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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 23 Jan 09 - 04:54 PM Jaysus, Hubster, don't get all stupid on us; the fact that he is willing to be transparent about things does not mean he will answer any question asked at any time. Just because Bush used evasion as a means of covering up a long chain of substantive falsehoods does not mean that Obama is doing so. By all means call him on it if you find some factual instance of his being deceitful. I am sure you will spot it if so, being an admirer of an expert. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 23 Jan 09 - 04:42 PM Bush has left the Whithouse! Did anyone think to count the silverware? Stephen Lee |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: goatfell Date: 23 Jan 09 - 10:44 AM aye they are called in America republicans |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: kendall Date: 23 Jan 09 - 09:09 AM I'm taking bets on the political leanings of Politico. 2 to 1 says they are a right wing gang of idiologs who are not willing to cut Obama any slack. He has been president 3 days and already they are circling like vultures. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: goatfell Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:22 AM the words I really want read is BUsh has left the planet |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:18 AM ....and what's this I hear about...... transparency? Sounds a lot like lip service to me Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST Date: 22 Jan 09 - 06:24 PM Bobert, Again...no sour grapes here but what I'd like to know that with all of the former Clinton appointees again running things in DC, what happens to your "progressive" movement? Obama's been anything but since the election. Just wondering. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,goatfell Date: 22 Jan 09 - 01:53 PM I'm Glad but then another one has got in, but he'll be back |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: kendall Date: 22 Jan 09 - 08:34 AM Guilt by association? Is a name that ends in a vowel an indication of bad blood? What about Rudolph Guliani? Mario Cuomo? Galileo? Rossini? and that scoundrel, Leonardo DaVinci? I came from a long line of drunks and no goodnicks; does that make me one? How anyone can miss the moron is beyond me. 911, Katrina, Iraq, spying on Americans and the collapse of the financial system. Everything he has ever touched has turned to shit! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bobert Date: 22 Jan 09 - 08:12 AM The grapes get sourer with every psoting, Hubster... You really don't have a clue just how much a partisan "true believer" you sound, do you??? You and folks like you what is wrong with America... Bitterness has consumed you... It must suck to be you, Hub... I truely feel pity for your miserable little soul... Really... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 22 Jan 09 - 07:59 AM "On Election Day, she patrolled the polling stations. Fiercely tribal, Anunciata served as her husband's chief enforcer and had a long memory for transgressions. "No one could say a word against him," says D'Alesandro. (Family legend holds that Anunciata once slugged a mouthy poll worker.) "With my mother," D'Alesandro told The Baltimore Sun in 2006, "there was no forgiving." I guess that would have made her "The Godmother"? Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 09 - 11:15 PM Once before, pdq asserts the crime connections of "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro Jr. Just as before I have not found such an allegation nor has pdq given such links. I did find this - and let me say that if all the gender specific identifiers were changed to the male form my guess is that most of the men here would be admiring. "If there's one thing "Little Nancy" D'Alesandro learned early, it was the importance of math. Born March 26, 1940, she was the youngest child of Thomas "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro Jr., an insurance salesman turned politician who was teaching his tots how to count votes while their peers were still immersed in the exploits of Dick and Jane. A lifelong denizen of Baltimore's Little Italy, Big Tommy was elected to Maryland's House of Delegates at 21, followed by five terms in Congress and three as mayor of Baltimore. "During Nancy's youth, the D'Alesandro household revolved around her father's political life. "He set the tune, and we danced to it," says Thomas D'Alesandro III, Nancy's eldest brother, who also served as Baltimore's mayor. That tune was combative, pragmatic, and personal. The D'Alesandro home operated like a field office, with the children serving as auxiliary staff. Constituents streamed through the door starting at 10 a.m., and whoever was manning the front desk--a post at which every child served several hours a week starting at age 13--handled requests ranging from finding a family public housing to bailing someone's husband out of jail. It was quite the education, says D'Alesandro, Pelosi's brother. "We dealt with human nature in the raw." "A staunch Catholic and New Deal populist, Big Tommy conferred on his offspring a sense of society's obligation to the poor and powerless, enduring themes in his daughter's politics. But he also schooled them in the nuts and bolts, the transactional nature of the game. His career characterized by hard- fought races and endless vote-scrounging, Big Tommy was forever juggling the demands of the Poles, Germans, Irish, Czechs, Jews, and Italians in his district. Constituent service became his calling card, and Nancy and her brothers helped maintain a "favor file" on everyone for whom their father had ever found a job or served a hot meal. (Nancy's mom kept pots of stew and pasta sauce simmering at all hours to feed petitioners.) The operation also kept scrupulous count of how many votes it had-- and needed--from each precinct, block, ethnic group, union, to win an election. "Make sure you have the votes" was