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BS: Lord Stanley's Cup

wysiwyg 18 May 08 - 04:01 PM
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wysiwyg 18 May 08 - 06:53 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:01 PM

PENS are on! :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: gnu
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:37 PM

I predict the Pens will be in the Cup.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:53 PM

Might be. :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Ben Franklin
Date: 19 May 08 - 02:42 PM

(1) Congrats to the Pens and good luck in the Finals...


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 08 - 03:13 PM

GO PENGWINGS!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 19 May 08 - 07:50 PM

Well, 12 minutes before the puck drops - give 'em hell boys -
GO RED WINGS! BEAT DALLAS!


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 19 May 08 - 07:56 PM

I got three beer in the fridge. Maybe I should run out and get a few more.
"Go Wings"


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 08 - 09:01 PM

Dey're goin', dey're goin'....

1 Stout and one NA beer down the hatch.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 08 - 09:07 PM

PS maybe we can all get on PalTalk to watch the Finals together.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 19 May 08 - 09:57 PM

Don't know about PalTalk Susan. Must be a cost if it is anything like PayPal.
"Z's" goal was a beauty. A little concerned with the number of penalties by McCarty. Maybe he is not use to the new rule changes.
\Back to the Third.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 08 - 10:00 PM

It WAS a beaut. They certainly deserve to win. D'ya think if they know how much I rooted for 'em they'll be nice and give our Pens home ice?

:~)

BTW we have our predictions going here at home already.

We think that if the Pens can manage to win both of their first two at Mellon, they may stand a chance. And we want Roberts in all 7 games.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 08 - 10:01 PM

Guarding OUR crease.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 19 May 08 - 10:47 PM

Trying to look at this whole playoff objectively I do believe that the two best teams have come out on top and lets hope that they both play to their potential. Detroit in 7.
and Happy Birthday Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 19 May 08 - 11:03 PM

YES! YES! YES! You know, I have been worried since that second loss to Dallas, but just minutes before the start of tonights game
I had a calming feeling come over me that indicated the Wings were
going to win tonight - just a feeling, I'm not claiming any sixth
sense or anything, now.

So, it's on to meet the Pens. I have great respect for Crosby,
Maltkin and Hossa - it should be a great series. GO RED WINGS!
Cheers - from Hockeytown South.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 19 May 08 - 11:06 PM

Tex! I felt those vibes all the way up here. This should be fun.
"Go Wings".


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 May 08 - 11:08 PM

Thanks, Adrien.

I think both teams will feel like they are looking in a mirror. Except that the Wings don't have a Roberts, or a Ruutu, or a Laraque. So I think we will eventually have better crease access-- there are only so many minutes Chelios can play. But the Wings will have that wily hockey expertise..... I think I will be buying a lot of blank videotape.

But WAAAAAAAHHHHH! No hockey, till SATURDAY?!?!?!?!?

Um, back to the ECHL for a coupla days, maybe AHL....

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 May 08 - 09:34 AM

Those dear lads...... they came through for their poor old Uncle Mick. Bless them. Had a little hiccup, but now it is on to

SPANK THE PENGUINS!!!!

GO RED WINGS!!!

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 08 - 10:52 AM

Catters gather now, at our place, for the Finals.....

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Rich
Date: 20 May 08 - 05:29 PM

Pens in 6

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 20 May 08 - 08:18 PM

Wings in 7


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 May 08 - 09:26 PM

Either team, in 7, is what we want. More hockey!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 20 May 08 - 11:56 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 20 May 08 - 11:58 PM

Sorry about that - hit the wrong button.
Beer - I agree with you - WINGS IN 7
GO RED WINGS! Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 21 May 08 - 08:34 PM

This could be one of the greatest series Since, since, oh I don't know when. I just hope that it is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 May 08 - 10:14 AM

That's why y'all jut GOTTA come to my house for it! :~)

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 22 May 08 - 05:01 PM

I'm afraid my hitching days are over. Any way if I was to hitch a ride I would probably be charged for the lift to help pay for the gas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 23 May 08 - 10:18 AM

This could be a very interesting series.

I think if the Penguins don't mentally fold to the pressure they will win.

Either Pens in seven or Wings in five.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 May 08 - 11:10 AM

Either Pens in seven or Wings in five.

That sounds so oddly right.

I do not think they will fold to the pressure, though. I don't think this one will be the mental game the Sens games were.... pure hockey, hockey, hockey..... I just think the Wings' experienced D-men may know a few tricks our young talent may not yet have had to slither around on a regular basis, and it is possible the Wings' scorers will have a few slithery dekes of their own that our younger D haven't had to, um, interrupt.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 May 08 - 04:05 PM

Here's the schedule (EST). My predictions in bold.

