BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: bobad
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 02:07 PM

For all those who were wringing their hands over the US's "incursion" into Pakistan:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9109457/Stratfor-Osama-bin-Laden-was-in-routine-contact-with-Pakistans-spy-agency.html

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 25 May 12 - 04:58 AM

A 33 year sentence, (tried without judge or jury) for the doctor who was used to identify who was in the compound.
No-one yet convicted for concealing Bin Laden.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: bobad
Date: 25 May 12 - 07:36 AM

The Pakistanis have a good gig going - they get billions of dollars from the US to fight the terrorists who they are covertly aiding thus ensuring the cash keeps flowing - a perpetual cash cow.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 25 May 12 - 11:30 AM

I think bobad that little wheeze of thiers (The Pakistani's that is) is coming to an end. Foreign Aid that their military relied on will dry up.

Everybody looks to this withdrawal from combat operations within Afghanistan by ISAF and erroneously compare that with the Soviet abandonment of Afghanistan in 1991.

What the Taleban realise is that after December 2014 the fighting on the ground in Afghanistan becomes an "All Afghan Affair". The ANSF have now been fighting and gaining experience since 2008. The man in charge after 2014 will more than likely be Abdul Rashid Dostum, after Ahmad Shah Massoud the most competent and capable military commander in Afghanistan. It took 71 days to drive the Taleban from power in 2001 and Dostum did that with less than 25,000 men, aided by less than 1,000 US Specialist Advisers and the combat aircraft from two USN Strike Carriers. From January 2015 Dostum will have over 350,000 men of the ANSF + 20,000 US troops + all the air power he could ask for.

My guess is that Mullah Omar's Taleban, the Haqqani Group and those following Gulbuddin Hekmatyar will forget about Afghanistan and they will focus on grabbing land from Pakistan's North West Frontier Province, the Federal Administered Tribal Areas and parts of Baluchistan to create their Pashtunistan. The Pak military starved of the aid it needs will be a much easier opponent than Dostum.

The Pakistani Government will do some sort of deal with their Taleban and if they then try anything on with regard to harbouring international terrorists or meddling in Afghanistan's affairs then a wall could be built round their Pashtunistan and everyone could use it as the biggest weapons testing, live-firing range in the world.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 12 - 03:32 PM

I heard that US Naval Intelligence just released a press statement. In a nutshell, they said... he was living undetected in the compound in a house for five years with his fives wives and they now believe he was the one who called the Navy Seals.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Wesley S
Date: 25 May 12 - 04:03 PM

Polygamy is it's own punishment.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Stringsinger
Date: 26 May 12 - 01:12 PM

What Obama did was anti-American in that he assassinated a criminal perpetrator without putting him on trial first. "Habeas Corpus" is in the U.S. DNA and in the Constitution.
What Obama did was un-Constitutional and should be condemned by rational Americans.

I'm certain that most of the world would have found bin Laden guilty of murder had there been a trial.

Also, not every member of the Taleban supports Al Quaeda.

One thing is certain, the Afghan Security Force is ultimately being trained to kill American soldiers.

The US is naively unaware of the quagmire that their incursion into Afghanistan has caused. The evidence is shown by the role of the mujahadeen in fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Why did the US support the bin Laden family (as well as Usama?) Was it "oil"?

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: gnu
Date: 26 May 12 - 02:01 PM

"Also, not every member of the Taleban supports Al Quaeda."

No matter. Our troops shoot all Taleban. It's their mission.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 May 12 - 02:16 PM

"I think bobad that little wheeze of thiers "
Don't you mean "theirs"?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 May 12 - 05:18 AM

At least we know where you stand on typos Jim.

Stringsinger, was it "anti-American" to try and shoot down the Japanese at Pearl harbour without trial?

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: bobad
Date: 11 Feb 13 - 01:57 PM

From the horse's mouth - how it all went down by the seal who inserted three slugs into OBL's skull expediting his passage to paradise: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Feb 13 - 05:03 PM

Keith, it is completely inappropriate and stupid to respond to a criminal act by a small, clandestine group of terrorists as if it were an open, official act of war by the armed forces of another sovereign nation. And that is why drawing parallels with Pearl Harbour is completely irrelevent.

But...if you simply want to use such an incident as a provocation in order to panic your own public into supporting a series of foreign wars (and occupations) on other sovereign nations, and a reduction in their own civil liberties at home, and a boost to military spending...then Bob's your uncle! It works like a charm. And that's exactly what was done.

I doubt that Bin Laden had anything to do with planning 911. He has said himself (in tapes he submitted to the Middle East media) that he had nothing to do with 911. If he had planned it, I think he'd have been boasting to the skies about it.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 13 - 05:33 PM

http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313-2

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: bobad
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 06:46 PM

That Esquire Story About The SEAL Who Killed Osama Bin Laden Is "Complete B.S." According to Another SEAL

Gawker

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Mar 13 - 09:08 PM

Breaking News. This Just In. Osama Bin Laden Still Dead.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Ron Davies
Date: 27 Mar 13 - 11:15 AM

"official act of war".    It's slightly amazing that, aside from types of German planes in WW II, the poster's knowledge of history is so circumscribed.   If Pearl Harbor was an "official" act of war, please tell us when the declaration of war on the US by Japan was made. And if it was declared, exactly why was the US not informed?   A secret declaration of war is an interesting hybrid.

Thanks so much.

Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
From: Ron Davies
Date: 27 Mar 13 - 11:24 AM

A secret official declaration of war is even more intriguing.