Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted

Subject: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 03:07 PM

Any advice on getting a good ADSL broadband provider?

I've got cable broadband myself, and am pretty happy with that, but my father-in-law has decided he'd like to get wired up, and for him it'd have to be via his phoneline.

I had been thinking about using Sky, since he gets his TV from them, and they have had lots of publicity about their free broadband service - but when I inquired of them they said it wasn't available for his phone, so it'd be £17 a month,thank you.   Then I talked to a technician at a specialist shop and one said just the same had happened to him, and he thought it was Sky bullshit, and another one at another shop said more or less - if they could provide the £17 service they could provide the free one if they wished, he said.

So I came home and googled "sky broadband oprobkems" - and boy are there some unhappy customers out here - just try it. (And I've has experience trying to deal with Sky TV in the past myelf, and it wasn't much fun.)

Anyway, I don't want to land the old man up with a turkey, especially one where he'd have to pay through the nose. So anybody got any advice. What's needed is a provider who will can set things up without fuss and delay, and provide a decent basic service which doesn't go wrong, and who will responds readily and helpfully when things do go wrong.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 03:55 PM

Go onto the F2s bulletin board and see who customers are jumping ship to - I can't remember and I'd ahve to look it up again but the Villan has already gone and you can PM him

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 04:09 PM

"F2s bulletin board"? I probably will when I know what that means. But I've got more trust in Mudcatters than I have in strangers. (Well, I know most Mudcatters are strangers in most ways, but you know what I mean.)

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 05:55 PM

OK dude - PM the Villan. You'll find him around here somewhere...

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Bernard
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 05:58 PM

Pipex are reliable, have been in the business a long time, and aren't expensive... you need a BT line.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 06:09 PM

Aah've aalwez used BT Broadband and the only probs aah had wez when the' brought oot the 'home hub' but wor Jenny gorrit sorted oot forruz.

Aah wad avoid Taalk-Taalk - At the moment aboot 60 people at work (aboot 250 souls in aall) are undergoing a lengthy prob at this time - Phone and Online lasts aboot 15 minutes before it 'logs oot/hangs up' - Of course when you finally (after hoors) get through te the help desk and are on hold...... it cuts oot after 15 minutes and ye hev te start aall ower again - They are contactin' other people who work in the banking system (via the intranet) who are using this company and apparently so far there are aboot 300 nationwide in our company alone - Taalk-Taalk aren't respondin' to e-mails sent from their customers via the website on other peoples PC's

With SKy ye have te gerrit aall in writin' before ye sign up otherwise ye wind up with stuff ye never asked for - My mate Smudge is the least 'sporty' person aah knaah - Nee interest in any TV sport at aall but when he signed up wi' Sky he wanted 'Discovery', 'Disney', (for the bairns), & Films - He wound up with two Sports Channels as well as Disney - Nee Nature Progs or owt!

Best of luck

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 06:18 PM

Hi Richard, just picked this one up.

I have moved to ADSL24 and they are superb. Their support is top notch and they only have techie guys helping you. Support by phone is national rate and is top notch. However support online is also excellent and quick reponses.
One of the very best, but slightly dearer. You gets what you pays for.
Since leaving F2s my speeds have quadrupled.

I am using the home 30 plan at £19.99 a month. Here is the link. http://adsl24.co.uk/broadband_home.php

Got a good forum as well http://adsl24.co.uk/forum/
Which is supported by the MD of ADSL24 and he is real switched on and so so helpful.

Cheers
Les Worrall

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 06:44 PM

Stay with BT. They supply the phone lines, the exchanges and most of the equipment that all the others use. A the end of the day, BT have been around a long time and know what they're doing in the telecoms business.

BT pioneered broadband in my area, so I was lucky enough to be one of the first in the UK to have broadband from them;I also live close to the exchange. In my experience, hardly anything has ever gone wrong;if it does - it's a free 'phone call to sort it.

BT send you the router and the software; I set my brother up earlier this year, and I couldn't believe how cat-sat-on-the-mat it is now. All you need to do is turn on the computer, put the BT disc in, and follow the instructions.

