West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning

Subject: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 05:47 PM

Hello cats-I have a nice campground near me on the shores of a mountain
lake and would like you all to join me there in early june to jam and
meet each other...tentatively planning for the weekend of June 7-8. The weekend after memorial day (strawberry music festival) and before Father's Day (bluegrass festival in Nevada county) Any one interested? The campground is located in Concow, at Concow Lake. This is in Butte County, near the Feather River Canyon.Off of Hiway 70, between Orovile and Quincy. This has been the site of the Butte Folk Music Society music jam and camp out and the Society for Creative Anachronism Arts and Sciences events. Let me know if you want to plan to do this and if the date works o.k. Laurel,

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West Coast Mudcat Gathering June 6-7-8 Lake Concow campground. Highway 70 in the Yankee Hill area to Concow road, Follow Concow Road 5 miles to entrance of campground. GPS. (Lat/Long) 39.46.26 N, 121.30.25 W Bring food, drink, ice, firewood, instruments, voices, song books, costumes, pic-a-nic baskets (for bears) tents, RV's, trailers, tipis, friends, neighbors, relatives, songs and tunes to share. This will be the monthly gathering of the Butte Folk Music Society Acoustic Jam with invites to friends from Mud Cat Cafe, Pal Talk live music jams, Scooter's Open Mike events, Old time fiddlers, Strawberry Music Fest. Camp Dung Beetle Residents, Eternal Flaming Pyramid Family Members, Radio People, Contra Dancers. $7.00 / car / night camp fee, $3.00 / car / day.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: mg
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 06:02 PM

is that in Montana?

mg

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 06:11 PM

looks like it is California, mary, according to google

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 07:15 PM

Where in the world is the Mudcat gathering?

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 07:41 PM

Try Northern California, off of I70, a major trucking route. Here's a Mapquest page that shows Quincy and Oroville.

A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Dave Swan
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 08:02 PM

Sounds like fun to me, and the date looks good.
D.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: mousethief
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 08:31 PM

I'll keep the date open for the time being. I'd love to come but other things might come up.

Alex

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 09:01 PM

I should be able to make it, Mike.
-Joe Offer (Colfax, California)-

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Melani
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 10:36 PM

Wish I could, it's actually within easy driving range for me, but I'll be vending at a Renaissance Faire in South Lake Tahoe. If you get bored with the 21st century, drop by and see us.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Mudlark
Date: 12 Jan 03 - 11:51 PM

I'd love to try and make it...just have to find dog and garden babysitters....

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Mudjack
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 12:37 AM

To soon to say positivily yes, but sounds like a fine place for a Mudcat music week end. Will stay in tune for further developments.
Mudjack

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 04:32 AM

yippee! I will hope for this to come together-
any suggestions would be appreciated...I will
reserve the campgrounds-they are quite rustic
and reasonably priced. Details to follow. PM
me with any questions or comments...I can also
invite old time fiddlers and folk society members.
bring friends! Pot luck! There is lots of elbow
room there, with pine trees and it is in the
place which was the historic home of the Concow
tribe, a sub-tribe of the Maidu Nation. About 5
hours from Santa Cruz, 10 hours from Portland.
Just down the canyon from Reno. Laurel

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:04 AM

Looks good to me too; it's hard to say this far out but my weekends are generally free. I'd love to come.

If someone has camping gear to share, I'm close enough (Sacramento) to make it easy to haul up water or food.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:14 AM

I would really love to make the scene, Openmike. What about the Friday before? Available?

There was a whole checklist of points to ponder which WYSIWYG made up in discussing the first Camp Runamuck gathering.

Sooz' original list is here. A modified version for Camp Runamuck is here.

LEt us know about costs, eh? Ta so!


A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 11:41 AM

Be sure to check with the agency that runs the campground, for extra parking for group sites, etc. You could have a crowd! Some of those agencies are pretty picky about parking (as one who used to have to get folks to not park on the grass in Corps of Engineers campgrounds).

It sounds like fun, and a great setting. I wish I were closer so I could join in with the kids!

