BS: Chalabi is a loser

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: dianavan
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 11:13 PM

Yes, Geoduck, Chalabi is a slippery operator. He duped Democrats and Republicans into supporting him and his INC. I was not interested in his involvement with the Dems because at that point he had not provided the false information that gave the excuse needed to occupy Iraq.

It was the Republicans, however, that continued to trust him and use his army to secure the removal of Saddam and attempted to place him as a leader in the new Iraq even after he was convicted of embezzlement in Jordan and after an FBI investigation into the of leaking top secret information to Iran.

In November of this year, the Pentagon continued to wine and dine him at the office in talks that were not widely reported in the media. The investigation by the FBI didn't seem to hamper neo-con support of this scoundrel one little bit.

His INC was not supported by enough Iraqis during the election to give him a democratically elected seat but he still managed to be appointed to very high positions in the newly formed government. In fact, he will be the man responsible for getting the oil up and running once again although another member of his family has been responsible for "protecting" the pipelines. It is because the pipelines are constantly sabbotaged and the truck drivers threatened, that the distribution has come to a grinding halt in the first place. Go figure!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that until Chalabi becomes the 'man in charge' pipeline sabbotage, threats and so-called insurgencies will plague Iraq. Once he gains power, the oil will flow directly to those he considers to be allies.

He makes the Bush administration look like the sucks that they are.

I don't like or trust Chalabi one bit and I don't believe for a minute that he cares about the Iraqi people any more than Saddam or Bush. They are all scoundrels.

Chalabi is a very intelligent but ruthless politician who is a master at playing both ends against the middle if it means there is money to be made. He does not have the support of the Iraqi people so why is the Pentagon still licking his boots?

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 11:17 PM

May we come to a concensus over the spelling of lob?

lob is a verb.
lobe is a noun.

To affix a suffix to the verb, double the b and add the suffix.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: GUEST,Geoduck
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 12:26 AM

D:

Take a big black magic Marker and black out anything related to Democrats and Clinton in my post and one can easily come to your conclusion.

But if you want the whole picture like most people withourt an agenda and you will see that the entire congress was conned by Chalabi.

When a president comes into office does he totally stop every process and program that is in place when he takes office and restart them the same day?

First of all it is impossible. Second when a new president from a different party lets an appointee stay over or a program stay in place, it is a compliment or a concession implying that his predecessor was not completely imcompetent.

It amazes me how People who voted for Clinton and Gore can blame Bush for situations he inherited because he did not end everything and restart it correctly.

Would Vice President Gore have done so? I don't think so.

Democrats have a different set of rules that they be apply to Republicans. Like if a Democrat wins they take what ever happens but if a Republican wins they say "I didn't want you to win so you must do perfect or I will raise hell and make your life miserable" They hold a grudge.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: Peace
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 12:28 AM

You and Old Guy with that grudge thing again.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: freda underhill
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 12:43 AM

this old mud thread Iraqi Puppet leader embezzled millions

is worth reading in retrospect. excerpts from an article on that thread report that Chalabi

1. was scorned by most of America's national security establishment,
2 is ostracised in the Arab world
3 has no support or poweer base in Iraq

4 is wanted in Jordan for stealing hundreds of millions of depositors' dollars from a bank he managed which collapsed

AND

5 that Chalabi, "more than any other person", had been the key supplier of faulty intelligence to the CIA about Iraq's purported "stockpiles" of biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: dianavan
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 12:53 AM

Geoduck - Bush has had many good opportunities to dump Chalabi since he became president - embezzlement, lies and spying.

Why then, was he back in Washington in November meeting with Condoleezza Rice, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Snow, and national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley? He also gave a talk at the American Enterprise Institute.

Why would so many in the White House want to continue a relationship with a man who has little or no support in Iraq and why has the administration continued to funnel huge sums of money to him?

Is this American-style democracy?

Donuel - Can you make a cartoon showing the face of Chalabi which says, "Your tax dollars at work"?

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: Peace
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 01:19 AM

"Why would so many in the White House want to continue a relationship with a man who has little or no support in Iraq and why has the administration continued to funnel huge sums of money to him?"

The lady has nailed it in one!

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: GUEST,G
Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:21 AM

Mr Bobert, I will give you credit for one thing even though I am not positive of it and that is you really don't fail to recognize the truth when it comes to you, you merely refuse to accept it, particulary when it would tend to refute your Anarchist points of view.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: Peace
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 05:29 PM

"Anarchist points of view."

You seem to misunderstand what anarchist means. Bobert is not an anarchist.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: Peace
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 06:28 PM

"Main Entry: an·ar·chism
Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-"ki-z&m, -"när-
Function: noun
1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
2 : the advocacy or practice of anarchistic principles"

People who vote in elections--as Bobert does--cannot be 'true' anarchists, FYI.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: pdq
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 06:54 PM

Actually, the Socialist and Anarchist movements were quite closely associated with each other. Both demanded huge social change and railed against the free market system (my term). On paper, one demands a huge centralized government, the other no government at all. In practice, they wanted to punish the rich and reward the poor...here is a bit about the assasination of president McKinley:


"A more dangerous element -- anarchism -- exacerbated the situation when it arrived from Europe. Anarchists brought a more radical philosophy to the scene, maintaining that any form of government exploited and oppressed the people. They believed that one way to combat government was to eliminate those in power. Since 1894, anarchists had assassinated four European leaders -- President Sadi Carnot of France, Empress Elizabeth of Austria, King Humbert of Italy, and Spanish statesman Cánovas del Castillo. In the United States, an anarchist had attacked industrialist Henry Clay Frick, in part for his role in the failed Homestead strike.

For some individuals with little or no formal education, few skills, and no hope of improvement, anarchism offered a natural outlet for their frustration. Cleveland resident Leon Czolgosz fit the profile perfectly. Poor, reclusive, and often unemployed, he had been born in Detroit to Polish parents in 1873. He left school after five and a half years and worked at various jobs and later drifted to Chicago and became interested in the socialist movement. The interest continued in Cleveland, where he took a job in the city's wire mills. Two weeks before he traveled to Buffalo, Czolgosz attended a lecture given by the nation's most notorious anarchist leader, Emma Goldman. She spoke of the struggle between the classes and why the time had come for action against government."

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: GUEST,Jeremiah Muskrat
Date: 03 Jan 06 - 11:55 PM

Al Gore's Victory Speech

Good Evening. I would like to thank the American people, except for the ones in my home state who know me too well, for voting for me. I would also like to thank Chad in Florida and my team of airborne Lawyers who made this all possible.

I will immediately reverse all of the decisions made by my former President, Bill Clinton, even though I supported them 100% when I had to as Vice President. All acts of Congress done onder his administration are now suspended and all his appiontees are now fired.

In the next few hours I will get our government all straightened out. The con man Chalabi, who duped everybody in the former administration, including me will be immediately cut off and all monies given to his phony INC will be recalled. Bin Ladin will be captured by nightfall and we will never ever have any more terrorist attacks on American Ctitzens. Saddam Hussein will be contained in a few minutes and he will not be able to support terrorisim or murder his own people ever again.

I hate to cut it short but I have 50 years of work to do before the end of the day.

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: GUEST,G
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 05:53 AM

Peace, how do you know that bobert votes?

Subject: RE: BS: Chalabi is a loser
From: Peace
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 10:15 AM

I know he votes because he says he votes.