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Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Amos Date: 26 Sep 08 - 01:54 PM Well, he decided he had generated enough confusion for the day and agreed to come to the debate after all, in his brightly colored plane. A |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Ebbie Date: 26 Sep 08 - 02:52 PM I'll go on record here as I have been saying in my Alaskan hometown: I believe that Palin will be dropped before the election. As a nominee she is a disaster and is not likely to get better. Just today more has come out about the gifts she has accepted since becoming governor. My prediction is that in one of two scenarios, she will be out. One: She tearfully acknowledges that she just has too much on her plate and realizes that her family at this point has to come first. McCain will express his regret but say he has no choice but to accept her decision's validity. He will therefore nominate either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman to be his running mate, "either of whom will be ready to fulfill the role from Day One". Or Two: McCain will announce that Sarah Palin agrees with him that she does not meet the needs he will have in the rough years he will have as President of the United States, and that therefore he is instating Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge as his running mate. (As he had wished to do from the start but that Karl Rove wouldn't allow it.) |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: GUEST,Sawzaw Date: 26 Sep 08 - 02:58 PM "Wrong again, Sawz... Obama didn't "follow" McCain... Obama was invited by Bush and when one is invited to the White House when they are running for president one accepts the invitation.." La Times Sep 24, 2008: Obama, McCain invited to White House |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Big Mick Date: 26 Sep 08 - 03:12 PM The day after McCain chose Palin, I posted THIS, and predicted that she will flame out. The word out there right now is that in the practice debates and news conferences she is a disaster and the McCain team doesn't know what to do. Her performance with Couric and Gibson demonstrates perfectly that she is not qualified, and that McCain chose political expediency (which is blowing up in his face) over his vaunted honor and love of country. Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Donuel Date: 26 Sep 08 - 03:58 PM Mick, Good guess. I think she will stay to the bitter end/start As far as this thread goes, McCain made me a liar. He is going to debate. Probably the greatest debate of all time with McCain swooning from exhaustion and anger. If he is as run down as he looks, tonight he may collapse before a National Audience. His famous last words will be 'Country First' while witness' testify he actually said 'send sarah hhh...". Whether that was send her home or send her on could not be determined. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Amos Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:00 PM McCain's flailing panic(updated below)
John McCain will suspend his presidential campaign Thursday and has asked to postpone his debate Friday with Barack Obama so the two senators can return to Washington to help negotiate a Wall Street bailout, an approach that Obama promptly rejected. Associated Press yesterday: His campaign has said he wouldn't participate unless there was consensus between Congress and the administration, and a spokesman said the afternoon developments had not changed his plans. . . . The New York Times today: Talks Implode During a Day of Chaos; Fate of Bailout Plan Remains Unresolved The Politico, an hour ago: McCain will go to debateIn less than 48 hours, McCain went from "I'm far too patriotic to debate unless there is a deal that is done -- there's no deal until there's a deal" to "I'm going to debate even though there's no deal." Is there any way to describe that other than, as Spencer Ackerman put it, a "humiliating failure"? The New York Times's Patrick Healy today inanely ponders whether "In a Time of Crisis, Is Obama Too Cool?" (Didn't Rudy Giuliani become the Greatest Man Ever in History because of his post-9/11 coolness?) But surely excessive stoicism is vastly preferable to the sort of unstable, flailing panic that McCain has exhibited this week, where he issues a definitive, emphatic pledge which, less than 2 days later, is completely abandoned with little real explanation. UPDATE: On Wednesday, Joan Walsh said McCain's debate announcement was a "crazy stunt" and "he will regret it." I doubt she knew how right she was. In addition to the above, National Review's Rich Lowry adds yet another reason why this is so: A Hostile AudienceIt's understandable that McCain is trying to run an unconventional campaign -- it's the only way he has any chance to win, and it's why I thought and still think his Palin choice was shrewd, even if it ultimately doesn't work out -- but this "I'm-not-debating-yes-I-am" maneuver was just a total debacle on every level, and -- like Palin -- McCain is becoming an almost pitiable figure. " |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Big Mick Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:29 PM Donuel, .... it wasn't a guess. This is my bailiwick. The first time I heard her speak I knew she would have trouble. Having run campaigns at the highest level, I knew what savvy interviewers would do, and they did it. They can smell out someone who is over their head in a flash. Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Charley Noble Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:36 PM McCain has at least won the battle of "expectations." No one now expects him to do better than Obama. So if he just paws the ground and snarls a little he'll generate exciting headlines. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Bobert Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:46 PM Ahhhhhh, Sawz... Since when was John McCain elected president... He can't possibly invite anyone to the White House without being president so... ...guess again, Part 2... Ohters, Well, what was John Boy gonna do... Give Obama a feee stage at Ol' Miss with a national TV audience??? This little chess move on McCain's part backfired... That's the problem when you run a campaign based on complete suberfuge and no substance... BTW, Amos, Did you see the pic in the this morning's Post... There was Obama looking l;ike he was very much into the discussion and McCain down at the end of the table lookin' like a kid in class waiting for the bell to ring... Purdy funny... B~ |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Riginslinger Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:01 PM "I... predicted that she [Palin] will flame out. She hasn't, of course. She's running stonger than ever. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Big Mick Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:02 PM hold on to your dreams. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: artbrooks Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:12 PM Lessee - tonight's debate is back on. That means next Thursday's VP debate won't be preempted. Oh dear - watch that or try to find Fortunato's pre-Getaway song circle? The latter should be fun, and the former funny. Decisions, decisions, decisions.... |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Donuel Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:20 PM Mick, the word guess is flip. I too take great stock in my predictions. The last one that totally tanked was this summer when I forsaw a Bush family tragedy. Bupkis So its a show down. WIll she stay or will she go you say go I say stay |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Big Mick Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:24 PM No, I didn't say she would go, buddy. My use of the term "go down in flames" was merely rhetoric for her becoming a millstone around the neck of McCain, and contributing mightily to his defeat. Their campaign is showing all the signs of cracks in the foundation. The only thing that could save McPalin, IMO, is for a miserable showing in the debates by O'bama (my irish showing there.... ***chuckle***) and Biden, coupled with some October surprise of an amazing magnitude. Don't count the latter out, btw, given that the Cheney operatives can see the same signs. Winning is all for them, no matter who is hurt. Scary times, eh? All the best, Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Donuel Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:42 PM Ass President she certainly could save us all from the ravages of a long and cruel depression by goin nooculer and reducing us all to 30 brillion tons of well done steak. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Alice Date: 26 Sep 08 - 06:28 PM Well, why even have the debate.... this morning, the McCain campaign already has announced that McCain won!!?! Why let the truth interfere with their "reality"? ad states that McCain wins... before the debate |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Riginslinger Date: 26 Sep 08 - 06:49 PM Well, it's a forgone conclusion, isn't it? |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: GUEST,Sawzaw Date: 26 Sep 08 - 07:31 PM Amos taking the side of Achmadinejad and Mugabe is the one with arms flailing. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Amos Date: 26 Sep 08 - 08:22 PM Sawz: Your alteration of fact is verging on the defamatory, and if you are not careful I shall start going to the trouble of revealing your asininities for what they are. A |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Donuel Date: 26 Sep 08 - 08:37 PM http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_wins_debate.html?nav=rss_blog politoon |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: DougR Date: 27 Sep 08 - 01:07 AM Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! There was not debate tonight? I watched it, and thought there was! And I could have probably watched a scintillating episode of My favorite folk music Whistler instead. What a disappointment. DougR |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Backwoodsman Date: 27 Sep 08 - 03:30 AM The opinion of BBC 'Breakfast' (UK TV programme) commentators this morning seems to be that McCain won. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Sep 08 - 02:04 PM The problem being, in order for McCain to really win, he had to win big. Like Obama's pants would have had to have fallen down or something. The next debate will be on domestic affairs. McCain has never been domesticated. |
Subject: RE: BS: McCain quits, Won't go to debate From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 27 Sep 08 - 04:36 PM From: DougR Date: 27 Sep 08 - 01:07 AM Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! There was not debate tonight? I watched it, and thought there was! And I could have probably watched a scintillating episode of My favorite folk music Whistler instead. What a disappointment. DougR Not much was said of any importance...at least what the SHOULD talk about. This was crappy nonsense. political street theater! |