What is a 'sesh'?

Subject: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:54 AM

Does any one else feel like me, that the word 'session' is not too much of a mouthful and does not really need to be abbreviated?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:56 AM

Sesh near Aberdare 7 Oct

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:00 AM

It saves saying something sounding like 'secession' when you're drunk, and being mistaken for an American Civil War re-enactor.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:01 AM

Is is what gets draped over the shoulders of the winner of a 'posh' beauty contest?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: treewind
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:35 AM

It's where the "craic" is moighty.

A.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Scrump
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:39 AM

I agree that the word 'session' doesn't need to be abbreviated, but why shouldn't people abbreviate it to 'sesh' if they want to? It's a free country, innit.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:05 AM

the sesh me father wore...?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:10 AM

It saves saying something sounding like 'secession'

If I'd try to say that start of a sentence I'd sound drunk and stuttering even without any alcohol in my blood.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:29 AM

To be fair to the originator of the thread used only as an example - who may also not see the need for this abbreviation to be used in normal conversation - they may not have had much choice but to use it creatively, when creating the title of their thread.

As they may not have been able to fit the words 'Session near Aberdare 7 Oct' into the space that is currently available for ordinary posters to create thread titles. As the following (now closed thread) will explain.

TECH Longer thread titles please?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 07:16 AM

LMAO.........

Now did anyone really believe the thread originator here gave a damn about the "slanging" shall we say of the word session? No, no, no..........The Current Bitchmaster of Mudcat only wants to renew another gripe.

The phrase fits and there are numerous other titles running on the board now that are longer.

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 07:27 AM

didn't you know I'm alliterate, Wolfgang?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,squeezeboxhp
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 07:34 AM

good sesh @ the Slubbers Arms on Halifax Old Rd Huddersfield any thing goes music or song not, neccesarily folky usually CGD@A tunes.

welcome one and all

Ken

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Splott Man
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 07:35 AM

I am that poster.

I abbreviated to save space.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 07:53 AM

I abbreviated to save space.

Ah!

Despite what other posters paranoia may tell them to inform our forum, to assume and speculate publicly about what may be the sinister motivations behind why others may start threads - the thought that this would be the reason for this example - only occurred to me later.

The reason was certainly not to critise the originator of that thread - this was simply a way of showing an example of the term's use. In this case there was obviously a very good reason for its use.

However, I have noticed locally, that the abbreviated term is starting to be used more - and everytime I hear it - it makes me cringe. But there are many other worse things that are far more cringeworthy........

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 08:12 AM

Vu Bist Du Geveyzen Fur Prohibish?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 08:56 AM

I know space can be a problem at times and Splott found that out when he used "Sesh" before in a similar thread title, although a much longer one. On another Session thread he used Session with no problem and it too was longer than the 7 October thread.

I wasn't criticising Splott Man at all. He did a good job on all three threads.

The Current Bitchmaster on the other hand................

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:03 AM

Perhaps the answer is simply to enable posters to create longer thread titles?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:06 AM

Perhaps the answer is to register your complaint with Max and then wait for an update. Your complaint is on file. Drop it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Scrump
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:08 AM

In the distant past, we used to use the term 'sesh' as slang for a drinking session. So when I first heard it applied to folk sessions, it seemed natural to me, although I admit I don't tend to use it in conversation, or even in postings like this one. I can c it cd b useful in txt msgs tho.

Seems odd if it makes people cringe - but each to his/her own.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:15 AM

Language changes - and will do so even more as the present 'text' generation gets older.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Snuffy
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:22 AM

There's bound to be someone along soon telling us that it's really an Irish word that we thieving Brits have stolen, and should be spelled seis

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:25 AM

U don't say, J!? Really gonna B this way? Got 'sesh' got 'dis' got 'props', etc. Earlier generations came up with 'info', 'phone', TV, 'bye', 's'truth', and plenty of other shortened words.

Whether an abbreviated word sticks depends only on whether it's adopted by enough people.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: leeneia
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 10:38 AM

Too much confusion with "seiche." See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiche

Or didn't you realize that the Great Lakes are the center of the world?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Mo the caller
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 10:43 AM

I thought a sesh was the tune equivalent of a sinaround.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:56 AM

Just to add to the confusion, when did 'session' morph into 'seisiun'?
And can 'sesh' be the abbreviation for 'seisiun' even though 'seisiun' is obviously Irish and 'session' is English?
Please help.
Shambles, thankas for bringing this to our attention.

Seamus

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:03 PM

Shambles, thankas for bringing this to our attention.

No problem Seamus - the world just had to be informed.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:36 PM

Yeah.....I got a boner just reading all about it. Thanks for that Mudcat Piss&Moanmeister!!!!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:44 PM

Catspaw - as I do not resort to calling you names. I ask again that you do not do not post to call me names.

For this sets the example that this is acceptable posting behaviour?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 12:48 PM

It isn't namecalling, it's a title. A very apropos title. Kind of like Unnamed Fellow Posters, or Current Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:50 PM

sinaround made my mind wander off to quite pleasurable daydreams. Sometimes it can be an advantage not to be a native speaker. A native speaker would have realised at once the typo interpretation which I needed half a minute to find. But I thank you for that half a minute.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:56 PM

Well Wolfie? Are you going to share? What does one of our non-native speakers think for that 30 seconds? If it is really good we can send it to Penthouse magazine! Besides, I just need the rush......

