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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:57 AM But having already composed and typed the above I was today by coincidence sent the following U Tube link that I feel we should all have a look at. Over 8 million people have viewed it already and the statistics make chilling reading if, like me, you are of non-Muslim persuasion. And whilst I am prepared to believe that the piece is simply white non-Muslim propaganda and scare mongering to boot; it should still be taken seriously insofar as my own experiences here in Halifax (the fact that we have a Church of England school where Muslims outnumber non Muslims) prove that the piece has substance. Your comments would be warmly welcomed. So please do take a snifty at …….. this[which VIC deliberately left out] in my opinion,does alter how you have attempted to portray Joe. Ruth, Vic ,he is not saying,that he believes the statistics,he is saying that they are taking a fact and exaggerating it. if you have stastics that prove that in England,that Muslim familes,ARE smaller or the same, or marginally larger ,it is important to find them ,and put them up here,so that the truth can be seen. if anyone here does not believe that unless we attempt to encourage integration, England could have serious racial problems,are burying their heads in the sand. I do not believe that Joe thinks immigrants should be sent out of the country,[he doe not say that , but that is what the BNP say]. Joe, poses a question that needs to be adressed,what does England do with an increasing Asian population,the answer in my opinion is for the government to encourage the English people and the immigrants themselves to integrate. if England does not have an increasing population of Asians,facts anf figures need to be produced to counter this claim. ,Vic, what you have done to Joe,by editing important parts of his letter,is unfair and a smear.,you quoted parts of his letter out of context,that is a fact. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Silas Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:46 AM Ruth is spot on , agree with every word. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Ruth Archer Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:27 AM I've read it. Despite its decrying of the BNP, it's racist. Anyone who is daft enough to believe in the twisted statistics produced by white supremacists, including the BNP, really wants a word with themselves. The BNP talk about whites in Britain being a minority in just a few decades. The sorts of headlines the scream out from their propaganda would lead you to believe that Britain must be at least 40, maybe 45% non-white at this point. Yet what is the reality? Britain is 92% white. Oooh, lock up your daughters! The dark tide of immigration is coming to flood us all! Yes, certain parts of the country experience more immigration than others, but using such anecdotal situations as the one described as evidence of a wide-reaching "problem" is very dangerous indeed. My daughter's school of 1200, for example, has about a dozen non-white students from what I can tell. Anyone who perpetuates this kind of propaganda really wants to seriously think about their motivation for doing so. "I hate the BNP, but..." is as transparent a statement as "I'm not racist, but..." "I'm wondering, if this trend continues, just what are we going to do with all the forthcoming taxi drivers, Asian restaurateurs and corner shops?" is a racist quip no matter how you slice it. In fact, statistically the children of Asian immigrants are far more likely to do well at school and attend university, because their communities value and support the education of their children - so your friend might be better off asking what we are going to do with all those doctors, pharmacists and solicitors. What all this has to do with the Boring Folk Day I have no idea, but life is rather alarmingly imitating art. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Vic Smith Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:21 AM Dick, Thank you for posting the link to A response to: Muslim Demographics. It is a great counter argument to the nonsense that Joe Stead was advocating in the link from his "Ramblings". (interestingly the most recent reaction to this video as I write this is from HoffBridge which may be of interest to Richard Bridge amongst others.) Thank you also for posting the context of the comment from Joe. But answer me two things:- 1] Do you really think the entire quote shows Joe in a better light? You will have to explain how it makes his comments about Muslims more defensible. At the moment, I fail to see this. 2] Why would anyone want to defend a piece of writing that advocates a video that - in Dick Miles' description - is "the rantings of white Racists." |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Play.Ford Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:19 AM Words will be said on E-Ceilidh Harrumph! |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 16 Jun 09 - 05:51 AM Vic,Here was THE WHOLE [WITHOUT YOUR EDITING]of JOES statement on the subject of Muslims.before anyone else calls Joe a racist.please read what he said in its entirety. Joe Stead – The Ramblings of an old Codger – Volume 105 – June 2009 I suppose there are some honest politicians out there somewhere; but I would guess not an awful lot and the recent spate of discoveries that the majority of our Members of Parliament are on the make in a dishonest fashion begs the question; are they dishonest before they enter parliament or does the job simply encourage it? I sometimes wonder (when I've got time to waste) just how politicians think, or indeed if they think at all. Here in Sowerby Bridge the open market has moved home and the vacated area made a perfect car park thus alleviating and lessening car parking problems throughout the town. What did Calderdale Council do? They spent a few thousand of our tax payer's pounds erecting a huge metal