Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:56 AM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 05 - 03:04 AM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 09 Jan 05 - 03:17 PM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: PoppaGator Date: 07 Jan 05 - 08:17 PM Thanks for the clarification, Ted. Now I understand perfectly how Lotte's name found its way into that lyric: Satchmo! As noted above, Lotte Lenya definitely performed in a New York production of Threepenny Opera, at least if the Assocated Press obituary of her costar Jerry Orbach is to be believed. Sorry I misread the earlier post identifying who she had married... By the way, Kevin Spacey's performance of "Mack" as Bobby Darin in the new film "Beyond the Sea" is pretty spectacular. (The band does a great job as well.) I was fortunate enough to see a preview -- free of charge! -- two full weeks before the local opening. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: M.Ted Date: 07 Jan 05 - 12:39 AM Lotte Lenya was not named in the original lyrics--Louis Armstrong added them when he recorded his version of the song, and they've stuck ever since--Lenya was in the studio for the session, and, in one of the takes, they recorded the song as a duet--Pirate Jenny is in Three Penny Opera, The Alabama Song was in "The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny"-- and she was "Mrs Weill"--and always much more of an artistic collaborator than a wife--She played Fraulein Schneider, who was the central character in the original Broadway version of Cabaret(but was eliminated in the movie)-- |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: PoppaGator Date: 06 Jan 05 - 01:36 PM I didn't know Lotte was Mrs. Brecht; I did know that she was a noted actress and that she performed in The Threepenny Opera both in Berlin and in New York (maybe elsewhere, too, like maybe London). What I always found confusing was that her name is in the song; I figure she must have played herself, i.e., that Lotte Lenya was/is a character in the play originally played by the actress Lotte Lenya (but undoubtedly portrayed by others as well). I never saw or read The Threepenny Opera -- just know some of the songs. And, besides Mack the Knife, I'm not sure which Weill/Brecht songs are from this particular show. Pirate Jenny? Whiskey Bar/Alabama? |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 06 Jan 05 - 01:18 PM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST,Pinnocchio Date: 06 Jan 05 - 12:36 AM Well miss Lotte Lenya, was the wife of Kurt Weill, the composer, so it possible, perhaps even likely that she performed in a production of the three penny opera, maybe more than one. Probably in Germany, possibly stateside as well. Look out old Mack is back. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: PoppaGator Date: 05 Jan 05 - 05:28 PM What's the deal with Lotte Lenya's appeareance in these lyrics? She's a real person, an actress, whereas (I assume) Suki Tawdry, Lucy Brown, Louie Miller and MacHeath himself are ficitonal characters. The recently deceased Jerry Orbach's first job in the New York theater was a minor role in The Threepenny Opera. Before long, he was "promotyed" to the major role of Mack, and (according to his AP obit) he played opposite Lotte herself. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 05 Jan 05 - 04:37 PM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: M.Ted Date: 04 Jan 05 - 11:52 PM It really is a three chord song--with a relative minor thrown in(which counts as the major if you think of it as a C6 with the 6th on the bottom)--though I am a real big fan of Kurt Weill and have been for years, I never played the song, except if it was a request--I guess I figured it was over done--wished I'd done it more, because it is kind of fun to play--and now, it's new again-- |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 04 Jan 05 - 07:55 PM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: Cluin Date: 04 Jan 05 - 02:54 PM My buddy often throws a faked-down 3 chord version of this song into that late night 4th set which is usually made up on the spot of mostly obscure stuff we like. He sings it and I just back off and play fills and leads throughout. The first time we played it (we never rehearse), I noticed one other thing he does different in it. "Hey, did you just sing 'Minnie Driver' instead of 'Jenny Diver'?" "Yeah. It's a little fantasy of mine that she's gonna walk into a bar some night when I'm singing it and she'll notice me and want to have an illicit passionate weekend in Mexico with me as a result." Whatever gets you thru the set, man... |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: M.Ted Date: 04 Jan 05 - 02:44 PM I saw him on the Today Show, and thought he was great! I usually don't like bio movies about singers where the songs have been rerecorded by the actor, because they usually don't have the energy of the real music, but this looks like it will be a big exception-- One of the more interesting recordings of Mack the Knife is a duet between Lotte Lenya and Louis Armstrong, recorded at the same time he recorded his hit version of the song--he was the one who added her name to the lyrics-- |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: Geoff the Duck Date: 04 Jan 05 - 01:40 PM I was never quite sure how Mack the Knife fitted together with highwayman MacHeath from the Beggars Opera and had