I'm not certain what the BT Broadband costs me each month without rummaging through a phone bill, but it's reasonable.

Free broadband might sound great, but anything free usually ends up being worth what it costs.

Also - rumours have it that BT are planning a 28meg broadband in the next 12 months or so: not bad, when fifteen years ago I was using a 14k dial-up modem in the office to send faxes.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 06:50 PM

That sounds interesting - only thing is I just checked that ADSL24 site, and keyed in the relevant phone number, and got back a message saying "Your line has an incompatible device on the line. You will need to have BT remove this device before signing up to broadband with us."

What I suspect that means is a home alarm system my father-in-law has on his phone. You know the kind of thing - he wears a device with a button round his neck, and if he has an emergency he pushes it and helopmis summoned. Saved his life earlier this year when he had a fall, so he definitely ain't going to want "to have BT remove this device".

When I was in touch with the alarm people they said that having an ADSL filter on the phone socket should sort that, and I understand that that's normally part of the package supplied by broadband providers, So I'm a bit puzzled.

Any suggestions?

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: redsnapper
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 07:18 PM

I use BT and am happy with them... no problems and a very reliable connection. Same at work.

RS

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Bru
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 07:25 PM

Sorry - I was the "Guest" on the last post. Thought I was logged in.

I know the device your father has - my late mother had one until last year. Obviously something like that has priority over any internet connection. I presume the device your father as isn't a BT lifeline, but one provided by the Social Services, and monitored by a control centre.

Yes - BT do supply you with two filters when they send you the router. You need one filter for every telephone using the BT line - so, if you have a 'phone in every room you'll need a filter with every phone. You can buy spare filters from BT or Maplins. I'm not a techie, but I do know from experience that a telephone plugged into the line socket without a filter doesn't work very well - if it works at all - once broadband has been enabled.

Alarm lines don't usually allow incoming calls for obvious reasons; that's what BT detected. The best thing is to unplug your fathers emergency unit while BT tests the line. The problem is - I know from experience, that the minute you disconnect the emergency unit, the control centre at the other end are likely to send out the cavalry. But is does only take seconds for BT to test the line.

I think that once you've got your broadband operating, and you've got a filter on the line to which your father's unit is connected, everything should work fine.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 08:06 PM

"Which" reviewed broadband providers not long ago: Pipex, which was mentioned above came up well, if I remember correctly, as did Zen.
We use AOL (on a BT line), which is not one of the cheapest, nor was it one of the best in the Which report, but seems to work for us! The ADSL modem came free with 2 filters when we signed up to Broadband. (and a free webcam!)

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 12:47 AM

AOL is horrid - my daughter uses it and I can't make it do anything I want when I visit her.

I left BT when they introduced "Cleanfeed". Theymonitor what websites you wish to access and if it is one that is on their prohibited list in stead of connecting you you get teh "404 site not found" page. They say they do not record who is blocked from what by this system, but it's funny they can supply statistics to the government isn't it?

This is presented as being to stop kiddieporn - but the list of proscribed sites they use is supplied by the government, and how long will it be before "politically undesirable activity" is added to the list? It will start with "sites with known links to Al Quaeeda", and gradually it will widen to include every site that is critical of the government of the day.

Don't go there unless you support the thought police.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 02:46 AM

McGrath

Phone [phone] (9am to 7pm, Mon - Sat)

and ask for James who is the MD and tell him what you have been told and ask him if there is a solution. I guarantee you will get an honest answer as well as the answer being knowledgable and spot on. He is a nice guy and very helpful.

Les

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: gnomad
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 03:28 AM

I have used Virgin for about 18 months, was impressed with both the simplicity of getting it to work, and the way that all promises made have been kept. Delivery of both hardware & service have been as and when agreed, everything just worked.

I have had only one case when the service ceased, and simply restarting the router cured it (they had warned by e-mail that I was getting a free boost to the service speed, which may have been the cause when the switch was made) so I have never needed to deal with their tech support.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: treewind
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:16 AM

I'm not inclined to blind brand loyalty with ISPs and I changed several times a few years ago, (easy when you've got a domain name so you don't have to tell your friends your new email address every few months) ... but I've stayed with Plus Net for years now.