fence around the site. It will eventually be a new swimming pool. But in the meantime it's an empty space that could have been used to better effect. Barmpots the lot. So here we are every 5 years or so voting a bunch of partly intelligent no-hopers into office on huge salaries and they find ways of increasing their income in an illegal fashion. Did they not think the house of cards would one day come tumbling down? Obviously not! So they can't be that bright! Just how the electorate will respond remains to be seen. I have a huge fear that there will be a swing to the right and the BNP will benefit. One of the problems about the BNP (other than them being fascists of course) is that at times they quote facts that can only be true; which will attract voters from both Labour and Conservative who would otherwise stay faithful to the main party's. For example – if Muslims and non-Muslims continue to breed at the present rate then the Muslim population will eventually outstrip the non-Muslim population in Great Britain. Already at my wife's old school (a Church of England school please note) the Muslim intake of children now outstrips the non-Muslim children and as a consequence my grand-daughter Jasmine has more Muslims in her class than non Muslim; and I'm wondering, if this trend continues, just what are we going to do with all the forthcoming taxi drivers, Asian restaurateurs and corner shops? But having already composed and typed the above I was today by coincidence sent the following U Tube link that I feel we should all have a look at. Over 8 million people have viewed it already and the statistics make chilling reading if, like me, you are of non-Muslim persuasion. And whilst I am prepared to believe that the piece is simply white non-Muslim propaganda and scare mongering to boot; it should still be taken seriously insofar as my own experiences here in Halifax (the fact that we have a Church of England school where Muslims outnumber non Muslims) prove that the piece has substance. Your comments would be warmly welcomed. So please do take a snifty at …….. Vic Smith,carefully left out part of Joes letter,thus deliberately portraying Joe in a worse light. why? have you attempted to smear Joe Stead,by selectively editing his letter, |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:30 AM Vic. I would suggest that a positive action,would be for those who seriously want to fight fascism,to rate this video 5 stars. it is a response to Muslim demographics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnpJU31HM0&feature=related . apologies for interrupting your humour.,with something so trivial. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Maurice Ring Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:13 AM I notice the women's morris dancers are Knots o' Boring! :-) |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,QWERTY Date: 16 Jun 09 - 03:24 AM I count 6 plays on 'boring' in FOLKSINGERS ARE BORING - 36 if you include the choruses. Now THAT'S boring. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: M.Ted Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:54 PM I must tell you that I am both entertained and amused by all this--and the Mud-e-Ceilidh site is funny too. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Surreysinger Date: 15 Jun 09 - 02:54 PM I've just had a message from Frank who advised me that he has had to post a message up on sTroof forum. It seems that his visitor counter was allied to a website that some had thought was part of the Boring universe. Probably best to see his messages today at sTroof forum alternative universe link I believe that Vic may already have made his way through the warp to visit it, judging from the link he has already provided. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,CupOfTea, at work, no cookies Date: 15 Jun 09 - 02:29 PM I can't believe nobody mentioned that Boring folk has a ready made theme song, but the wryly witty and velvet voiced Andrew Calhoun of Chicago: FOLKSINGERS ARE BORING (Andrew Calhoun) Nobody comes to the coffeehouse, Nobody comes to the coffeehouse, Nobody comes to the coffeehouse, Folksingers are boring. Boring, boring, boring, so boring, Nobody comes to the coffeehouse, Folksingers are boring. First they start some silly song, Try to make you sing along, Always drag it out too long: Folksingers are boring. First they sing about a train, Then they sing another song about a train, Then they sing a song about a train: Folksingers are boring. Folksingers have flabby buns, They all play the same bass runs, They're against the private ownership of handguns: Folksingers are boring. Folksingers are born to lose, They wear old and ratty shoes, Then they try to sing the blues: Then they're really boring. Give us salsa, give us soul, Give us good old rock and roll, Pass the bong and pass the bowl Folksingers are boring. @music @folkmusic Copyright Andrew Calhoun, 1984 filename[ FLKSNGBR BR |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Chris Murray Date: 15 Jun 09 - 02:26 PM Brilliant! |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Vic Smith Date: 15 Jun 09 - 01:52 PM OK, I said that I would not post here again, but I just couldn't resist this one. All those of you who have bought your early tickets for Boring Folk Day has a look at this...... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/borodance/magic-bus.jpg .... and start worrying. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:06 AM Vic. I was not aware that Joe had advocated that video. yes, I agree with you, the video, is the rantings of white Racists. however to counter this sort of nonsense,it is important to make the points I have made[which I hope Joe read]about the importance of INTEGRATION. Since you brought these points up,and attempted to say that I thought this was funny,may I make it clear that what I find amusing in Joes ramblings,are his funnies,an example of which I gave earlier. BAZ parkes,compared him to Bernard Manning,you lumped his humour along with Les Dawson. none of the quotes Joe gave in his funnies,were by either of these Comedians,but included quotes from Groucho Marx and Oscar Wilde. as far as I am concerned their humour[which Joe obviously appreciates] [as I do] has nothing in common with Manning or Dawson. and as I have said I find those quotes much funnier than Lawrence Heath,Borfolk[imo] was vaguely amusing about 20 years ago,but is now as predictable[imo] as three blind mice. but each to their own,so have fun with Lawrence. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: manitas_at_work Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:01 AM Don't make too much of Muslim children attending Church of England schools - they probably have no other choice. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:48 AM Roberto Groan. Yes, I also fell for that old question "do you known that the word 'gullible' isn't in the dictionary?" |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Vic Smith Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:47 AM I'll try again With a heavy heart, with apologies to other users of this forum, and with the promise that this will positively my last posting to this thread, allow me to deal with the points made in the latest posting to this thread Dick Miles. Again, I do not wish to raise the temperature of the debate to the level of insult, so I will endeavour to be factual. Dick's posting is a defence of his long-term friend, Joe Stead. That is admirable. I have probably known Joe longer than Dick; I met him in 1964 when I was at college in South-East London and he came each week to have banjo lessons from a fellow student that I shared with. I liked Joe, went to folk clubs with him, and have always wished him well. I still send him my folk club circular and he still sends me his Ramblings. I have no wish to think badly of an old friend but some of his statements in recent Ramblings have caused me concern and the one that I have quoted above I would consider indefensible as I have already stated. Now Dick says:- I think you have misinterpreted what he is trying to say,which is that there could be a problem in his area which needs to be adressed. I would really like to believe that you are right, Dick. I invited you above to put my quotation from Joe in a better light by placing it in a different context. You have not done this but merely repeat the accusation that I have "misinterpreted" Joe. Now, sadly, I must add further evidence of what I take to be Joe Stead's intention in making the statement which I quoted from him above. Dick, you will have seen this, because like me, he receives Joe's Ramblings. Below the statement that I quoted, Joe goes on to say in the same email please do take a snifty at …….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU What is your opinion of that video that Joe advocates, Dick? To your mind does that that video represent a fair and balanced look the world or does it strike you as being the rantings of an extreme white supremacist group? Or is this another example of me being "selective" or "misrepresenting" Joe? That is the main thrust of my concerns but just for the record. Dick says "it is a complete over reaction to call him a racist,and to compare him to Bernard Manning ….And you will be able to quote where I have made this comparison. Dick says "do you have more knowledge of the local situation than him" No, Dick, like most of us, I only know my own local situation. I do know, however, that I get on very well with the people whose garden backs on to mine, and they – to use one of Joe's phrases – run a corner shop. Like you, Dick, I live in a different country from the one that I was born in. I wish that everyone that moves to England is made as welcome here as I was. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Vic Smith Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:43 AM Interesting.....Could I assure those reading the above posting that I have not been on hallucinatory drugs and that it looked perfectly normal when I checked it in preview mode. Could Mudcat administrators offer an explanation for this? Better still, could they delete it and allow me to post it again |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Vic Smith Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:36 AM With a heavy heart, with apologies to other users of this forum, and with the promise that this will positively my last posting to this thread, allow me to deal with the points made in the latest posting to this thread by Dick Miles. Again, I do not wish to raise the temperature of the debate to the level of insult, so I will endeavour to be factual. Dick’s posting is a defence of his long-term friend, Joe Stead. That is admirable. I have probably known Joe longer than Dick; I met him in 1964 when I was at college in South-East London and he came each week to have banjo lessons from a fellow student that I shared with. I liked Joe, went to folk clubs with him, and have always wished him well. I still send him my folk club circular and he still sends me his Ramblings. I have no wish to think badly of an old friend but some of his statements in recent Ramblings have caused me concern and the one that I have quoted above I would consider indefensible as I have already stated. Now Dick says:- I think you have misinterpreted what he is trying to say,which is that there could be a problem in his area which needs to be adressed. I would really like to believe that you are right, Dick. I invited you above to put my quotation from Joe in a better light by placing it in a different context. You have not done this but merely repeat the accusation that I have “misinterpretedâ€쳌 Joe. Now, sadly, I must add further evidence of what I take to be Joe Stead’s intention in making the statement which I quoted from him above. Dick, you will have seen this, because like me, he receives Joe’s Ramblings. Below the statement that I quoted, Joe goes on to say in the same email please do take a snifty at ….