Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 09 - 04:05 PM Oh, and I suppose YOU've never made a typo, have you, Mr smarty-pants? (grin) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: SINSULL Date: 01 Sep 09 - 04:53 PM Donuel - never underestimate your enemies. If you do not want Palin in the White House or a heart beat away from it, find valid arguments against her perceived stupidity. Simply name calling will not work. We just had eight years of stupidity mindlessly supported by the Republicans and too often the Dems who were more concerned with reelection than the consequences of a war that couldn't be won. Republicans fell in right behind their candidate and still defend her "qualifications". She's not going away. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:14 PM Being stupid doesn't stop someone being elected. In fact it can even help. Smnart candidates frequently make a point of making themselves out to be a lot more stupid than they actually are. Palin may be a case in point. (Bush was not.) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Barry Finn Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:18 PM "The difference is subtle though. Its like the difference of your leg being numb or simply feeling it has "fallen asleep". Ha,Ha,Ha Donel. I'm glad you point out those subtlities. I wasn't sure if she was just plain stupid or dead door nail dumb. Now that I have had another angle in which to view her from I can clearly see that she's neither, she's a totally daft ignoble ignorant. Mary, calling her names is very much approprate. After what she's called those that voted for Obama she's lucky to not have been tarred & feathered & run out on a rail. The only reason she wasn't was because no one wanted to see Little Hawk's exciement reach a critical point. Hopefully China will keep her & we can keep Tami Fay in her place Barry |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:32 PM No, we certainly wouldn't want to see that, would we, Barry? ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Barry Finn Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:37 PM well,,,er,,,, maybe! :/) Barry |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Donuel Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:49 PM My ideas for long winded bumper stickers or sound bites. _________Elect ____Palin - Boehner __President & VP 2012 This time she won't quit Vote Palin or throw in the towel Quiters aren't LOSERS they're quiters Palin is hailin the White House Palin is nailin the polls There's no failin in Palin so by hand or by mail in go get your vote in But Remember QUIT HAPPENS again and again and again |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:53 PM They shoot moose, don't they? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Donuel Date: 01 Sep 09 - 05:56 PM edit Quiters aren't LOSERS they're quiters Palin is hailin the White House Palin is nailin the polls There's no failin in Palin so by hand or by mail in go get your vote in cuz QUIT HAPPENS again and again and again |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 01 Sep 09 - 06:19 PM I forget who wrote: Sarah Palin for President 2012-2014 1/2 As long as you're editing, Don, it's "quitTers" :) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: CarolC Date: 01 Sep 09 - 06:27 PM I don't know how people can say she's librarianesque. I've personally never met a librarian as inarticulate as Sarah Palin. I've met one who was thick (a former mother-in-law), but she wasn't inarticulate. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Donuel Date: 01 Sep 09 - 07:33 PM Tune My Sarah Lies Over the Ocean My Sarah lies over the ocean Sarah lies most of the time Sarah lies on FOX news TV We all know that is'nt a crime bring back bring back bring back my liar to me to me bring back bring back bring back my Sarah to me Palin is sailin to DC Palin is racin to speak Palin forgot all her cliff notes So she opened her mouth for her feet chorus: Palin hears voices to guide her Palin is clued in by God Palin says Jesus loves pipe lines HE said "My God she is awfully odd" chorus Palin is hailn the White House Palin is nailin the polls There's no failin in Palin's election cuz quit happens to silly ass holes Bring back bring back bring back my quitter to me Bring back bring back Pleas bring back my Palin to me. Palin is rakin the pay in Palin hates all the bail outs Palin makes liberals all cringe When she should remain quiet she shouts. Bring back bring back bring back the bible to rule to rule bring back bring back bring back a President fool |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 01 Sep 09 - 09:04 PM "Palin plays Hong Kong Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is traveling to Hong Kong later this month to give her first speech for money since resigning her office. It's a biggie. The 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee will keynote the annual meeting of CLSA Investors Forum, a gathering of global investment managers. Previous speakers to the group have included Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Alan Greenspan. "Our keynote speakers are notable luminaries who often address topics that go beyond traditional finance, such as geopolitics," CLSA spokesperson Simone Wheeler said in a statement. CLSA did not disclose how much money Palin will be paid. The former governor's speech on Sept. 23 will be closed to the press. Palin had a rocky time talking about foreign affairs during the 2008 campaign. The then-governor was widely lampooned for her you-can-see-Russia-from-Alaska statement, and lack of foreign travel. The Anchorage Daily News noted on Monday that Palin received her first passport in 2007, when as governor she visited Alaska National Guard troops stationed in Kuwait and Germany." Does Hong Kong have an army? Are we going to be in a shooting war ten minutes after she opens her mouth? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 01 Sep 09 - 09:25 PM That was a big mistake on Palin's part, running for office with no money for backup. It's interesting, when one looks into it, how other candidates just happened to stumble across money before making the leap into big time politics. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 09 - 01:53 AM Rig, those who are meant to get the money DO get the money. Others don't. Did you really think the American public chooses who gets to be their next president??????????????? Does Dracula use Crest? Nope. They just go out and rubber stamp it after the choice is made for them...by those with the money. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 02 Sep 09 - 07:18 AM I remember when the right-wing-wakkos were all over the big bucks Hillary Clinton just happen to make in the cattle futures market just before her husband ran for governor, and Obama's book(s) suddenly became a hot commodity just before he ran for the Senate, and then there were the oil guys who financed and told George H.W. Bush just where to drill before he made some political move or another. I don't think it works if they just give a candidate the money--besides there would be tax problems. They laughingly make it look like the candidate earned it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Sep 09 - 07:21 AM Post 666... |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: SINSULL Date: 02 Sep 09 - 08:10 AM I wonder how the CLSA Investors Forum members feel about the choice of speakers. Palin seems pretty lightweight compared to Greenspan, Gore and Clinton. They certainly can't expect an in depth look at the economy. This will be interesting. Wonder why the press was barred? From their website: CLSA Investor Forums CLSA Investor Forums have become the most successful events of their kind. First held in 1994, CLSA now runs seven major Forums in Asia and the US, which attract more than 5,000 institutional investors, corporations and speakers annually. Global leaders and industry specialists use CLSA Investor Forums as a platform to examine the economic, political, environmental, technological and financial trends impacting global markets. In the past, keynote speakers have included Bill Clinton, Alan Greenspan, Al Gore, Henry Kissinger, Lee Kuan Yew and Archbishop Desmond Tutu, to name a few. CLSA Investor Forums also offer high-level corporate access. Each year, more than 1,600 CEOs and CFOs from 750 corporations present to and meet with CLSA clients, while an average of 1,500 private meetings are held at each Forum, ensuring maximum one-on-one face time for companies and investors. Client login to Investor Forums website Media at CLSA Investor Forums |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: SINSULL Date: 02 Sep 09 - 08:12 AM Re the media at CLSA events: Media at Investor Forums CLSA Investor Forums are invitation-only events. They are designed to provide CLSA's global client base an opportunity to meet with Asia's leading corporations, industry specialists, heads of state and high-profile keynote speakers. CLSA Investor Forums are open to registered and accredited media. Media briefings and one-on-one interviews provide excellent access to CLSA analysts and, on occasion, specialist speakers and companies. Occasionally, keynote and specialist speaker presentations are open and promoted to the media. A designated seating area is provided for media and photographers. Please note that during these sessions media are not permitted to ask questions to the presenters during the Q&A session. At each Investor Forum there is usually a media centre equipped with printers, photocopiers, computers and internet access, where refreshments are provided throughout the day. In addition, there are separate media rooms where media briefings and interviews are conducted. We issue media invitations to register for Investor Forums one month in advance. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: CarolC Date: 02 Sep 09 - 10:06 AM How would a book becoming popular and selling well be artificially arranged by people wanting to direct money to a potential political candidate? How would they do that? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 02 Sep 09 - 10:29 AM All they would have to do is hype it. It would be the easiest thing in the world for the right people. Wouldn't take much energy at all. It would money, but not a lot of energy. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 09 - 12:31 PM It could be done, Carol. The big publishing houses and the mass media are concentrated in just a few wealthy hands, and I'm sure it is possible to effectively promote (or suppress) any particular book that some of those major players wish to promote (or suppress). If so promoted, it will sell in very large quantities. It just needs to be brought to people's attention, that's all. The same thing is done with music. Buffy Sainte-Marie's music, for example, was very effectively suppressed between about 1965 and 1975 by undercover agents of the Johnson and Nixon administrations who brought pressure on the media that play popular music, and it basically killed her career in North America at that time in the sense that she got NO airplay and consequently sold a lot less records. Certain other people got massively promoted during those same years because they weren't seen as a threat by the powers that be...and there was money to be made. Seems to me like it would be child's play for those people to successfully pump up the sales of a book...if they wanted to. All that is needed to do it is the desire to do it. The means are always there. The public buys what they hear about...in effect, they buy what they are told to buy by the authoritative voices in the media. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 02 Sep 09 - 01:11 PM Otherwise, how would Glenn Beck ever sell a book? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: CarolC Date: 02 Sep 09 - 01:46 PM LOL |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 09 - 03:29 PM Ummm...okay...who is Glenn Beck? I know I could look it up, but it's more fun to let you just tell me...and fun for you too, I'm sure. I like spreading the fun around some. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Wesley S Date: 02 Sep 09 - 03:49 PM "The same thing is done with music. Buffy Sainte-Marie's music, for example, was very effectively suppressed between about 1965 and 1975 by undercover agents of the Johnson and Nixon administrations who brought pressure on the media that play popular music, and it basically killed her career" I've never heard that story before. I'm not disputing it - just saying I've never heard it before. Did they really need undercover agents to ruin her career? She was - and is - a FOLKSINGER. "Career" and "folksinger" don't exactly go together. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: SINSULL Date: 02 Sep 09 - 03:53 PM Palin's ex-future son-in-law is having a field day letting out the family secrets. Wonder if someone will shoot him...accidentally? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Alice Date: 02 Sep 09 - 04:04 PM LH, Glenn Beck is a guy who gets on the radio and scares people about the end of the world as he knows it coming, then runs ads selling gold, and laughs all the way to the bank. He gets on his FOX tv program and cries, weeping about the end of the world as he knows it coming, and then laughs all the way to the bank. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 09 - 04:11 PM It's a very well known story by now, Wesley, for those who have followed Buffy's career closely or attended her concerts and heard her speak of it. You would find numerous writeups about it in articles written about Buffy in mainstream journalism. There were a few folk acts that were heavily blacklisted at various times...among them Buffy Sainte-Marie, The Weavers (at an earlier date than Buffy), and Eartha Kitt (who was blacklisted in the 60s because she spoke out vigorously against the Vietnam War). Buffy made far better money than you think, but she had to make it mostly in Europe and the Far East during those years of the blacklist (which only took effect in the USA and Canada). There were always a handful of famous and very gifted "folksingers" out there who had an extremely lucrative career in music, and among those were people like Buffy Sainte-Marie, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Joni Mitchell, and Leonard Cohen, for example. Just because your average folksinger makes diddly-squat does not mean that nobody makes good money singing folk music. Yes, they needed undercover agents to wreck her North American career. She was one of the artists being managed by Albert Grossman, and most people that Grossman handled did very well indeed during the 60s and 70s. Government agents were sent to every radio station in the USA and Canada to strongly suggest that they not play music by Buffy Sainte-Marie. They said that she was a "communist" (untrue) and a "subversive" (their opinion). She launched a court case in the mid-70s to secure a copy of her FBI file (and it is her constitutional right to be provided with that, if she requests it). The case took some time to resolve, and was costly, but they did eventually provide her with a copy of said file. There was nothing incriminating in it at all...merely a lot of pointless innuendo such as..."---------, a known subversive, was seen attending a Buffy Sainte-Marie concert at ----------" etc... This was a case of being under suspicion because you have written and performed a few protest songs that piss off the government. Period. It was Lyndon Johnson who lowered the boom on Buffy Sainte-Marie. He was bothered by her songs "My Country 'Tis of the People You're Dying" and "Now That the Buffalo's Gone", among others. Buffy says now that it was sort of like the government was going after a gnat with a giant sledgehammer...given that her ability to actually threaten the existing status quo in North America was virtually nil. ;-) It seems quite ridiculous in retrospect that they would have mounted such a big effort against her, but I think it demonstrates rather well the utter arrogance of the people at the top in this society. Eartha Kitt's career was also very badly damaged by those same people, but she did VERY well in Europe, as did Buffy. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Sep 09 - 08:41 PM Thanks, Alice, for the info on Glenn Beck. He sounds like quite the character. Perhaps we would all be better off if the world as Glenn Beck knows it did come to an end....if you know what I mean. ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 02 Sep 09 - 10:02 PM LH - If Glenn Beck's world came to an end, he wouldn't know it. It never really existed in the first place. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: CarolC Date: 02 Sep 09 - 10:03 PM Vintage Glenn Beck... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ebo4UhloU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7-BvVDV10&feature=channel |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 02 Sep 09 - 10:16 PM Beck is an example of why the US can't have a reasonable dialogue about anything. Maybe the worst thing about him is he doesn't really have a position on issues himself, he just takes a position that opposes the caller's position so he can garner higher ratings. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 03 Sep 09 - 10:01 PM "Word does get around, you know, Rig. :)" Yes, well maybe the most discouraging part of it was, here we have a country that is actually doing something about stamping out the scourge of religion, and our own Secretary-of-State is filmed wallowing around at the feet of a witch doctor. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 03 Sep 09 - 10:27 PM "wallowing around at the feet of a witch doctor" Has she been consulting the financial planners on Wall Street again? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: CarolC Date: 04 Sep 09 - 12:21 AM LOL |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 04 Sep 09 - 10:22 AM I was thinking of less honest witch doctors, but okay... |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Sep 09 - 10:27 AM Surely you jest? There are no less honest witch doctors than are found in the higher echelons of Wall Street. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 04 Sep 09 - 10:54 AM I submit to you, Pat Robertson and Elmer Gantry are less honest! |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Sep 09 - 11:20 AM You think? Well, I guess it all depends on your definition of honesty. I know any number of religious people who are extremely honest. That doesn't mean you would necessarily agree with them about everything, though. I bet there are witch doctors who are completely honest too...simply because they DO believe in what they are doing. Elmer Gantry was a bit different than that...an interesting case indeed! But he was rather a likeable rascal, I thought. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 04 Sep 09 - 11:35 AM When we speak of Elmer Gantry, shouldn't we be speaking of Sinclair Lewis? Gantry surely is a composite. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Sep 09 - 01:21 PM Yes, he's a fictional character. Burt Lancaster played the part with real gusto, and it was quite an entertaining film. If you want to see some absolutely chilling examples, Rig, of what extreme anti-religious and proudly atheist fanaticism can do...rent the movie "Seven Years in Tibet", watch it through, and see what the Maoists did in Tibet in the 1950s. Then watch some documentaries on Pol Pot and the Khymer Rouge who managed to kill about 1/3 of the entire domestic population in their own country in just a few years of organized insanity. They were atheist fanatics too. Fanaticism can take any conceivable viewpoint and turn it into a murderous obscenity. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Donuel Date: 04 Sep 09 - 01:32 PM Palin and her entire brood, have now become politically irrelevant. Human interest in stories like hers is just another Miss America loses her crown story. Just another Brittany Spears melt down story. What fascination remains is that these people still end up making vast sums of money. There is a vicarious thrill in watching complete asses make a fortune, it makes folks still believe that they too have a chance. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 04 Sep 09 - 01:45 PM That's a good point, Donuel, but the religious right still think she will lead them to greatness. Only the ones who have not read "Elmer Gantry," of course. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Sep 09 - 06:07 PM People who are into the "naughty librarian" look are pretty taken with her too...but NOT for religious reasons! ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 12 Sep 09 - 06:25 PM Naughty? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Sep 09 - 06:30 PM LOL! Jacky and Dunlap at their best. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 12 Sep 09 - 07:26 PM Last week we had our 4th Annual Top of the Mountain Music Mini Fest, accessed by tramway. There were 10 sets of performers for the evening and among them was a 'Bluescast', a political satire. Among the songs they had us singing was (to the tune of Alouette): Where is Sarah? Tell me, where is Sarah? Where is Sarah? Tell me where she is. Did she quit her governorjob Yes she quit her governor job Quit her job, quit her job Oooooh Where is Sarah? Tell me, where is Sarah? Where is Sarah? Tell me where she is. Is she on a speaking tour Yes, she's on a speaking tour Speaking tour, speaking tour, quit her job, quit her job Ooohh Where is Sarah? Tell me, where is Sarah? Where is Sarah? Tell me where she is. Has she got an author deal? Yes, she's got an author deal author deal, author deal, speaking tour, speaking tour, quit her job, quit her job Oooohh Where is Sarah? Tell me, where is Sarah? Where is Sarah? Tell me where she is. Will she run for president? Oh, sure, she'll run for president. President, president, speaking tour, speaking tour, author deal,author deal, quit her job, quit her job Ooooohhhhhhhhh Oh" Written by Ed Schoenfeld and Jeff Brown, Juneau, Alaska And to the tune of Mrs. Robinson: "Here's to you, Levi Johnston. There's a place for those who kiss and tell. We call it hell. What's up with you, Levi Johnston? Some say that you will go far. As a porn star. So says the Enquirerrrrrr." |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:04 PM I suppose if she does run for president, it will help her book sales and increase her speaking fees. She won't get the Republican nomination now, so I would advise her to revive Teddy Roosevelt's "Bull Moose" party and go for the gusto! |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Bobert Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:10 PM Just what we need... President Palin... Yeah, that oughtta get the 200 plus million people with IQ's on the plus side of a 100 to leave and leave the country to the roaches... And, ahhhhh, 700... Maybe... B~ |