BS: PETA never too insensitive!

Subject: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 12:56 PM

PETA, the organization which has compared the killing of chickens to the slaughter of Jews and others in the Holocaust strikes again. This insensitive (to human beings) organization has prepared an ad comparing the slaughter and cannibalism on the Canadian bus last week to killing animals for food. So far as I can tell, thankfully, no media has actually run the ad.

If you think I make this up (I couldn't if I tried), google, as I did, "Peta Canadian killer adv".

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Becca72
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:05 PM

this is why I hate PETA


I love animals and that's why I can't agree with these nutbags. They are forever sending me junk mail (because I am a member of a couple "real" animal charities" and I "return to sender" with the website reference in the blue clickie written on the envelope. I don't know if anyone sees it, but it makes me feel better.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: irishenglish
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:13 PM

I lost respect for them ages ago, when they launched these types of ad campaigns. I'm all for pushing buttons, but they seem to go ahead with these ads, and never sit back and think-should we, is this too much? This is way too much.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: PoppaGator
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:16 PM

I wish I could remember the exact quote, but I can't.

I recently heard/read someone characterize the membership of PETA as clueless high-school girls, and boys who don't give a shit about animals but want to impress the girls. Or, funnier words to that effect.

Pedant alert: I couldn't help but notice that the "PETA Kills Animals" website linked above refers to Californai as "the Sunshine State." Florida is the Sunshine State; California is the Golden State. (Kansas is the Sunflower State, New Jersey is the Garden State ~ need I go on?)

Ignorance of official state nicknames shouldn't invalidate an organization's arguments, but I can't help but notice piddling details like this...

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: pdq
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:23 PM

In the Army it is spelled PITA:             Pain In The Ass

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:40 PM

People for the Eating of Tasty Animals kills 100%.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 01:52 PM

comparing the slaughter and cannibalism on the Canadian bus last week to killing animals for food

Is that a problem on Canadian public transport as a whole, or just the buses? And there's me thinking things were bad in the UK...

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Stringsinger
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 02:02 PM

I think the PETA has a point. They call attention to the brutalization of animals such as
stripping alligator skins off of them while they are ALIVE. They also call attention to the clubbing of seals to make fur coats for rich ladies. They call attention to the inhumane treatment given to poultry by factory farming...not to mention pig farming and the cattle industry.

Those who bitch about PETA are not getting it. There is a lot of inhumanity in the world.
The meat, dairy and poultry industry have kept up a good campaign to disguise their
maltreatment of animals and I'm sure there are plenty of folks who don't care about this.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 02:19 PM

No, Frank, I do get it. There is a lot of gratuitous cruelty to animals. But to compare the use of killing of animals for food to the holocaust, or to the insane butchery of a sleeping man likewise, is crossing the line of propriety, IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:04 PM

Stringsinger,

If you think that the seals are killed only for fur coats for rich ladies then PITA has successfully lied to you. Its like saying that cattle are killed to make 500 dollar shoes for John McCain.

But you also have obviously missed John's point, which is that they are dishonest and no lie is too broad for them and no exaggeration too extreme. These are sick people trying to stir up irrational hatred.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: irishenglish
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:05 PM

The positives are all well and good, but I don't think its bitching about PETA to say that they could find a less controversial way of publicizing their agenda. What about the family of the young man who was killed on that bus? Don't you think they have a say in what amounts to the trivialization of his murder by those good folks at PETA?

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:06 PM

well maybe that's not exactly what John was trying to say. But it is what I think.

PITA are nutty people trying to recruit nutty people.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:23 PM

PITA lies about it all.

Its well and good to say eating meat and any other exploitation of animals is immoral. That is their agenda. It is well and good to debate the pros and cons and let people decide for themselves democratically. But that's not what they do. Is it?

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:29 PM

They also say that ALL dogs are 'enslaved' by humans, and have been known to go to dog shows and let all the unattended dogs out of the crates. They also 'freed' a lot of mink on a mink farm. These were raised in captivity and had NO idea how to survive in the wild. Most died, but the ones that didn't were found under or back in the unlocked cages.

Sure, they 'save' animals. I have NO respect for these lying idiots.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:38 PM

Jack... democratically? Fook that. My buddies up country will gladly take in any PETA's that wanna stay with them and help them scratch a living out of the fly infested bog country of Kent County, New Brunswick, Canada, where potatoes and pulp are supplemented by deer, moose, grouse and the odd porcupine.

These asshole yuppies pray upon the wallets of the young and stunned with seal pup eyes and rose gardens. They are the predators.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:45 PM

Gnu!!! LOL relax.