Sat., May 24 8:00 p.m. Pittsburgh at Detroit VERSUS, CBC, RDS
Mon., May 26 8:00 p.m. Pittsburgh at Detroit VERSUS, CBC, RDS
Wed., May 28 8:00 p.m. Detroit at Pittsburgh NBC, CBC, RDS
Sat., May 31 8:00 p.m. Detroit at Pittsburgh NBC, CBC, RDS
*Mon., Jun 2 8:00 p.m. Pittsburgh at Detroit NBC, CBC, RDS
*Wed., Jun 4 8:00 p.m. Detroit at Pittsburgh NBC, CBC, RDS
*Sat., Jun 7 8:00 p.m. Pittsburgh at Detroit NBC, CBC, RDS

* If necessary

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 May 08 - 09:03 PM

Oh WOWWWWWWWWWW.... that cameraman has GOT to have whiplash by now, and I LOVE that goal-judge cam on the power plays!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 24 May 08 - 09:56 PM

So far a great game. Like it is back and forth.
Go Wing Go


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 24 May 08 - 11:03 PM

No I won't rub anything in. To early to do that. Great game for Wing Fans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 08 - 04:18 AM

Too true. It ain't over til it's over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 25 May 08 - 06:56 AM

Your up early Gnu? What for breakfast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 May 08 - 08:36 AM

Well, it's a great coaching and defense battle-- it took 2 periods for the Wings to get the Pens' number and set 'em back on their heels. Now we have to see what the Pens do in response, especially Therrien. It did not surprise me to see the Wings win the first one.

In the first period it looked like the Pens dictated the speed and that it it was just a hair faster then the Wings were accustomed to, and that this forced the Wings to take shots on net a little too fast and a little off the mark. A pastoral event came up in the second period and I did not get a chance to see what the Wings did to change that, but clearly they adjusted something and it worked for them.

I thought the biggest single mistake was that Therrien didn't take a time out when it got to 2-0. The rest of the players' mistakes flowed from there. One of those was that when you camp out in front of the crease, waiting for a puck to land on your stick, ya gotta be facing the net, not the red line, to one-time the centering pass.

It took 4 Sens losses last year for the Pens to learn their lesson about the playoffs. I'm hoping it only will take 1 or 2 losses from the Wings to learn the necessary lesson about the Final. If they do, they can win their 2 home games and we'll have a series.

And if not, GO WINGS.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 08 - 10:47 AM

No, Beer, I slept in til 5. It's Sunday!


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 May 08 - 11:29 AM

Therrien is kjbown for his extraordinarily precise planning. I would think, based on seeing the specific ways he's adjusted his curriculum for the bys, that G2 will be an exercise in simply scoring. Even one goal scored properly will prepare the boys for G3 on home ice. Not enough is said in this year's coverage about the advantages of home ice-- bench location, kine changes at faceoffs, faceoffs themselves, etc.; it's not really about the fans although that IS what all teams' players have been coached to say to the media this year. IF the Pens follow this curriculum faithfully and IF they are able to use their home-ice advantages effectively, THEN the rest of my predictions would be reasonable except that I am not sure their win in Detroit will come in G5 or G7. (Today, I would say G7.) But we'll have to see, and the Wings are certainly playing like a team that means to go all the way, as systematically and ferociously as they can. (Even a Pens fan's gotta love those Red Wings.)

I do know for sure that today the whole Pens organization is reviewing the G1 game film to see not only what they did wrong (they already know that anyway), but exactly what the Wings did that boxed them off their game, and what they already know that they can employ to correct that success. And that should result in a more nail-biting G2 for us all.

Therrien will be steadying them after that review (and in tomorrow's practice and/or team meeting) to remind them that they do have some stuff in their bag of tricks that they can use to their advantage, and he will be telling them privately that it is not important whether they win G2 but rather whether they learn what they need to learn to finish the series the way they want to finish it.

All I know is, I can't wait to see what they all do next, and I hope we get all 7 games of fun before the season ends.

GO LORD STANLEY!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 25 May 08 - 12:13 PM

Well Susan one thing the Wings did was kill of the penalties that they were taking way to much of and this discouraged the Pens. Especially when they came right back and scored. Some great help from the cross bars post and Osgood also played a major role.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 25 May 08 - 01:34 PM

So many have said so much, both here, in the Free Press, and in the Pittsburgh paper as well; but, my wife and I watched one hell-of-a hockey game last night that should have been scored 5-0 - but that's another issue.

The Wings played very well; and, it seems to me that the inability of the Pens to do what they "normally" do was due in no small part to the fact that they were playing the Wings - not the Rangers or the Flyers. The Wings have been the best team in the NHL all year, day in and day out - and that cannot be discounted. They are a very good team; and, I believe - a team of destiny.

This is to take nothing away from the Pens who are a fine team too, and surely, the Wings are not going to cruise through this series
by any means, but I'll be surprised if they don't ultimately take it. Having said that - this is some great hockey being played.

