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BS: Census day

Backwoodsman 23 Mar 21 - 12:41 PM
Dave the Gnome 23 Mar 21 - 12:57 PM
DMcG 23 Mar 21 - 01:50 PM
Bonzo3legs 23 Mar 21 - 02:05 PM
Backwoodsman 23 Mar 21 - 02:10 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Mar 21 - 03:09 PM
Backwoodsman 23 Mar 21 - 03:22 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Mar 21 - 03:23 PM
Steve Shaw 23 Mar 21 - 03:27 PM
Bonzo3legs 23 Mar 21 - 07:04 PM
Senoufou 24 Mar 21 - 06:29 AM
The Sandman 24 Mar 21 - 06:57 AM
The Sandman 24 Mar 21 - 07:01 AM
JHW 24 Mar 21 - 07:03 AM
The Sandman 24 Mar 21 - 07:09 AM
Megan L 24 Mar 21 - 07:25 AM
Nigel Parsons 24 Mar 21 - 07:33 AM
Steve Shaw 24 Mar 21 - 07:45 AM
Dave the Gnome 24 Mar 21 - 02:50 PM
Backwoodsman 24 Mar 21 - 03:36 PM
Dave the Gnome 24 Mar 21 - 03:43 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Mar 21 - 09:56 AM
Dave the Gnome 25 Mar 21 - 04:11 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Mar 21 - 04:39 PM
Rain Dog 25 Mar 21 - 05:05 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Mar 21 - 08:16 AM
Senoufou 26 Mar 21 - 09:15 AM
Jon Freeman 26 Mar 21 - 09:23 AM
ripov 26 Mar 21 - 10:26 AM
Jos 26 Mar 21 - 11:19 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Mar 21 - 12:24 PM
JHW 03 Apr 21 - 06:15 AM
Jos 03 Apr 21 - 06:52 AM
JHW 03 Apr 21 - 11:01 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 12:41 PM

It is absolutely essential that the milk goes in tea last. If you put the milk in first, you don’t know if you’ve over-milked the tea until it’s too late - milked tea can’t be un-milked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 12:57 PM

Yes it can. Pour some out and put more black tea in :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: DMcG
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 01:50 PM

How come you didn't know it was going to come with a rocket salad? Here in Cornwall we have things called "menus."

You would be surprised how often such things are not mentioned on menus. Many a time I have looked at a sandwich menu, selected the only thing on it without salad listed and guess what the sandwich includes?

(While salads are fine, I don't think they suit everything.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 02:05 PM

The best salads I ever had were in Argentina - no weeds or rocket to be seen!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 02:10 PM

“Yes it can. Pour some out and put more black tea in :-D”

But only if it’s ‘proper’ tea made in a tea-pot. If it’s a quick bag-in-a-cup jobbie you don’t have any black tea in reserve! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 03:09 PM

We lefties don't drink proper tea. We believe that proper tea is theft.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 03:22 PM

I only drink it at a weekend, Steve. The rest of the week it’s a bag-in-the-mug dunker.


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Subject: RE: BS: The other recipe thread is too long
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 03:23 PM

Ah, sorry about that, Bonzo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 03:27 PM

Ah, sorry about that misreading, Bonzo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 23 Mar 21 - 07:04 PM

Tea is theft??? Surely only Proudhon Tea!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 06:29 AM

One of the silliest questions in the Census is in two parts:-
What job do you do? (Husband "School Cleaner")
Describe what this job involves. (Husband "Eh?")
He was tempted to reply "Robbing banks then cleaning their toilets".
Your ethnicity? He was tempted to answer "Senoufo" but thought they might not have heard of this tribe.
It must be tempting for people to answer facetiously to these daft questions, but I suppose they'd risk a fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 06:57 AM

since they can track where people are by their smart phones, it seems to bebelonging or appropriate to an earlier period, especially so as to seem conspicuously old-fashioned


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:01 AM

so we are all tracked anyway if we have a smart phone, since The 2001 Census cost approximately £255 million for the UK, what does the 2021 census cost , a waste of money imo


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: JHW
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:03 AM

Nother reason not to have a smartphone.
Realised at breakfast that milk often goes in second. Had to open another bottle. Glass, delivered by the milkman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:09 AM

The total cost of the 2011 Census in England and Wales over the period from 2004/05 to 2015/16 is estimated to be £482 million. This is more than twice the £210m spent on the 2001 census. so we are in a middle of a pandemic[apparently according to the establishment]
so why are these inefficent politicians wasting this money , why not postpone the census for 2 years and spend the money on better wages for nurses and doctors more vaccines better designed virus hospitals, feckin inept idiotic politicians


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Megan L
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:25 AM

Not in Scotland our census is next year


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:33 AM

It is impossible to estimate the cost of the current census based on previous ones. This is the first to be conducted mainly online, reducing the need for census officers to visit properties. I would expect (but don't guarantee) that this one will prove less expensive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 07:45 AM

The official reasons for having a census are complete bollocks. Findings will not be acted on. Take the guff about housing, for example. Round here, planning for new housing has nothing to do with local need indicated by any census (massive new estates with no regard for the increased burden on local infrastructure - don't get me started...). The planning round here is far more likely to be predicated on baksheesh and on making a few landowners, especially those chummy with the local councillors, as rich as Croesus. "Planning services" has meant ruthlessly running them down for at least the last ten years. Council funding slashed, numbers of doctors and nurses slashed, schools crumbling to the ground, GP services shite... We seem to be having a census for no better reason than that we always have a census. So I'm with Dick on this. Bloody waste of money. I suppose we'll be spending a few more tens of millions chasing up people who haven't done it or who have done it wrong, and even after all that you won't find any better information than is already available at a hundredth of the cost, as if we were going to use it anyway, which we won't be. Still, it keeps an army of people temporarily busy, I suppose...


