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Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming

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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: GUEST,kt not logged in
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 02:57 AM

Ebbie, GUFFAW!!!!!! (that's SO much more satisfying than lol!!)

Heck, you don't even have to fit into my carry on- I'd gladly pay the $25.00 for another bag!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: GUEST,kt not logged in
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 02:58 AM

ummm....to PUT you in, that is.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Micca
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 08:29 AM

Anyone leaving The Getaway going to Silver Spring MD on Monday 5th October? I need a ride Chez Chance and Suzette as they usually have to leave on Sunday eve.
many Thanks in advance
Micca


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Nancy King
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 08:48 AM

No problem, Micca. Should be several of us going in that direction Monday morning. In fact, I'll take you myself! I'll have to stick around for a while at the camp helping clean up and collecting hugs, then be on my way.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 10:22 AM

Yep...and if she can't, I can..we are usually about the last to leave.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Barry Finn
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 12:08 PM

Micca, where are you before the getaway (and why aren't you up here in NH) and where are you after it?

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: My guru always said
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 12:16 PM

Barry: Sadly Micca has not been allowed out to play from work early enough & will arrive in time for Chance & Susette's pre-Getaway Sing!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Micca
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 12:42 PM

Barry, Hils has eloquently described the "problem" they won't give me the extra time off to get to the Portsmouth festival, but after the Getaway, I plan to be in Maine and NH for the AGM of the NH-UK friendship group meeting and to visit friends and relatives in both states so I hope I get to see and sing with you then.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: ClaireBear
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 12:57 PM

If anyone is heading to the Getaway from the area of Dulles sometime after 7:00am Friday and either does or doesn't have a car, I would be happy either to need a ride or to offer one.

I have a rental on reserve but would just as soon not use it, if I can find another way to get to West River and back (my flight out from Dulles is on Monday at 5:30pm).

And if I am going to use a rental car, I'd love to help someone else get to the Getaway, with or without sharing the cost.

Cheers,
Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Amos
Date: 24 Sep 09 - 08:25 PM

Weather forecast:

October 1 Sunshine Low: 51 °FHigh: 70 °F

Friday, Oct 2 Mostly sunny Low: 53 °FHigh: 69 °F

Saturday, Oct 3 Periods of rain Low: 48 °FHigh: 68 °F

Sunday, Oct 4 A passing afternoon showerLow: 53 °FHigh: 70 °F

Monday, Oct 5 An afternoon showerLow: 58 °F


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Sep 09 - 09:54 PM

Claire...PM of inquiry about schedules sent.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Janie
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 12:13 AM

In my suitcase, I will carry....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: kendall
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 06:44 AM

I hope to have a couple of new recordings this year. More stuff that was dredged up from the past. There will be a CD and a DVD IF I can get me computer out of the shop in time!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 09:04 AM

In my suitcase, I will carry.... auction items, clean underwear and a toothbrush, various books promised to various people, and a bottle of (cough medicine).....

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 09:07 AM

(((cough)))


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 10:01 AM

Do you need to specify *clean* underwear?

In my van I will have, among other things, a box with a big plastic bag for stray, empty {cough medicine} bottles that might appear.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Severn
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 10:29 AM

Bill,

To strike a syrup-ticious tonic chord, may your coughers be filled by the end of the weekend by empty coughin's seeking a decent burial. Now, that's Cold Comfort, I realize, indeed (and in word, but here's hoping that all ills be cured as thoroughly as can, say, a Smithfield Ham.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 11:31 AM

hmmm.. I 'may' need to bring an extra bag for purveyors of excessive puns.... *grin&


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 11:53 AM

Bill,

Got a better idea--all you need are a couple of cans labeled as "Pun Fine" cans. Stick one in each room. Someone cracks a pun--they gotta drop in a nickel (or dime, or quarter). Proceeds go to the Scholarship Fund.

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Severn
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 12:22 PM

Gary,

Some of the worst of us would have to deposit enough money that we'd have to go broke and have to draw on the fund money just to be able to pay our way back in next year, so, in the end, they'd only still break even.....


But forewarned, may have to be fore-almed, if we're forced to offer admissions of gilt. Next thing you know, they'll be asking similar donations for such things as all mention of sailors named Jack, all unhappy endings of ballads or for all songs beginning with "As I Roved Out...".

