Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Andrez
Date: 06 Jun 16 - 07:55 PM

Many thanks for your info Freddy. One link led me to hear some snippets of the album and now I should probably go through my CD collection and look for the earlier versions if they exist and have a listen there. I might have to visit my Irish musician friend and have a listen to the album over there before committing my own $$

I don't necessarily mind repeats of old material Megan if they are done well or differently in some way or another. Moving Hearts and their 2007 Dublin reunion album (sadly minus Christy) or Van Morrison Astral Weeks Live at the Hollywood Bowl 2009 might be a couple of good examples here.

Anyway thanks all for the info and your thoughts.

Cheers,

Andrez

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 06 Jun 16 - 06:17 PM

Andrez, I don't know if these tracks are older material but here are some links for you for the CD Lily which came out on May 2016.

Lily 20th May 2016
Track listing

"Mandolin Mountain"
"The Tuam Beat"
"The Gardener"
"Lily"
"Wallflower"
"Oblivious"
"The Ballad of Patrick Murphy"
"Lightning Bird Wind River Man"
"Green Grows the Laurel"
"Lost Tribe of the Wicklow Mountains"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_(Christy_Moore_album) 
~~~~~~~~~~~
"...We worked at different locations over the past 2 years..."
http://www.christymoore.com/news/new-album-lily/ 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Review by Patrick Maginty 
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Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Megan L
Date: 06 Jun 16 - 11:39 AM

I often wonder why anyone would pay for a cd that was predominantly a rehash of old material

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Andrez
Date: 06 Jun 16 - 05:46 AM

Just heard from a dear Irish friend that there is a new Christy CD just released recently. I've heard it involves remakes of older material and a couple of new songs. Has anyone heard it? What do you know or think of it? Is it worth getting?

Cheers,

Andrez

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: PeadarOfPortsmouth
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 03:04 PM

I can't weigh-in on his concert persona, since I haven't had the opportunity to see him in person. But since it seems like you're all in agreement (with the notable exception of GuestDK) that he is not precious, and this thread has turned into a love-in for the man, I wanted to add two words:

Me too.

I think he is a fantastic artist, great interpretator of songs and a decent songwriter himself. He is perhaps my favorite artist and without a doubt my single biggest influence. I probably wouldn't have picked up a guitar and started singing myself if not for his music. (I'll leave it to those who know me to decide if that's a good thing or not.)

Unfortunately, within the last week, I discovered that I've lost a cassette I had of a live performance he did for Claire FM back in the 90s. It seemed to be a warm-up to "Live at the Point" so now I'm going to spend money I don't have to buy that CD given the recommendations from Steve Shaw, Big Mick, et.al.

Thanks, gang, thanks a lot. :-)

Peter

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 09:11 AM

There is an old Yorkshire saying, ' them as can, do, them as can't either criticise or teach. '

eric

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: KEVINOAF
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 06:38 AM

yes he is precious and beyond the criticism of tasteless dorks ( critics are usually failed artists) nothing for me matches the RIDE ON album but more acknowledgement ought to have been given to the poetry of Bobby Sands on whose a lot of the lyrics rely heavily, The politics of this will no doubt light a fuse or two somewhere but britain has quite a lot to be ashamed of in its dealings with Ireland ___ I'm not Irish by the way !

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 05:36 PM

100 is VERY precious

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 04:05 PM

It is absolutely hilarious. I still have a hard time not cracking up telling it.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 03:56 PM

Okay. You got me. Still funny though.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 01:46 PM

It's an old story, Neil. I have been using the joke for several years now. Except I tell it as happening in Ireland.

Mick

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 01:37 PM

Guest,Jimmy,
I read your post about Bono 5 minutes ago and just now quit laughing. Good thing no suits walked into my server room just now or they'd be hauling me off. Not that I don't respect Bono and the things he has tried to accomplish, but funny is funny. Thanks for the laugh, it felt good.
                Neil

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Betsy
Date: 08 Feb 08 - 03:50 AM

He's a LOT precious . He's been performing for many many years and he knows what he's doing for the best, not only for himself in order to give the best performance , but to protect the audience, and make sure they get what they paid for , and NOT have the occasion spoilt by a hard core of so-called fans, who can be noisy (generally after imbibing too much ) and use his gig ,(and other Irish performers)an excuse for a gathering of the Irish "Clan"/hangers on , and a good piss up.
Christy puts first things first i.e. YOU the audience , so admire him for it and stop these snidey references.
There are performers who maybe deserve criticism for their inability or unwillingness to interact with the audience - Christy ,is certainly not one of them.

Cheers ,
Betsy

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 09:00 PM

At Celtic Connections last week, at the Festival club, Michelle Shocked asked members of the audience to come up and jam with her on stage. There was a lemming-like rush, including a backward one by myself as my button accordion was located half a mile away down the corridor in another room. By the time i got back with said instrument the stage was full of lemmings wi' moothies! (harmonicas)

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 05:10 PM

That's a funny story. I laugh everytime I hear it. LOL

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Jimmy
Date: 07 Feb 08 - 04:44 PM

At a recent concert in Glasgow, Scotland, the lead singer of the band U2, Bono, asked the audience for total quiet. Then, in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands once every few seconds.