SRS

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 12:02 PM

If Friday eve isn't available at the campground, I've got couch/floor space for a few. However, the cat loves houseguests (even those allergic to her) and someone IS going to wake up with a napping cat on their stomach.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 13 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM

A crowd?! Oh, goodie! I will keep it in the plans, then, and circle the date--in red! or is the mudcat color blue? Friday is a go, too. And I have hosted jams there before where dogs came and they enjoyed it, too.

My house is a mile away and there are opportunities there to take a sauna, swim, fish or canoe in the pond, more hiking, hot showers, bath, see goats, emu, split and stack wood, well, maybe that would be too much! I am a vegetarian, so would appreciate food items that I would be able to enjoy, too, but no policing on this !

I believe the wild azaleas will be blooming at that time, and perhaps the dogwoods too. Just up the road "a piece" is national forest if any
one wants to explore the back country..and just across the road is the volunteer fire station and "my" engine, which i could give you a tour of...(hopefully i will not be called to take it anywhere for an emergency call)

any suggestions would be great? event name? We have held an event in this area called the wild mountain faire. It happened every june for 20 years...music, crafts, food. In the public park down the road from the campground...I live at the base of wild mountain and the fair was put on by many folks, including my land partners. It has not been held for a few years now, because it grew too large to handle...thousands of people, overflowing parking and other space,,,etc.

The community has recently moved an original old one room school house to a place near the current school and we are re-furbishing it. I do not know if it was already furbished or not. Hopefully it can be used as a venue and performance location some day..you will pass it on the way.

send any comments, suggestions, or whatever to me in a p.m. or to my e-mail address which is [e-mail] yipee! looking forward to it....

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 04:35 AM

specifs: camp fee is $7 per car per night...
so that wouold be $14 for both fri and sat nite...
plus $3 day use fee if still at the campground
after 11 a.m. sunday....
dry camping...no electricity.
there is running water, but not plumbed to hook-ups....
there is a $4 fee if you want to use their dumping facilities...
for trailer holding tanks...
there are no flush toilets....
i wil hope to refresh this thread at the beginning of each month
so we can all keep in touch between now and then....
Laurel

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 10:33 AM

Sounds teddibly rugged, m'deah. Are you quite certain they couldn''t install a flush toilet or two for the sake of the Mudcat? At least an array of one-seaters?

A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 12:31 PM

Rugged? That just means whoever brings an RV is going to be the most popular guy/gal there!

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 02:47 PM

r.v.'s, motor homes, tipis, yurts, wickiups--all are welcome!
hikers, bikers, ride a horse, 20 mule team wagon...
can't say there is a run way near by, but there
is a helicopter landing zone--come however you can. The grey
hound stops on the a few miles away too. and the train goes
thru Chico, an hour away...i know the river boats used to get
up the sacramento river as far norts as Gerber - between Chico
and Red Bluff once upon a time...We could put together a
ride board if folks want to arrange a car pool plan...
we have got 5 months to work out the details! shall we
call it a hootenanny? a howl? holler? catty wompus?

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 03:22 PM

Um... I just noticed. That's the same weekend as the CBA Music Camp in Grass Valley!

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 03:55 PM

but isn't the big cba deal always on father's day?
that is the next weekend...

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 04:24 PM

The Bluegrass festival is Father's Day Weekend. The Music Camp is the weekend before.



I take it back -- the Camp is running this year June 8-11, so only the Sunday overlaps. Never mind :D

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 05:17 PM

Well, its a Mudcattywhompus, in my book!! Or a Conmudcatenation, perhaps. OR even a Mudcatenary, a Mudcataleptic Fit, a Mudcat Tharsis, or a Mudcatalysis Event!

A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 06:32 PM

Litterbox Jam?
ConCat?
Camp Spawn?
Catfish Holler?

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 06:37 PM

Catspawn '03?

A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 08:02 PM

I like that one! Camp Catspawn '03. Somebody make t-shirts!

Although I'm also fond of Litterbox Jam. Wrong kind of cat, I know, but the pun is just too hard to pass up :)

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Jan 03 - 09:34 PM

I would love to come and finally meet some of you wonderful people. I'll try to keep that weekend open.

