Subject: RE: O Carolan's tribute From: Commander Crabbe Date: 09 Sep 09 - 08:05 PM Fearghal it is also on "The Sound of the Fureys and Davy Arthur". http://www.tagtuner.com/music/albums/The-Fureys-&-Davey-Arthur/The-Sound-of-The-Fureys-&-Davey-Arthur/album-v2cf9b CC |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Tattie Bogle Date: 08 Sep 09 - 09:02 PM Fearghal, the only other recording I could find is on Itunes or Amazon, by "Screaming Orphans": you can just buy the one track if that's what you want. Nothing came up on all the Furey's currently available CDs. |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Smokey. Date: 08 Sep 09 - 08:47 PM I thought this was a possibility (from Wiki) : It is also believed that its origin may stem from the Irish phrase "phlean on ti" meaning "from the house of". |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Jack Campin Date: 08 Sep 09 - 08:22 PM OED says they don't know where "planxty" came from but they think it might be from Latin "plangere", to strike. It certainly isn't from Irish. I'd guess maybe from Latin "planctus", lament. ("Elegy" was generalized to include poems that nothing to do with commemorating the dead, so why not that one as well?) |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Smokey. Date: 08 Sep 09 - 07:19 PM I'm not sure - I've certainly never seen it used outside his work, but then I've never seen a lot of things. |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: bubblyrat Date: 08 Sep 09 - 06:37 PM "Planxty" being a word invented by the great man himself, no ?? |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Smokey. Date: 08 Sep 09 - 03:17 PM 'Colonel Irwin' and 'Colonel John Irwin' are two completely different tunes. 'Colonel John Irwin' is the one sometimes known as 'Planxty Irwin'. |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Stewart Date: 08 Sep 09 - 02:44 PM The tune is at thesession.org here. Click on the "comments" tab for a discussion of the tune and Turlough O'Carolan. Apparently there were words to Planxty Irwin (aka Colonel Irwin). An English translation of the first verse: We will take our way without delay To see a Noble, brave and gay, The gallant Colonel near the sea, Him I mean to treat of; With mirth and joy he fills his glasses, Delights to cheer both lads and lasses, This is John I will answer, The brave English Irelander. Cheers, S. in Seattle |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: GUEST Date: 08 Sep 09 - 12:51 PM " I am desperate to get hold of this song! " ============== Well, Feargal, how well-acquainted are you with music on computers and with using MIDI? Give us a little information about what you need. If you have music software, you can go to this site: http://www.contemplator.com/carolan/complt.html and search for 'Irwin'. Left click on the title to hear the tune, right click on the title to save it. Let's hope that people here are correct in saying that the song you want is based on 'Planxty Irwin.' The beauty of MIDI software is that it gives you power over the song. You can change the key, change the speed, alter notes, change elefs, print it, write new parts, etc etc. ========= But perhaps you use ABC. I bet you could find an ABC file of it at JC's Tunefinder, which is a wonderful site with traditional tunes in many formats. Come to think of it, go there first and see what you find. |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Mr Happy Date: 08 Sep 09 - 10:15 AM Not really negating my statement,as so many mispronounce it as 'Turlow' anyway! |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: bubblyrat Date: 08 Sep 09 - 04:16 AM Sorry to harp on,guys,but in any case it's Turl-luch , as in "loch" (near as dammit),not Turl-lo,so negating your statement,Mr Happy ! Anyway,I think I prefer "Colonel John Irwin " ! |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Smokey. Date: 07 Sep 09 - 11:20 PM The tune is also called 'Colonel John Irwin' in some publications. |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: TheSnail Date: 07 Sep 09 - 06:10 AM Emigrant |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: GUEST,Fearghal Date: 07 Sep 09 - 05:09 AM Thanks guys, fantastic info.........but (ahem) back to the original question: The tune by Eddie Furey, O'Carolan's (or Carolan's) Tribute....any idea which album, apart from "The sound of the Fureys" it appeared on? I am desperate to get hold of this song! Perhaps another artist has released the tune? |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Mr Happy Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:59 AM IMO the Carolan/ O'Carolan dispute has come about through the confusion of the running togother of his first & second names. As in Turlough pronounced Turl-O plus Carolan |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: bubblyrat Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:55 AM According to MUCH debate on another thread, it is,in fact, just "Carolan" without the "O'" if it's just the surname you use.So one refers to either ; A piece by Turlough O'Carolan or A Carolan piece. No,I don't get it either,but apparently some learned men who use the pen,so to speak,have deliberated,discussed,and decided thus. |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Valmai Goodyear Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:43 AM Karen Tweed is doing an all-day workshop on the music of O'Carolan for any instrument on Saturday 10th. July 2010 at the Lewes Saturday Folk Club in Sussex, UK. Karen performs at the club in the evening. Valmai |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: GUEST,fearghal Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:37 AM or even did any other artist do a sung version? The original by O'Carolan is beautiful though with words it becomes even BETTER! |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: GUEST,Fearghal Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:15 AM Hi Guys, this was my favourite song when I was growing up, it was on an album of my Da's called "the sound of the fureys" which I am having great difficulty finding......any idea where to find this album? cheers Fearghal |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Dave Hanson Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:14 AM By the way it's sung to the tune of Planxty Irwin. Dave H |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Commander Crabbe Date: 26 Jul 09 - 09:39 PM No problem CC |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Leadfingers Date: 26 Jul 09 - 08:02 PM Do we start a movement to set up a monument ? or do it the Sensible way and let his music be all the monument he needs ? |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: GUEST Date: 26 Jul 09 - 08:01 PM Thats great commander thanks so much. Danjoe |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Commander Crabbe Date: 26 Jul 09 - 07:40 PM Oops First verse second line; That's "played" not plaued!!!! CC |
Subject: RE: O Carolans tribute From: Commander Crabbe Date: 26 Jul 09 - 07:39 PM Danjoe Can't find it either so a quick bit of typing and hey presto. I think it is correct however I'm sure that someone will say if there are any minor corrections! O'Carolan Tribute I sat and I thought of a man O'Carolan Who plaued for kings and lords and ladies To hear him play, oh must have been wondrous To feel such music played at his command And the people spoke of your mighty godly gift Bestowed on you when you were a boy To play the harp with your magical fingers To compose such music that left no desire And blind man O'Carolan where is your monument Build it so high that the world it can see All the people now have their music Through a blind harpist that helped them to see O'Carolan's concerto, was your tribute You wrote it so people would remember your name And the big hills the small hills, was your beauty That conversation between two hills And Carolan oh blind man, you wrote such masters You showed the people, you found our hearts And you gave our music a new beginning And from the people it will never part And blind man O'Carolan where is your monument Build it so high that the world it can see All the people now have their music Through a blind harpist that helped them to see Then a mighty man who's name was O'Riada He wakened the people from out of their sleep And O'Carolan's music, it was a part of him A man I remembered a man I admired And he spoke of you with great admiration He played your music with grace and with style And we'll remember you Sean O'Riada We will remember you for a long while And blind man O'Carolan he was your monument He built it so high that the world it can see And through O'Riada we can be thankful He showed us a blind man, that's helped us to see CC |
Subject: O Carolans tribute From: GUEST,Danjoe Date: 26 Jul 09 - 05:32 PM I am looking for the words of this song recorded by Eddie Furey Thanks |
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