While having everyone's complete attention, he said into the microphone, 'Every time I clap my hands, a child in Africa dies.'

A voice with a broad Scottish accent from the front of the crowd pierced the quiet:


'Well, foockin stop doin it then, ya evil basturd!'

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 09:17 AM

"... i wouldn't want him any other way..."
Up the 4711ers !

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 06 Feb 08 - 02:42 AM

He's absolutely fan bloomin tastic. Saw him in Bristol, the performance was electric - the atmosphere electric, and the whole evening a joy to go to. I wouldn't want someone to sing along next to me either, I think I'd even ask them to be quiet!

EWIS

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Brendy
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:29 PM

Scandinavia, Sue....

You'll be guaranteed to run into the odd headbanger when you're out there, believe me

B.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:22 PM

Audience members in the US take out harmonicas and play them during a performance??? :0

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Neil D
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:04 PM

The first time I heard "Little Musgrave" I got chills up my spine.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Fergie
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:07 PM

As I said at the beginning of this thread. Christy is the man.
Fergus

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 06:43 PM

"A bit 'precious'?"...Of coursehe is...a Diamond Geezer!

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Brendy
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 05:49 PM

Christy called them 'The Demon Clappers'.
Rightly so, as well.

What gets me are the guys who take out a harmonica and try and have a go at 'The Rocky Road To Dublin'

... in D Minor....

B.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,seadew
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 05:44 PM

Sure he's precious ! Most precious treasury of Ireland and yonder plains. A man of words, of responsability towards the songwriters he generously puts under the white light, aware of his immense talent yet not taking it for granted and working every day to polish the gift he was given.
Really throws his heart at the audience each time, gigs can only be described as "magic".

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 03:38 PM

Christy was one of the few Irish performers that came to north of Ireland venues, during the recent troubles, a man of the people in every sense.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 03:17 PM

And what about Philip Chevron's beautiful and poignant 'Faithful Departed'?

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Ernest
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 03:09 PM

Also he is a good interpreter of Jimmy McCarthy`s songs. A lot of those usually associated with C.M. are in fact written by J.McC. (Ride on for instance)

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 02:55 PM

And "True Love Knows No Season" (a.k.a. Billy Grey) on the later (reunited) Planxty album, The Woman I Loved So Well. There's all manner of good stuff on that record - some great songs by Andy Irvine too.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 02:43 PM

Speaking of great covers by Christy Moore: he also did a gorgeous version of Richard Thompson's Beeswing.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,RaggleTaggleGypsy
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 01:40 PM

Most of the songs that Christy choses to sing deserve reverence and are well worth just getting lost in. I, for one, do not pay money to hear some gobshite singing out of sync in order to show off the fact that he/she knows a few lyrics. There are times in Christy's gigs when the songs demand a quiet respect and others where jovial participation adds to the atmosphere. A Christy Moore gig is THE most complete performance.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: The PA
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 11:35 AM

Husband and I love him, recorded and live, though I do have to translate/interpret for the old man, its the accent you see, but I've been brought up with it.

I agree with all the positive comments, yes I go to hear HIM sing not the bloke next to me.
And as for the rude guest, DK, was it. Those comments say far more about him that they do about Christy Moore. Best ignored.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:58 AM

I thought about mentioning that (bodhran), and I would have cited the same two cuts.......***chuckle***. But I was just trying to give the poster a flavor. We could do a whole thread on Christy's music and reviews. I would be one of the loudest cheerleaders.

Mick

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:44 AM

Big Mick

His guitarmanship (is that a word?) may not be top notch but his use of the bodhran, without a beater IIRC,is some of the most sympathetic and skillful use of the instrument I have had the pleasure to witness.

Middle of the Island and Well Below the Valley sung only with his own bodhran (where can I find a fada on my keyboard)accompaniment make the hairs on my arms stand upright.

Sure, there are better singers too - but as you say his interpretation and timing are superb.

He has been off my Iriver far too long.

Elfcall

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: KeithofChester
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:24 AM

It's high-time I knew more about this man. Which 3 of his albums should I buy as a good introduction for a Christy Moore beginner?

Live in Dublin 2006: either the double CD or the DVD or both. I'd go with the latter, if you only want one, simply because its possibly the best folk DVD I've ever seen. Musical content is more or less the same, running order is different. Depends if you like to see the show as well as just hear it.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:07 AM

Yep, elfcall. I am not saying that those recommendations are comprehensive in any way. They simply give you a picture of the man at two very different times in his life, and a feel for the force he is. As to one criticism, he is not a stellar musician. But stellar musicians love to play with him. His timing is dead on, and when you combine that with the ability to deliver a lyric with superb interpretation, his quick wit with the audience, and the tales (liberally told) of his experiences, ... well, he is simply one of the best. "Authentic" is a word that is very trendy and overused in the States these days, but applying it to Christy is an absolutely correct use.