I realize that people have tried finding ways for many years of making Folk Music pay, but.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 12:30 PM

Let me preface this by saying I consider it a privilege to attend the Getaway, and am staggered by the value for the money....

However... the registration page says that 2 or more are cheaper with a membership. I'm assuming that if more than 2 are registering, one would purchase a family membership, in which case it would cost more, rather than less $$.

Dani (wayyyyy out-of-towner)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 03:42 PM

In my suitcase I will carry...
harmonicas, shorts (if its warm enough), wool sweater (if its cold enough), bib overalls and clod-hoppers for the Bluegrass Session, crabtrap, crab seasonings in case I catch crabs, earplugs to ward off the snorings of my roommates, full set of Childe's Ballads so I can follow along, and other things of less importance.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Sep 09 - 07:04 PM

Better off with a little kerosene for the crabs, EJ....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 12:35 AM

Don't bring matches.:)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 02:15 AM

I'm talking about the crabs in the Bay just 50 feet from the Dining Hall. Maryland is the crab capital of the country, right?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 02:25 AM

Ernie, there's a nice restaurant across the water from camp, and they have several good crab dishes. Let's go early and go out to eat. Even if you DO catch a crab, I don't think the camp is going to let you cook it in their new dining hall.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 08:05 AM

The Bay is about all crabbed out anyway, EJ... What is being sold as crabmeat is usually skate wings... LOL...

(Don't listen to Boberdz, EJ... There are plenty of crabs in the Bay...)

Oh yeah??? Then why are they $25 a dozen???

Nevermind...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 12:16 PM

Don't be so crabby, Joe.

And Bobert, what does a guy from West Bigod Virginia know about crabs anyway? I mean, I'm sure you are an expert on squirrel, coon, possum, crawdad, and other of the Mountaineer basic food groups, but crab?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 12:41 PM

THey do a lot of crabbing out there, Lonesome--'speshully the wimminfolk.



A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 01:09 PM

you never know!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Severn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 01:51 PM

Last year, some attending friends who don't sing went off for the afternoon and ate some hard shell crabs. They had six left over and they brought them back to West River and gave them to me. There were more than I could eat when I brought them out after dinner, so I thought I'd share some of our World famed Maryland cuisine with some of my UK friends. One was game but inexperienced and struggled a bit, one declined politely, another shuddered in revulsion when I opened one up. I gave up on cultural exchange, called over some coastal-raised friends and we tore right into them.

So it's crabcakes, flounder styffed with crabmeat, Crab Norfolk or the like for those who don't like a mess or working a bit for your meal and and some newspapers to spread on the table, lots of napkins and a mallet or sharp knife at least for the hardcore hardshell crab lovers, but for goodness sakes, get some Maryland Seafood while you're in the area!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 01:58 PM

Severn,
When in your part of the world, I usually go for the crabcakes, with a little hot sauce. Never actually cracked into a crab. Do you just eat the legs or is the torso where the good stuff is? (I can hear the Vegans gagging already).
Joe, I'd love to get some crab at that restaurant where you and I and Amos have eaten before, if we get to the camp early enough.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Severn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 02:36 PM

LEJ,


You open up the crab by pulling up on the "bib" underneath, take off the top shell half and turn it over to put waste matter in, scrape out the gills and mustardy-looking stuff inside and what's left is the good backfin meat (what you refer to as torso) encased in a shell you have to break open, and the legs and claws. You pull off the legs and claws and attack the good backfin meat first. A sharp knife, a wooden mallet or a metal nutcracker can be used as aids in breaking the shell and getting to the best meat. You then pick out the meat with your fingers and eat it as you go. Restaurants usually issue bibs for the crab eaters. A couple of strategically placed paper bags will hold all the shells that get thrown away.Newspapers will be spread across the top of the table. The legs and claws get cracked next and the meat (good, but in Blue Crabs, not as good as the body meat)gets picked from them. A dish of melted butter is usually set by to dip the crabmeat in. When the first one is thoroughly demolished and picked clean, you start on your next one. Beer is the traditional drink of choice with the hardshell crabs, and some beer, along with Old Bay Seasoning and whatever else, is part of what's added to the water in the big pot that they are boiled in.

