Cats and dogs

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: theleveller
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:21 AM

Simple. You wouldn't take a cat poaching.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: kendall
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:22 AM

Could someone move this to the BS section? Sorry about that. I'm using a laptop and I still hit the wrong buttons from time to time.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: kendall
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:40 AM

I guess I wasn't thinking of usefulness. Cats are almost totally useless, but, many people are too.
I was thinking more about affection.I like both, but I favor dogs as most men do.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Mr Happy
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 09:43 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7147685.stm

'Cave Felis?'

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Cats at Work
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 10:11 AM

Cats can give intense relief from stress. Stroking them has proved to be medically therapeutic. Cats have staff, dogs owners... My old cat here at the college was National Cat of the Year for services to autistic children, they went and talked to her to calm down.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Charmion
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 10:22 AM

Do cats need justification? Surely not!

Should it be necessary, I would like to point out the complete absence of uninvited rodents in our house, and the pleasantly lived-in look of our clawed, cat-hairy furniture.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 10:26 AM

Nasty smelly, shit in other people's gardens, songbird killing, fickle.

There's more

G.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: topical tom
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 11:20 AM

I'm a cat person myself.We are fortunate to have a cat which does not eat regular food or kitchen scraps. We could literally leave a cooked turkey on the floor and Ashley would not touch it.I do call her "cat-dog" though because she constantly follows us around.
    Dogs are fine too but they cannot be left alone for days and they do not cover up their shit.That being said, my daughter and son-in-law have a well-behaved, obedient dog who does many tricks and will not enter a room if told to stay out.
    Bottom line:dogs are good but cats are more convenient.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Bee
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 11:22 AM

Like 'em both, myself.

Well brought up dogs: affectionate, helpful (well, they wanna be), loyal, protective.

Badly brought up dogs: dangerous, bitey, frightening.

Well brought up cats: affectionate, rodent controllers, good will-stay-there lap warmers, smell nice.

Badly brought up cats: smelly, garbage eating, poop in wrong places.

Although, I've never had cats poop in any of my gardens, whether I had cats or not. Maybe because of being rural - cats prefer going someplace private, like the woods. My last kitty had a trail worn to his 'spot', and was such a careful burier you'd have had to dig up the loose surface to know what he did there.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Mr Happy
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 11:33 AM

rodent controllers?

Mine bring their 'pets' inside the house & lose 'em!

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 11:37 AM

I have two of each, and all four are very nice animals. They don't commingle, however. The dogs live outside and have a very nice enclosure in the garage. The cats live in the house. When they meet the vet bills are too expensive. It happened once, and that was enough.

SRS

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 11:45 AM

Some are harder to train than others. Those that cannot be trained shouldn't have pets.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Mr Happy
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 11:53 AM

Good one! LOL! 8=)

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 02:02 PM

"and they do not cover up their shit"

And all the better for it - at least with dogs you can see where it is, and therefore don't get a handful of shit when you're poking around in the herbaceous borders! :-)

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 02:43 PM

Cats and dogs don't always like the same people, but I have learned that if our cats and dogs ALL dislike someone I introduce them to, they probably know something that I am about to find out.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 03:02 PM

Remember, dogs are not just for Christmas...




















with a little imagination and a stock cube, there's plenty left over for Boxing Day.

I'll get me cat-fur covered coat.

LTS

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:07 PM

Is this thread somehow missing its first message?

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:11 PM

Here it is: How are cats and dogs different?

~S~

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:23 PM

Your dogs says: "Look at all the things they do for me, they must be gods!"

Your cat says: "Look at all the things they do for me, *I* must be a god!"

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Rowan
Date: 17 Dec 07 - 08:37 PM

Neither does well with Oz wildlife.

Some cats like a distinctive collar.

Some dogs can't swim.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: theleveller
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 06:36 AM

We've got two cats. One puts us to bed at night; bites us on the face when she thinks it's time to go, ushers us upstairs, sits in the bathroom, then tucks us up in bed. The other gets us up in the morning, jumping on the bed with the accuarcy of an alarm clock, wakes us up and won't leave us alone until we get up. It happens every day, without fail. What does the dog do? Lies on the sofa and farts.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Bee
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 08:47 AM

My old dog never figured out where her farts came from - an especially loud one would cause her to whirl around looking utterly astonished - "What was that noise?!!"

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 08:56 AM

I like dogs but I prefer cats. I love to sit on the sofa with Merlyn snuggled up on my knee. She's very tolerant of Harry too which is good. Cats are great stress relievers.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Becca72
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 12:26 PM

I love most animals and am quite fond of my family member's dogs but I prefer to be kept by cats. They're not as needy and can be left alone for a couple of days. I just relate better to their personalities, I guess.

Bee, LOL....my sister's pug, Owen, does the same thing when he farts!

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Dan Keding
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 02:46 PM

I have two Australian Shepherds and there is nothing better than coming home after a long stretch on the road or late at night and having them greet me at the door as if nothing in the world is more important to them than me coming home. Unconditional love, that's what dogs give us.
Cats are great for sitting on the couch and petting, though dogs can be just as useful in the petting department, but its dogs that look to us and ask nothing in return.

My cat owner friends always say that dogs have masters and cats have servants. I'd say that dogs have friends.