Mick

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Ruth at work
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:04 AM

agreed, Nigel. I loved them - when I worked on the Summer Sundae festival about 5 years ago they were playing, which is when I doscovered them. Great set. Lovely people. Amazing music.

Christy adds a whole new dimension to their songs.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 10:00 AM

On Christy being 'precious' - I have seen him 15-20 times and only once did he request an audience to stop clapping. This was at the RAH and as the acoustics are a bit odd he was getting the clap a 'half beat' behind his own playing and was finding it difficult - he was apologetic.

Best CD - mmm so many - I think I would agree with Big Mick - Prosperous is a must, as is Live at the Point, for my third Ride On or Ordinary Man but that is simply not fair on the other CDs and this does not include anything from the catalogue of Planxty or Moving Hearts.

Funnily enough I have not seen him live in the last few years - does he still use Celestial Soda Pop as his intro music?

Elfcall

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Nigel Spencer (cookieless)
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:55 AM

Thread drift, but Ruth, you have excellent taste. The Handsome Family are an incredibly good act... great live too, as much for the understated deadpan humour as for the fantastic songs. Rennie Sparks is one of contemporary America's best lyricists. Everyone should make an effort to hear songs like 'Weightless Again' and 'The Giant of Illinois'. Priceless stuff.

Take a peak: Handsome Family

If Christy is now covering their songs, it only goes to show that not only does the man have talent, he also knows how to spot a great song.

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Ruth at work
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:29 AM

arrrgh - guest above is me.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 09:24 AM

Listen to Steve Shaw. The two albums that I would START with are "Prosperous" to hear Planxty and "Live at the Point" which is an absolute joy. I still cannot listen to him say, "Tough shit, Paddy" without breaking out in a horselaugh. Perfect line, perfectly delivered. CAUTION: Once you hear these two, you will be forced to buy every other CD.

Mick

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:16 AM

In recent years Christy has recorded some Handsome Family songs: Butterfly (So much wine) and Peace in the Valley, the latter which he played on the Cambridge Festival highlights show a couple of years ago.

Their songs are dark, American gothic tales, but Christy gives them a poignancy and warmth. I think Butterfly is one of the best things he's ever recorded.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 08:12 AM

All too often he comes across (I think) like a fish out of water on his albums. The man live is the thing with Christy. If you want some of his albums I would go for the early ones such as "Spirit of Freedom" and "Ride On." I love "The Iron Behind The Velvet" too though it's much more of a Christy-with-guests type album. There's plenty of good humour and wit afoot on it.   The early (though short-measure) "Live in Dublin" is a cracker too. "Live at The Point" gives a far better idea of the real man than most of his studio offerings (in my opinion of course!) And everyone should have "Prosperous," the album for which the word "seminal" was invented and which spurred the lads on to forming Planxty. As far as his live shows go you won't find a better chap or chappess anywhere.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 07:53 AM

He has one for a mouth too.

> I hear he... [fill in the blank]

DK, do NOT repeat casual grapevine gossip of that nature unless you can prove your sources (signing your name might be a start). That characteristic doesn't sound like him, and it tells us a lot more about you than it does about Christy. It just comes across as the bitching of someone with an agenda - a jealous also-ran, perhaps?

Music for Brits & Yanks? Undoubtedly. But you forgot one group: the Irish. He's universally popular here, and not just for his singing.

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 07:28 AM

Riverman, I'd start with 'The Time Has Come'... and any of the Planxty albums he featured on, but particularly 'The Well Below the Valley'. Apart from the rather schmaltzy song about John Lennon, I'd recommend 'Ride On', too. Haven't heard any of his recent stuff apart from the inspired Morrissey cover.

Very rude Guest "DK", meanwhile, apears to have arseholes for earholes...

Cheers

Nigel

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Ernest
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 07:24 AM

There is a nice "Best of" album called "Collection 91-91" I`d recommend.
Otherwise I would listen through a few albums and deceide which songs I prefer...
Best
Ernest

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,Riverman
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 06:49 AM

Sorry folks slight change of tack but didn't seem necessary to start a new thread:

It's high-time I knew more about this man. Which 3 of his albums should I buy as a good introduction for a Christy Moore beginner?

Thanks for sharing...

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: GUEST,DK
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 06:26 AM

This bloke is probably the most over-rated, untalented, stuck up, hypocritical pseudo political, prima donnas on the scene.I also note that he is not taking part in the Moving Hearts re-union - I hear he doesn't like having to share the money! But it's more likely he is not competant to play with them. Watered down plastic-Irish slop for Brits & Yanks. If you like this drivel ... good luck to you!!!

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: Ernest
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 02:07 AM

Would be even worse if it is the performers phone that goes off...

Subject: RE: Christy Moore - A bit 'precious'?
From: goatfell
Date: 04 Feb 08 - 04:46 PM

I hate it when I go to a performance and dsomeboy's mobile phone goes off, I just hate that.