Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 06:37 AM

The person who said staying in power is paramount to Trump is correct.
When Putin said "Elections are determined by those who count the votes, not the people who vote", Trump was listening carefully.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 07:00 AM

It was me on a number of occasions, Don. The latest being

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome - PM
Date: 17 Mar 25 - 11:58 AM

I know it is not what people want to hear but I said it very early on. This administration will be all about prearing the way to stay in power forever. It is all well and good saying it is only 2 years until the mid-terms but just you watch - The mid terms will result in a massive shift to the right wing. If not, they will be decalred null and void by king turnip and his not so merry men.

I and a number of others keep saying it but we get told that we are not helping or that we do not understand the situation.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 07:18 AM

Dave's concern is critical for Project 2025 to establish an ongoing dictatorship. One man one vote could become one man one joke.
DOGE has already hit the Federal Election Commission.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 07:34 AM

Real Estate vultures are lining up to take advantage of foreclosures of recently fired government workers in the DC area.
The MD Governor is proposing a way to give fired workers more time amid the rehiring chaos to satisfy mortgage payments.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 09:23 AM

Some of the strongest bonds in life happen when everything seems broken.
After a pandemic and now 2025 when our country is attempting to be dismantled, we have tomorrow so we march together. My deepest hope is that we bring the hope of democracy to everywhere we travel, to everything we do. We will serve as a reminder we do not walk this road alone. We're not expected to face down adversity by ourselves.

Just as the USA could not fully understand the trials of Brexit or Australian fires and floods I do not expect them to feel the damage being done to American families.

We look for the enemy but the hidden enemy is fear, fear of loss, fear of violence, and fear of the human perpetrators of chaos. Fear of undeserved punishment by a man-child and the crew that follows him is in the back of many minds. As President Delano Roosevelt said it is the fear of fear itself. That we can overcome.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 11:40 AM

OK, let's clear the air a bit. This could have gone in the Jokes thread, or under Ukraine, but here we are ....

Seen on the newsstand this morning, on the front cover of this week's Private Eye (from memory*):

Russia insists on retaining all captured territories

.... above a picture of Vlad on the phone saying "Including the White House".

* Corrections humbly invited.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 12:15 PM

I and a number of others keep saying it but we get told that we are not helping or that we do not understand the situation.

You are harping on one note and doing what a friend of mine would call "borrowing trouble." We all know this is a shit stew of a mess. You don't need to keep reminding us of it. It doesn't contribute to the conversation, it just annoys people. And much of the bickering and citations of bickering have been removed.

Someone pointed out recently that the only way to get the Project 2025 out of the White House is to get rid of Vance before getting rid of Trump; try for a more rational VP and then impeach Trump. Hey, it's a long shot, but it's looking at how the deck is stacked and how to knock down that house of cards (sorry about the mixed metaphors).

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 02:31 PM

I think you will find that most of the posts on this thread and the previous ones are just pointing out what the idiot is doing and various opinions on his bad behaviour, Stilly. I admit that I have no idea what to do about it apart from offer respite and funds. Which I have done! I do know that saying nothing us not an option.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 03:11 PM

Discussing the current status of things is not the same as your "this isn't going to end well" pronouncements. There is a difference that those of us living through the middle of it can discern.

I think a lot of this is going to hinge on the Supreme Court coming to its senses. There was a hint of that earlier this week when Roberts told Trump that impeaching judges you disagree with is not the way to proceed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 03:48 PM

Trump is having major effects on other countries.

The Australian Federal election is looming and global uncertainty is the catchphrase especially for the proposed national budget which will be revealed soon, as discussed by our very reliable political ABC (Oz) reporter, David Speers:

"The treasurer knows uncertainty is the only sure thing as budget day nears

"Geopolitics remain precarious

"Global uncertainty has only gone through the roof since the election to the White House of disrupter-in-chief Donald Trump. US allies and partners are struggling to keep up."

...

"And if two ongoing wars weren't enough, there's the uncertainty of the Trump administration's trade agenda.

"In two weeks, another round of tariffs will be announced. Australia still has no idea which exports will be hit, nor how hard they will be punished.

"Tuesday's budget will attempt to forecast the impact of these tariffs on the economy, but without the details, Treasury is largely taking a stab in the dark."

