleep in history class!!

being racist is a problem...YOU have a problem. enough said.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:27 PM

ah it seems we have another freind. have you actually read this thread? probably not.

can we find out

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:12 PM

No I haven't. I am a white Anglo Saxon male who is just sick to fu7ck of being told what to think by the clattering classes! Mass immigraint will be the ruin of this country

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:07 PM

"Paco Rabanne"
troll alert!!

I have no problem with Muslims
being non white (North American Native) myself I have every sympathy with them, however I have NO sympathy with racist low-lives.

I notice like all the racist trolls who visit this thread, you have a hard time with your spelling "Paco Rabanne"....you,ve got a problem.....

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:02 PM

To be really really serious for a moment. England has recently been swamped with muslim immigrants intent on our destruction or conversion to the Muslim faith. Not only do we let them in we fund them through the social services, when are we, the indigenous race going to be allowed to have our country back? Do we have to be beco9me an endandagered to get our own island back?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 02:52 PM

Well, it looks like the Conservative Nina Phillips won the Cepen Park and Redlands ward. So tomorrow doesn't belong to the BNP in Chippenham, with only 114 people voting for the race-hate party.
Funny really - I never thought I'd be glad to see a Tory win an election. Apart, of course, from our own Cllr Mike Gibson, who started this thread, and who has regained his seat in Bedfordshire after working bloody hard for the people there.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 02:48 PM

vote BNP, shove it up the rectucms of our elellers and betters

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 02:43 PM

so the big question is how many votes did this woman actually get?

does she admit to making a VERY BIG MISTAKE and if so should and could the freindship ever get back to normal?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM

It appears the loud-mouthed DMR has crawled back under the stone from which she/he first appeared, no great loss....

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:06 AM

the BNP do not deserve a vote,they have no more idea of how to make the capitalist system work,than my dog.
they thrive on negativity.but their solutions will not turn economic slump into economic success.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:31 AM

Looks like they haven't got that many friends after all ...


Don't let your friend off the hook too soon. They need to show they understand what is wrong with the BNP if they are to be believed.

I would meet up with them but I would damn well have the argument with them and see just how much they have really rchanged their ways.

As long as they uttered one racist point of view I would think up ever more effective ways to blow their argument out of the water.

Ideally I would ultimately do so in such a way that they had to admit, whatever about the evil of BNP views, that they simply aren't based in reality and their is no evidence to support them.

Evidence speaks louder than any argument (I know thats rich coming from me)and if you can provide evidence that proves your BNP friend wrong so that they can't deny that you are right, then that might be the way to wake them up.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: goatfell
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 04:33 AM

This is a thread about the BRITISH NAZI PARTY AND THEIR FRIENDS

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 04:12 AM

"The Conservatives have retained overall control of Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections - but it was the manner of their victory that looks ominous for Gordon Brown and Labour.

The local authority was one of only a handful of councils to hold its counts after the closure of its polling stations and the results were being studied beyond the East Midlands ahead of the counts later.

And Labour was nearly wiped off the county council's electoral map altogether as the Tories made sweeping gains.

The threat of an early BNP breakthrough never materialised. A small number of independent candidates scored victories.

2009 © Press Association

So, DMR, what drivel to you have to give us now?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Gervase
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:59 AM

Well, it depends...
If she's realised what a bunch of creeps the BNP are because she's discovered at first hand the ignorance, paranoia and hatred that drives them, then I hope she's now sitting thinking, 'Why the f*ck did I even think of doing that?'
And, armed with that experience, she can now tell people exactly why a vote for the BNP is a vote for intolerance, division and discord, and that no-one should be taken in by the bland, quasi-wholesome image the party tries to put over in its public offerings.
But if she hasn't seen the heart of darkness within the BNP, or if she willingly embraces it, then I'd imagine that any friendship with normal people would be difficult.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:46 AM

It does matter if ex friend still remains a BNP member. But I would say something like - reflact on the result at the polling station, look at all the evidence about what BNP is really about, and let me know where you stand from now on as the door to rebuilding the friendship is open, but the onus is on the personto take the right step.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: fiddler
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:38 AM

So what do you all say to Mike (and me) when our ex friend (mbsGeorge) turns up and says - well I wasn't elected so it doesn't matter any more!

Suggestions please.

Andy

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 06:46 PM

I wonder if The Netherlands are any indication!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:59 PM

The battle against the racist BNP and their thugs will go on regardless.

remember and learn:
The White Rose: A Lesson in Dissent

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:40 PM

Well, to coin a phrase it is all over now bar the shouting (count). The good folks have done their best to help people see through the lies and deceit of the BNP with evidence for what they really stand for.

Maybe it has had an impact, maybe not.

But this isn't the end of the work. If the BNP have won seats, then as folkies, and in particular anyone who has any affinity whatsoever to the civil rights movements, and the liberties that were hard fought for, we owe it to our consciences to scrutinise the words and deeds of BNP both in and outside local and European authorities so that promotion of racial division, fascism and neo-naziism in any form is brought to public attention.

Steve Belsey
Anti-Facist

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:43 AM

you don't have to say who you voted for that is your' own business, although anyone who does vote for the bnp and i know that is NOT you r.m!! beware admitting it on here,watch out because they might just get lynched. no threat just a friendly word of warning

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:35 AM

It' s done, for good or ill, I've voted. How did I vote? That's the joy of the secret ballot, you don't have to say, do you?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 08:16 AM

As I said somewhere else earlier today - a refusal to vote is a vote for the BNP

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 08:08 AM

To anyone who hasn't voted....