Dan

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Becca72
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 02:57 PM

Sorry, but my cats are just as loyal to me as any dog. They sit in the window and wait for me to come home, then greet me at the door. Mikey immediately stretches up arms out like a little kid who wants to be picked up.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Bee
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 03:00 PM

I dunno, Dan. Our dog (man, I miss her!) was pretty demanding sometimes. Example: nudge. take me out..... nudge. takemeout.... NUDGE! TAKEMEOUT!

Cats, when they decide to, will love you just as unconditionally as a dog. I may just have done something outrageous to my cat, stepped on his toes, hauled some un-natural object out of an orifice, smeared horrible ointment on him, but a bit later he will be on my lap, head in my armpit, lookin' for love.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Dec 07 - 11:48 PM

After 10 years, stray dog finally gets a home

The Herald (Everett, WA)

Rest easy, mutt lovers. For fretful folks like Steve Duncan, the plight of the Mountain Loop Highway stray dog is resolved. For what local legend says was perhaps 10 years, a homeless canine survived near Big Four's ice caves and was known in Granite Falls as Lucky, Hobo or Roadkill.

The stray isn't dodging logging trucks or fighting crows for dinner anymore. A hero rescued the abandoned pooch he calls Hobo. And yes, Hobo is a male, solving at least one mystery about the dog who wouldn't get near humans, but was skilled at dining and dashing.

It was Duncan, who works for the Snohomish County Road Maintenance Department, who built a covered pit stop for the mutt along the highway. "I thought somebody dropped him off," Duncan said. "I worried about him all the time."

We'll never know who all stopped with kibble and water, but the group included kind hearts who work at the U.S. Forest Service ranger station at Verlot. Road department lead worker Cecilia Leifer said Duncan is an animal angel who feeds and waters wild cats. "He's kindhearted," Leifer said. "Steve is an extreme animal lover."

Duncan served with the 3rd Marine Division in Vietnam, came back stateside and joined 12 Special Forces B team, Heavy Weapons Sergeant and was one of seven officers in the 1970s who began the Seattle Police Department Mounted Patrol.

Hobo was finally caught by animal enforcement officers more than a week ago. Road workers who saw the capture started a frantic phone tree until word got to Duncan, 63, that the dog was heading for the Everett Animal Shelter. The next day, Duncan rushed to the shelter. Hobo was led from his cage, knees locked and dragged across the floor.

Then something amazing happened. The ailing dog let Duncan gently lift him into the carrier for the ride home to Mount Vernon. No muzzle was needed. Hobo never snapped. Did he know?

The Duncan household includes other rescued pets. His wife, Shirley, who gave Hobo his first home cooked-meal -- pork roast -- said she knows why her husband is such a kind soul. "Because of Vietnam, he stopped hunting," Shirley Duncan said. "He can't save those guys, but he can save animals." Feral cats find food in the carport. Birds choose from a selection of feeders. Happy squirrels munch peanuts. Hobo is temporarily in a large, tarp-covered shelter with clean straw. [note: vets don't recommed table food for dogs--pancreatitis is a problem.]

"I feel bad he is so sick," Duncan said. "He's depressed. He lost his freedom." At the vet's Thursday evening, Hobo was diagnosed with arthritis, worms and a stomach mass. He is thought to be about 10 years old, weights 75 pounds and is possibly a Red Heeler with some Labrador. Duncan will be out almost $700 for medical bills. He received about $100 in donations at work.

Eventually, Hobo will have a big yard to play in, but there will be a fence. His nomadic ways are being traded for square meals, a clean bed and soft hands to stroke thick fur. "I intend to spoil him," Duncan said. "Let all the people on the loop know that he is in good hands."

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: jacqui.c
Date: 19 Dec 07 - 04:21 AM

What a great story. It's good to know that there are such people in the world.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: GUEST,LTS who can't work for bawling her eyes out.
Date: 19 Dec 07 - 05:21 AM

AAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

The man must truly be remarkable if the dog will let him hold him...

LTS

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 07 - 08:28 PM

There should be a law allowing us all to shoot dogs on sight. The vast majority of dog-owners have absolutely not the faintest idea of how to control their parasitic animals, and very few would bother to pick up the shite if they thought no-one was watching. In fact, I have a theory that the real reason dog-owners take their dogs out for walks has nothing to do with exercise and everything to do with getting their disgusting animals to shit as far away from home as possible. I was walking on the cliffs this morning when two bloody great huge Labradors came tearing up to me at 30mph and had me dancing. I "politely" invited their feckless owner to try to control his idiotic dogs but he just told me to "piss off, you stupid prick." I invited him to have a nice day himself too.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Dec 07 - 12:00 AM

Looks like Mr. Shaw is probably a cat person.

There are a lot of dog owners who don't know how to control their animals. But don't punish the dogs. Shoot the owners.

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: GUEST,Slag
Date: 20 Dec 07 - 11:52 AM

Re theleveller: What's wrong with poached cat??? They're delicious!

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Rog Peek
Date: 21 Dec 07 - 05:46 AM

I saw a woman yesterday with two ferrets on leads, taking them for a walk. I live in a city, very unusual sight.

Rog

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 21 Dec 07 - 10:18 AM

here's a moving story about a dog that might interest some people here ...

a fallen marine's dog

biLL

Subject: RE: Cats and dogs
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 Dec 07 - 02:02 PM

What does the dog do? Lies on the sofa and farts.

At Kendall's house, there's an ongoing battle over who gets the sofa. And Jacqui isn't involved.

Peter