Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Jun 99 - 12:15 PM

well, seed, just email 'em to [e-mail]...(and if they are sized & cropped like you want 'em, that helps...otherwise you are at my tender mercies..*grin*)..I CAN scan slides and negatives..but NOT prints yet...so if you need snail-mail address, ask me in an email..

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Jun 99 - 10:42 AM

I'm really wondering how the hell I missed it in the first place? Thanks gar!!!

catspaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 27 Jun 99 - 12:43 AM

Hey, Bill--how do I submit pictures for the photo album? I'm getting an increasing number of pix of bay area mudders. --seed

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 09:04 PM

around many of my friends, all you have to say when someone is bitching is "Moose Turd Pie" and it tends to settle the issue VERY quickly!

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 06:58 PM

Now, Catspaw, aren't you sorry you asked? My hat is off to Gargoyle. Did you transcribe that Gargoyle or pick it up off the Internet somewheres?

I was sittin' here wonderin' if I would dig out my old Utah Phillips LP (yeah, that's L P! what's it to ya?) and transcribe it myself or just do a summary. Thankfully, Gargoyle leaped into the breach, sparing me either choice.

And Bill D. is right. Even knowing the story from Bruce and recalling his voice it ain't the same. What a raconteur!! Buy that product!

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bert
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 05:18 PM

Nah! Mudcat gets a cut if we buy from Camsco. Just tell 'em you 'catters

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 05:08 PM

"My God! That's Moose Turd Pie! ... It's Good, Though!..
...that pause doesn't do justice to hearing Utah Phillips deliver that line!!

do yourselves a favor...get the record from Wally...the record is a true classic...

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: gargoyle
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 01:48 PM

Part of the humor in the piece is found in the absence of moose in the southwestern U.S. The man is referring to a large cow-patty.

During my scatological sojourns in Maine the locals (Maniacs) used to laugh hysterically about the dumb summer people who would buy "moose-turd-jewelry." A moose turd is about size of the first digit of an index-finger and in the smooth oval shape of a pecan; they are fiberous like compressed partical-board and found in abundance throughout the North-Maine-Woods. Locals would shellac them and then string them into necklaces and earrings. They sold in gift shops for 15 to 25 dollars. Cost of materials about five cents. It is/was great for the local economy.

Subject: ADD: Moose Turd Pie
From: gargoyle
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 01:37 PM

Wats a matta wid ya Bert? Ya's gotta cut in Camsco Musik? Da goy mites be dade un pushin' up dazies fur he gots da werdz.

MOOSE TURD PIE by Utah Phillips

I'll tell you about the worst job I ever had. It was working for the Santa Fe Rail Road south of Las Vegas, Nevada. That's the old Mormon Muddy Mission, way out in what the Navajos called the "boonies", out in the desert. The job was gandy-dancing. Now, gandy-dancing used to be in the old days when the Irish were building the rail road. Of course, the first transcontinental rail road was built by Irish labor, and they used these long handled shovels called "Irish Banjos" that were made by the Gandy Shovel Company of Chicago. Now, the Irish laborer would take the wide end of the shovel, when he could find it, and he would jam it in under the rail or tie, and he would climb out on the long handle...do a little jig step out there. And they would lever the tie up and they'd push gravel up underneath it, and tamp it down; and that level the road bed. See, that's what gandy-dancing is...leveling the road bed so the damn train didn't fall off as it goes by...which is just a big drag for everybody.

