Armistice Day Thread - Monitored please

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From: GUEST,mg
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 12:55 PM

I am heading out to DC for the 25th memorial of the Vietnam Wall being put up. If anyone is there, I plan to be at TFI Friday at Foggy Bottom 11:30 a.m. on both the 11th and 12th so please join me. After that I will head out for events at the wall..and will want to go alone.

I hope to also visit the Korean memorial which I only went to once..in the foggiest of nights..my friends had no jackets and put blankets around their heads to stay warm and then we got there and there were all these statues with ponchos on and you could not tell the living from the dead in the fog..which is how it usually is I guess.

I would like to present the name of Daniel Emmett Cahalan, a far distant cousin who popped up in my family tree. I don't know much, other than it seems he was a POW in Korea and "repatriated". I do not know ifthat means he was brought back alive or dead..

Here is a song for him and others of the Korean and all wars..tune is a tweaked Dainty Davy. Please remember the Korean veterans on this day.

Those we left there in the cold we remember we remember
Have no fears of growing old
Oh do we remember

Those who fell in prison yards we remember etc.
Savage weather savage guards

Those who died face down in mud
Asian soil Yankee blood

Heartbreak Ridge and Porkchop Hill
If we don't honor them who will

Those whose names we can't forget
Comrade spirits with us yet

Those who died when far too young
It is for them (and Daniel Cahalan) this song is sung
Oh do we remember

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From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 03:02 PM

Much honour and comfort to you, mg. Thank you for sharing.

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From: GUEST, mg
Date: 08 Nov 07 - 03:08 PM

Thanks. Just for the record I started this out as B.S. because sure as ..someone would say why is this in this music section.

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From: Megan L
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 05:13 AM

Remembrance day

Marching to the cenotaph
With glory in their eyes
Old men proudly marching Oh don't they realise

But they were at the battle
The heard the sounds of war
They came back the jobless
Wondering what it was for

Friends so young were dying
so cheap the price of life
Widows, children crying
So dear the price of strife

Marching to the cenotaph
With memories in their eyes
Old men slowly marching
Their memory never dies.

Thursday 8th November 1984
MBL

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From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 07:21 AM

This year Armistice Day and Remembrance Sunday fall on the same day.

I'll be thinking of my father whose career from being a teenager was in the army.

Years ago he took us to Arnhem and we saw the war graves there.

He had some amazing stories to tell.

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From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 11:49 AM

Moved from below:

Arthur C. Brooks, Jr.
    1920-2007
World War II and Korea

Interred in Arlington National Cemetery, with his comrades, on September 24, 2007.

RIP, Dad. My flag is flying.

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From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 02:06 PM

Ralph G. Doellman, WWII
John H. Mueller, WWII
Robert Doellman, WWII
Robert M. Slocum, Vietnam
Carl Altgilbers, WWI
Peter Strunk, US Civil War
William M. Lyons, WWII, Korea, Vietnam
John A. O'Neill, Civil War, Spanish-American War
Clarence Weisgerber, WWI

The first four lay close together in Quincy, Illinois; the next two lie in other cemeteries there. The rest sleep in Arlington National Cemetery.

Here's something I wrote....

Jesse didn't come to work today.
The dead were tramping through her mind again
Too much death and too many napalmed bodies
Too much blood, too many brains spilled in the mud
Too many broken bodies --
Chains a thousand years in forging kept her home.

Jesse didn't come to work today.
The dead were tramping through her mind again
A kid right out of nursing school
She was there at Khe San, Hue and Tet
Off to war, she saw it all
Chains a thousand years in forging kept her home.

Jesse didn't come to work today.
The dead were tramping through her mind again
The bottle drowned the nurse that she had been.
She'd roamed around and slept around
Nothing stopped the marching
Chains a thousand years in forging kept her home.

Jesse didn't come to work today.
The dead were tramping through her mind again
When the foreman went to find out what was wrong
He found her lying across her bed
A forty-five slug in her head
Chains a thousand years in forging yanked her home.