I said it would be fine to settle it democratically. I didn't say I thought that they would win the vote!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: irishenglish
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 03:50 PM

Jack, unless you are using pdq's excellent abbreviation as mentioned above, it's PETA, not PITA

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 04:02 PM

"These asshole yuppies pray upon the wallets of the young and stunned..." gnu

One could say the same thing about television evangelists. :)

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: john f weldon
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 04:03 PM

Ha! This is why I Love Peta!

Peta Gals

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 04:13 PM

Yes John,

The organization seems to prey up the correlation between naive and air headed enough to take one's clothes off for strangers and being naive and air headed to think that animals equal to people. I call it the Bardot effect.

Plenty of young women are willing to whore out their bodies for what they call "animal rights". That's why plenty of young men join up.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 04:57 PM

I don't disagree with PETA's cause, it's their methods and fanatic bigotry I have a problem with.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 05:13 PM

Join my organization. FEMA. Fuck em all. Only one tenant. Leave me alone, or else.

What do we want? NOTHING!

When do we want it? NOW!

Doanations to FEMA will not be accepted. Piss off and leave me alone!

Pot Luck BBQ every Friday at my place. If you are a veggie, bring pot.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Alice
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 05:26 PM

I am acquainted with a fanatic who is in PETA and after what I've seen and heard from her, I believe PETA is a cult (not a religious cult, but definitely fits the criteria of a cult). When I saw the news about their reaction to the bus murder, I thought, "I'm not surprised."

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 05:36 PM

Or a salad.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Peace
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 05:43 PM

Do people from PETA go crazy when they see a coyote eating a calf as it's being born?

Their sense of the sensational is exceeded only by their lack of human decency.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Peace
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 05:45 PM

GREAT video, John. You da man!

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 06:25 PM

I've never seen PETA's take on polar bears. They eat baby seals because the oils from the from the seals make the bears' coats shiny.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 08 - 07:06 PM

And, they can use the small ones to buff their claws to a nice shine.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: MarkS
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 12:01 AM

Ebbie

Right! And both groups would do better advancing their agendas by a bit of moderation.
The message sort of gets lost when the listener is laughing.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 02:30 PM

Conderning the above comments about polar bears and coyotes; after 18 years as a park ranger, I'm convinced that PETA and other extremists got their knowlegdge about nature from watching "Bambi". I've heard a number of people state that "Man is the only predator in the woods". If that doesn't fit with "Bambi", I don't know what does.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 02:41 PM

I agree Steve, I think that a lot of the problem comes from stories like Bambi.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 03:46 PM

"Bambi" makes big money. Nice scam if you can sleep at night.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 07:47 PM

I wonder exactly when in the history of our species PETA thinks it became immoral to kill or eat animals? 2000 years ago? 10,000? 40,000? 1,000,000? We are OMNIVORES...our entire evolutionary history has equipped and directed us to eat almost anything we can find.
Some folks avoid meat for presumed health reasons...fine...but for most it is BBES ........ Big Brown Eyes Syndrome.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 07:52 PM

BBES... yes, inded... they seem to be the tastiest.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 08:16 PM

MarkS, don't know if you caught it- I was referring to "pray" on their wallets' rather than "prey". :)

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: gnu
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 08:54 PM

hehehehee

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Troll
Date: 10 Aug 08 - 08:15 AM

Peta is trying to foist their religion, veganism, on the world in the guise of concern for animals.

They are just as much religious fanatics as the radical Islamists who want the world under Sharia Law or the
far-right Christian Fundamentalists who want the world governed by the Ten Commandments - their interpretation, of course.

In their minds, the end justifies the means.

Why is everyone so surprised when they do something like this?

troll

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: MaineDog
Date: 10 Aug 08 - 08:45 AM

I almost agree with "Troll's" post, only that the fundamentalist religions are quite a bit more subtle in their machinations!
MD

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Aug 08 - 06:00 PM

>> only that the fundamentalist religions are quite a bit more subtle in their machinations<<

Like Fallwell and Robertson saying that 9/11 was punishment for gay rights and abortion and McCain's pal Hagee saying that Katrina was sent to prevent a gay rights parade?

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: Alice
Date: 10 Aug 08 - 06:19 PM

PETA is a cult. A group does not have to be religious to be a cult.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Aug 08 - 06:34 PM

Obviously America has the government it deserves.

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Aug 08 - 06:58 PM

So does Scotland ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensative!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 06:58 AM

What does PETA have to do with our government?

Subject: RE: BS: PETA never too insensitive!
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Aug 08 - 01:44 PM

They are one of many one issue special interest groups.