It's particularly useful to me that Plus Net will host 5 domains for free.

BTW, They're owned by BT now and if they start filtering me "Cleanfeed" style I'll be off like a shot. Probably to someone like Andrews and Arnold, one of the geeks' favourites. Or UKFSN, again a specialist choice for free software enthusiasts like myself but about as well-run as a one-man ISP can be.

Anahata

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: LesB
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:20 AM

I'm with Plus Net & so far have found them O.K. I was with BT until I went broadband, but they were too expensive for me. I'ts hard work getting rid of Bt's dialer though.
Cheers
Les

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:37 AM

McGrath
The Md of ADSL24 says that unless you sort out the device that is stopping you having broadband, you are going know where. You just won't be able to get broadband with any ISP
He gave me this number for you to ring (they deal with such issues) 0800 169 0934. Tell them what happened when you tested the line with ADSL24.
They should be able to test your line, tell you what device is stopping broadband and offer a way round the problem.
Once you have done that, feel free to ring James the MD for further advice.
Les

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:39 AM

For quality, you can't beat BT broadband.
Tiscali comes second in my view.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: redsnapper
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:42 AM

but the list of proscribed sites they use is supplied by the government, and how long will it be before "politically undesirable activity

BT's "Cleanfeed" list is supplied by the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) which includes the govenment as a partner and has a remit to identify illegal sites that include:

- "images of child sexual abuse hosted anywhere in the world"
- "criminally obscene content hosted in the UK"
- "incitement to racial hatred content hosted in the UK"

Since I don't visit sites of that sort Cleanfeed doesn't bother me. Information about what is and what is not within IWF's remit can be found here
Certainly there are cheaper providers but I have not had any down time with BT.

RS

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: treewind
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 05:23 AM

For the record, I'm not interested in viewing any of the above, but share Richard's political concerns about where such tools might lead once the precedent is established.

I'm actually in two minds about ISP's filtering and monitoring: they could take action against users whose computers have become infested with spam zombies (as millions have, all over the world) which are spewing spam and malware all over the net. In practice they don't because they fear losing customers by taking such restrictive action.

See "ISPs turn blind eye to million-machine malware monster" in The Register.

Anahata

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 06:13 AM

I have used Madasafish
for years. Reliable and straightforward. Not the cheapest but won an award last year.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Kampervan
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 07:56 AM

My reaction is exactly the same as Treewind.

I'm currently with BT, how can I tell if 'Cleanfeed' is in operation on my connection?

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: GRex
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:08 AM

I use Tiscali myself and have no problems.

         GRex

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:10 AM

Thanks for the response. The good thing about asking for help from Mudcatters rather than on techie sites is that people here generally write in non-geek language, and there's no sneering at ignoramuses. (Or rather when that does happen, which occasionally does occur in a musical or folkloric context, the perpetrators tend to get jumped on and scragged by other Mudcatters fairly rapidly.)

VirginMedia - they provide my cable broadband, and I've always found them reliable and helpful,though I know soem people haven't. I hadn't thought of them for ADSL. Is that what you are using, gnomad ?

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Girl Friday
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:36 AM

I'm using Trevor's Tesco Broadband. There haven't been any problems over the past 11 months except getting the clubcard points. I don't understand what ADSL is, but noone has me3ntioned Tesco yet. Only £13.97 p.m.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: The Barden of England
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 08:41 AM

I'm with Virgin Media (formally Telewest). Never had a problem, but it's not ADSL. It's Fibre optic to the junction, so a cable modem is needed. How it sits with the other device I don't know, but if you're with Virgin Media Kevin, then a quick call should answer it.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 09:39 AM

Just checked with TESCO and up came this message:

We have identified that you have some services on your line which are incompatible with Tesco broadband. These may include Featurenet, Redcare, Private Service, Exchange Branch lines or Copper Wideband Services. You will need to contact the provider of these services in order to confirm what you have in place. These services will need to be removed before we are able to provide you with Tesco broadband.

