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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Musket Date: 02 Apr 14 - 10:28 AM Don't wave it about, you'll get begging letters |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Musket Date: 02 Apr 14 - 10:40 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Noreen at work Date: 02 Apr 14 - 10:54 AM I find this thread - or more specifically some of the responses- deeply depressing. Unfortunately the nastiness does NOT stay below the line. I open very few BS threads, and certainly not the obvious politics/ creationism etc. titles, but the nasty posts leak out. If it was up to me I wouldn't have any of those "rough and tumble" threads here at all- why should we, it's a Music site! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Apr 14 - 11:26 AM Oh please don't be so thick a prick is still a prick A jerk is still a jerk No matter what you decry being rude is rude no matter why Don't blame it on the other guy Childishness is never wry As time goes buy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 11:52 AM No need to answer, but I wonder what you're finding so deeply depressing about the thread so far. It was started by a mod, it has a rude word in the title (which might have warned the easily-offended not to open it), it contains some banter but also some honest comment. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 11:56 AM Don't wave it about, you'll get begging letters Cheers for the compliment! There was a young woman from Exeter So lovely that men craned their necks at 'er One was even so brave As to take out and wave The distinguishing mark of his sex at 'er (Exeter's only a short trip on the X9 bus...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Dave the Gnome Date: 02 Apr 14 - 12:06 PM Exeter's only a short trip on the X9 bus Doesn't that depend where you start from? Noreen - Lighten up. There are music VENUES, never mind web sites, with more nastiness than here. Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Apr 14 - 01:06 PM Oh, two thanks Steve - one for the limerick which I must remember for the next time I do the limericks song. Anent offensiveness, I have a T-shirt that some find offensive. Black T-shirt, large white letters saying "S&M". But when you look more closely it says "Sausage & Mash". By and large I do not find the moderation here prissy - save on the subject of that which we are not allowed to mention. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 01:27 PM The X9 only goes from Bude to Exeter! Well, and t'other way, of course. The moderation here is a complete puzzle to me. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Were I a tad more uncharitable than I am, going from their erratic recent behaviour I could conclude that some of the moderators prefer the homophobes, misogynists, religious bigots, creationists, evolution-deniers, racists, misrepresenters and liars to the few of us who call out the homophobes, misogynists, religious bigots, creationists, evolution-deniers, racists, misrepresenters and liars and tell them what gits they are. I scratch my head as I ask meself which one of those two categories of people really drags down the tone of the place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Apr 14 - 01:35 PM Don't need to PM- just count multiple responses to your thread. (Richard, where can I get one of those T-shirts? Prefer colors reversed, though) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: MGM·Lion Date: 02 Apr 14 - 01:45 PM Richard ~~ Re yours of 0637, which I take addressed to me, as it fairly closely follows my "OLP [Official Legendary Pedant]" post(& can one, I ask, be a legendary pedant and a real one at the same time? Are not the adjectives mutually exclusive?), "A REAL pedant would have made use of the alternative structure for clarification purposes." -- Alternative structure to what? Alternative to what structure? Clarification of what? Interested in your use of word 'structure'. When there was this thing that Saussure, Lacan, Derrida, Althusser, Foucault, Luce Irigaray & all them pseuds were pursuing snark-like thru the ringing groves and gardens and forests of Eng Lit back in the 50s-80s, called structuralism, post-structuralism, antedisepoststruc... [cont p 94], I used always to try & read all about it, but would always come away with the conviction that their purpose was to supply answers to questions that nobody had asked, and nobody in right mind would ever even think of asking... So is your comment, which tho not explicitly interrogative gives rise to interrogative response, to be subsumed in this category? & if not, why not? ANSWER! ANSWER! ~M~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Musket Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:05 PM I keep saying it and I'll say it again. Cooking sherry.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:10 PM It seems as if this Obstreperous Prick Club is actually quite elite and exclusive. I'd like to become a member please, but maybe I'm not entitled as I haven't been posting for years and years like some of you. Perhaps I could start at the lower level and become a Sanctimonious Opinionated Self-Satisfied Asshole (Arsehole for the Brits) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: MGM·Lion Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:19 PM Fascinating, Musket. What are you cooking it with? Or do you mean you keep saying "Rershy. Herrys. Yrhser"? Well whatever stirs your decanter... Or supplies your stewpot... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Musket Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:28 PM The secret of a good stewpot is to give it the occasional stir. The decanter has a rather good late port in it. Never meant to be that way. The decanter is supposed to be an ornament but the cork split whilst opening the bottle. You see, you should always be normal (pour from the bottle) but if something breaks (cork, decency) you should have an ornament to hand that is suitable (decanter, f'ing and blinding). Or some such bollocks. Sorry. Rather pissed off. Still at Kings Cross. Supposed to be supporting my local folk club 150 miles North tonight. Looks like nicking Michael's cooking sherry and watching the recorded MasterChef instead. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Bill D Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:33 PM Oh my... Stu offered an essay by Stephen Fry to illustrate a point I have made several times here myself... that there is a "cultural difference" between Brits & Americans in matters of "robust debate". Fry says early on... "We must begin with a few round truths about myself: when I get into a debate I can get very, very hot under the collar, very impassioned, and I dare say, very maddening, for once the light of battle is in my eye I find it almost impossible to let go and calm down. I like to think I'm never vituperative or too ad hominem but I do know that I fall on ideas as hungry wolves fall on strayed lambs and the result isn't always pretty. This is especially dangerous in America." He then goes on to describe a debate about 'climate change' with an American who, he explains, had a certain vested interest in being a denier. THEN he takes the fact that this denier reacted poorly to having his position being dissected and critiqued as a basic generalization about cultural differences. During the explication, Fry lays out his points in a careful schema, describing in clear detail the relevance of each one and very coherently showing what the debate means and the reasonable ways to approach it. BRAVO! Fry did a fine job of showing why 'Jim', the American, had a flawed & dangerous position...........however.... I thought the point of the essay was to describe those awkward "cultural differences"! All Fry did was to describe ONE sorry example of an American who was too financially committed to his own position to see ANY alternative views! In his opening, Fry suggests that his own 'technique' (read: standard habit) is to " fall on ideas as hungry wolves fall on strayed lambs ". May we assume that this is how he conducted the exchange with the (admittedly dense) American? If so, all *I* see is one "Obstreperous Prick" who happens to be 'right' using the worst possible approach to combating another one! Where is it written that openly describing and admitting one's disposition: getting "...very, very hot under the collar, very impassioned, and I dare say, very maddening..." can function as excusing one's disposition? Fry seems to indicated that 'Jim' did not appreciate being taken to task for his weak position....Fry says: " I too was upset and angry at his dismissive, illogical, contemptuous tone.". Very little is said about HOW 'Jim' expressed his "dismissive, illogical, contemptuous tone." We can only assume he refused to 'play the game' that Fry introduced and would not 'reply in kind' with his own hot, impassioned rejoinders. Gee... I can't imagine why not! Fry says at the end.."Fierce overheated evenings are needed at evening meals all over the world."...well, perhaps so... but why OVERheated? Why not just heated? Passion for one's position should BE expressed... but if one enters the discussion convinced that has the infallible, righteous view-- and the opponent does also-- how is progress possible? Just "having the debate" and throwing opposing position AT each other almost never accomplishes any compromise or fosters even an understanding OF the other's position. In the case of 'Jim', I can barely imagine a reasoned explication such as Fry made (whether calm or heated) making any inroads ... and, people being people, being yelled usually produces the opposite reaction. I dunno... perhaps in Britain, just engaging and practicing the invective IS an end in itself, and no one 'really' expects to 'win' (i.e. convince the opponent).... therefore let's just hone OUR points as loudly as possible and achieve some introspective satisfaction that we "did not suffer fools" and impressed the audience with our cleverness. Gee... I wonder what it would be like to have THIS discussion with Stephen Fry.... I shudder to think.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:35 PM redmolotov.com https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Sausage+%26+Mash+T-shirt&espv=210&es_sm=122&tbm=isch&imgil=76BjvV41SkGZaM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcSMiVbHaZUbzw93OjjtsyAzQIVHpczuJQ0jTLOnjsRPjckyCi6WhQ%253B460%253B460%253B78ttk-aLtGTRtM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.redmolotov.com%25252Fcatalogue%25252Ftshirts%25252Fall%25252Fs-and-m-tshirt.html&source=iu&usg=__govsDHhH9ZLHtSBJpr9pmTz4a8Y%3D&sa=X&ei=Qlg8U4jtOJCp7AaOoIGAAw&ved=0CDUQ9QEwAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=76BjvV41SkGZaM%253A%3B78ttk-aLtGTRtM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.redmolotov.com%252Fimages%252Fdesigns%252Fs-and-m-tshirt_design.