,,,

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 03:56 PM

There are also two other articles on the ABC (Oz) news site which are reporting on Trump's effects on Australia:

Australian universities losing US funding amid Donald Trump's 'America First' agenda

Australia defends Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme as US companies urge Trump to impose reciprocal tariffs

Explanation: "Under the PBS, the government negotiates prices directly with suppliers to make them cheaper for Australians."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 05:14 PM

Trump's threats to other countries show just how disruptive it is to have a spoiled angry despot in office in what was, until recently, "the most powerful nation in the world." The pleasure he gets from causing such fatal disruptions should result in a lethal injection in just about any other context. When the criminal class reaches this level, the usual responses and precautions don't seem to work.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 05:44 PM

> the usual responses and precautions don't seem to work

Hear hear, Stilly. As usual, Sir Pterry got in first, by remarking that simply having to live in slum housing was nigh-on a criminal offence in and of itself, but being a slum landlord elevated one to the highest of societies.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 06:26 PM

Here we go again ....

CISA fires, now rehires and immediately benches security crew on full pay

DOGE efficiency in action

Read the article for full gory details (and the Comments for further entertainment enlightenment), but the subhead says it all.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 06:51 PM

Now it gets more interesting ....

Trump fires Democrat FTC commissioners, presaging big tech policy shifts

Remaining Republicans don't like the right to repair, non-compete clause ban, or some social media moderation

.... What caught my eye was a couple of paragraphs near the end:

"I am a commissioner at the Federal Trade Commission. The President just illegally fired me. This is corruption plain and simple," wrote [Alvaro] Bedoya.

"The FTC is an independent agency founded 111 years ago to fight fraudsters and monopolists, our staff is unafraid of the Martin Shkrelis and Jeff Bezos of the world. They take them to court and they win. Now, the President wants the FTC to be a lap dog for his golfing buddies."

I'll leave it at that for tonight.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 07:37 PM

From Politico ‘Beyond My Wildest Dreams’: The Architect of Project 2025 Is Ready for His Victory Lap
Paul Dans, the ousted director of Project 2025, says he’s delighted that Trump is implementing his agenda after all.

I was going to quote from it, but there is so much to unpack here. So much malice toward the modern American government and population.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 25 - 08:32 PM

Excellent Dans interview. At first, I wondered who hurt him then I realized drinking all that Kool Aid at the Heritage think tank hard-wired Dans to create the Ultimate Mien Kampf Manifesto. A Think Tank can become an incredible evil cult.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 11:33 AM

> A Think Tank can become an incredible evil cult.

*Agree*, Donuel: think tank as cess pit.

Meanwhile, in a country far, far away:

Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options, says Dutch parliament

Trump administration 'has made the call for tech sovereignty an urgent geopolitical issue'

Not content to wait for open letters to influence the European Commission, Dutch parliamentarians have taken matters into their own hands by passing eight motions urging the government to ditch US-made tech for homegrown alternatives.

The motions were submitted and all passed yesterday during a discussion in the Netherlands' House of Representatives on concerns about government data being shipped overseas. While varied, they all center on the theme of calling on the government to replace software and hardware made by US tech companies, acquire new contracts with Dutch companies who offer similar services, and generally safeguard the country's digital sovereignty.

"With each IT service our government moves to American tech giants, we become dumber and weaker," Dutch MP Barbara Kathmann, author of four of the motions, told The Register. "If we continue outsourcing all of our digital infrastructure to billionaires that would rather escape Earth by building space rockets, there will be no Dutch expertise left."

[ ... ]

Outsourcing is an organisation-level optimisation, and ....

Premature optimization is the root of all evil.
                -- D. E. Knuth

I further contend that the Great Knuth was being excessively optimistic: in the long term, *every* optimisation is premature, and will become a pessimisation encrusted in duct tape. Were it not so, buggy-whip makers would still be in business.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 06:28 PM

Trump sez; "America is a fat dumb country". "Government workers are scum".
I'D SAY speak for yourself, and apparently he has.

Having a well versed expert in the high tech field is a great resource for Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 07:28 PM

This is the end of month two with 46 to go. The aid from the agriculture dept has already stopped, rendering the DC foodbank with only one palette of food.

If there are food riots will Trump use deadly force to put them down?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 07:44 PM

Protests at all of the food banks around the nation ought to get someone's attention. (Hoping not riots, those would give him an excuse to shoot people, and he probably wouldn't have the military "shoot them in the legs.")