I phoned up one of the numbers The Villan gave - 0800 169 0934 - and they checked and said it was because he's one BT Light User Tariff, and all he needs to do is switch to some other tariff and there should be no problem. Problem solved, touch wood...

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 10:01 AM

And I've just phoned up BT and the helpful lady at the other hand has shifted him from that tariff to another one that costs the same, but gives him a better deal in other ways, and doesn't mess with broadband. Ain't it great to have a phone helpline that actually helps?

Now to start sorting out what computer would suit him best...

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: gnomad
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 11:31 AM

Sounds like you have it sorted there, McG, but yes it is ADSL we have around here, I suspect we won't be getting cable any time soon. We are even too remote to get channel 5 yet.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 11:40 AM

The thanks goes to James the MD of ADSL24 who gave the number for McGrath to ring.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 11:54 AM

Just found the "Which" report I alluded to above (Sept 06), where they looked at such features as ease of set-up, cost, connectivity, reliability, customer service, online and telephone help.
No 1 was Zen, 2 was Global, 3 was (wait for it!) Waitrose.
Pipex was 9th, Plusnet 10th, Demon 11th, Virgin net 13th, Tesco 16th, BT 20th, Tiscali 21st, and my old friend AOL a miserable 26th out of 30!
I left BT when we were still on dial-up as I couldn't understand their geeky instructions when our connection kep dropping out.
LesB
You should be able to stop dial-up popping up when you don't want it by going into Internet Properties and checking the box that says "Never use dial-up" or "Never dial a connection".

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 12:54 PM

Redsnapper - note the weasel word - "includes". Fine and dandy but what else does it include?

Kampervan, trust me, it is, and you can't opt out if you are on BT but they are not very upfront about it. You may be able to find by a site search at BT Yahoo, and if you rummage through a lot of other google finds it does turn up if yougoogle "Cleanfeed". You can even find some stats about how many people it stopped from accessing IWF proscribed sites. Allegedly their identities are not recorded. Yeah right.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Kampervan
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:19 PM

Richard, Thanks for that.

This is a really difficult topic, I don't want to access the sort of sites that 'Cleanup' apparently censors but, at the same time, I don't trust those who want to make the decision for me.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: redsnapper
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:24 PM

Then I pose the question... Is it better to have no filtering at all given some of the appalling consequences of some of those types of sites for society? (I dislike censorship as much as the next person but surely there is a balance to be made).

Respectfully,

RS

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Kampervan
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:40 PM

RS

I think that there is a bit of thread drift happening now.

However I agree absolutely.

But I don't want to filter for other people so it's the age old quandary,if we allow others to make these decisions on our behalf, then who polices the policemen?

Ultimately they can stop us seeing things that THEY, not us, think are wrong; e.g. an opposing political view. (Unfortunately I don't think that I'm being paranoid).

I don't have an answer, only an uneasy feeling!

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: redsnapper
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:47 PM

To bring the thread back on focus, although I use BT now I have also had good experience of Madasafish as mentioned above.

RS

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:51 PM

I can't see my father-in-law being worried about stuff like "Cleanup".

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Kampervan
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 04:55 PM

At home I use BT, which infiltrates Yahoo into the depths of your computer.

However, at work we use www.zen.co.uk/broadband/   not well known, but it'a efficient, low key, does its job and is not expensive.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 06:03 PM

You mean he isn't a revolutionary McGrath? Damn! I thought there was another of us.....

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Sep 07 - 06:06 PM

No, that was my father, and he's dead.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: GUEST,Dan
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 02:56 AM

Is Sky really that bad? I understand what McGrath says but if you google pretty much any company name you'll find people who have had problems. Remember ntlhell, anyone? (I had ntl at the time and it was fine).

I've recently moved to an area where you can't get freeview or cable so I need to get Sky for BBC4 etc. It seemed sensible to get the pakaged internet at the same time. This thread has made me wonder.

