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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 05 May 10 - 12:21 AM Oh that's okay. I didn't bother to look at it but there are hundreds of thousands of stupid ass pages clogging the web. Yours are just a few more from yet another nutjob striving to be somebody.....although you also can claim the time spent buried up that elephant's ass toward a Guiness record.......... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 05 May 10 - 12:17 AM Michael, I was born the year before Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected president. I am old enough to remember World War II. And, I might add, despite my age, my mind is quite clear and my memory is very tenacious, thank you. I have heard this nonsense about how the Rockefellers, the DuPonts, and a number of others were (are)—although the cast of villains has changed over the years—going to take over the world and enslave us all. Seven decades have passed and it hasn't happened. I am reminded of the many times I've heard that the End of the World will occur on such-and-such a date. The date comes and passes, and lo! the world is still hear. It doesn't stop the same people, totally unembarrassed by the fact that they still exist in mortal from, from shrugging their shoulders and setting another date a bit further forward. Then again. And again. And yet again. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 05 May 10 - 12:04 AM Speaking of asses, it's been a pleasure handing yours to you on a platter. Look at the articles on that page. Evidence of eugenics is indeed all around. And I've just begun. That page can be added to the rest of my life. And I might not have pursued it without your abuse catspaw. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 04 May 10 - 11:47 PM "And I don't think I'm looking at the wrong end of the issue..." Actually you are. Ever since you were at the Circus and that elephant sat on you......well, you've been fucked up. But I can be tolerant. I know it must be hard to have any viewpoint at all with your head so deep up an elephant's ass. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 04 May 10 - 10:49 PM Only those who volunteer their energies, Michael. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 04 May 10 - 10:26 PM http://www2.moment.net/~michael/Eugenics.htm Updated, it at least has the shape of the final piece. I'll make adjustments. A page with my thesis at the top, a numbered outline, then articles referring back to the outline. Plus a page of quotes. Both pages will be added to as time permits. I found that "eugenics" didn't adequately cover what I was describing, so I expanded the scope to encompass the various ways in which the ruling elite keep our numbers down. And I don't think I'm looking at the wrong end of the issue, Don Firth. Maybe I am, but I don't think so. I think most on this forum are older, and I expect there's experience here going back to WW2 and back into the eugenics programs of the 30's, so that's a personal perspective I don't have. But the thing is, the people who run the world take advantage of our compassion in order to make us self-regulate. None of us wants someone else to live a life of misery, so we're receptive to ideas on how to alleviate that misery. And if we abort/kill/sterilize, well that's just one less life the Windsor/Dupont/Rockefellers have to take in an expensive war. They use our good intentions against us, and they do it for their own gain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 04 May 10 - 08:19 PM http://www.shoaheducation.com/lebensborn.html I should tell you a story about a Jewish American man who served in WW 11 and adopted a Lebensborn boy with blonde hair and blue eyes. It is a story that proves that nurture rules all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 04 May 10 - 09:37 AM ""But he must have evolved from something!"" You reckon? I'd have said devolved, or more accurately regressed. Homo Sapiens with nowt left but the sap! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 04 May 10 - 06:38 AM "There is NO DENYING the natural world would be a better place without people – ALL people! Not a selective bunch. Get it straight." Rebecca Calisi, student of Eric Pianka Some odd quotes here: http://www.infowars.com/eugenics-quotes-from-lofty-ideals-to-highly-centralized-population-control-run-by-psychopathic-maniacs/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Sawzaw Date: 04 May 10 - 01:14 AM Jesse did say he wanted to cut Barry's nuts off so there must be something to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 04 May 10 - 01:13 AM You're looking up the wrong end of the horse, Michael. You have things totally bass-ackward. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 03 May 10 - 11:36 PM Obama's DeathCare is bringing back the sterilization clinics. He doubled funding for "Progressives" have a long history of "looking after" their inferiors by murdering them. It's not too late to change your ways, Amos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 03 May 10 - 11:16 PM You know, Michael, if you omit enough data and take enough things out of their context, you can make the sanest group in the world look like a band of gibbering banderlogs. Of course, you have to distort the information like mad in order to do that, but this seems quite within your capacity to do. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 03 May 10 - 11:05 PM http://www2.moment.net/~michael/Eugenics.htm My evening's work. Amazing quotes. Hundreds, thousands of them. This is just a supplementary page and I could add to it for weeks. This'll take a while. I'm glad to see my "superiors" have spent the day making 'tard jokes. Gliberals. I'd forgotten about National Security Study Memorandum 200. Kissinger's genocide plan. Look at what Clowes has to say about it at the bottom of that page. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 03 May 10 - 10:33 PM No -- it could just be that people with a certain gene wander off cliffs. And the predator has to actually select the prey in such a way as to kill off the members of the prey species with certain hertiable traits (for instance the gazelles with "slow" genes get et and thus the herd as a whole has fewer "slow" genes and so the % of the herd without them continues to grow until that gene is gone). If a predator just preys randomly, and there is no trait that the prey share, then nothing is selected for or against. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 10:10 PM Doesn't there have to be a preditor? I mean like a school marm or a trombone player from the Salvation Army, or something? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 03 May 10 - 08:41 PM Then THEY have to do something to kill themselves. That's kinda how that evolution stuff works. Otherwise it's just random noise and not evolution at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 07:18 PM "And this is bad... why?" The people driving the cars that weren't hit by drunk drivers might have been genetically defective. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Bill D Date: 03 May 10 - 07:05 PM 3 days I've been gone, and others have said most of what *I* would have said to our resident paranoid fearmonger....I'll just add my comment of his thread title: "Eugenics -- evidence all around you" 'Evidence' has a bit tighter definition than THAT sort of linguistic Gerrymandering! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 03 May 10 - 05:35 PM There's a certain amount of Darwinism that takes place as a result of unintentional consequences. Like Mothers-Against-Drunk-Drivers, for instance. They've moved to save the people who might have been killed by drunk drivers, but guitar players who used to do gigs in bars are now compelled to stay home and drink themselves to death. And this is bad... why? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 03 May 10 - 03:40 PM Just how many politicians, present and future, would exist with Eugenics? OK, I know that's a benefit...But, how just how well would Michael measure up, under a human eugenics approach to reproduction? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Gervase Date: 03 May 10 - 01:36 PM Since when have they been installing PCs in lunatic asylums? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 01:27 PM But he must have evolved from something! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 03 May 10 - 12:46 PM Evolution is often misdefined as the law of the jungle, red in tooth and claw. That is only part of the overall picture. This crude mechanistic view of Darwinism is (IMHO) misinformed. THere are lots of excellent aspects to good survival that focus on ideals, justice, aesthetics and ethics which support the species' broad survival without the tooth and claw aspect of single-organism survival. Anyway, Michael is a nutball, to put it gently. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: SINSULL Date: 03 May 10 - 12:30 PM My son attended a special ed school. A parent there shared with me that social workers had recommended sterilation for her daughter who is severely retarded. The girl is everyone's friend and a perfect target for anyone wanting easy sex. She would be incapable of handling pregnancy nevermind a child. Eugenics? The goal is to protect the girl from herself. Her mother, by the way, decided against it for a variety of reasons. Now she hopes that a pregnancy doesn't happen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 12:10 PM There's a certain amount of Darwinism that takes place as a result of unintentional consequences. Like Mothers-Against-Drunk-Drivers, for instance. They've moved to save the people who might have been killed by drunk drivers, but guitar players who used to do gigs in bars are now compelled to stay home and drink themselves to death. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 May 10 - 06:12 AM One thing that makes that kind of distortion more plausible is that there is that there is a history of that kind of thing happening - policies aimed at getting rid of "inferior" people which have been disguised as ways of helping them. The result is that when that kind of accusation gets raised in the context of things happening today, it can sound plausible enough, even if it may not in fact be true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 03 May 10 - 02:12 AM In poorer countries that have no systems to take care of the elderly, the children have to take care of their parents when they reach old age. To assure themselves that they will have someone to take care of them, and because of the high rate of infant and childhood mortality—due to easily preventable diseases—couples have many children in order to make sure that there will be someone to care for them. With a double-edged program, such as vaccinations to prevent childhood mortality AND good sexual and reproductive health programs (including birth control and post-natal care), couples would not feel the need to have large broods of children (an heir and a spare, and another spare, and just in case, another spare, and another, and. . . .). And women could exert some control over their own bodies and decide when enough is enough. Thereby reducing the explosive birth rate in poorer countries. Michael, you simply don't understand—or with your mind-set, don't want to understand—what Bill and Melinda Gates, and others, are talking about. The idea that the purpose of the vaccines is to either kill people off or to sterilize them is another example of the befuddled nightmares that conspiracy-theory paranoiacs (of the kind you are showing every symptom of being) are so fond of embracing. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Rowan Date: 02 May 10 - 10:56 PM Of course, if you are not full of US-biassed versions of hoe words are used, you might see the UNFPA material accessible from a URL visible at the same link; A full sexual and reproductive health package includes: Family planning/birth spacing services Antenatal care, skilled attendance at delivery, and postnatal care Management of obstetric and neonatal complications and emergencies Prevention of abortion and management of complications resulting from unsafe abortion Prevention and treatment of reproductive tract infections and sexually transmitted infections including HIV/AIDS Early diagnosis and treatment for breast and cervical cancer Promotion, education and support for exclusive breast feeding Prevention and appropriate treatment of sub-fertility and infertility Active discouragement of harmful practices such as female genital cutting Adolescent sexual and reproductive health Prevention and management of gender-based violence Most of those who are properly informed in this field understand that, when women are able to exert effective control over their reproductive abilities, birthrates decrease. Which is, I suspect, what Gates was implying. Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 02 May 10 - 10:33 PM Okay, back to the beginning on this one. Bill Gates said, "First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent." Pay attention. He's talking about OVERPOPULATION and what he wants to do about it. He wants to lower it by 10 or 15 percent. How does he propose to do that? With vaccines, health care, and reproductive health services. Reproductive health services are abortions. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=reproductive+health+services&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= And as we've seen with the recently-passed Obamacare bill, "health care" is the rationing of life-saving medical care. And vaccines...did you do your homework and read about Baxter trying to murder all of Europe? Bill Gates just ADMITTED he's a genocidalist. He couldn't have made it more plain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 02 May 10 - 10:23 PM Always good to get an outsider's opinion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 02 May 10 - 10:06 PM Eugenic breeding helped the wolf evolve into the Taco Bell dog; just think what Mike could do for the human race. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 02 May 10 - 10:01 PM Too much myth-information |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 02 May 10 - 09:41 PM Sorry to hear about your blood pressure, Rumpy, but I might suggest that if you can't stand heat, don't sit on the barbeque. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 02 May 10 - 06:08 PM "I read the thread title as Eunics--evidence all around you." Yeah, you'd only have to look at the Democratic party too... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 02 May 10 - 02:42 AM I dunno, Rumpo, why do you choose to do things you don't want to do? Seriously if you don't like reading and posting here, just don't. Just say no, as Nancy Reagan said to Alzheimer's. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: GUEST,Uncle Rumpo Date: 02 May 10 - 02:08 AM I have permanent hyper high blood pressure and internal bleeding in my head I guess my time is limited.. so why is my remaining short life span wasted having to cope with all you other peoples retarded hate fueled theories on how the world was, is and should be.. I'm f@cked off with the lot of you stupid c@nts goodnight |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: LilyFestre Date: 01 May 10 - 10:44 PM I read the thread title as Eunics--evidence all around you. Oy. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: olddude Date: 01 May 10 - 10:04 PM Paranoid schizophrenia seek help please |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 01 May 10 - 09:32 PM What works for dog and cat control should work on itchy member. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 01 May 10 - 09:13 PM IckyMicky dude....Feel free to start a thousand websites. Seriously dickless, ain't nary a soul here that gives even a tiny shit. Lemmee know when you do an autobiographical site about how you pulled yourself up from a mattress stain to a pathetic, broke-dick, shit-for-brains................... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 01 May 10 - 08:22 PM "More later... " Why just not let us Google the delusional paronia for ourselves? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 01 May 10 - 08:10 PM What you call "hitting a nerve" Michael is actually just your own stupidity and bias stirring up irritation among people who are more interested in being thinkers than histrionic paranoids. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 01 May 10 - 07:29 PM "Love it when I hit a nerve." Proves the only reason you come here - certainly not for the music. "look up Baxter Inc. and the genocide they attempted in Eastern Europe" Only proves how screwed up your head and how high your level of clinical paranoia is. "Rationality and science march on. Stupidity and superstition also seem to march relentlessly on, and it's a perpetual race to see which will win." Thanks, Don. You forgot psychosis. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 01 May 10 - 07:18 PM Squeeeeeeeal! Love it when I hit a nerve. Gotta go, but look up Baxter Inc. and the genocide they attempted in Eastern Europe... Hell, I'll look it up for you... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=baxter+pharmaceutical+genocide&aq=f&aqi=g3&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= That was last winter, when the talking heads were telling you to get your flu shots. And money has nothing to do with nothing. Money as motive. No. Money is NOT the motive when it comes to eugenics. Money is just a tool in the hands of the insane, inbred families that run the world. Like the Windsor family (formerly known as the Saxe Coberg-Gothas, had to change the name because they're NAZIS). More later... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 01 May 10 - 07:16 PM Yeah, I did! Back in the 1930s. That was before Salk. Can't say's I recommend it. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Paul Burke Date: 01 May 10 - 07:08 PM Oh. A vaccine nut. Get polio. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 01 May 10 - 07:02 PM ALL pharmaceuticals are toxic if you take large enough amounts. Which is why the prescription, or the instructions on the bottle or package warn one not to take more that the specified dose. Hell's bells, ANYTHING can be toxic in large enough doses. You can't live for more than a few days without water. But if you drink enough water at one time, it will wash all the nutrients and electrolytes out of your body and your nervous system will begin to malfunction. You will die if the electrolytes are not soon replaced. This is the whole purpose of such sport drinks as Gatorade: to replace the electrolytes an athlete (or anyone else) loses when he or she sweats like a pig during strenuous activity. Oxygen. Absolutely essential if we are to live for more that a few minutes! But if you spend more than a few minutes in a 100% oxygen atmosphere are the normal atmospheric pressure of 14.7 psi., you will die of oxygen poisoning. There is an ongoing investigation about a possible connection between certain vaccines and the incidence of childhood autism, but as yet, there is no real evidence of a causal connection. But in general, this wheeze about vaccines being poisonous has been around since the time of Jenner. Yet many dreaded diseased that used to obliterate people by the tens or hundreds of thousands have all but been wiped out since the advent of vaccines. Rationality and science march on. Stupidity and superstition also seem to march relentlessly on, and it's a perpetual race to see which will win. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 01 May 10 - 07:01 PM Or don't. Your smug, ill-informed condescension is without foundation, Michael, and your obsession with your own rightness will lead you to a fruitless life. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 01 May 10 - 06:48 PM "That's British Petroleum doing what it can to sterilize the Caribbean." Nope it's just British Petroleum doing what it can to make as much money as it can, as fast as it can, before what it does gets outlawed. "Sigh. Okay, I'll put together a page on eugenics next week. You folks oughta know this stuff already." So why come here, start threads and annoy us in the first place then - you KNOW you can't teach a pig to sing, so just do up your web page in the first place mate. |