Be grateful that you live in a country where you have the freedom to express your choice of representative at the ballot box and look back at states where facists have come to power and taken away that freedom.

Vote, and think carefully about who are are voting for and why.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:41 AM

http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/page/invite/pollingday

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:23 AM

Been and done it. Some agonising about whether to vote Green or Socialist Labour, but in the end the only effective way to vote against the British Nazi Party and the almost as loathsome conservatives was to vote Labour.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:25 AM

Do not forget to vote today. If you want to make a protest vote don't base it on what the BNP say, but look at all the evidence in this thread that shows that the BNP are a party of racist, facist bigots.

Also, remind your friends to vote.

And keep your finger crossed that after today Britain and Europe will not be a nastier place to live.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:23 AM

Just on my way to do the deed. The good news is that the latest MORI poll puts the BNP on 4%, which is not enough for them to make the breakthrough. That is still contingent on decent numbers of decent people turning out to vote for any of the other parties of course.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 07:13 PM

What Fred and Jeddy said. Please make sure you use your vote to ensure this openly fascist, proudly racist party don't get a genuine foothold in British politics. If they do we'll all be regetting it for a long time. There is no justification for their politics of hate. A protest vote for the BNP is a vote for bigotry. Don't go there.

Hope not hate.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 06:46 PM

my postal vote has gone already so my concience is clear. i hope everyone else can say the same in two days time and not sit there thinking "i could hve stopped this" may the gods look down on us with mercy and contempt for the bnp.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 09:53 AM

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/A-Z-of-the-BNP.php

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 03 Jun 09 - 05:32 AM

The following has been said several times on this thread already. Nevertheless, it is important that it is repeated at least once more before the polls close tomorrow night.

If you're resident in the UK, please make sure you get out and vote tomorrow. That applies for the local elections obviously, but even more so for the Euro-election. That one is particularly important because the results are decided by proportional representation and a share of the overall vote.

Voter apathy would mean that the BNP only needed to convince a very small percentage of the overall electorate, and they have been campaigning like mad for weeks now. They will certainly get their own supporters into the polling booths, even though there's not many of them. But there's also an indeterminate number of people out there who may end up voting BNP simply because they are disaffected by the present MPs' expenses scandal. Therefore a low poll could easily end up with the BNP taking seats, not by the democratic will of the electorate, but by default.

DON'T LET IT HAPPEN!

No British fascist has ever held major political office. If British Nazi Party members become the first ones to do so, that will be a huge triumph on their part. What's more, it will unlock shedloads of EU funding for them to spread their vicious logic, and it will give them a forum to cosy up to all their fascist mates in the EU parliament.

If you're so cheesed off that you just don't feel like bothering, remember the words attributed to that wise old sage, Edmund Burke. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Don't be one of the ones who let evil triumph.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 11:37 AM

I think I should point out that freedom of speech does not include the right falsely to shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre - see Oliver Wendell Holmes, US Supreme court, Schenck -v- US 1919.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 11:16 AM

""I visited the BNP site last night and there are a lot of World War Two veterans smiling in photographs out on the campaign trail for the party."

The Nazis were very good at using doctored photographs, mind you the allies also pulled the same trick once in awhile.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Gren
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 10:38 AM

My home town was visited by a bunch of BNP creeps, weirdos and bigots last saturday.What a shower!They came armed with a bunch of leaflets and a camcorder and a generous dose of race hatred.

Luckily, they were met by around 20 anti fascists with a megaphone who were only to willing to speak out about the BNPs race hatred,fascism and nazism.And they did not like the photocopies we brought with us showing Tyndall the first BNP leader in full nazi uniform posing in front of a framed picture of his hero, Adolph, and a giant swastika.

They weren't too keen on the present leader fatboy Griffin in his racist white power T shirt leading a nazi National Front march.And those misfits,cranks and thugs certainly did not like being called, via the megaphone , nazi thugs and bigots.What a collection of oafs !

No wonder Griffin had to send out a training manual to all his candidates and activist thugs.
Gren

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Mary Brennan
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 09:20 AM

She's not Cornish though. She lives in Devon. I've forgotten where her roots are - but it's not Cornwall!

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,BRITISHMAN
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 06:10 AM

I thought te flag was BRITISH and not just England, CORNISH PASTIE, BUT THEN cORNWALL DOESN'T FEEL AS IT BELONGS TO ENGLAND

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Stu
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 05:15 AM

"I visited the BNP site last night and there are a lot of World War Two veterans smiling in photographs out on the campaign trail for the party."

Would those be soldiers who fought against the enemy that carried out the Holocaust your miscreant leader denies actually happened?

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: GUEST,Mary Brennan
Date: 02 Jun 09 - 04:03 AM

My dad fought in WW2 as well. He wouldn't talk about it.

It doesn't prove anything.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: jeddy
Date: 01 Jun 09 - 09:02 PM

thankyou lox, i know my memory is shot but i didn't think i was mad as well. well for now at least i know i'm not.

Subject: RE: BS: BNP: What would you do?
From: Lox
Date: 01 Jun 09 - 08:03 PM

Just to confirm that the above posts are all mine.

Though I do worry sometimes that by not signing in every time I run the risk of being impersonated.

At the moment I am only to be found on this thread and the even more partisan Susan Boyle thread.

And I am now signed in and will not delete my cookie tonight if that offers any reassurance.