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 08:26 PM

Trump signs order aimed at dismantling the US Department of Education

"In short: US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order calling for the shutdown of the Education Department.

"The order would leave school policy almost entirely in the hands of states and local boards.
What's next?

"Democrats said the order will be fought in the courts and in Congress."


As an ex-teacher I am appalled. How low can this monster go?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 10:09 PM

Trump has hurt one of America’s most lucrative industries (originally published in The Telegraph, UK)
Donald Trump has inflicted enormous long-term damage on America’s defence export industry ...

... First in line for collective repudiation is Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fighter jet. Mark Carney ordered a review of Canada’s order for 72 of these advanced aircraft within hours of becoming prime minister. It will determine whether “other options could better meet Canada’s needs”. ...

... PNuno Melo, Portugal’s conservative defence minister, says the F-35 is no longer considered a safe choice to replace his country’s ageing F-16s. “We have to know that an ally will be on our side whatever the circumstances,” he told Publico.

“The world has changed. This ally of ours, so predictable over the decades, could limit the use, maintenance, components, and everything needed to ensure that the aircraft are operational in all scenarios,” he said. Portugal is looking at a European alternative. Germany may be next ...


... Europe does not strictly need the US Patriot missile defence system either. The upgraded Franco-Italian SAMP/T rival is more or less “equivalent” ...

... Europe should also move fast to escape the clutches of Elon Musk’s Starlink. Enders said Eutelsat’s OneWeb could do much of the job if buttressed by the medium-orbit satellites of SES ...

... There have always been restrictions on how US weapons exports can be deployed, but the rules were clear. Trump has turned every form of vulnerability into a means of extortion.

He has shown that he will not hesitate to cut rough with military kit to get his way – in Ukraine’s case to force capitulation on Kremlin terms – or “dividing up certain assets” as he put it.

Those terms will probably be close to the Istanbul Protocol: neutrality, a skeleton military like Germany in the 1920s, Russian control over four annexed (but unconquered) oblasts, cultural re-Russification of Ukraine, plus a Vidkun Quisling-like figure to replace Volodymyr Zelensky ...

... Two of the irresistible selling points of US arms exporters have long been that a) the dependency would not be abused and b) countries were implicitly coming under the US security umbrella by aligning their fortunes with America.

Neither has currency in Trump’s Hobbesian world. (The end, but there is a link to 202 comments on the page)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 10:27 PM

An F-35 aircraft costs about $100 million.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Mar 25 - 11:53 PM

Lockheed Martin’s F-35 fighter jets are built in Fort Worth, Texas. Let's see how fast Senators Cruz and Cornyn start trying to get those plane orders back into the queue while idiot governor Abbott points fingers at Washington. This is their GOP, they have stood back and watched the Trump chaos, but if it hits home they might decide to act? It's going to take a lot of states taking this kind of hit to get all of those senators to budge off of their hands.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 12:29 AM

As another example of Trump's strategies going pear-shaped through strengthening alliances elsewhere, I thought I had posted a link to an article on ABC (Oz) News about Australia selling some military tech to Canada instead of the US but I must have been side-tracked. The whole article is worth reading.

Australia's 'biggest defence export' was meant to go to the US first, but Canada snuck past Donald Trump

...

"With the United States continuing its campaign of tariffs on foreign nations, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said it was good for Australia to "diversify" its trade relationships.

"'[Mark Carney] certainly spoke to me about the over-the-horizon radar technology that Canada is interested in purchasing from Australia, it's important that we diversify our trade relationships,' Mr Albanese said.

"'It's important that we develop that diverse series of relationships and Canada is a very important one, we have so much in common.'"

...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 06:05 AM

More than half of all Tesla cars built globally are manufactured in Shanghai, with about a third of its volume destined for export. And according to the company's quarterly investor deck, Shanghai can build more than 950,000 units of the Model 3 and Model Y combined, or a monthly volume of roughly 80,000 vehicles.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 08:38 AM

Tourism affected too I guess

Germany and Britain issue warnings about traveling to America

So, come on, let's have a bit of positivity :-)

What is happening to rein him in at the moment?

What do you think will trip him up in the next few weeks?

What will be his ultimate downfall?