Now, they don't do gandy-dancing in the normal way anymore, see, like they did in the old days. Nowadays they run 3 cars out on the line. They run a box car out there that's a bunk car; you sleep in it and it's got bunks that are 18 inches apart. Then you got a tool car with your tamping irons, your tongs, your double jack hammers, and your spikes, and all of the equipment to do the job. And then you got a cook car. There's no restaurants anyplace, so you got a cook car; pots and pans, a coal or wood burning stove, and a long table down the middle to eat at. The only thing they don't hire is a cook That's because they're cheap; saves them money. The rule is that in the crew they're supposed to pick among their own members, who's going to be the cook. They don't try to do this sensibly, like draw lots or decide who the best cook is. What they do is wait to find out who bitches and whines and pisses and moans the most about the cooking, and they say "all right wise-guy, you think you can do better, you get to be the cook". Well, that was me, see! Ol' alligator mouth, new man on the crew ; and that was the worst food I'd ever had. I mean it was otter water, comes out of an otter; terrible terrible stuff. Some people think that's a delicacy, but I thought it was garbage. So I complained, so they said "ok, wiseguy, you get to be the cook". That made me mad! Because I didn't want to cook, but I knew if anybody complained about my cooking, they were going to have to cook.

Armed with that knowledge, I sallied forth over the muddy river. I was walking around among the sheet grass and the bunch grass, and I looked down, and there was just a hell of a big moose turd. Biggest damn moose turd; that was a real steamer! I looked down at that meadow wafer, and I said to myself "Self, I'm going to bake up a big moose turd pie." Because if anybody complained about my cooking, they were going to have to cook. So I tipped that pasture pastry up on edge. I got my shit together, so to speak. And I started rolling it down towards the old cook car. BALUUMP! BALUUMP! I got it down there and leaned it up against the side and I climbed up in the cook car, and I baked a hell of a big pie shell. And I baked that moose turd in as slick as you please. And I cribbed it with my thumbs, and laid strips of dough across it, & garnished it with a sprig of parsley, a little paprika. It was beautiful; poety on a plate. And I served it up for dessert, waiting for the first hint of a complaint. Well, this giant dude comes in, about 5 foot 40; I mean he was big. Throwed himself down like a fool on a stool. Picked up his fork. Took a big bite of that moose turd pie. Well, he threw down his fork, and he let out a bellow, and he yelled.. "My God! That's Moose Turd Pie! ... It's Good, Though!"

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bert
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 01:07 PM

catsPaw.
For the Moose turd pie story, straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak go here

Bert.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: gargoyle
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 10:50 AM

Please inform the dear laugh cat how you southern folk cook your goobers.

She probably assumes them to be roasted in the manner of the civilized world.

They are not. With your style of preparation goobers is a most appropriate term.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 10:23 AM

Eat, dammit, eat!! What's the matter with this stupid keyboard?

Subject: Nothing to do with new pix ...
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 10:20 AM

And east plenty of peanuts for really unusual jewellery!

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 08:59 AM

Bill---Well, I ain't sure how I missed it, but let's hear the Moose Turd Pie story. Thanks Bill for the info too.

Kat---You could take up some of this in your jewelry design. I've seen Pigeon Poop Pins too. Suitable comment is lacking. Also, if you're taking lasix, I assure you, you WILL be a P-Nut!

catspaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bert
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 08:46 AM

It seems that Bill in A is speechless

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill in Alabama
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 08:23 AM

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 07:56 AM

It occurs to me that if the Confederate soldiers had been as allergic to peanuts as people seem to be today, the Civil War would have been over a lot sooner!

Steve

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Banjer
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 05:46 AM

Goober Peas! Yes, Kat, they are peanuts and that song is sung at a lot of reenactments. Goobers are still popular here in the sunny South. According to the book, "Singing Soldiers, A History Of The Civil War In Song" compiled by Paul Glass, the song was written by P. Pintar, Esq., music by P. Nutt, Esq. (I just copy it like it says, I didn't make that one up!)

Part of his commentary says; "One way of passing the time, when not on the march or at drill, was to get together around the campfire and enjoy some informal singing. This delightful Confederate song has a spontaneity and simplicity with that spirit of songmaking and rhyme that lets the mind forget the orders, the dust, and the blistering feet.