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From: Snuffy
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 02:52 PM

Elegy in a Country Churchyard

The men that worked for England
They have their graves at home:
And bees and birds of England
About the cross can roam.

But they that fought for England,
Following a falling star,
Alas, alas for England
They have their graves afar.

And they that rule in England,
In stately conclave met,
Alas, alas for England,
They have no graves as yet.

Gilbert Keith Chesterton

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From: oggie
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 05:18 PM

Lament
George Malcolm

As I walked under the African moon,
I heard the piper play;
And the last place ever I heard that tune
Was a thousand miles away.

Far to the west, in a deep-cut bay                
By the ceaseless sound of the sea,
We lived and laughed in a happier day,
Archie and Johnnie and me.

For they'd be piping half of the night
At every ceilidh by,
And I'd be dancing with all my might
As long as they played, would I.

Many a time we were at the Games,
And many a prize had we;
And never a one but called our names,
Archie and Johnnie and me.

But Archie's dead on the Libyan sand.
And Johnnie was left in Crete,
And I'm alone in a distant land
With the music gone from my feet.

I heard him under the African moon,
That piper I could not see;
Yet certain I am he played that tune
For Archie and Johnnie and me.

Lieutanant-Colonel George Malcolm, Lord of Poltalloch DL JP
Duntroon Castle, Lochgilphead, Argyll
Died March 1976.

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From: bbc
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 07:10 AM

Copied from yesterday's Remembrance Day thread--

Sorry to hear of your dad's death, Art. I lost my dad on April 13th of this year, after an increasingly miserable 5 years in a nursing home. He was a veteran of World War II & the Korean Conflict. His earthly remains are interred at the Missouri Veterans Cemetary in Springfield, Missouri. His memory lives on in my heart & minds & in the character of me, my sister, & our children. I am confident that his spirit lives with God & that my dad awaits our reunion, by & by. I am glad that, each year, I've thanked him for his service to our country.

Here is a link to the photo set of my parents that I made on my flickr page:

My Folks

Rest in peace, Dad; I love you!

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From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 09:29 AM

The epitaph on the local War Memorial :

True love by life, true love by death is tried :
Live you for England. We for England died.

Says it all for me.

May all who fell, wherever they fell, rest in the arms of the Great Mother, and know the smile of the All Father.

So mote it be.

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From: Rowan
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 07:28 PM

Last night on ABC (Oz) Radio National there was broadcast an interview to commemorate Remembrance Day, where Philip Adams talked with Michael Caulfield who began a mammoth task in 2002 to record a social history about those who have directly participated in or have been affected by Australia's involvement in war, from World War 1 to the present. The project includes over 2000 interviews and is available for all to access on the internet. I understand the interviews are unexpurgated; those of some living veterans are embargoed until after their deaths and those of currently serving personnel are embargoed for 15 years for security reasons.

Michael has also selected 21 of these interviews and has published them in a book, Voices of War: Australians Tell their Stories from World War 1 to the Present.

Cheers, Rowan

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From: Rowan
Date: 14 Nov 07 - 08:02 PM

On Remembrance Day there was another broadcast, on ABC (Oz) Radio National, of a commemorative program; "Encounter ". Its transcript may interest readers of the thread.

The First Man
"On November 11th, 1918 the guns fell silent on the Western Front as the armistice was declared. Encounter re-visits the memories of World War 1 with all its poignancy as the "war to end all wars" in this program of reflections about Albert Camus, Siegfried Sassoon and Edith Cavell."

Cheers, Rowan

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From: GUEST,iancarterb
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 12:55 AM

I have picnicked a few times on bright summer days on beautiful Mount Edith Cavell in BC. Perhaps I'll try to wrap up in a peacoat and be there on Remembrance Day some year. It'll be frosty a capella singing, as it should be to honor the memories of the poor souls in the foxholes.
Carter B