It's a messy, but wonderful experience, and I'll serve as guide for any party that wants to go out and order some, as I'm not working at the moment and I'll actually get there at a decent daylight time well rested for once. The Maryland tradition is to get large amounts of people on a weekend and order crabs by the bushel and feast on large numbers of them.


....but crabcakes are perfectly wonderful, as well.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Barry Finn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 03:11 PM

"When in your part of the world, I usually go for the crabcakes, with a little hot sauce. Never actually cracked into a crab. Do you just eat the legs or is the torso where the good stuff is? (I can hear the Vegans gagging already)."

EJ, you eat anything that's not hard! Hah,Hah

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Fortunato
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 03:46 PM

EJ, scholars differ about eating everything you find in the shell. A well cooked crab will yield some backfin lump when you pull the swimmer legs away, and oftem a bit with each leg. The legs themselve are not worth much unless its a VERY large crab.

Unlike Barry the mighty Finn, I don't eat the greenish 'mustard' or gray gills, inside the shell.

Severn has it right above, except I like to crack the shell or carapace in two halves to facilitate retrieving the white flesh of the crab. You should know the latin name for the Blue Crab is Callinectes Sapidus, Beautiful Swimmer.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 03:55 PM

quick images

It's not hard to learn the basics, but it takes a few trips to get fast and 'complete' at it. (The first time I tried it, I allowed as how crabs were a good diet food, as the calories expended were almost as much as those gained from the meal...not counting the beer, of course)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 04:21 PM

Wow. Labor-intensive for the reward gained. I'm surprised the crab cakes aren't more expensive. Unless, of course, there's a lot of something else beside crab in them.
And what's Crab Norfolk?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Barry Finn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 04:30 PM

no fork needed

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 04:44 PM

Are you sh&##*ng me Barry? Did I just fall for the oldest joke on the east coast?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 04:44 PM

Getting close to time
Goin' cross thatline
Fly a big jet airplane
Back in time.....

Hey, I yam gettin' excited at the prospect!!



A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Fortunato
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 06:48 PM

Crab cakes are supposed to look like a baseball made of backfin. Not a brown, deep-fried, wafer of bread crumbs with crab juice sprayed on.

A chef will use a little egg batter to hold it together.

Wait, wait, this is a Getaway thread. yes, we will see some of you soon at the pregetaway singaround. We usually stop at the Royal Mile Pub for Lunch around 1:00 or so for lunch on Friday and then on to West River. I take the southern route, disliking Rt 50.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 07:09 PM

Pregetawegnant with anticipation!


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 07:36 PM

Well, first of all, yeah... I did my 20 years in Wes Ginny but...

...before that I lived in Virginny and Virginny is crab country... Okay, maybe not southwest Virginniy but everyone else is crab pickers... Now crab pickin' ain't all about crab... It's about the important stuff like socializin' and gettin' fallin' down drunk... Ya' see, there really ain't enough real food in crabs to absorb the alcohol so everyone goes to crab pickin's for one purpose, which I allready alluded to which is the drunk part...

Speakin' of gettin' drunk, Amos, howz about stoppin' in one of them baggie stores in California and pick me up a bag of good weed??? There ain't much good weed 'round these parts 'cause you Wes Coasters done got it all stashed fir yerselves... So, how about it, pal???

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Janie
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 08:29 PM

Right, Bobert. Tell him to hide it in his shoe. They'll never find it there. Right?

LEJ, approaching the end of the season, anyway, at least that far north on the Bay. And if they're around, don't need no crab pot. A chicken wing or thigh with a string tied around it and a net will suffice.

Annie took us to a large community clambake/crabfeast at Crisfield, MD, this summer. It is apparently a huge local event designed for all the local politicians to shake everyone's hand. Pay a single fee, and all the blue crabs, fried clams, fried fish fillets, corn-on-the-cob and sweet potato fries you can eat, as well as all the Michelob, Budweiser, and CocaCola products you can drink.

I opted for the crabs and bottled water. I got tired, physically, and also of the carnage, before I got full.

