BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 05:19 PM

"Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?" [Pat Robertson]

One who started thread suggested that Robertson told God to kill the three judges he hates. Not true. Incediary, and should cause any reasonable person to suspect latter statements to be equally untrue.

I am not a fan of Pat Robertson, but I ask if his detractors can defend every word uttered by Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, both purported to be Christian men of the cloth?

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 06:06 PM

"Falwell, Robertson and Bennett are targets because they make moral judgements. They must be destroyed."

Good heavens, Guest! YOU make moral judgements all the time! We all do! But I'm not going to destroy you, and if you try to destroy me, well, I'm NOT a nonviolent sort (as long as you aren't violent towards me) and I WILL shoot back.

By this simple statement you've put yourself in the same camp as FR&B. Hope you enjoy the company.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 06:15 PM

Rapaire, I think Guest/1:48 directed those remarks against those of us who disapprove of the unholy quartet.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 06:59 PM

"Examine the religious principles which have, in fact, prevailed in the world, and you will scarcely be persuaded that they are anything but sick men's dreams."
-- David Hume
"A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows."
-- Mark Twain
"The most heinous and the most cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives."
-- Mohandas K. Gandhi
"Is it not strange that the descendants of those Pilgrim Fathers who crossed the Atlantic to preserve their own freedom of opinion have always proved themselves intolerant of the spiritual liberty of others?"
-- Robert E. Lee

And the one most germane to this thread:
"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one. "
--Benjamin Franklin

P.S. For good measure, one more quote showing how foreign Pat's ideas would be to the Founders of the US:
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruit? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. "
--James Madison

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 07:29 PM

Kevin, you may already know this, but in case not--if, during Bush's Administration, any of the Supreme Court justices were to retire, especially any of the more liberal justices, Bush and those in his camp would be given the gift of their dreams. It would be Bush's job as president to replace them. And, of course, the appointee or appointees would be from the Bush end of the political spectrum.

Please, please, pu-leeze, God, let them all hang on until Bush is out of there!! Please please please. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 07:38 PM

The right wing used assisination to effect their agenda effectively in the 60's. Many arch conservatives think liberals are insane and to play "fair" so when they hear Pat pleading to them to rid me of "this man" you can but some will try with their trusty Bushmaster.223

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 08:11 PM

Ebbie:

You are more perceptive than most. I make enigmatic statements to make people think. Don't Donuel and guest of 6:59 scare you more than I?

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: LadyJean
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 11:25 PM

My sister is a lesbian. She has many qualities in common with a tension headache, but she's all the family I have. My main worry, now that her rottweiller is dead, is that someone who thinks he's a Bible believing Christian decide shooting her is just what God wants him to do.
Pat Robertson single handedly created the Y2K crisis. He started the story, and pushed it until the mainstream media picked up on it. It was never going to happen. Pat just likes disasters.
Could some of our Wiccan catters turn him into a toad. He'd be much more useful going ribbit and eating flies.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 01:41 AM

LJ:

I must demur on the origins of the Y2K crisis. Geeks were discussing the issues long before Pat Robertson ever heard of it or mentioned it and there were plenty of them who thought it could be catastrophic. It is impossible to tell how bad it might have been if the huge amount of remediation work that was done had not been. Pat Robertson just decided that it might have enough cataclysmic potential to be suitable to his mythology. I guess there are a limited number of things that are bad enough that you can attribute them to GOd or some such notion.

I don't doubt he reckoned prayer averted the catastrophe, rather than hundreds of millions of dollars worth of programmer hours. More fool he.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 02:08 AM

Hmm! I thought he was a toad. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 11:35 AM

Sorry LadyJean, it's against us Wiccan catters' beliefs to cause harm to anybody.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 11:58 AM

But being a toad would be a great improvement for him, so it wouldn't he causing harm, it'd be doing him a favour, as well as other people. It would count as a sort of exorcism.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 12:43 PM

Well, if we ask that he become a toad or something better, for the highest good of all concerned it wouldn't be such a moral dilemma.**bg**

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 12:56 PM

This is true, Kat, and he needs to be somewhere where he will not do any harm himself. So he can't be a cane toad, because they do a lot of harm in Queensland. Any suggestions?

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 12:57 PM

horned toad comes to mind:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: JennyO
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 12:59 PM

All right - as long as he's not a HORNY toad.......

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 01:09 PM

That may be the problem.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 01:41 PM

The "horned toad" is actually a lizard, as most of you know. Any suggestions for a new mortal form for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton? C'mmon, guys, don't waste that great imagination!

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 03:42 PM

Although he's not my candidate of choice, I do kinda like the Reverend Al Sharpton. I wouldn't want him hanging onto my leg, but I'd say he has the tenacity of a pit-bull.

Bush! There! Go get 'im, Reverend!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 04:22 PM

I picture Jackson as an aging mule with a huge fortune in gold strapped to his back, gradually leaking out, blowing away in the wind. Make a good movie.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 06:10 PM

There are always newts. And salamanders. But I think we should keep him and not sully other species with our problems. Bad public relations....

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From:
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 01:38 PM

"Herr Pat Prays On The Airwaves" (Sung to the tune When Pat Works On The Railway)


In the year of two thousand three
'Twas then Herr Pat said "now I see"
"God's gonna torch the three supremes
While Pat prays on the air waves."
Filame yore yore-a
Fil-a-me yo-re yo-re-a
While Pat prays on the air waves."

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 01:57 PM

IN 19-hundred and seventy-nine
Pat Robertson needed a brand new line,
"I'll make me gold by acting divine!!",
And Pat prayed on the air-waves!!

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: Gareth
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 02:02 PM

Hmmm ! Why does this remind me of the Rev. Nemiah Scudder - I fear if this goes on we may well have a need to revolt in 2100.

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: LadyJean
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 11:32 PM

Jackson and Sharpton can be toads too. We have a toad shortage, and they're very useful amphibians. Ribbit.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 01:41 PM

Thank you oh lady with class. Salamanders, newts, toads, frogs, and all other amphibians deserve our love, warts and all! It is the Christian thing to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Pat's Supreme Threat to Supremes!!!
From: John Hardly
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 08:09 AM

The article linked says he prayed for the Justices to retire, not to be smitten.

A