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 02:50 PM

Well, if you are making it with a teabag in the cup you have to put the milk in last anyway. If you pour milk on a teabag then put the boiling water in it can never get to the right temperature to brew the tea!


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 03:36 PM

The teabag has to be out before the milk goes in though, Dave. Makes me feel nauseated when I see people milking it with the bag still in. Revolting!


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 03:43 PM

Spot on, BWM


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 09:56 AM

I had a road to Damascus moment outside a cafe near Venice after I'd asked for a cup of tea. Out came a little teacup three-quarters full of rapidly cooling water, a teabag in a packet and a little jug of milk. It was not possible to obtain the required beverage from that lot. Up to that point I'd always thought that I hated coffee. But after that incident we tried coffee Italian-style and we've never looked back. We now have a bean-to-cup coffee machine. I still won't touch instant coffee, the very vomit of the Devil.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 04:11 PM

I thought the same about instant coffee until I discovered Lavazza instant. Not as good as proper stuff but passable. Although I do need to add milk or cream which I don't do with proper coffee.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 04:39 PM

Lavazza red label beans are our go-to. We keep them in the fridge in an airtight tin. It helps that Lavazza are sponsors of Liverpool FC. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Rain Dog
Date: 25 Mar 21 - 05:05 PM

Camp coffee?


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 08:16 AM

We have a bottle of that Rain Dog! Good in cooking and the Mrs likes it in hot milk. A chickory Latte :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 09:15 AM

Here's an extract (April 14th 1951) from our local paper (EDP) on the subject of the Census 'back then'. It's about Sidney Grapes and his relatives (imaginary Norfolk family) and was always written in Broad Norfolk dialect:-

"Granfar arsked har sum lot of questions. Sum on 'em wus on the form, but a rare lot of 'em wornt.
"Dew they reely want ter know orl that?" say Old Mrs W. Then she dint tell him har roit airge.
Granfar say, "If yew woz only that old, how cum yew're a-gettin the Pension?"
Arter that, Mrs W reckon she'd only bin a widder wunce, but Granfar knew she'd buried at least tew on 'em.
At the finish, Mrs W said that Granfar should put her down fer a bathroom, 'cause that'd look better.
"Bathrume!" say Granfar. "The only bathrume yew're got hang on a nail behoind the scullery dor!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 09:23 AM

I'd not heard of Sidney Grapes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: ripov
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 10:26 AM

Blimmin 'eck, you are a health concious lot,-no-one#s mentioned putting the sugar in,which raises another question, if you have a "no added sugar" fruit juice, do you add sugar to hide the taste of the sweetener? take a moment to ponder onhow the british paid china for their tea leaves


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Jos
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 11:19 AM

I don't put sugar in tea or coffee.
I avoid artificial sweetener if possible, which means carefully reading the labels and packets of anything claiming "No added sugar" (it doesn't mean the product won't be horribly sweet - it probably will, because it will have artificially sweetener in it), and I am very suspicious of anything labelled "No artificial sweetener" (it may mean the product contains the HORRIBLE STEVIA, which is derived from a plant and thus doesn't count as artificial).


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Mar 21 - 12:24 PM

Not sure about this, but I don't think you can market something as just "fruit juice" if you've added anything to it to sweeten it. You can call it a "fruit juice drink" I think, but the labelling rules are fairly tight. I stand to be corrected on that. But don't run away with the notion that fruit juices are that healthy. Bought orange juice of the Tropicana ilk contains as much sugar as coca-cola. You're much better off eating an orange. At least you get fibre that way and the vitamins therein haven't been mangled by the processing. As for sweeteners, I once bought a packet of sugar-free sweeties from Tesco to scoff on my 90-minute drive home to come. Within half an hour of starting them my stomach was imitating a cement mixer in both churning and noise. Yep, Stevia. Always read the label and avoid Stevia like the plague!


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: JHW
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:15 AM

Got a Census letter saying I hadn't completed it. Asked them for new code, not supplied. Answer was that 'Everyone in England and wales at the moment are receiving reminder letters.'


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: Jos
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 06:52 AM

You would think it would be cheaper to check which households had completed their census forms, and then just send out reminders to the missing few (unless, in fact, most haven't completed it).


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Subject: RE: BS: Census day
From: JHW
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 11:01 AM

Yes but robots don't think like that, if at all.


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