I guess I'll be glad to settle for the frozen flounder or ocean perch fillet that is bound to be an offering one night in the cafeteria.

Besides, you don't want them harps rusting when they fall out 'o yer pocket when you lean over to net a crab off the little dock.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 09:04 PM

No lie... I was over at my brother's beat up marina (boyz club) in Deale, Md. which is about 10 minutes from the Getaway and I was crabbin' from the dock and bent over to try to net up a crab and my cell phone fell outta my shirt pocket... Never did find it... Plus, I missed the crab...

That's just one of the reason why I play the blues...

Yo, Amos... Don't listen to Janie... Put the weed in yer geetar case... They run them thru the x-ray machine before stickin' 'um in the baggage compartment but that's about it... No body cavity stuff... No sniffy dogs... Just stick it in there and all will be fine... Girls???... Always trying to get ya' caught doin' dumb stuff??? Like what's that all about, anyway??? Geetar case, ya' hear???

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 09:10 PM

Severn gave me a crab after dinner at the last Getaway. It really was terrific. We get a lot of crab here in Northern California in the Spring, but not much the rest of the year - so Severn's crab was a real treat. I guess that was the first hardshell crab I've eaten on the East Coast, since I like the crabcakes so much and I get my share of hardshell crab here in California.
Crab tastes best when you catch it and cook it yourself, but I've done that only once.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Janie
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 09:26 PM

On the advantage of being a ggiirrll.

Been crabbing with my sis a few times out on the Chesapeake Bay, with limited success catching crabs of legal size. However, I remember being out with her in a canoe, probably 20+ years ago. We were having some success with our chicken parts and strings, but doubtful we were going to haul in enough blue crabs to serve as a main course for 4. A motorized skiff approached us, handsome young man aboard. He pulled along side and handed over close to 1/2 bushel legal-sized crabs, smiled broadly, then powered away.

I hope to hear some "skipjack" songs this weekend. While there are plenty of well-known sea chanties, I'll be curious to learn of any songs regarding "Watermen," i.e. any tradition of song among commercial fishermen (aside from whalers) among the bays and coastal waters of the mid-Atlantic coastal region.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Barry Finn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 10:05 PM

Janie, try the Manhaden shanties & songs of the Georgia Sea Islands, loaded with songs of the inshore fisheries

Did loads of crabbing as a kid on Cape Cod, we get blue crabs there too. I also got some crab at last yrs getaway, it's well worth the work, lot like working on a lobster but you unNew Englanders wouldn't know much bout lobsters if you were bit by one.

For crabbing we used to use dead dogs as bait until we ran out of dead dogs. We'd run down the dogs with a string cans tied together & corral them & then let the bugs at them. Where'd we get the bugs you might ask? We'd go bug hunting in the tenement alleys, we'd use rotten potatoes to lure them out of hiding then use the same tin cans we used to catch the dogs, on the bugs. They were huge bugs but the cans were those gallon size cans, the industrial type cans. We used to get the cans from the old brewery. You may not believe but in the area of Boston where I grew up, right down the street from my grandfather's house there were at least 5 of 6 breweries, in time most where all burnt down , I think 1 or 2 are still standing, empty of course. Back to the cans. When they were mixing the hops & yeast & the other stuff they'd have these huge 1 gallons cans, tons of them & I never knew what was in them cause the labels were always charred off them but they had them & when they were finished with them they stocked them out by the loading docks & waited till Friday for the collection guy to come around with his horse & buggy & collect them them. We never stole the cans, we bargined with the buggie guy for them. We'd trade him horse food for the cans. Yup, really, these horses were big & needed all kinds of food & we had a good in with the crabbers who'd give us crabs if we left them alone & didn't bother them for protection money. We never was gonna hurt them, them bei8ng pretty mean themselves & they never really needed protection either but that's what made our world back then run. Speaking of running anyone ever run down a dead dog?

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Severn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 10:33 PM

I think we've just been baited by a master!

At least the dead dogs got a proper Barry-al by "Back" Finn, the crabber from the horse and buggie days.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 - other stuff than programming
From: Severn
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 10:44 PM

200

LEJ, Crab Norfolk is in a butter sauce. I don't have the exact recipe in the seafood book I have.


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