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Subject: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Julie B Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:30 AM Legendary entertainer Bob Hope dies at 100. Messages from multiple threads combined. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Julie B Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:32 AM For obituary see: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/28/obit.hope/index.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Amos Date: 28 Jul 03 - 09:42 AM Sigh. A moment of silence for a man who brought so much laughter from so many. This has been a year of major change, hasn't it? Thanks, Bob, for being Bob Hope. I don't think anyone else could have pulled it off! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Dave Bryant Date: 28 Jul 03 - 10:24 AM Perhaps FolkMob should do something to remember him at their Tudor barn session on Wednesday - after all, he was born in Eltham and the local theatre is named after him. How about it, Dipsodeb, Woodsie, Dave K, et al. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: songs2play Date: 28 Jul 03 - 10:27 AM "He leans to the left, so shoot to the right..................." The funniest scene from any movie. God Bless. |
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Subject: Obit: Bob Hope From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:05 AM Another great man gone, 100 and out, a good score. He's off on his final "Road". Giok |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope From: Amos Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:06 AM Need to combine this with the earlier thread. A Messages from multiple threads combined. If you want to see which thread was which, watch the message titles. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:08 AM Yep sorry just noticed that myself, C'mon good fairy, do your stuff. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:25 AM about time. No thanks for the memories (there is a parody that remains to be written, I may have a crack at it). He was not funny, not nice, and is not missed by me. The world could easily have done without his contribution, and maybe have been better off, especially as to Vietnam, and a host of right wing Republican causes. More stink in the ground though a little less on it. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope From: Fiolar Date: 28 Jul 03 - 11:34 AM Bob - say hello to Bing, Eddie Foy and the Seven Little Foys and of course to Dorothy. He was one of my favourite comedians and the world is a sadder place with his passing (in spite of what has been posted on the other thread). "Thanks for the Memory." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Murray MacLeod Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:09 PM Whatever his merits or demerits as a human being, he certainly WAS funny. RIP Murray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:25 PM Whatever his politics might have been, I don't really see Bob Hope as being any kind of political force. He was, however, one of the half-dozen master comedians of the twentieth century. I grew up laughing at this guy, and sitting here this morning listening to some of his routines being played on an NPR special about him, I'm still cracking up! One funny guy!! Thanks for the memories, Bob. And rest easy. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope From: Tam the Bam (Nutter) Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:39 PM So sad to hear about the death of Bob Hope, all I can say is 'thanks for the memories' Tom |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Jul 03 - 01:59 PM The "Road" pictures really were funny. My 14-yr-old has watched them time and time again, and he loves them. I think Hope lost something somewhere in his second half-century, and he became cynical. Comedy became a business for him, an task of reading cue cards to make money. I saw him live in the 1970's. We paid $25 a head to watch him tape a "Bob Hope on Campus" show at UCLA. All his jokes were on huge cue cards we could read. If a skit didn't go right, he'd get angry and make the cast do it all over again. I can understand his need to do things right for the television show, but he didn't seem to have any respect for us as a paying audience - nor did he seem to have any respect for the people who were working with him. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,lu Date: 28 Jul 03 - 02:08 PM Over the past twenty years and more I thought he sounded very dated and chauvinistic. His jokes sounded hurtful and snide. I think it would be good if he takes a rest from comedy wherever he is. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST Date: 28 Jul 03 - 02:17 PM And his films are downright painful to watch today, because of the overt racism, etc. I'm sure conservative, status quo types still find his humor funny, because they feel so insecure with the cultural revolution in the US of the past 30 years. Hell, Bill Clinton thinks Bob Dole is one of the funniest men in politics. Of course, some of us more progressive types don't see the two of them as opposites, but as Republicrat birds of a feather. Considering how far to the reactionary right Reaganism moved the nation's political center, I suppose it is no surprise to see so many Mudcat folk (essentially a pretty conservative group in social, political, and cultural terms, just as most folkies are nowadays) nostalgically praising Bob Hope. Personally, I'm about as saddened by his passing as I was saddened to hear that Lester Maddox died. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 03 - 02:23 PM My best memories of Bob Hope were listening to him on the radio back in the Forties and the movies he was in. I think that his going out to entertain troops during World War II and subsequent wars was an admirable thing to do. But--I think he fell into the same trap that a lot of people fall into these days: you can support the troops without having to support the war. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Jul 03 - 02:32 PM Well how long is it since Bob Hope made a film? Don't think it was quite yesterday, in those days he was doing things that lots of other people were at that time, the only reason you hear what he said, and not what they said, is because he was funny, so his stuff lives on. I get pissed off with people applying todays values to yesterdays happenings, sure some of the things we did were crass, but now we know better; right? Don't speak ill of the dead, especially of someone who made so many people happy in his time, and what the hell have his politics got to do with his talents? Giok |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Ron Olesko Date: 28 Jul 03 - 02:35 PM Guest, you give progessives a bad name. I always thought that it was conservatives who pounced on opportunites to twist the message but I guess you prove that wrong. Of course his films are dated, occasionally racist and chauvenistic. Hurtful? Check the time they were made, they are no different than others of the era. Are you saying they are more hurtful and snide than the comment you chose to make, hidden behind your electronic hood? I guess at the very least, Bob Hope was not a coward and stood up for his own words. Bob Hope was very funny. There are still jokes that make me laugh and while he was not a revolutionary in film, as say Chaplin, he did open up a genre of comedy films. He was an inspiration to many. Of course we have come a long way since then. Rest in peace Bob, you led a long and decent life. You made many of laugh. That transcends all politics and is universal. Ron |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Bill D Date: 28 Jul 03 - 03:07 PM I grew up with Bob Hope as an eternal constant almost 'defining' comedy and our times....in the last 10-15 years I have come to realize I didn't like his politics and attitudes about lots of things...but he was still **Bob** and a real icon. He had his day, and it is past...let's remember the good parts and strive to rise above the bad. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,A Grunt Date: 28 Jul 03 - 03:40 PM Thanks Bob, you made 2hr. in Hell liveable. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST Date: 28 Jul 03 - 03:44 PM Good advice Bill D. But I would maintain that it is possible to transcend the man's politics (or ignore them completely) and still think they guy wasn't funny. There were many other comedians of the eras that Bob Hope spanned I found much funnier, including Mort Sahl, Sid Caesar, Jonathan Winters, Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Bill Cosby, Woodie Allen, Lenny Bruce, the Marx Bros, Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, and so many others. People forget that Bob Hope pushed a lot of products for advertisers over the years. His Christmas shows were on the air for nearly 20 years, he hosted the Oscars for about 15 years, had The Bob Hope Special for decades. It is easy to be nostalgic about someone who hasn't been in our living rooms since our childhood, when he was a regular fixture, and who died at the ripe old age of 100. Yet, despite his popularity, and appearing in over 50 movies, he wasn't often recognized with awards, etc. by his contemporaries, who didn't find him very worthy of special recognition for his acting or his comedy. The only thing he was generally recognized for was his service to the troops, hence his Emmy award during the height of the Vietnam War (when his shows became very controversial, because they were underwritten by Uncle Sam, which made him a filthy rich man), as an in-yer-face gesture to the anti-war movement from the Hollywood right. Once peace time hit in the 70s, it was Bob Hope and Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, profound cynicism, stale, recycled, regurgitated "one liner" crap. He was also a notorious womanizer One other thing--just because the racism, chauvism, is of another era, it doesn't mean his humor and the stereotypes in his films didn't hurt the people it was directed towards any less, who lived through the era right along with him. So that "it was a different era" argument, to me, is disingenuous. There were people in that era too, opposing racism, chauvinism, etc. as best they knew how. Bob Hope wasn't among them. To suggest that his television specials from Vietnam, which many of us grew up on, were somehow enlightened comedy, is revisionist history. Ditto with his TV shows. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Ron Olesko Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:03 PM "One other thing--just because the racism, chauvism, is of another era, it doesn't mean his humor and the stereotypes in his films didn't hurt the people it was directed towards any less, who lived through the era right along with him. So that "it was a different era" argument, to me, is disingenuous. There were people in that era too, opposing racism, chauvinism, etc. as best they knew how. Bob Hope wasn't among them. To suggest that his television specials from Vietnam, which many of us grew up on, were somehow enlightened comedy, is revisionist history." Sorry guest, it is far from revisionist history. I do remember the specials, and yes there was a lot of flag waving. There was also humor that appealed to the audience it was intended to serve. I may not have agreed with his beliefs, but I do respect his love of country and the people who served it. While some people choose to remember his right-wing views during Vietnam, many people forget his efforts fighting facism during WWII. He helped fight the evil and let the country know that it was okay to laugh during difficult and scary times. His jokes also poked fun at both the left and the right. I guess it is "revisionist" to remember only those jokes he told against the side we supported. You are also wrong to say that the arguement of "it was a different era" is disingenuous. You have to look at situations in the context of the time. There was a time in this country where women and segments of the population did not have their basic rights. Many of our forefathers were slave owners. None of this is right, but when something is socially accepted you can't crucify those who simply lived in their era. He may not have been "englightened" to fight against these issues, but that does not mean he intentionaly tried to hurt or perpetuate. Enlightenment does not happen overnight, and to curse those who did not live to understand the need for change is pure revisionism. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Ed. Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:10 PM Ding dong, the fascist's dead |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:16 PM "None of this is right, but when something is socially accepted you can't crucify those who simply lived in their era." I beg to differ. First, no one here is attempting to crucify Bob Hope. But you seem to think that he is above criticism (sort of like your conservative Democrats you love so dearly, Ron) and beyond reproach for what he did with his life. Bob Hope's so-called comedy and so-called great films hurt a lot of people. His comedy, films, tv shows, and the Bob Hope empire did all it could to perpetuate that era where white people loved to laugh at the darkies, the injuns, etc. I grew up with a lot of Native Americans, and not one of the thought Bob Hope's "The Paleface" movie was funny, or great moviemaking. There are those like you Ron, who de facto end up defending racism and chauvinism, by continuing to defend the racists and the chauvinists, because you personally liked them. That is fine, if you wish to do that, I have no objection. But it doesn't mean that I or anyone else has to agree with you, or participate in your delusions and deceptions about the racism and chauvinism, or the racists and chauvinists, just because they can be conveniently excused for their roles in perpetuating that sort of hatred by saying "it was more acceptable among white folks back then". |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: kinderfolk Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:42 PM More precisely, I found Hope's humour passe, out-of-date for these more modern times. What he was in the past was of those times. I apologise for the unset cookie earlier. kinderfolk/lu |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Ron Olesko Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:44 PM There you go again guest... putting words in peoples mouths. Show me where I defended racism and chauvinism or those that supported it. To say that "conservative democrats" are people that I "love dearly" is simply a lie. Stop putting words in people's mouths. If you can't defend your case, move on. Don't start maligning people as a way to win your arguement. Drop your electronic hood and stop being a coward. If you are going to malign someone, have the guts to stand up for yourself. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: artbrooks Date: 28 Jul 03 - 04:46 PM Unlike Anon.Guest, Bob Hope never made any attempt to conceal who he was and what he thought. I recall a message coming down to my unit in Da Nang, asking for each unit to pick a soldier to ge off of "special duty," to an unspecified location for a couple of days. No specific skills were asked for, just somebody that was reasonably clean cut. I picked our battery clerk, since we had a backup for him and we could continue our regular mission without him. He came back and, when asked where he had gone, said "to Saigon, to see Bob Hope." The date, time and location of the show were secret, because the powers-that-be were certain that it would be attacked otherwise. A great time was had by all. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 03 - 05:10 PM ". . . he wasn't often recognized with awards, etc. by his contemporaries, who didn't find him very worthy of special recognition for his acting or his comedy. . . ." GUEST, do you just pull this stuff out of thin air? He was a generous man as well. Over the years he donated more than a billion dollars to hospitals, charities and civic organizations.And that the members of your lengthy list of funny folks all, I'm more than certain, would acknowledge that Bob Hope pretty much set the pattern for the stand-up comic. You and a couple of the other people who have posted on this thread once again raise that Great Cosmic Question that has puzzled humankind since time began:-- Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Amos Date: 28 Jul 03 - 05:54 PM A few reminders of what he was really known for: Eisenhower admitted that the budget can't be balanced and McCarthy says the communists are taking over. You don't know what to worry about these days ... whether the country will be overthrown or overdrawn. Golf is a game that needlessly prolongs the lives of some of our most useless citizens. I do benefits for all religions -- I'd hate to blow the hereafter on a technicality. I don't bother to look for parking space anymore. As soon as I get near Hollywood Boulevard ... I sell. I grew up with six brothers. That's how I learned to dance -waiting for the bathroom. I have a wonderful make-up crew. They're the same people restoring the Statue of Liberty. I went to play golf and tried to shoot my age, but I shot my weight instead. A |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Padre Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:09 PM Guest, Will Rogers would be rethinking his best known quote after reading your posting. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,pdq Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:11 PM Don Firth and Ron Olesko: Are you begining to realize that the biggest impedement to your side is your side? Wherever he went, Bob Hope is golfing, and he can't here what punks say now anyway. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,pdq Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:19 PM Have to take back the here and replace it with "hear", and maybe add "don't give a flying turd" what punks have to say. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:32 PM Joe, I also saw him live on campus and came away with the opposite opinion. I never liked his TV shows or movies, but in a live performance, I thought his timing and comedic wit were impeccable. I remember that performance after all these years. I laughed so hard my sides ached. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:35 PM GUEST,pdq, "impediment" to "our side?" What the hell are you talking about? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:41 PM Maybe he'd have done better to retire at 50. Which in effect he did, since the early films were what counted, not the stand up comic stuff. Over here he's the guy who was in the Road movies with Bing, the one who never got the girl. Gentle fun. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: NH Dave Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:51 PM I will always respect Bob Hope for the entertainment he brought to the troops both during hot wars and the intervening cold wars that bridged the gaps between the shooting ones. He unselfishly gave up his holidays at how with his family so we could see a bit of home and, "what we are fighting for." Over the years Bob Hope had to have ammased more overseas time than I did in my 26 years in the military, and it was all during what was Christmas time for those in the states, and all one night stands. I've done my share of bag-drags, one and two day trips to locations far from home and it isn't fun at the best of times, and even less fun over holidays. Bob and his crew made the holicays just that little bit better for those of us who could gert away to see him. He may have been a hard nosed perfectionist, but he wasn't near as bad as our senior NCOS, and we understood the need he felt to give the best he and his gang had for the troops. Dave |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,pdq Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:52 PM Don: My spelling is usually better, but the point is that anyone considered conservative will be savaged by liberals. It makes no difference how fine a life that person has lead. It was easier for you liberals to excuse the rant against Strom Thurmond, but when the target is Jimmy Stewart or Bob Hope, the attacks can not be excused. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 28 Jul 03 - 06:57 PM PDQ, I think I understand what you are saying. I'm not sure though that somebody like that other guest who took time out from writing his manifesto to post on Mudcat is really somebody on "our" side. That poor guest needs to realize that the world is different from the one inside his tar paper shack. Trees have to bend in order to survive. McGrath - I'm glad he didn't retire. Hope was known for quite a bit more than those early movies. You have to judge a man as a whole, not just a small part. His U.S.O. tours and his charity work make up a part of his picture. His work on radio really helped set the stage for variety shows that would follow both on radio and TV - and I'm not talking about just the ones he did. His style and format were often copied. While he may not have authored all his own jokes, his delivery made them his own. Hope poked fun at everyone, including himself. His jokes were corny at times, and I would not classify him as a political humorist, but he did let the right have it just as much as the left. He was not mean spirited by any means, even though some may have hinted at that in their posts. Hope helped us laugh at ourselves. As I said earlier, he was able to do this during the dark hours of WWII and that is probably an often overlooked accomplishment. I don't know how true this is, but I just heard on the radio that knowing the end was coming, his wife asked him where he wanted to be buried. His answer was "surprise me". Ron |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:00 PM "It was easier for you liberals to excuse the rant against Strom Thurmond, but when the target is Jimmy Stewart or Bob Hope, the attacks can not be excused." PDQ- I may be missing what you are trying to say here. Could you expand that thought a bit? |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:09 PM "You liberals?" Again, what the hell are you talking about? Sounds to me like you pigeon-hole people on the basis of what you think they believe, then either agree with them or argue with them on that basis. Simplistic. Cheesy thinking. When someone calls me a "liberal"--or for that matter, when someone calls me a "conservative--and that has happened--I know that they are not really hearing what I'm saying, they're hearing some collection of prepackaged ideas that they have tucked away in their heads. From that point on, I figure they're not worth arguing with. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Banjer Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:10 PM Why is it that every fucking thing that appears on this board anymore, no matter what the subject, gets turned into a political or religious argument. Can't anybody be civil anymore? Bob Hope did a LOT for the morale of our ARmed Forces over a great span of time. Why drag dirty laundry into it. If you didn't like him fine, that's your perogative, but let this be a memorial as it was intended, not a political/religious/social issue broohaha! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:15 PM Exactly so, Banjer. Bob Hope was an entertainer, not a politician. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,pdq Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:20 PM Ron: The anti-conserative rant goes on all day, in every medium except (part of) radio. Please ask yourself if the personal attacks on people are because those folks did something wrong or because they were conservative. You and your fellow progressives had no trouble condemning Strom Thurmond, a man I know nothing about and care to know no more. You liberals need to get a better perspective. Jimmy Stewart , Bob Hope and Buddy Ebsen were all staunchly conservative, which is the only reason they have received such an unholy sendoff by the usual crowd of haters. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Deckman Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:29 PM I had a cup of coffee with Bob Hope in 1964. It was quite a pleasant experience. I lived in a little town in the Santa Cruz mountains. Every Sunday morning, I would walk down the hill from my house, walk in the back door of the local bakery/coffee shop, and have a doughnut and coffee and visit with the baker. He'd do his doughnuts, I'd drink coffee and read the paper. There were a few of us locals that always started our Sundays like this. It was a small town thing to do. One day, it was just the baker and I, and in walked Bob Hope and two "suits." There was no doubt who he was. I've always been very comfortable around celebrities, knowing that we all put our pants on one leg at a time. No big deal. He and his associates started talking with the baker. After a couple of minutes, I turned to him, introduced myself, and asked him to be quiet as I was reading my paper. He laughed so hard his face turned red! It turned out that he was in town, village really, to buy that shop. The owner was in finacial need. Bob Hope bought the shop, kept the baker on, and nothing ever changed. The doughnuts and pastries stayed the same, the staff stayed the same, and the back door was always open at five in the morning. I think the one feeling that I remember, above all, was that this was just another guy, who absolutly loved to laugh, and was very human. I obviously recognised him, yet I had the balls to ask to be quieter ... and he loved it ... and so did I. Rest in peace. CHEERS, Bob |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:35 PM PDQ - I'm not sure why you are lumping me into the "anti-conservative" rant and putting me in the same catagory with those who "need to get a better perspective" on people like Bob Hope and the rest. Seems to me like you have stereotyped me without knowing me. Isn't that what you are saying the others are doing? As I thought I made very clear, I have a great respect for Bob Hope. For that matter, I also loved Jimmy Stewart. One of my favorite films was The Quiet Man, which is has some nasty stereotypes in it, is very demeaning towards women, and stars the poster child for the right wing conservative actors. While I consider myself a liberal and a progressive, but not in the terms that "guest" uses it. I do feel that everyone has a right to their opinion, and I will not deny anyone that right. I do make an effort to see where they are coming from, unlike a lot of people here and on radio. I will fight back when I see someone making blanket statements that have nothing to do with the truth. (Not meaning you PDQ, just the other cretin who posted earlier.) I do agree with you and others that this forum was meant for a respectful tribute to Bob Hope. I am sorry I jumped into this, but my original post was trying to show how that "guest" was speaking out of turn. Again, I think the world has lost a wonderful man. He gave more of himself then most people give him credit for. He made us laugh, and still does. I will miss him. Ron |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Bill D Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:40 PM perhaps 50 years ago, Bob Hope played Wichita, Kans. He was booked into "The Forum", an old cavernous auditorium that was torn down about 1960 (he stood on the stage you can see in the pic)....he was introduced, walked out slowly and gazed at the audience in the hanging balconies...and looked...and looked......and finally, after 15-20 seconds, he leaned over to the microphone with a quizzical look and asked: "....ummm...what time do the bats fly out?" the audience howled! this was LONG before I cared about his politics or worried that his humor was dated...It may be that writer gave him that line *shrug*, but it was **HOPE** that delivered it, and it was classic. I don't CARE that he got rich from his trips to Korea, etc..he went! Every Christmas for years, and many other times in between. He actually risked his neck a few times, and he did what was needed, when it was needed. I'd rather he had had been a bit 'different' in his attitudes, but then maybe he wouldn't have been Bob Hope, who fit what the times needed in the 40s & 50s... Let the man rest in peace! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Deckman Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:44 PM Hey folks ... simmer down! It gets REAL SIMPLE! Rise above it. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: Bill D Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:46 PM *grin*...actually, Bob stood right where the side of beef is in this picture. He would probably be amused. Deckman...that is a great story about the bakery. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Bob Hope dies at 100 From: GUEST,pdq Date: 28 Jul 03 - 07:56 PM Ron: Thanks for explaination. If I have lumped you with the left wing goon squad I was wrong. I would like, however, for liberals to do a better job of rejecting their fringe elements. As a conservative, I am tired of having my side linked to lynchings, toxic waste dumps, and everything else wrong in the world. Hope, Crosby, Gable, Stewart, Stack, Ebsen, all must be respected for their contributions. Bringing in politics shows, well, no class. |
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