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BS: Bush Has Left the White House...

Ebbie 19 Jan 09 - 12:51 PM
ClaireBear 19 Jan 09 - 12:21 PM
Alice 19 Jan 09 - 12:10 PM
Skivee 19 Jan 09 - 11:57 AM
kendall 19 Jan 09 - 11:52 AM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Jan 09 - 11:20 AM
Mr Red 19 Jan 09 - 11:11 AM
Bill D 19 Jan 09 - 10:53 AM
SINSULL 19 Jan 09 - 09:40 AM
SINSULL 19 Jan 09 - 09:40 AM
Uncle_DaveO 19 Jan 09 - 09:11 AM
SINSULL 19 Jan 09 - 08:36 AM
Geoff the Duck 19 Jan 09 - 05:37 AM
GUEST,Al 19 Jan 09 - 03:49 AM
Ebbie 19 Jan 09 - 03:37 AM
Barry Finn 19 Jan 09 - 01:03 AM
michaelr 19 Jan 09 - 12:47 AM
Stilly River Sage 19 Jan 09 - 12:24 AM
katlaughing 19 Jan 09 - 12:10 AM
Little Hawk 18 Jan 09 - 11:11 PM
Alice 18 Jan 09 - 10:08 PM
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GUEST,bankley 18 Jan 09 - 09:20 PM
Bobert 18 Jan 09 - 07:48 PM
kendall 18 Jan 09 - 07:43 PM
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Little Hawk 18 Jan 09 - 07:30 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 12:51 PM

Originally, the new president was installed in March..


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: ClaireBear
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 12:21 PM

Another reason for not installing the new president immediately is that the newly elected president needs time to assemble (and get approved by Congress) an advisory staff and get up to speed on intelligence and other information that is not available to a candidate, but IS available to an elected president.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Alice
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 12:10 PM

Geoff, the popular vote counting is not the end of the election process.
The electoral votes are certified by Congress in January.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Skivee
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 11:57 AM

Dave, running ceremonial flags up and down poles is a time-honored tradition in our little capital city.
There are folks at the Capital building who do nothing but run flags up and down all day long. They generally are distributed through the offices of senators and representatives.
It would take scant seconds to replace the flag that Bush will be getting tomorrow


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: kendall
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 11:52 AM

He's off to Camp David for his 189th visit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 11:20 AM

I imagine they'd they change flags at the time the new bloke swears in. Presumably he isn't actually president until that happens, so the day starts with one president and ends with another.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 11:11 AM

Is it say to come out to play now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 10:53 AM

The UK does the coronation of a King or Queen with WAY more ceremony than this! Not as often, perhaps.....

The ceremony here is supposed to show the common folks sharing the day with the winner of the election...

and sure, they 'could' move boxes the day after...but the appointments wouldn't be ready and plans for changover take time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:40 AM

and look what harry is up to! LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:40 AM

You guys inflict your royalty on us all the time. We can inflict our election on you once every four years.

Diana alone was worth 3 bush tenures.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 09:11 AM

I don't understand how that flag thing is supposed to work.

If each ex gets the flag from BOTH ends of his tenure, presumably the next incumbent doesn't get his inaugural flag because his predecessor got it upon his departure.   Or, alternatively, he doesn't get his going-away flag because his successor has to get it.

Have I missed something?

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 08:36 AM

I hope someone took an inventory of national treasures. No telling what he and cronies will help themselves to next.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 05:37 AM

One I don't understand is, if they can move everything out and a new set in within 5 hours, why couldn't hey do it all on the morning after the votes were counted? Why do you wait a couple of months during which the unwanted President still keeps full power to do damage to your economy and World peace?
As a Brit, I say "good Riddance to Bush" and "Welcome Obama" and wish it could all have happened years earlier.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: GUEST,Al
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 03:49 AM

Well George, thanks for everything. You made the world a much safer place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 03:37 AM

Little Hawk, how is the incoming/outgoing transition handled? In the US they have made it an art. In the approximately five hours they have available they pack and haul out one set of tenants and haul in and unpack the other, down to the last box. The new tenant comes 'home' that night to an orderly house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 01:03 AM

Hopefully once he's gone he'll be seen & heard from as often as Elvis.
"The ex has left the building", don't let the door slap you on the ass on your way out"!

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: michaelr
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 12:47 AM

Little Hawk, I could not agree more. Having just watched most of the hours-long wank fest at the Mall, all I can say is Obama better get serious tomorrow. Pomp and circumstance and Pete Seeger don't mix.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 12:24 AM

Interesting move, that the chief usher put into place with the flags. A nice touch, for whomever is president.