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 05:59 PM

ye see, when aah wez a lad on Tyneside a 'sesh' was what they hung aroond the shoulder of Miss World just before they put the croon on her heid!

Sex was what yez had your coal delivered in

and a creche wiz a 'shunt' what posh people had in their cars


And taalkin' of coal deliveries..... When we joined the European Union wor coalman got aall bilingual and asked us if we wanted the coal 'a la cart' or 'cul de sack'

We also had a german rent man - he wez called Carl Bach Necks Week

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:01 PM

No, that's too private. You'll have to use your own images.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 06:03 PM

LOL -you have a dangerous and powerful wit 'spaw.

And though your target doesn't give up and would probably deny this, I can feel the cuts from here.

I get the feeling that, rightly or wrongly, he is also the playground punchbag. There are greater challenges for you out there.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 07:23 PM

Ya' know lox, you're probably right, but he didn't used to be. He has written some beautiful lyrics and poetry and for a long time he was taken on the other issues with a grain of salt. But we've been hearing this diatribe in ever building quantities for 8 years now! Sooooo......LOL......Sorry, but every once in awhile I take a day and take a few shots at the lad. Probably a stupid and pissy thing to do but I enjoy it, much as he daily enjoys asking the same already answerewd questions over and over.

This run is about done and I feel recharged for a few weeks!!!

AND WOLFGANG---Are you sure you won't share? I just used my own images and it was completely disgusting....I almost blew chunk.................

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 08:34 PM

A shortening of the word "session" that I've known in common use in the UK since I first learned of sessions in the 80s, and presumably a common shortening long before then...

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 08:39 PM

(I prefer "session" but it's not exactly a shock or an unkonwn to see or hear "sesh")

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:08 PM

My mom, born in 1922, had a friend named Katie since kindergarten. Katie comes from Detroit, and now lives in central Michigan. Anyhow, Katies's the kind of person who would use the term "sesh." She would visit my folks in "Sara," not Sarasota (Florida), and then she'd take a side trip over to "Miam" (Miami). I'm not sure where and when Katie picked this up,   but my dad has been talking about this trait of Katie's for years.
I think it's kind of a 1940's "cool" thing or something.
Maybe it's what octogenarians do for a good time - abbreviate words...

-Joe-

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 09:33 PM

Geez Joe....You need to be getting ready soon. Age is rapidly overtaking you. Your time is near at hand....And speaking of hands, get that thing outta' your hand Man......Damn, that's disgusting! I might toss lunch..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:03 PM

"Maybe it's what octogenarians do for a good time - abbreviate words... "

That would be "octoes" - c'mon, get with it daddy-o!

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:12 PM

My mom, born in 1922, had a friend named Katie since kindergarten.

I think I'll change my name to "Katie Since Kindergarten." I'm overdue for another Mudcat name-change and that will do nicely.

~S~

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:17 PM

Actually Susan, the real question is what was her name BEFORE Kindergarten.

Spaw

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:22 PM

No, "Since" is simply her middle name.

~S~

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Oct 06 - 11:25 PM

A friend since kindergarten named Katie?
That's what I get for hanging around with anal-retentive people...
I can't win.

Anyhow, for being 84, Katie's quite the hot number, even if she does say that dinner was "delish." My sister and I think my dad could do worse.
But hey, isn't there a Gershwin song about abbreviated words like this?
-Joe-

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 12:40 AM

Spaw, you almost blew chunk.
I heard that Chunk is your dog.
True?
This thread is turning into quite a nice sesh..oops, sorry Roger - session.
Or seisiun.
Or procession, recession, secession..whatever.


Seamus

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: GUEST,passing through
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 02:54 AM

Well, it seemed to me that the original post was about the apparent dumbing-down of language. Along similar lines, a current down-dumbing locally is the tendency to refer to a festival as a "fester". That could stop and I'd be glad.

The Shambles does appear in this thread to be the "playground punching bag"; and catspaw49 seems more than a little full-of-self. You yourself become pretty tiresome, Spaw...

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 03:29 AM

I think 'seisiun' possibly originated in the Comhaltas shows of the early 70s, which were supposed to have some of the ambience of a session. I can probably dig out some back copies of Treoir as citation. It was quickly acquired by organised tourist show sessions in hotels, and provided a decent summer income for a lot of young musicians before the tiger economy days.

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 04:43 AM

Perhaps whoever relgated this thread from the music-related section would be kind enough to put it back?

Thank you.

I think 'seisiun' possibly originated in the Comhaltas shows of the early 70s, which were supposed to have some of the ambience of a session. I can probably dig out some back copies of Treoir as citation.

That may well be the case but there are many other uses for the word.

Will we be hearing Court sessions being referred to as Court seshies?

Or a recording sesh?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 09:01 AM

The Queen opened a new sesh of Parliament?

Subject: RE: What is a 'sesh'?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Oct 06 - 10:59 AM

May I protest in this thread that the US-soldiers in Germany don't use the easily pronouncable proper name of Kaiserslautern and just call it K-town instead. And what was wrong with Lysergsäure-diethylamid?

Wolfgang