Mistaken for Pete Seeger! What an honor and a privilige that would be! Would but that I could play like him so that mistake were possible! Folks have refered to my banjo as a deadly weapon, so yes, I could well be there.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 03:56 AM

Sorry, Skarpi! If you read anything of mine that doesn't make sense, it's probably a joke. If yu read a joke of mine, it probably doesn't make sense. Also, see my other apologies to people of other nationalities - it's a good job I never go a broad for my holidays!

Steve

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Mudjack
Date: 24 Jun 99 - 01:03 AM

Your'e right Banjer.... We are posted at the post office, FBI's Most Unwanted List. But being a subscriber to Sing Out magazine for all these years, I'm sure my name shows up in the FBI Files as suspicious, subversive, dangerous and armed with a guitar and bad songs.
If you use "Banjer" for a name, they think you might be Pete Seeger and yes , your'e a suspect of sorts.
Mj

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 09:28 PM

Did anyone else sing the old song, in school, I think it was supposed to be from the Civil War or War of the Rebellion if you're a Yankee. Anyway it had the following words, "Goobers, goobers, eating goober peas. Goodness! How delicious! eating goober peas!" Supposedly "goober peas" were peanuts....so.....does that make you a P-Nut, 'Spaw???**BG**

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Banjer
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 07:31 PM

I haven't heard that story, but (and this is for real) my wife has a pair of moose drop earings, made from actual moose droppings. They were brought to her by a friend(?) of hers from one of their trips to Maine.
A 'goober' finalist? Damn I do travel in the better circles, don't I?

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 06:58 PM

well, 'spaw..it all depends on how clever/industrious the WebMeister (oohhh!! ME??) is..you can't easily put a link from every page to every other page, but there 'should' be a 'base' page where you have either thumbnail pics or a list of names, and I started out doing approximately that, but the needs of the Mudcat don't fit exactly with the 'fill in the blanks' template that I am working with, and I simply have not gotten into the learning curve far enough to do it the more elegant way...

for one thing, our album, like Topsy, just sort of grows...I made a page of thumbnails, but in otder to add to it, I have to re-do the whole thumbnail page......and to put more than 3 links on a page, I have to hide them in the text beside the pictures...and I grouped it first by geography, but there are more of us in some places than others...and as it gets further along, it is more difficult to re-sort...and this is a BUSY summer..*grin*...I am in my workshop turning wood in every spare moment...

(I keep hinting for some clever, knowlegeable person to take this away from me and do it right...but Mudcatters are known for being pretty smart *wink*)

but, you are right, it need some polishing and re-arranging, and I will try to do something about it...if you go to the first page, you will find some links which get you into it a ways, but don't link to the newest pages...I will go look and see if I can at least provide a path that will get you to everyone if you come in at the 'main' page...

(just a thought...do you know Bruce Phillips story about 'Moose Turd Pie'? *evil grin*)

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 06:28 PM

Hey Bill----I gotta' question. Being a complete cyber-Bozo, this is really probably not even an issue with anyone else, but I have never met, been introduced to, or in any way known Jack Shit.

Is there a way to get from one page to another? I mean if I'm checking out Skarpi, how do I get to the page with Helen or katlaughing? Or say I want to view my own mug and then want to see you and Rick at his concert (include Banj and you have the finalists for the "Goober" poster child--4 incredible goobers there) can I get from one to the other without coming back to the forum and using the link in the appropriate thread?

catspaw (goober finalist)

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: skarpi
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 04:38 PM

Jab, I thought so.

bless skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: LEJ
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 12:40 PM

Skarpi- In English, we call that phrase a "play on words". The old saying is Tomorrow never comes." Steve was making a joke about your band never coming to the performance.

LEJ

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: skarpi Iceland
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 08:32 AM

Steve, where do this saying come from?.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 08:14 AM

Skarpi, I have to say you look a lot different in the photo than you do in the threads! I'm sure Tamóra always turn up for your gigs, but there's an old saying that "Tamóra never comes"!