For those of us who never supported Bush, who opposed him even in his home state of Texas when he (and Rove) started his political career by playing dirty tricks to unseat the very popular Ann Richards, he has been a troll inhabiting the Nation's House. Marking time and trashing our government and our reputation. The new resident is the complete opposite, an intellectual, a scholar, a poet, filled with grace.

The hopes of Americans today may be too much for any one person to accomplish, but to simply see the back of Bush will be enough for this week.

SRS


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From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Jan 09 - 12:10 AM

I, too, heard on the news that he was decamping to Camp David. I also read that Obama's schedule on Inauguration Day includes "having coffee" with Bush, as noted above.

I think it's a sorry employer who doesn't help with moving expenses, though!:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 11:11 PM

What an incredible fuss it all is! I mean the entire thing Americans do in regards to their presidency. The primaries, the campaign itself, the inauguration, the White House and all that goes with it, absolutely extraordinary amount of fuss.

It's not like that in most other countries, if in any. Perhaps it is like that in certain bizarre dictatorships such as North Korea or China (the amount of procedural and ceremonial fuss over "the leader", I mean), but not anywhere else except the USA.

It's way over the top.

Trouble is, if you live there and are used to it...well, then you take it as "normal". ;-)

It's the great imperial presidency of the world. Nothing else comes even close. You would have to live in Canada and see how low key a matter a change of government is here...and then you'd get what I mean.

We do not think our prime minister is the Father of the nation. We think he's just another politician in a suit...strictly temporary...not that big a deal, really. Small potatoes. Most Canadians don't even know what the official residence of the prime minister of Canada looks like and they don't care. What does it look like? Well, it looks like a house. A nice house on a nice piece of property, on a residential street with some trees, period. It does not look like the Acropolis, the Taj Mahal, or the White House.

No wonder your elections are so long and overblown...after all, you're electing "God" for the next four years, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Alice
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 10:08 PM

Finally.
Good riddance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: DougR
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 10:02 PM

No, Kendall, I think you are not correct. I think he spent more weekends there than that.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: GUEST,bankley
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 09:20 PM

He'd look good in Gitmo in orange


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:48 PM

Glad he ain't goin' back...


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: kendall
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:43 PM

Again? he was there 189 times already!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:39 PM

Well, Amos... Word on the street is that he's gonna ride out his last two days in Camp David...


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:30 PM

Too late for getting an autograph, then? Dang!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:30 PM

Um, Bobez, man, this is from the Washington Times:

"Moving presidents in and out of the White House is a ritual akin to the inaugural ceremony itself - except the action occurs out of sight.

What takes most families days to accomplish happens within a few hours. Between noon, when the incoming president takes the oath of office, and 5 p.m., which is roughly when the inaugural parade ends, the furnishings and personal effects of two families will have been moved out and moved into the six-floor 132-room mansion - a scripted transformation done with the precision of a military maneuver.

Around 10 a.m., the outgoing president and family gather in the State Dining Room with the White House resident staff to exchange farewells and presents. It's an emotional scene, relates former chief curator Betty C. Monkman, "saying goodbye and wondering what the future will be."

A tradition begun under former chief usher Gary Walters' watch is to give the outgoing president two flags: the one flying over the White House when he took the oath of office and the one flying on inaugural morning. These are boxed in wood from the original building - renovated during President Truman's time - and at least one usually ends up in a future presidential library.

Next, the outgoing president receives the incoming president as well as the Congressional Escort Committee - a bipartisan group - which will formally escort both men to the Capitol. The outgoing and incoming vice president and their spouses arrive, and all go to the Blue Room for coffee and pastries for what will be the outgoing chief executive's last "taste" of the house he has called home for the past eight years.

"Until President Bush and his family depart from the North Portico, the house is theirs," Mr. Walters says. "Sometimes family members - guests - are slow to depart, but only after they leave does the transformation occur."

By the time the inaugural ceremony ends at the Capitol, moving vans will have made their way through traffic to the White House South Portico out of view of the cheering crowds lining the streets on the north and west sides. The vans are chosen by the incoming family and paid for by them.

When the new presidential family and their guests finish watching festivities from an elaborately constructed reviewing stand, they retire to eat, relax and mingle with friends and relatives prior to the evening's succession of formal balls. Only when the Obamas enter the North Portico after the parade does the mansion officially become their home. The packing boxes will be gone and everything will have been put away."


What are they smoking that they don't know what you know??


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:20 PM

Oh, excellent. I never thought I would see the day!!

A


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Subject: BS: Bush Has Left the White House...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jan 09 - 07:15 PM

Okay, he may have two days left but he's outta the White House forever...

Hooray!!!

B~


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