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.redmolotov.com%252Fcatalogue%252Ftshirts%252Fall%252Fs-and-m-tshirt.html%3B460%3B460 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Jeri Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:36 PM I find it oddly appropriate that this thread points to a symbolic proof of evolution. A mutant form of Mudcatter, known as 'obstreperous prick', by its nature, poisons the environment. This results in other, less hardy forms of Mudcatter seeking refuge in other environments and so gradually becoming extinct here. Or in other words, when enough people piss in the pool, the only people left will be those who like to swim in piss. Not a whole lot different than the theory that eventually cockroaches will be the only living thing on Earth, although roaches won't have caused the environmental toxicity... but the roaches aren't intellectually advanced enough to care, either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:38 PM http://www.redmolotov.com/catalogue/tshirts/all/s-and-m-tshirt.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Apr 14 - 02:51 PM Those who poison the environment are as follows: "religious bigots, creationists, evolution-deniers, atheist-demonisers, thread-starting tarts, serial misrepresenters, far-right backwoodsmen, homophobes, misogynists, liars, racists, apologists for countries who deal in repression of minority ethnic groups and defenders of child-abusing anti-education perpetrated by organised religion". And of course those of whom we do not speak. MtheGM - you posted "Of course we can't." But my question was "Can we nominate ourselves, *OR* do we have to have a proposer and seconder?" Emphasis now added. But there is an unexcluded middle. Capisce? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Dave the Gnome Date: 02 Apr 14 - 03:12 PM Nah, sorry Jeri. I don't buy it. 'Poisons the environment' is in the eye of the beholder. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Nazis thought that Jews poisoned the environment. Some of the settlers in your fair land thought that the natives poisoned the environment. The rich and powerful have always thought that the poor poison the environment. I have been in some embittered feuds here but I do not believe I have poisoned anything. Others, including yourself maybe, may believe otherwise. We have only our own conscience to guide us. Mine, for one, is clear. To quote a line from someone or another 'Judge not lest ye be judged.' Cheers DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Musket Date: 02 Apr 14 - 03:25 PM Oy Bridge! You forgot to mention dirty rotten stinking capitalists and armchair socialists! Disturbingly, I too have bought T Shirts from Red Molotov. My favourite, which I love to wear at folk clubs in line with my past, is Full Donkey Jacket. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Dave the Gnome Date: 02 Apr 14 - 04:08 PM Not sure if it was from the same place but one of my own favourite T-shirts reads "Salford - Like Paris without the tower". DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Gurney Date: 02 Apr 14 - 04:46 PM I have also wondered why some people get so insulted here. I've been more insulted by waiters, when I tried to get a meal wearing jeans or a tieless shirt, than anyone here has managed. It must be frustration, not being able to bop the sods. But a good many people are too dangerous to hit anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 04:52 PM Thanks, Richard. You beat me to it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 04:54 PM My favourite t-shirt, which I have not yet got, says "either you like bacon or you're wrong". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: MGM·Lion Date: 02 Apr 14 - 04:57 PM Way-hay, me ole Sunnivagun. You could nick every drop of cooking sherry that has ever graced any kitchen of mine, and nary a drappie down your gullet to pour wad ye win...! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Bill D Date: 02 Apr 14 - 05:31 PM Why DO I bother...? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Noreen Date: 02 Apr 14 - 06:00 PM Steve Shaw, thanks for asking. As I said, it is the responses I find depressing, not the OP. I enjoyed Mick's post and side with him in it. I know he wouldn't have posted that unless strongly moved by what is going on here. Almost immediately the attacks on Mick and his ideas started. It doesn't feel like banter to me, and why does 'honest comment' have to be so unpleasant? It is possible to accept that others have opposing views to your own, while respecting their right to express them. I love an intelligent debate, but I strongly object to the unkindness and abuse which others here obviously take to be 'banter and honest comment'. And no, DtG, I will not 'Lighten up'. I feel a great affection for this place, the people who started it and the lovely people I have met through it, both online and in real life. I will not just roll over and accept that the bullies can take it over and make it into something nasty, as Jeri succinctly described. I have no doubt that worse nastiness exists in the world, but I don't choose to spend my limited free time wallowing in it. If I