Steve (I don't even look like my photo!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Banjer
Date: 23 Jun 99 - 06:35 AM

Yes Skarpi, a good looking group you have assembled and I bet they sound every bit as good as they look! That is a nice bar they have there.
Mudjack, I think I have seen your picture somwhere before! I fmemory serves me correctly it was hanging right next to mine at our local post office some time ago!
The Mudcat family album is building very nicely. We are a good looking group, are we not?
Thanks, Bill, for your time and efforts in bringing us all together.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: skarpi
Date: 22 Jun 99 - 05:13 PM

thank you charles, but we do not have much sun at the moment, its been rain for almost four weeks now. I think I had enough off rain. If you see something out of the picture I am glad, this picture was taken at Café Akureyri In Iceland.

Kat you are doing well in your Icelandic, I will send exsambles on the other thread.

and bill not worry I forgive you, god bless you all skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 22 Jun 99 - 02:20 PM

Hey, Skarpi, I think the picture of that fabric is a holy icon--if I squint tightly and skoonch my head to the side slightly and let my imagination run away with me, I see an angel swimming (possibly trying to get from Greenland to the sunnier clime of Iceland). o<[]:o)))ooo --seed

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 09:30 PM

Hey, BillD. Thanks! This is just great! Bill, with the banjo, definitely looks like a serious picker! Finally get to see who Mudjack is and a Mudcat T-shirt, too! Nice!

Skarpi, don't know how to say it in Icelandic, but you guys look great AND that is a beautiful looking bar! I will attempt to repeat what you were teaching on the other thread, but suspect there is a difference for gender. Here goes (without the special accent marks):

Eg heiti Kat og er fra Amerika!

How's that?

Laughingly....Kat

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 08:49 PM

awww...skarpi!! I have no idea how I managed to get it all wrong!!..I will go change it on the page soon!...just careless in my old age I guess...*sigh*..You may call ME "Bull" ;>)

*remember, Bill ****Skarpi****

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 08:35 PM

If you look well at the picture you can see a blue rose or a flower, try to look well and you will see the same picture I did.

and Bill my name is Skarpi not scarpi, but I forgive you this and thank you for your work, it went well.

god bless you skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 08:28 PM

sorry I forgot an " I " in were do I fit in.

bless skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: skarpi
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 08:25 PM

Thank you boys. About the three-D-effect I do not know how this happent, but it is a good one.

About the band TAMÓRA, this band is a tradi. band only, we play only Irish music, exept few from Novia scotia.

Instrument are, banjo,guitar,mandolin with the egg shape,tin flute and a flute,bodhrán,accordian and bass.

The members, from left to right- Siggi is the brother of Jónella (the girl) and Óðinn is her husband and Helgi witch is to the right is Óðinn father so were do fit in??.

Well I made this band, thatis what I did.

Maybe I will send some pictures, bless skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: LEJ
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 06:10 PM

Good looking group Scarpi! And the Guinness in front of you looks good,too!

LEJ

Subject: RE: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 06:04 PM

Thanks Bill. I've been staring and squinting for two hours at scarpi's fabric, but I can't get the three -D effect!

Subject: Mudcat album..new pics 6/21..2:30p.m. EST-USA
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jun 99 - 02:49 PM

ok, here are a couple more...Mudjack sent one in his Mudcat tee-shirt. Bill in Alabama had a page to himself, so I put Mudjack there..seems like good company!

Mudjack and Bill in Alabama

also..here is the picture scarpi sent from Iceland...much reduced, but still nice!...scarpi and his band Tamóra

thanks, scarpi, and don't worry, it worked fine)

(for those who wonder, the original was 664,000 bytes, and was 4638 x 3316 as compare to the 800 by 600 or 640x480 we often see..I can deal with this by reducing the size, but if you have the facilities, you can control what gets posted rather than trusting me..*grin*)...the best size is 30,000-80,000 bytes depending on content and no larger than 800 x 600, but don't fret about it..)