Thanks for any views,

Dan

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:20 AM

Dan
It all depends on your requirement.
If you need fats Broadband and reliable line and can't afford to be down, and use the interenet for gaming and heavy usage, you are going to have to find the very best ISP.
However if you just pop onto the internet occasioannly and are just surfing the odd thing or 2 and its doesn't matter too much if you don't have broadband for a few days then it doesn't matter too much who you go with.
I have Sky but would not put all my eggs into one basket.
My wife works via the Interent and therefore my first example is important. She can't afford to be down for more than half an hout at a time.
That is why we paid a bit extra with ADSL24. We get 6.5 download which is great for her. The ISP is sexcellent and stable and above all, have the brilliant support team if and when you need it. My wife has to work to very tight time schedules.
It really is your call.
Les

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 03:12 PM

We've just swapped from plusnet to tiscali. When plusnet were taken over by BT, messages started going missing, correspondents were getting bounced for no reason, service disappeard intermittently....

No probs like that till the takeover. A friend tells me the same thing's happened for him at madasafish (also a BT purchase).

I rely on continuous service to do my various jobs, and never knowing what was happening with incoming & outgoing messages was useless. And tiscal is cheaper and comes with unlimited daytime phone calls, also useful.

Paws

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:09 PM

In the end we decided to go for Sky, since he's got it for his TV already. And they "promise" that within three months or so he can switch from the paid broadband to a free service, if he wants to.

I've been getting the computer set up for him, and he should be on line in a few weeks.

I see there's a Spanish lady of 95 who is going great guns with as a high-power blogger - The World's Oldest Blogger World oldest blogger? We'll have to see about that!

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 04:34 PM

Well, I'm prolly about to goto ADSL 24 too - but what do others do about the trail of email addresses you leave behind - I'm paying BT £1.50 per month for my pop3 pickup from that address, and teh F2s equivalent is £24 per year and it starts to add up. I can't use things like hotmail for pop3 pickup.

I guess what I ought to do is go for a webhost with email forwarding and just use theemail forwarding, so I can have a constant email address, but that soulnd slike a hassle too, and I'm not sure if things like shiftmail are really "professional" enough for my permanent email forwarding. THoughts?

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Bru
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 05:26 PM

Well, Richard, setting up a hosting package with it's own site and email addresses isn't a bad idea. My hosting for my websites cost £29 per year (that's per hosting package). Email-wise - for that I get 50 Pop3/IMAP email accounts, unlimited auto-responders, unlimited forwarders and alias's, along with webmail access, and a ton of other features. So if you buy a domain name such as joebloggs.com, or joebloggs.co.uk, you can then use bona-fide email addresses like [e-mail].

You can add, chamge or delete the email addresses as you want, and redirect them where you like. One of the few niggles I have with BT, is once you delete an secondary email address on your BT account, you can never get it back. They say you can after six months, but just try it.

Although I wouldn't do it, I know somebody who rents out email addresses on two sites for a fiver a year. Pays for his hosting packages.

The emails are all setup and controlled from the control panel on your hosting package; you don't even have to publish a web page to get your emails working.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: treewind
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 05:42 PM

I've had the same domain name (for email and web site) through about half a dozen different ISPs over at least 12 years. It's a bit of a hassle when you transfer it, but far less than having to tell world+dog about your new email address every time.

Forwarding services like Clicknames (my favourite if I want to get a domain registered in a hurry) work well for email, not quite so well for web forwarding.

Better to get proper hosting though, either through your broadband ISP or a separate company.

Anahata

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 02:16 AM

Richard
See my PM
Les

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 02:43 AM

Thanks Les.

Clicknames look cheap but there is some bas shit about them on the net if you google clicknames.

But the cost of using say Fasthosts would be about the same in a month as clicknames in a year!

Decisions decisions!

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Nick
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 03:02 AM

Richard

Why not go to 123-reg and register www.richardbridge.org.uk for two years for the princely sum of £6.09 (including VAT) for two years? You can handle all your mail forwarding etc from there to anywhere you want. Transfers in and out are also free.

A little over the price of a pint of beer a year isn't too much.

Subject: RE: Tech: Good UK ADSL broadband wanted
From: Rasener
Date: 20 Sep 07 - 04:08 AM

Thats who I use and have it directed to ADSL24