Sounds like a lovely spot, open mike!

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 03:06 AM

Glad you posted this so far ahead, OM. Gotta firm up some other travel plans soon.

Looks like I can make it, and I might even drive from the Portland area, in which case I could offer someone a ride at least one way. (I may stay in CA a week or so before going back to PDX.)

If I fly, though, I won't have a guitar with me. Is that a problem?

How far is this place from Santa Rosa and how far from Alameda?

Genie

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 12:24 PM

It's a fair piece from Santa Rosa (about 3 1/2 hours). From Alameda -- *which* Alameda? The one in the Bay Area? That's about 3 hours drive.

I'm sure we can scrounge up a guitar for you. At the rate I aquire instruments, I'll probably have one I can't play by then :)

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 09:11 PM

If I fly, I may be able to bring my 3/4 size Ibanez. It can fit in the overhead compartment in a plane. I'm hesitant to check a guitar now, since airlines won't insure them (without substantial extra cost) and now they won't let you lock the case, either.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of driving to the Gathering site (east of I-5, near Red Bluff?), then driving to the Bay Area afterwards and flying to and from San Diego from there. That way I could bring a sleeping bag and other stuff I'd need for "roughing it."

Yes, Nicole, I mean the Alameda in the Bay Area. Santa Rosa LOOKs a good deal closer. It isn't? ('Course, it depends on whether you wanna take the mountain roads or the flatter roads.)

Genie

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 02:28 AM

nearer to Chico-the main towns in Butte County are Chico, Paradise,
Oroville, and Gridley. the campground is east of chico..check the link with the map...and zoom out a bit and to the west and you will see the
relationship to hiway 99 and I-5 i will send maps closer to the time..
surprised i am planning so far ahead of timw-i usually do things last
minute--Be Here Now! I'm sure we can find guitars, etc. or ask folks with room to bring "extras"...

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 02:49 AM

Maybe nearer to Chico, mike, but that's meaningless to me, since I've never been there. Having made the trip from Portland to Santa Rosa, Oakland, Sacramento, Alameda, El Cerrito, and even Clear Lake a number of times, towns east of I-5 are only road signs along I-5 to me, but twons like Mt. Shasta, Redding, Red Bluff, Weed, Concord, etc. mean something.

I guess the main question I have is: how far (how long) is the gathering site from, say, Redding? Or Red Bluff?

That will give me a much better idea of how long it will take from Portland.

Thanks,

Genie

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 03:56 AM

CHECK IN THIS THREAD, AND YOU WILL FIND A LINK TO A MAP POSTED.
THE LOCATION IS ABOUT AN HOUR, AS I SAID, FROM CHICO. REDDINIG IS ABOUT 1 1/2 HOURS FROM CHICO...AND AS I ALSO SAID I RECENTLY TRAVELLED TO PORTLAND AND IT TOOK 12 HOURS, BUT THAT WAS IN BAD WEATHER.
YOU MIGHT MAKE IT IN 10-11. Sorry for all caps--unintentional...
the map is within the post from Amos on jan 12...you can zoom out to see how it fits in with other surrounding landmarks...

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 04:06 AM

here is a link to the mapquest map
lake concow campground

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 05:25 PM

Didn't mean to be obtuse, mike. It's just that the maps don't tell which roads are the 2-lanes that wind over the mountains and go through all the small towns. Hard to tell how long it will take to go 50 miles on an unfamiliar road without knowing that sort of thing.

Would you get off I-5 at Red Bluff and take 99 to Chico? Map Quest show another road that seems shorter between I-5 and Chico, halfway between Corning and Willows, near Orland, but it doesn't give the name of that road. It looks like it would be faster to stay on I-5 and cut over to 99 at about Orland. Unless 99 is a four-lane and not too winding.

FWIW, I'm glad you picked the week end of the 8th. The previous weekend is too close to the NW Folklife Festival in Seattle, and the following week would be very close to the San Francisco Folk Festival. But, then, that's just my preference.

Genie

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 05:34 PM

99 is a major highway, 4 lane in most places and 6 lane in the others. There might be a few 2 lane spots. Take the 99; that's a 2 lane street going from Orland to Chico that you're looking at.