was in a music venue / pub / any social gathering where someone came out with the sort of comments which appear even above the line here these days, I would find a more pleasant place to spend my time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Gibb Sahib Date: 02 Apr 14 - 06:20 PM Stephen Fry is an ass. He did a TV program that was supposed to be him touring the USA to present the country, land, and people to Britain. All he did was complain that people smiled too much, they were too nice, they wanted to have fun, that the weather was too nice (or intense), etc. He hid indoors writing in a notebook while others did things. While people danced, he hid in a corner. Then he spent an entire episode running around on a scavenger hunt with male strippers in Las Vegas. Sure, one can find humor in his presentation of himself as what HE believes to be a stereotypical 'Brit'. He's self-deprecatory - he acknowledges that his dislike of happy, healthy people, activities, and environments is pathological. But so what? Aside from saying "Haha, he's such a 'typical Brit', I'm just like that" or whatever, what can you take away from it? He just did a crap job in presenting USA. And all the while he reinforced a stereotype about Britons and found a way to excuse poor personality traits…by making as if they make him more "British" and as if that was inherently a good thing. Additionally, his interpretation of "American" is ANGLO-American. If he meets anyone of another ethnicity/nationality, he poops his trousers and runs off - they are the wrong kind of American, evidently, for his scheme of "cultural differences." I swear. Just as there is Orientalism there is this Across-the-Pond-ism that is just as irritating. Fuck Stephen Fry. I'm American and across *my* "pond" is Hong Kong. Across the "pond" on my nation's other side is Accra. Just because I speak a variety of English, it doesn't create any reason to create these comparisons between what I do / think / say and a British person. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 06:22 PM Well, Noreen, just look back at some of the comments over many threads coming from the homophobes, misogynists, religious bigots, creationists, evolution-deniers, racists, misrepresenters and liars. I don't mind naming names, so the Jacks, the petes, the Keiths, the bobads, the Akes, the Guffers and one or two others who I may have forgotten. Oh yes, they can sound very pleasant. Very disarming at times. Very reasonable, on the surface. But what you seem to be saying is that you can say what you like as long as you don't say it "unpleasantly". Well I don't agree with that. These people who are being given free rein to spout their unbalanced, illiberal and prejudiced notions are the people who really drag this place down. Just a few of us are not able to tolerate that and we speak out and we don't feel like being especially diplomatic towards people who are taking advantage of your good nature. We see Bill, Gawd bless 'im, being very diplomatic towards pete and pete taking the piss in return, for example. There are times when calling a spade a spade is a bloody good thing. If it's an intelligent debate you want (so do I), you won't get it by giving these nasty people all the rope in the world. You need to consider slightly more carefully exactly what it is you're asking for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Dave the Gnome Date: 02 Apr 14 - 06:25 PM but I don't choose to spend my limited free time wallowing in it. Well, sorry Noreen, but isn't that exactly what you are doing here? I do not believe for one minute that Micks actions will do anything to stop any nastiness and I have told him so. In fact, I think it could make matters a lot worse but I will be more than happy if I am proved wrong. Highly unlikely though and I would far more strongly support banning or timeouts if required. I feel we know each other well enough to be frank and I think you, and others, are making Alps out of ant hills. The music section is still a generally peaceful place. The BS can be rocky but in the main it is inoffensive. It is a small minority of posts and contributors that are beyond the pale and, as has been pointed out, this has always happened. Just my two pen'urth. Dave. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Ed T Date: 02 Apr 14 - 07:34 PM ""Never feed your cat anything that clashes with the carpet"" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Bill D Date: 02 Apr 14 - 08:06 PM Thank you Gibb Sahib... that explains a lot. ----------------------------------- "There are times when calling a spade a spade is a bloody good thing." Oh, no doubt. *sitting on my hands, lest I do* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: gnu Date: 02 Apr 14 - 08:23 PM Hmmm... what happened to the intention of the OP and subsequent good natured banter which ensued and... oh... yeah... never mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 08:34 PM Hmmm... what happened to the intention of the OP and subsequent good natured banter which ensued and... oh... yeah... never mind. Nothing happened. You just didn't get it, that's all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Steve Shaw Date: 02 Apr 14 - 08:40 PM Oh, no doubt. *sitting on my hands, lest I do* Ooh, threats! Great! let's have it then. Preferably without all the quotes, the asterisks and the capitals (as if we don't understand plain English: you understand mine all right, don't you?) From the hip, Bill! We don't mind! Much better that way. You never know, a bit more directness from you might just have helped to give our resident fundamentalist the sidelining he richly deserves! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Big Al Whittle Date: 02 Apr 14 - 08:42 PM the thing is, do you only want to talk to people who agree with you. if you all agree with each other about everything. there's not much to discuss |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Janie Date: 02 Apr 14 - 09:06 PM Objectively, I second Michaelr. Entropy. Makes me sad, but I accept the reality. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Big Mick Date: 02 Apr 14 - 09:34 PM I guess I should pop in here. The thread was not started as an April fools joke, nor was it started to be a definitive statement as to why people leave Mudcat. Steve Shaw gave you a great example of how you can create perfect solutions when you control the predicate. Predictably some of you immediately jumped on the old "yanks are just simple and just don't get the subtleties of English language and humor" line. I reject all of that. Jack, with his poem, captured it nicely. Nasty, obstreperous people are just that. It has nothing to do with cultural differences. There is a small group focused on specific people instead of issues, as well as other things. They are dismissive, arrogant and rude. This was started for no other reason than to point that out. As to rough and tumble debate being stifled, you can stuff that. There is a difference between no holds barred, intense debate about an issue and attacking someone personally because you don't approve of them. I have long held that the BS debates are critical to a folk and blues forum. I remember when there was a move afoot to ban controversial, mostly political threads. I fought it then and will always oppose such moves. Folk music springs from the issues of the times. As long as the intense debate stays focused and doesn't stray off into the personal I don't have a problem with it. Attack ideas, not people. So don't make too much of this, it's just me pointing out that we have some people around here who delight in being asshats, or whose smug arrogance leaves a nasty odor. I suppose that could be said of all of us at one time or another but there are a half dozen or so who take it to a new level. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Janie Date: 02 Apr 14 - 10:03 PM now, now, Mick. Stop making sense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: GUEST,Musket Date: 03 Apr 14 - 01:27 AM Jack wrote a poem? Hang on |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Musket Date: 03 Apr 14 - 03:23 AM That didn't turn out how I wanted, sorry. There again, neither did this football season. Years since I played with HTML. Must leave it to those clever enough to play with it properly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: akenaton Date: 03 Apr 14 - 03:53 AM The gang of four strike again!! See? One sniff of danger, any chance of being exposed for what they are.....they attack. They want this section closed, end of story. There are far too many open minded people here, who want to discuss complicated and some times controversial subjects in a serious manner. You can read about their ilk in 1984 by George Orwell. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Dave the Gnome Date: 03 Apr 14 - 05:23 AM What "gang of four"? What attacks? The only personal attack of any significance has been on Stephen Fry. And I am sure he is not bothered. Who want's the BS section closed? Why make veiled allegations instead of speaking plainly? DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Big Al Whittle Date: 03 Apr 14 - 06:07 AM Yes Dave a rare moment of agreement with ya. Stop pussyfooting around. Say who the people are who have pissed you off. Get apologies, and move on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Ed T Date: 03 Apr 14 - 06:21 AM "the thing is, do you only want to talk to people who agree with you. if you all agree with each other about everything. there's not much to discuss" An appropriate observation of some thread titles and individuals and small groups of like minded folks, who oddly seem more focused on reinforcing a view they hold, and limiting alternative views, versus particilating in a meaningful and potentially insightful discussion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: gnu Date: 03 Apr 14 - 06:36 AM I went down down down into that burning ring of ire... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 03 Apr 14 - 06:59 AM It is not about disagreement. That is the nature of discussion and debate. It is the nasty, personal stuff that has become accepted. This morning already I have been called "a trolling little turd" (Jim Carrol) and "fuckwit" (Greg F). Yesterday "a soft cunt" (Musket) Why not just challenge what is said? Name calling requires less actual thought I suppose. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club From: Mooh Date: 03 Apr 14 - 07:09 AM You know that guy who stands off to the side, hands in pockets, mouth silent but agape, watching and wondering, unable to look away but unable to participate? That's me. I hope there's something left for me when you guys are done thinning the herd. ;-) Peace, Mooh. |