Don't need to be too specific as I probably would not understand US politics too well. Just some hope that things are happening now and will continue to happen to get back from 1984!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 08:43 AM

Just seen on FarceBook - “The Gulf of America is the space between Trump’s ears”.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 10:50 AM

.... Variant on that, from Way Back: If nature abhors a vacuum, what keeps the Alleged Leader's ears apart? perhaps a wad of top-secret bog paper?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 11:05 AM

Dave, there was a long open letter from Rick Steves, a famous American travel writer and guide (and liberal proponent of many things, so this is no surprise).

This bit from the middle of the piece:

With all of this taken into consideration, if you feel strongly that, in good conscience, you can't continue to do business with a company that's based in the United States, we regretfully but respectfully accept that decision. Godspeed, keep on travelin’... and we hope our paths cross again when things get better.

But if you're looking for a reason to continue doing business with Rick Steves' Europe, let me offer this reassurance: While we, like you, are doing everything we can to push back against the dangerous and reckless actions of the US president, we also remain fully committed to our mission of teaching good travel, fostering people-to-people connections, and striving to create better citizens of the world... one trip at a time. If that's the version of "American values" that you support, we'd love for you to join us — and I believe you’ll find that the vast majority of your fellow tour members, regardless of nationality, share your values.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 08:27 AM

--- Ah! *this* is what I was going to add before I got distracted. This chap sounds like the perfect recruit for D*GE:

Dept of Defense engineer took home top-secret docs, booked a fishing trip to Mexico – then the FBI showed up

So much for that vacation

A US Department of Defense electrical engineer has turned his world upside down after printing 155 pages from 20 documents, all of which were marked top secret and classified, from his DoD workspace, brought them home with him – and was collared on his way to Mexico.

Gokhan Gun, 51, of Falls Church, Virginia, a dual citizen of the US and Turkey, pleaded guilty in federal court Thursday to unauthorized removal and retention of classified material. Now jobless, he is scheduled to be sentenced on June 17 and faces up to five years in the clink.

As a civilian employee for the DoD, Gun had been granted a top-secret security clearance with access to sensitive compartmented information (SCI). And as such, he had been trained on how to handle and store classified information, and was aware that secret and top-secret documents must "be stored in a [government-approved] security container" or a vault or storage area built to federal standards.

[ ... ]

Read in full; it's delightful (documents shouting TOP SECRET put in full view in a translucent backpack, for example). I won't spoil the punchline.

Subject: RE: WHO KILLED AMERICA ?
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 12:22 PM

We all suffer the slings and arrows of adversity and we all persevere.

But whoever killed America needed a motive and opportunity.
Rich people steal more money than anyone else so money is a motive.
Donald John Trump just happens to have the opportunity but has borrowed most of the strategies from others. He also believes he has a reason for great retribution. Missing 1/16th of an inch of his right ear has much to do with it. But I do not know that he is the real killer. So who is the real killer? Or I should say who ARE the real killers...
Was it suicide, accident, or murder? Well, it sure ain't an accident.
It looks like murder with a bit of suicide by the apathy of citizens.
A great detective is required. That great detective is all of us who have witnessed some small part of the murder. Together, the killers will be found.

Just like there was a primary suspect in the purchase of Clarence Thomas there are primary suspects in the murder of America.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 12:33 PM

Our planned trip to NYC this year has been called off, we’ll holiday in the (comparatively) civilised UK. Neither Mrs Backwoodsperson nor I have any interest in spending money to pass a week in a Latter-day Gilead, so the trip is on the back-burner for four years. I just hope I’m still around.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 01:14 PM

They may not let you in BWM. I was hoping to visit relatives in Florida this year but we have decided to meet somewhere instead.

Border Patrol Checking US Visitors' Phones

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 01:20 PM

...and thanks, Stilly. Good letter from a travel and tour point of view. Anything else that gives us hope will be much appreciated.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 03:55 PM

I don't know whether this belongs in the Jokes thread ....

NASA's inbox goes orbital after email mishap spams entire space industry

A lone voice cries out from reply-all chaos: 'Someone tell DOGE to rehire whoever maintains this email list'

Everybody loves a good email storm. But an insecure email distribution list accidental spamming space agencies across the planet is undoubtedly one for the record books.

[ ... ]

"The funny part was someone saying, 'Someone tell DOGE to rehire whoever maintains this email list.' Followed by other people saying stuff like, 'Just forward the entire email chain to DOGE.'"