What a wonderful play Sammy made to score the first goal - taking the puck from behind the blue line, skating virtually unmolested around the net back and coming in for a wrap-a-round - WOW, some play. There was good checking, crisp passing and tons of heads-up
play on both sides. I recall one of the most incredible moves I've ever seen when Crosby came across the blue line with the puck and headed inward towards the net; he ran into a defenseman who had great position so Crosby reversed his body to the outside with a single body-flip-in-motion and didn't slow down an iota - he was stopped on that play but that one move showed me what he's capable of - WOW.

My big problem with the NHL is that Crosby is a great player, but so is Datsyuk, and Lidstrom, and Zetterberg, and Modano, and Sakic, and Hossa, etc.,... Don't make this league revolve around one guy - Gordie Howe's and Wayne Gretzky's don't come down the path every year - sell the league, not one player. The NBA has been looking for the "next Michael Jordan" since he retired - the hell with it, there is no "next Michael Jordan" - promote the league and all the great players therein and let the cream rise to the top.

Hey, I'm starting to rant so it's time to go,...well, it's not just time to go, it's time to - GO RED WINGS! Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 May 08 - 03:02 PM

Tex, I agree with you, and so does Crosby. Hype is hype is hype. The NHL has a thorough strategic plan and that includes media; every player now is coached on the right "talking points" for every occasion. Hm, it's a bit cult-like in that respect. :~)

Therrien has one more trick up his sleeve he could play if he really is the cold-blooded, genius-quality son of a bitch I hope he is. :~) I think I'll keep that one to myself for now, though.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 May 08 - 05:50 PM

I got a look this afternoon at what they Wings did that the Pens will need to adjust tonight. The commentators are already talking about that precise thing, because the coaches are too; Crosby, I understand, took it up with the team as well.

It's all about the neutral zone. The Pens have had a great loose sort of trap thing-- a box instead of the more familiar triangle or wall-type-- and the Wings had a good plan in place for that. The Pens will need to take another tack. They do have a few to try. :~)

Oughtta be a good one.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: bobad
Date: 26 May 08 - 07:19 PM

They also have to counter the Wings' relentless forecheck and win more battles on the boards.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 26 May 08 - 08:07 PM

Well, the steak is on the grill, the box is a-glow from The Joe, and the puck is about to drop,...cool. GO RED WINGS! Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 May 08 - 11:20 PM

They also have to counter the Wings' relentless forecheck...

Boy, I'll say.

The Pens are used to being the only ferociously fast team. The Wings have clearly been better prepared to meet skills on a par with their own as the starting point, and to go one level higher to overcome it.

I'm really disturbed by the Roberts hit on Franzen (to the head), at the end of an otherwise healthy and clean check. I think he should be suspended for that one.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 26 May 08 - 11:30 PM

That one truly pissed me off as well. The team rallied to protect Osgood but no one came to for Franzen. I think this will be spoken about in the dressing room. It better.
Susan, you mentioned a few things that were to be a surprise for the Red wing team? I didn't see them happen. Therrien and his precise planning better not wait to long.
Go you beautiful Wings Go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 27 May 08 - 12:13 AM

Susan, I agree with you on Franzen. Everyone knows that he has been out with headaches, re: concussion concerns. That was one very cheap shot that should have been penalized - I don't like to see that kind of stuff from anyone. In fact, I was not one of those who was happy to see Bertuzzi in a Red Wing uniform last year and was not unhappy to see him go at the end of the season.

Beer (and Susan) - you know, I'm not so sure that anyone saw the hit by Roberts on Franzen; and, the Wings have an attitude going during this playoffs that says, "don't retalliate." That is not to say that the Wings are not hitting either, because they are.

I'm listening to Detroit talk radio right now and the call-in fans are furious over the Franzen hit. I like to stay level-headed about the game and keep it simple; I love a good clean hit as much as the next guy, but when players give in to cheap shots it becomes real easy to dislike them. I sincerely hope that the Wings continue to stay clean headed and simply keep kicking ass. GO RED WINGS! Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 May 08 - 08:48 AM

If the officials don't see something, they are prevented by league rules from calling it-- that's what the suspension process is meant to address, where league officials can ask for all relevant footage of an incident and make a punitive determination on their own. A penalty lasts just a few minutes, but a suspension costs the player and team his playing time when they most wish they could have it, as well as stiff fines. It's a substantial deterrent that can be triggered by league officials on their own or, if they miss it, by the team whose player was endangered.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: maire-aine
Date: 27 May 08 - 09:36 AM

I agree with the comments about the hit on Franzen, but the real "revenge" is for the Wings to go out there and win the next 2 games.

GO WINGS!

Maryanne (in Mich)


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 27 May 08 - 11:06 AM

Where is Chris Chelios? I haven't heard anything. Is he injured?


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Subject: RE: BS: Lord Stanley's Cup
From: Beer
Date: 27 May 08 - 11:07 AM

Maryanne, welcome on board.


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