A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 02:15 PM

Oh Clinton where's your sense of fun!!I may not be drinking green beer tonight but I did succomb to the idea of dying my hair green. If I wasn't teaching on Monday I'd keep it that way but maybe I'll do it again for folk week.
Slainte

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Hollowfox
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 02:56 PM

Jim Krause, don't worry about not being Irish, after all, St. Patrick wasn't either. And you have the privilege of being Orange without being Irish.*g* The Orange/Green conflict doesn't mean as much in my town anymore as it once did. I'm told that, many years ago, a distant uncle of mine would cut out a vest for himself from a paper grocery bag (that's how long ago this was, they were all apparently an orangish color) and go out to the bars for a little recreational brawling.
Me, what Irish in me is Orange, but I'll celebrate anything I can get away with, so it's the whole range of songs for me tonight, from traditional to pseudo-Irish stage songs, topped off with a drop of something good that I'll neither mix with food coloring nor beer. Have fun, all.

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 03:12 PM

Well, my oath is going to be broken...my bloody bank won't let me access the money that I just deposited last night....I am not happy.

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 05:08 PM

O had some green beer one time - it wasn't for St Patrick's, because that disgusting idea has never caught on the right side of the Atlantic, it was some ecological concoction the landlord had got in as an experiment that was that colour naturally.

But he couldn't sell it, so he gave free samples galore in the end. After a while it tasted quite good, nothing like beer, but OK.

But as for singing songs you don't like to people you don't like, and hating yourself for it, as Clinton lamented, what's the point of that? There's better ways of getting money, and if the music isn't fun to play surely it's no fun to listen to, and it's a kind of treachery, the kind of thing that kills it.

And as for Jim Krause, Dutch counts as Irish. Ireland is full of them - their was a Frying Dutchman ran a fast-food wagon in the carpark next to Cahir Castle for years, and very well liked. The only complaint I've got against the Dutch is that in my experience, they always seem to insist on playing Irish music, and won't play their own music so that the rest of us can share it. But maybe that's just in the Netherlands.

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 08:58 PM

Well, I'm going to church on St. Patrick's Day. We've got free corned beef & cabbage, and free beer - all I have to do is wash dishes...

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: GUEST,No
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 09:19 PM

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 09:23 PM

oops- that was me...strange computer...

Joe, is this the same 'corned beef' as Mrs. Duck and I are talking about, that comes in tins??

I don't think I've ever had corned beef in Ireland, and wouldn't consider it particularly Irish. Any information please?

Noreen

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: granny
Date: 17 Mar 01 - 11:25 PM

Shamrocks Banned in Boston? A British newspaper says Bostonians have outlawed the symbol of Irish pride – just in time for St. Patrick's Day. Is it true - or just another Urban Legend? http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa031401a.htm

--Just found this!

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 12:09 AM

I'm with Don Meixner on this one. Cheers!

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 02:02 PM

I though the harp was the symbol of Ireland, not some stupid weed done up in plastic...

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Willie-O
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 02:15 PM

Well, you're gonna play what you're gonna play, for whatever perfectly good reasons you have.

But the green beer...eeeooooouuuuuu.

That's the only colour of beer I never have any regrets about giving up. Talk about aversion therapy...

W-O

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 04:57 PM

Hey, guys, you can't TASTE the green in green beer. Close your eyes. American corned beef and Irish/Brit corned beef are two different critters. American is a Jewish delicacy that's usually brisket of beef (silversides and such) pickled in brine. The Irish Brit version (such as Fray Bentos) is not pickled to the best of my knowledge, and is sold in a can which you open with a key. Personally, I prefer a big Ulster fry or a bowwl of Champ.

Seamus

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Mar 01 - 10:27 PM

Sounds good to me, Seamus! Thanks for enlightening me.

Now... why is American/Jewish corned beef served for St Patrick's day?

Noreen
floggingadeadcowhorse

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: alison
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:18 AM

I'm with Seamus on this one..... I had a big bowl of Irish stew sitting looking at Sydney harbour bridge.... I'll make champ myself tonight.....

I had never even heard of corned beef and cabbage when I was at home... but the Americans (I was in florida one St Pats)and Aussies seem to think it's what we have....

actually the only corned beef I had at home came out of a Fray Bentos tin!!!!! *grin*

I drove 150km between gigs on St Pat's played 3 long gigs.... then another all day one on the Sunday..... entertaining passers-by at the foot of the harbour bridge.... great views....... and lots of tourists stopping for photos of this red headed irish girl in a green rugby shirt playing the whistle.... so if any of your relatives come back with this photo with the bridge or opera house in the background... its ME!!!!! hahahaha

only played Danny Boy once....WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!

and managed to get onto the national news playing "whiskey in the jar"........ great fun..... and not one drop of the vile black stuff.......

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Bert
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 12:40 AM

Ah there Mrs. D. The corned beef on this side of the pond is the same as salt beef in England.

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Troll
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 02:30 AM

The beer was no problem since I don't drink, but the songs are a different matter. Three out of four of my St. Pats gigs were in "retirement" homes and the residents love the old chestnuts. I sang Danny Boy and we all sang When Irish Eyes Are Smiling, Tooralooraloora, and My Wild Irish Rose. And then we sang 'em again.
The fourth gig was at The Shamrock, a college bar owned by an expat Irishman and HE wanted Danny Boy and The Black Velvet Band.
The crowd sang along. It was great fun.

troll

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: LR Mole
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 11:36 AM

AND "The Unicorn" was written by the late, lamented Shel Silverstein. Oy!

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 01:59 PM

I imagine because it tastes OK.

Should be boiled bacon really, to be traditional. But if it tastes good, eat it, is a tradition too, going back to famine times.

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Wotcha
Date: 19 Mar 01 - 11:25 PM

Well in Chicago, the River was green, and Mayor Daley got pride of place in his ... er ... the St Pat Day's Parade: it seems that he is president of every Irish society in town (according to the logos on the floats) ... I wonder why ... most enlightening. And the pipes (Scottish) played "Scotland the Brave" I don't think anyone picked it up.
Cheers,
Brian

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From:
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 07:11 PM

-- And I think that of St Patrick's Day, St Patrick hadn't heard. -- Ogden Nash

The story about the banning of shamrocks in (public housing in) Boston is a canard.

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 May 05 - 01:43 PM

Lanfranc mention above the use of the alternate words for Danny Boy.
I found his post as it was the only 'Hit' I got putting "Eily dear" in the SuperSearch. I had just been going through some old sheet music, and found Danny Boy, and was not aware of alternate lyrics for a man singer.
To get the alternate lyrics on-site, my next post will be a "LyricsAdd" Taken from a "New Edition copyright 1918 Boosey & Co"

Nigel

Subject: RE: A St. Patrick's Day Mudcat Oath
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 May 05 - 02:01 PM

Eily Dear lyrics posted in more suited thread

Nigel