When you are looking at Mapquest, red is a major freeway/interstate and yellow is a major highway. Gray is the little roads.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Genie
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 03:26 PM

Thanks, Nicole. Very helpful info.

Genie

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 03:31 PM

True to my prediction, I have manged to aquire yet another unloved and unwanted instrument (a Yamaha SJ-180 for $39 at a thrift store!), so I can bring a guitar to the gathering for anyone who wants to travel without.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Jan 03 - 06:21 AM

from I-5 , you would want to go until you are south of red bluff and
take the cut-off which is the southern most exit at CORNING. I think
it is called south street or avenue. There is
a big truck stop there and it crosses the Sacramento River at Woodson
bridge, where there is a nice state park. When it gets closer to the time i will post more specific driving instructions from various directions N, S, E, W. Hiwy 99 is a 2 lane for a few miles but then
widens out to 4 as it approaches Chico. There are 9 exits for Chico.
And a good food co-op at 8th and Main, if you want to pick up munchies..
a few minutes south of Chico there is a cut off road to take -- Durham/
Pentz road. There is a community college Butte college on this road. As I said, more directions later...glad to hear the weekend works well for folks...any other questions--feel free to ask....

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 11:18 AM

Refresh & reminder.

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: DADGBE
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 11:52 AM

By damn! It sure sounds like fun. I was all set to say yup then looked at the calendar an saw that I'm slated to be teaching old-time guitar at the CBA teaching camp. Hey, Open Mike, want to do it again sometime?

Best regards,
Ray

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:03 PM

Ray, I thought the camp didn't start until Sunday? Or do ya'll teacher-types have to show up early?

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:04 PM

one thing at a time! maybe again in the fall, but
with fire season coming up i never know what will
be happening when it is hot, dry, and windy late
in the season....spring is a better choice...
some folks have hinted they might arrive on Fri.
the 6th--that would be great...
a lot of other things will happen between then
and now, so we will see!
I tried to pick a weekend that was after Strawberry,
but before the Grass Valley blue grass evnet, but
when "festival season" starts, most weekends are
taken. Had to squeeze it between Kate Wolf and
Wild Iris, too. And San Fransico Free Folk music...
and.....

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:46 PM

Laurel:

I'm a little unclear on location precisely -- is it on Concow Road right outside of Deadwood off S-70? That would mean (for me) running north from SAC on I-5 to the S-70 fork. Or have I got the location wrong? What's the nearest town that would show up on Mapquest?


A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: open mike
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 01:17 PM

The nearest town to the south is Oroville.
the closest town as the crow flies is Paradise..
if coming from Sacto, yes go north on 99/I-5 to
the place where 99/70 split and keep to the right
on hiway 70. Then after Oroville, the hiway curves
to the right and heads up towards the feather river
canyon on the way to Quincy. After the 4 lane bridge
over the west branch of the north fork of the feather
river, which is a finger of Lake Oroville, the road
climbs up past a scenic overlook spot. When the hiway
turns back into 2 lane, there will be a left hand turn
lane, right by the Dome Store, a.k.a. Canyon Lakes Mkt.
This is Concow Road, and the campground is about 5-6
miles north of the Dome. All paved, 80 curves. Well,
that is 80 to my driveway, maybe only 75 to the camp-
ground.It is either called Lake Concow or Holland Camp-
ground, and it is on the left across the road from the
Fire Station #38, the nearest cross "street" is Ishi
Trail. This is named after the "last wild Indian" Ishi, a
man from the Yana Tribe who was taken to U.C. Berkeley
by the Kroebers in 1911. The Concow, Yahi and Yana are
all sub-tribes of the Maidu Nation, I believe.
See you in a couple of months!

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: Amos
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 01:20 PM

I've read Ishi's story -- he was a wonderful character.

Thanks for the clarification~!


A

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: GUEST,Michael P.
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:26 PM

Sounds like a great way to wind-down from strawberry the previous weekend!

Subject: RE: West Coast Mudcat Gathering Planning
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:47 PM

Anyone have any objections to non-MudCat guests? (Musicians, that is.)