[ ... ]

Reply-all storms are very nearly as good at taking down an entire campus network as Doom Classic. Doing this on a world-girding mailing list is the stuff of heroes.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 06:51 PM

If I were in the right district or State and Stilly or the Filk was running for Congress I would vote for them.
Think about it, wouldn't you?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Mar 25 - 06:58 PM

I worked for a medium size Federal agency & decades ago someone in Head Office with access to ALL STAFF lists told all staff across Australia about parking opportunities in Head Office ... oops. I was a Very Little Wig & the only lists I has access to had around 20 people in them.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 01:56 AM

What a surprise! And look at his smug little Trump-baby face in the first photo.

Donald Trump revokes security clearances for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton and others

"in short: Donald Trump has revoked several former White House officials' access to US classified documents.

"Democrats Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton were among the individuals stripped of their security clearances.

"A presidential memorandum said it was "no longer in the national interest" for those listed to retain their accesses."

...

[Ironically...]

"Mr Trump was himself investigated for breaching security rules between his first and second term in office by storing classified White House documents in his Mar-a-Lago resort.

"The investigation was wound up after Mr Trump returned to office."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 03:32 AM

I haven't looked, Helen: I simply can't bear to look at that ugly mug. The only worse thing than him glowering is him smirking. Has the White House been fitted with specially-reinforced mirrors? I can hear it now ....

Mirror, mirror on the wall,
Who is the smartest one of all?

(*shatter*)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 03:43 AM

Yes, but MaJoC don't forget he is a very stable genius. :-D

It's worth looking at the photo because it is reminiscent of the Trump baby cartoons, and the stable genius cartoons, and all those other cartoons and jokes and comedy routines. For comedians and cartoonists, he is ripe for the picking.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 03:48 AM

We keep hearing about the bad things he is doing and it is right that these should be called out and highlighted but how about some good news for a change. Surely there must be some wins - even little ones! Mention has been made of the courts overruling the executive orders and the actions of Musk's motley crew. How does that work? Is it working? If either the turnip or (f)Elon carry on after a court rules that what they are doing is illegal, can they be held in contempt of court? Is there anything going on in the Senate or Congress that is going to curb the recent excesses?

Reporting on anything that gives us hope for the future rather than just how bad things are getting would be a welcome change:-)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 08:22 AM

Hope sellers like crooked preachers are hawking their wares.
If you go shopping for hope someone will sell you some.
Hope should be in the heart of the beholder, actions create results.
In the meantime, anything broken takes far more time to fix or replace.
Some things can not be fixed. Ancient ruins and junkyards can testify to that.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 09:30 AM

Domestic terrorism, doxing, and swatting are the tools of the right and should not be used by democracy advocates. Burning Teslas or gun violence is evil. I know a mudcatter who actually enjoyed doxing and was misguided. They have since smartened up.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 10:57 AM

Apologies, Helen, but "stable genius" always makes me think that a stable is where the Runt-in-Chief belongs. (Was he using that top-secret bog paper as bedding?) What I was attempting to convey was that any self-respecting mirror would spontaneously shatter in shame, but I was rushed.

And as it happens, Donuel, there's a full-length article in this week's New European, warning of the addictive properties of Copium: a pernicious substance which causes its addicts to sit back and wait, looking for signs and portents that the Horrible Thing will explode/implode all on its own.

.... I'll leave it there for now, and seek solace in the Jokes thread.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 12:53 PM

I don't think that there any crooked preachers on here, Don. There are a couple of Charlatans but I ignore their cod philosophy. I wouldn't have asked otherwise. Hopefully (pun intended) I will get (mainly) honest answers on here.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Helen
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 02:05 PM

Well. MaJoC, this is exactly what I was thinking and found a cartoon to match when I did an image search using the search terms

donald trump stable genius cartoon

stable genius

There was also a mirror mirror cartoon but the mirror hasn't shattered.

(Is "shatter" the past tense of "shitter"?)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 05:25 PM

Apathesium and Copium create a highly addictive form of Hopium.

Some of us ordinary people will have to get on the ballot if change is desired.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47th President/ Musk Coup
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 25 - 05:30 PM

It only seems hopeless to face an opponent who is given 163 million dollars to run against you which is why we have to flood the zone with candidates.