never got around to asking anyone. Anyway - this finally spurred me to put out a search and most of my queries were answered by This Site. I suppose that interest in the song has been sparked off by the Kevin Spacey film about Bobby Darrin. The lyrics above are certainly the ones sung - with asides and extras - in the film soundtrack. Mrs.Duck bought us the soundtrack CD for Christmas, and Kevin Spacey is not only a believable singer, but has an excellent singing voice. I look forward to seeing the film when opportunity arises. Quack!! Geoff the Duck. |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: M.Ted Date: 04 Jan 05 - 12:11 PM If you want some discussion--yes, the chords are fine--and are probably pretty close to Bobby Darin's Las Vegas-style arrangement-the key changes are typical of his arrangements--but they aren't necessary to play the song, and aren't what you'd here in the Louis Armstrong arrangement--the song, as played in the Threepennny Opera, is played on a barrel organ using the chords shown above-- You can use any number of fingerings for the chords--in closed position, you can actually just slide the fingerings that you used in the first key up the neck-- I'd do this: (Bb6) 6-X-5-7-6-X (Cm7)8-X-8-8-8-8 (F7/9) 8-X-7--8-8 (Dm7) 10-X-10-10-10-10 (Ddim) 9-X-8-9-X-X-X To change key, remember that the note on the low E string defines the chord name--so on the Seventh fret, it is a B6, on the Eighth Fret, it is a C6, and on the tenth, it is a D6-- The F7/9 is the same as an F9, every ninth chord includes the dominant seventh--that fingering is moveable up and down the neck, but the name for it comes from its position on the A string-- As I said above, if you don't know how to play these chords already, and you want to be able to play the song in the proximate future, you should just play the song in open C, because it takes quite a while to master the closed position stuff-- |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST Date: 04 Jan 05 - 02:48 AM |
Subject: RE: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: M.Ted Date: 03 Jan 05 - 02:34 PM If you don't know how to play any of those chords, my suggestion is to simply learn the song in the key of C, and play it without any key changes-- (Pickup) G7||:C C / Dm Dm / Dm Dm/ C C/ Am Am/ Dm Dm/G G/C G7:|| |
Subject: Chord Req: Mack the knife chord formations From: GUEST,Bertolt Darin Date: 03 Jan 05 - 12:29 PM Can anybody help me with the formations of any of the following chords? Thanks in advance. Also, any musical experts out there, if you have issues with any of the chord choices made by the person who transcribed this, I'd love to hear them. Thanks much. -Eb7/9+13 -Dbdim -Ddim -Ebdim -Edim -Fdim -F#dim -F7/9 -F#7/9 -G7/9 -G#7/9 -A7/9 Bb7/9 Eb6 Intro: Bb ----------Bb6---------------------Cm7 Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear --------F7/9------------------Bb6 And it shows them pearly white --------Dm7----Dbdim-------Cm7 Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe ----------F7/9-----------------Bb6 And he keeps it, ah, out of sight ********** ------------------------Bb6------------------Cm7 Ya know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe ---------F7/9-------------Bb6 Scarlet billows start to spread --------Dm7—----Dbdim----------Cm7 Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe -------------F7/9----------------------Bb6 So there's never, never a trace of red ********** modulate to B: F#7/9--------B6-----------------------------------C#m7 Now on the sidewalk, huh, huh, whoo sunny morning, un huh --------F#7/9------------B6 Lies a body just oozin' life, eek --------------------D#m7-Ddim-------C#m7 And someone's sneakin' 'round the corner --------------F#7/9--------------------B6 Could that someone be Mack the Knife? ********** modulate to C: G7/9-----C6----------------------------------Dm7 There's a tugboat, huh, huh, down by the river dontcha know -----------G7/9----------------------------------C6 Where a cement bag's just a'drooppin' on down -----------Em7—Ebdim-------------------Dm7 Oh, that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear ----------------G7/9-----------------------C6 Five'll get ya ten old Macky's back in town ********** modulate to C#: G#7/9-------------------------C#6--------------D#m7 Now d'ja hear 'bout Louie Miller? He disappeared, babe -------G#7/9-------------C#6 After drawin' out all his hard-earned cash ------------------Fm7---------Edim-------D#m7 And now MacHeath spends just like a sailor ----------G#7/9---------------------------C#6 Could it be our boy's done somethin' rash? ********** modulate to D: A7/9---------D6----------------------------Em7 Now Jenny Diver, ho, ho, yeah, Sukey Tawdry --------------A7/9-------------------D6 Ooh, Miss Lotte Lenya and old Lucy Brown ----------F#m7----Fdim--Em7 Oh, the line forms on the right, babe ------------A7/9---------------D6 Now that Macky's back in town ********** modulate to Eb: Bb7/9-------Eb6--------------------Fm7 I said Jenny Diver, whoa, Sukey Tawdry ----------------------Bb7/9-----------------Eb6 Look out to Miss Lotte Lenya and old Lucy Brown -----------Gm7-----Gbdim-Fm7 Yes, that line forms on the right, babe ------------Bb7/9 Now that Macky's ……………. ----------Eb6------Ab7/9—Eb6—Ab7/9—Eb6—Ab7/9 back in town Eb6----------(BIG ending chord): Eb7/9+13 Look out, old Macky's back!! |
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