drilled into the D'Alesandro children's heads. "Nancy absorbed subtler lessons as well, including how a smart woman could amass power. At the core of Big Tommy's operation was Nancy's formidable mother, Anunciata, one of those women who, born to a different age, would have ruled outright. Smart and ambitious, Anunciata became Baltimore's first female auctioneer in the 1920s. But, when the company wanted to move her to New York, her parents refused. "She was from a very cloistered Italian family who thought working downtown was a sin," recalls D'Alesandro. "So, instead, the fetching Anunciata married a promising young go-getter from right across Albemarle Street, bore him six sons and one daughter, and threw herself into making her husband a success. She and her "moccasin network" of ladies knew everyone in town and what was happening on every block. She figured out the city's bureaucracies and whom to call to get a problem fixed. On Election Day, she patrolled the polling stations. Fiercely tribal, Anunciata served as her husband's chief enforcer and had a long memory for transgressions. "No one could say a word against him," says D'Alesandro. (Family legend holds that Anunciata once slugged a mouthy poll worker.) "With my mother," D'Alesandro told The Baltimore Sun in 2006, "there was no forgiving." More |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: pdq Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:43 PM Please, Hubs...don't blame that creepy critter on that once nice western state of California. Nancy Pelosi is actually the daughter of "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro, the mayor of Baltimore and head of a crime family. Her brother was "Little Tommy" D'Alesandro who suceeded his daddy as Baltimore mayor. Nancy Pelosi has deep roots in real stinky stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:31 PM "She's just a short, shrill, little woman from California." Wow. Nice to know that you're not sexist. lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:22 PM Sour grapes....nah. Am I saddened by the exit of W? Sure I am. But no sour grapes. It's more like relief to sit back and see what Obama can do with a congress with an 8% approval rating. So far it's just been a bunch of executive orders. Or in other words...circumventing the system. But we saw that during the campaign. So no surprise there. It seems that he's almost afraid to go up against Pelosi. He shouldn't be. She's just a short, shrill, little woman from California. So sour grapes? nope....none here. I'm grown up enough to say that Obama is my president,too, which is more than some of you guys were willing to say whenever W. was in office. I hope he does well and can bring the change that is needed in this country. But what I really want to know is this......When will he develop the cahonas needed to lead the country and not shrivel under the pressure that Pelosi assumes that she has? (Not much with an 8% approval rating. She's just the one that's holding the gavel in the bully pulpit at the moment.) That's what will be interesting and fun to watch. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 21 Jan 09 - 08:20 AM Well - I watched the ceremony on CNN. One of those seminal moments you don't want to miss (IMNSOHO). Like the first man on the moon, Diana's funeral and Nelson Mandela leaving Robben Island. I still remember the rotating globe that replaced all TV programmes here in the UK the day Kennedy was asassinated. (ringing my first girlfriend - that's where I was - since you ask) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Mr Happy Date: 21 Jan 09 - 06:49 AM A parting gesture? By George W. Bush I think we all agree, the past is over This is still a dangerous world It쳌fs a world of madmen and uncertainty And potential mential losses Rarely is the question asked Is our children learning? Will the highways of the Internet become more few? How many hands have I shaked? They misunderestimate me I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity I know that the human being and the fish can coexist Families is where our nation finds hope Where our wings take dream Put food on your family! Knock down the tollbooth! Vulcanise society! Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher! http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/piehigher.asp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Alice Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:00 AM Adios, Mr. Ex POTUS, don't let the... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:23 PM The job won't be easy, given the ditch we're in, but I wish Obama well. I also was amused by some commentary today when Obama was musing about those who run for President. Paraphrasing, he said that someone must be a little insane to aspire to be leader of the free world. I like his sense of awareness and I hope he doesn't lose it. We don't need a celebrity in the White House now. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ron Davies Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:11 PM As usual Bobert cuts right to the heart of the topic. SH's post is perfect sour grapes---nothing more--therefore it's plainly not reasonable to expect any sense from it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bobert Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:01 PM Go peddle yer papers, Hubster... No one buys into yer sour grapes crap... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:55 PM A jaded prognostication, SH, and as far as I see, unfounded in fact. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ron Davies Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:54 PM Politics is always "the art of the possible". It is singularly stupid to talk about Pelosi as one "who will chase her own agenda". There will obviously be compromise--even within the Democratic party-- but that just shows the intelligence both of our new president, who knows how to marshall his forces to accomplish what he wants to get done, and the intelligence of Pelosi, who also knows political realities. It is actually a very good sign that Obama seems to be willing to reach out to people all across the political spectrum. "who will chase her own agenda" only shows the poorly hidden frustration of the poster, whose severely flawed champions and narrow attitudes---amply on view on Mudcat--have been soundly defeated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: artbrooks Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:19 PM Nancy Pelosi hardly controls Congress, nor does she have freedom to "chase her own agenda". The House of Representatives is only half of Congress, and has always gone for more radical legislation - regardless of which party was in power. However, even if Franken finally wins in Minnesota, the Republicans (with 41% of the seats in the Senate) can still block any bill they seriously disapprove of through the power of the filibuster. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 20 Jan 09 - 06:42 PM He may be out of the White House but I think that you'll be severely disappointed at the amount of change that won't happen with Obama. Pelosi has staked out her claim on the congress and will chase her own agenda which is different that what Obama has been speaking about. So we'll have a president butting heads with the speaker of the house. Sounds like big change to me. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bill D Date: 20 Jan 09 - 06:16 PM He's gone? He's really gone? Can we sweep up now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: dick greenhaus Date: 20 Jan 09 - 03:04 PM Only remembered. Only remembered Only remembered for what we have done.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 20 Jan 09 - 01:18 PM Congratulations to all those who survived. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: artbrooks Date: 20 Jan 09 - 01:10 PM Oh frabjulous day, kaloo kalay!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Jan 09 - 12:51 PM I have some old ice skates that I would have gladly donated, had I managed to get it together. Free at last! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 20 Jan 09 - 09:49 AM Especially when the fence has their tongues. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: kendall Date: 20 Jan 09 - 09:38 AM If I had known in time that this shoe thing was going to happen, I would have donated a pair of mine to the cause. Charlie, "heels" don't do any "sole" searching. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Wesley S Date: 20 Jan 09 - 09:38 AM Miss Manners: 'Mr. President' was good enough for Washington Miss Manners by Judith Martin United Feature Syndicate, Inc. Posted: 01/19/2009 12:10:00 AM PST WHEN THE Founding Fathers came up with the title "Mr. President," they thought they had devised the ultimate in casual forms of official address. In contrast to the sycophantic titles used toward European monarchs, which they considered unbefitting a republic of equals, this would give the person holding the highest office no grander an honorific than any ordinary citizen. George Washington had a different approach. "His High and Mightiness" had rather a nice ring to it, he ventured to suggest. However, ridicule carried the day, as Miss Manners notices that it so often does. And when the first president left office, he made a concession to the American taste for simplicity by decreeing that he would henceforth no longer carry the title of president, not even as a mere courtesy. He chose his former title, General Washington. Only a few decades ago, calling nonintimates by their first names was intended as a slight. African-Americans and subordinate employees, particularly servants but including female employees in professional life, were so addressed, even in such formal situations as courtrooms. When replying, they were expected to use "Mr." or professional titles with surnames. But apparently we have also been growing more pompous. We now have four living former presidents addressing one another as Mr. President, and a citizenry worried that it would be disrespectful to follow George Washington's rule. It is true that the first president's wife was known, in her day, as Lady Washington. Over the years, this evolved into the moniker first lady. But there is no such official title. By our law, the president's wife is a private citizen, although she is given precedence by courtesy. The sitting president should be addressed as Mr. President. His wife is addressed, both in writing and in speaking, as Mrs. Obama. No first name, neither his nor hers, is used. The former president is correctly addressed as Gov. Bush. His wife, who was THE Mrs. Bush when he was president, reverts to being Mrs. George W. Bush, as her mother-in-law became again Mrs. George H. W. Bush after her husband's administration. Similarly, the sitting vice president is the only Mr. Vice President, and his wife is simply Mrs. (or Dr.) Biden. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Rapparee Date: 20 Jan 09 - 09:01 AM Overhead this morning: Laura: George, wake up. We have to go now. George: Don' wanna. L: George! You know we have to go. Now put down Teddy and change out of your jammies. G: Don' wanna. L: Are you looking for another spanking? G: Please??? (A loud thud, like a body being rolled out of the bed and onto the floor.) L: Now get dressed. The Obamas will be here in a few hours. And we're going back to Texas! G: Really? Can I ride my pony and be a cowboy? L: (sighing) Yes, of course. G: Oh BOY! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:31 AM An awful pun, Charlie, but under the circumstances... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:12 AM One of our Maine activists led more than 200 protesters to the White House yesterday where they flung shoes at the fence in their own farewell gesture to Bush. The protest, in dubious taste, resulted in no injuries or arrests. Kennebunkport organizer Jamilla El-Shafei was quite pleased with the results of her act, honoring the Iraqi journalist Mutander Al-Zaidi who succeeded in throwing two of his own shoes at Bush a few weeks ago. Do you suppose the Secret Service is doing some sole-searching today? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 20 Jan 09 - 03:07 AM one of our best political parodists & songwriters felt very low when his favourite target left political life in 1987, but he soon found other targets, as did our cartoonists when Little Johnny (aka Bush's lapdog or Deputy Sheriff) was thrown out in 2007! I'm sure the US comedians will soon find good targets for their commentary. sandra |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Barry Finn Date: 20 Jan 09 - 02:40 AM With Bush gone the comedians will now be out of work too. Their job source is being "sourced out", their fodder is now being canned, their insperation has aspired, their co-sponser is being disponded. I'm laughing out loud to myself as I write this, finally the joke is him! They (the comediaans) can now join the rest of US, out of a job, it ain't an easy thought to swallow but that's what it took to get Georgie de-employed. He was going anyway, I know, but couldn't we have deployed him yrs ago, to hell, it would've made things so much more liveable. Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: robomatic Date: 19 Jan 09 - 11:12 PM I think the guy did his best, but I still have a guilty wish........ that the door hit him in the ass on his way out! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bill D Date: 19 Jan 09 - 10:50 PM My gracious! That "Bushwhacked" thread makes me feel like a prophet! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Beer Date: 19 Jan 09 - 10:26 PM J.F.Kennedy,M.L.King, and now Obama. Three great speakers. Two of which have passed on but could make you feel proud. And I'm not an American. Obama has this gift of the gab. As a proud Canadian I wish him strength, health and a lot of luck. He is coming into a situation that most recent Presidents have not had to handle. The most recent president(deliberate small "p",administration including)can be blamed for. I'm not a praying man, use to be, but I think I will say a little one tonight for Obama. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Art Thieme Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:55 PM 2 bushes leaving the white house doesn't quite rival burnham forest coming to dunsinane -- but it'll have to do... ... I'm sure it is for the best--and an eventuality devoutly to be wished!!!!!!!!! Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Jeri Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:19 PM Your crabs never got anybody killed. Maybe close, I don't know. I think there will be a lot of happy people tomorrow night, many folks with a wait-and-see skepticism and a few pissed off untra-conservatives and racist assholes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Peace Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:10 PM I felt much the same as most of you when I finally got rid of the crabs! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:05 PM Amazing to go back eight years and see how clearly people saw right through him. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: katlaughing Date: 19 Jan 09 - 07:39 PM Just for historical record, I would like to post a link to the very first Bushwhacked Thread. It seems odd to me, now, to realise the majority of our time on Mudcat has been during the realm of George the Idiot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Cool Beans Date: 19 Jan 09 - 07:23 PM Good riddance! Obama feels like the president of all the Americans. Bush felt like president of only the morono-Americans. It's been the closest I ever hope to feel I'm living under a dictatorship. Yes, I was free to think and say and write whatever I wanted but the country was going to hell deliberately and millions of us were powerless to stop it--until last November. Hee hee. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: katlaughing Date: 19 Jan 09 - 06:13 PM GOOD!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 19 Jan 09 - 04:30 PM " WASHINGTON (CNN) -- On Inauguration Day, there's one scene at the White House that won't be playing out exactly as it has during past transitions: the traditional moving of the outgoing first family's belongings. President Bush walks out of the White House Oval Office on January 10. President Bush walks out of the White House Oval Office on January 10. Anita McBride, chief of staff to first lady Laura Bush, tells CNN that the Bushes have moved almost all of their belongings out of the White House ahead of schedule. "There won't be ... the moving trucks for the Bushes coming here," McBride said, adding, "The only things really left for President and Mrs. Bush are their personal belongings and luggage that they'll take that day." McBride said Mrs. Bush directed residence staff early -- in the summer of 2008 -- to prepare the White House for the personal transition. "It's probably the librarian in her," McBride said of Mrs. Bush, a former librarian. "Maybe we've got a bit of a Dewey Decimal system of move-out process, but that certainly made it easier for the residence staff, and they very much appreciate it," McBride said. The actual clearing out of the Bushes' belongings began over the summer, McBride says, when many items were packed and taken to Crawford, Texas. Then, during the Christmas holiday, the Bushes moved their personal things out of Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland, according to McBride. That means on Inauguration Day, while President Bush and Mrs. Bush, along with President-elect Obama and his family, are at the Capitol, staff in the White House residence will have more time to unpack and prepare the Obamas' personal belongings...." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Wesley S Date: 19 Jan 09 - 01:34 PM On a recent PBS documentary about Groucho Marx they asked him about Richard Nixon moving into his neighborhood. His reply was - better he lives here than in the White House. |