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU What is your opinion of that video that Joe advocates, Dick? To your mind does that that video represent a fair and balanced look the world or does it strike you as being the rantings of an extreme white supremacist group? Or is this another example of me being “selectiveâ€쳌 or “misrepresentingâ€쳌 Joe? That is the main thrust of my concerns but just for the record. Dick says â€쳌it is a complete over reaction to call him a racist,and to compare him to Bernard Manning ….And you will be able to quote where I have made this comparison. Dick says â€쳌do you have more knowledge of the local situation than himâ€쳌 No, Dick, like most of us, I only know my own local situation. I do know, however, that I get on very well with the people whose garden backs on to mine, and they - to use one of Joe’s phrases - run a corner shop. Like you, Dick, I live in a different country from the one that I was born in. I wish that everyone that moves to England is made as welcome here as I was. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Marcus H Garvey Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:34 AM PS - Marcus - What do you call an Italian man with a rubber toe, anyway? Roberto |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:02 AM PS - Marcus - What do you call an Italian man with a rubber toe, anyway? |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:00 AM Why do I get the feeling that any minute now somebody is going to shout out "Mornington Crescent"? |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Chris Green Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:50 AM You could try approaching via Foregreen Fields but I'm told it can be interminable. Maybe coming by way of Iron Mews might be better? |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Ruth Archer Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:29 AM melodeonboy, it all depends what time you're travelling. Heaver Way can be like a car park after 3pm - Hauler Way is less direct, but as it's not a main traffic artery it ought to get you there more quickly. Hope that helps, darling. See you there! Lillian |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Chris Green Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:24 AM Hilarious! This thread, I mean (although the link at the top is funny as well...) |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: melodeonboy Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:56 AM Well, I've already bought my tickets for Boring Folk Day. My old canvas tent and my primus is in the back of the car, and I'm ready to go! What's the best way to get there from Milton Regis? Is it via Rosavallan Dale or Heaver Way and Jonbarley Corner? |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:40 AM What's that expression about "losing the thread"? |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jun 09 - 09:55 PM Vic Smith,examine Joe Steads statement again. I assume he is talking from first hand experience,or do you have more knowledge of the local situation than him.,if you have I would appreciate your details. he appears to be asking a question,that needs to be adressed. my own opinion and answer to the question,would be that serious efforts need to be made,to help immigrants integrate,desire to integrate has to be a two way process. the answer[imo] is not to send them away as the BNP would wish. I think it is a good sign in this particular case that Muslim children are attending a Church of England school,and that a Church of England school,is making an effort to integrate them. the Church of England is the established church in England. I have known Joe Stead reasonably well,and have never heard him talk in a racist way, I think you have misinterpreted what he is trying to say,which is that there could be a problem in his area which needs to be adressed. he does not talk of repatriating immigrants, or offer a solution of any kind, he appears to be mentioning a topic for people to think about. it is a complete over reaction to call him a racist,and to compare him to Bernard Manning,although I would have phrased differently from him[but that is a result of being on this forum,and having too many over reactions] please explain what is Racist about bringing a topic to peoples, attention. If we cannot talk about potential integration problems,it is unlikely that any progress will be made. I am an Englishman ,and living in Ireland,I am an immigrant. as an Immigrant I realise that Ireland is different in many ways, for example, Religion, Culture. However,when stations are held in my townland,I am invited to attend,even though I am not Catholic,I am made welcome,and make a contribution in the form of[please note] IRISH traditional music,after the Ceremony., integration is something that cannot be forced ,but can be encouraged,and in my experience music can help to break these barriers down. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Marcus H Garvey Date: 14 Jun 09 - 08:59 PM what do you call an Italian man with a rubber toe? (No offence meant to Cap'n or anyone else who may or may not know someone who may or may not be Italian or have (or not have) a rubber toe.) |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 14 Jun 09 - 08:39 PM I count 23 plays on 'boring' in the poster. Now THAT'S boring. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jun 09 - 06:51 PM Eh? Joe Stead? Bernard Manning? Have I missed something vital?? (confused Smiley) Joe, Joe! Mudeceilidh has SMILIES, Joe! Really COOL ones that have steam coming out of their ears, and ones that stick out their tongues! Oh, JOE! Pleeeeze! Pretty Pleeeeeeeeeeeze! You KNOW you want to, Joe, you KNOw you DO! :0) And you could do it whilst Max is busy working, he'd never notice...I wouldn't tell him, I promise! And even if he tied me to a rack and stretched me until I was a size zero (oh if ONLY) I'd just tell him it was Joe Ooer who'd done it! Come on, Joe, Mudcat needs to smilies desperately! Just think of all the fun everyone could have in here.. ;0) LoadsofFans, eh, they sound Pretty Darn Sassy! Methinks I need to investigate them a little deeper... |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,baz parkes Date: 14 Jun 09 - 05:35 PM I was going to leap to Lawrence's defence...but the last thing he needs is my faint praise I was going to scan in aletter from a certain DickMles sent toFolk Roots (sic) some 20years ago, then realised it said exactly the same as he says here (and there.) If you don't like Borfolk et al,don';t read it. Icouldnever be arsed with Bernard Manning. And...how could ANYONE possibly not see that post by Joe Stead as racist. Butwhat do I know ....I'moneof the Froots Mafia ie I post there (and here, and MelodeonNet,and Teachit and...) In despair... Baz |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Ross Campbell Date: 14 Jun 09 - 05:14 PM It's good to see that the years have not dimmed Lawrence Heath's wit, nor his drawing and design skills, nor his ability to get up the noses of people who persist in seeing themselves as the objects of his humour. Sure, we can all recognize the Borfolk characters, if not in our own folk club, then in the one down the road or across the county. But taking personal umbrage seems to be carrying a "dislike" response a bit far. If you see yourself in one of LH's caricatures (and are offended by what you see), perhaps you should look for the characteristics in your own make-up that produced that sense of recognition. It can be a painful realisation that "There's many a true word spoken in jest." If LH accidentally touched a nerve, it's no reason to jump down his throat. Anyway, back to the positive - I couldn't find the page where you can order the Frank Ingnobody badges, T-shirts, beer-mats, bumper-stickers, guitar-case stickers, posters, banners etc, etc And can't wait for the "missing" links. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Roberto Date: 14 Jun 09 - 04:48 PM "here are some examples of why I think Ramblings of an old codger,is funnier than BORFOLK or Boring Day" Did the old codger write all those? Wow! I agree, he's miles funnier than Borfolk ever was. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jun 09 - 04:37 PM Funnies Some oldies but goodies. Enjoy! These glorious insults are from an era when cleverness with words was still valued, before a great portion of the English language got boiled down to 4-letter words, not to mention waving middle fingers. The exchange between Churchill & Lady Astor: She said, "If you were my husband I'd give you poison," and he said, "If you were my wife, I'd drink it." A Member of Parliament to Disraeli: "Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease." "That depends, Sir," said Disraeli, "on whether I embrace your policies or your mistress." "He had delusions of adequacy." - Walter Kerr "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." - Winston Churchill "A modest little person, with much to be modest about." - Winston Churchill "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow "He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary." - William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway). "Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?" - Ernest Hemingway (about William Faulkner) "Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it." - Moses Hadas "He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know."- Abraham Lincoln "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." - Oscar Wilde "I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend.... if you have one." - George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill "Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one." – Winston Churchill, in response. "I feel so miserable without you; it's almost like having you here." - Stephen Bishop "He is a self-made man and worships his creator." - John Bright "His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." - Mae West "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde "I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." - Groucho Marx here are some examples of why I think Ramblings of an old codger,is funnier than BORFOLK or Boring Day. finally,Vic, I will offer you some advice,mind your own business. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Vic Smith Date: 14 Jun 09 - 04:12 PM Oh dear! I can feel the temperature rising again. Let's see if I can do something to diffuse it……. The most important point about Dick's reaction to my posting is where he says yes,I agree Vic . Good, so it looks like we both think what Joe wrote was wrong and that is fundamental. Everything else is more trivial. However, you have raised points about the honesty and integrity of my actions which I hope that I can answer in a way that is non-confrontational. You say you are being selective in an attempt to score a point. And elsewhere you are generalising from one particular quote,but I am not surprised because you are only interested in scoring points. Well, I would beg to differ. First of all, this is not the first time that Joe has made statements of a worryingly dodgy nature on this subject in his Ramblings but to my mind this was the most blatant. As for my being "selective" in the quote, if you can find a better context for that quote, please feel free to do so here. I would be delighted if a better interpretation could be put on this statement. You say if you have an issue with Joe Stead,and are saying that he has said something unacceptable and racist ,contact him Well, of course, I did that, Dick. I emailed him straight away on reading it. He replied saying Hi Vic, I'm surprised you think this is an anti Muslim tirade……But at least you read me! Thanks for that. Joe I make no comment on whether you would consider this an adequate response. Perhaps, I shouldn't have posted Joe's comment here. I certainly wouldn't have done but for your posting on Joe as an exemplar of a humorist. Humour depends as much on one's reaction to the perpetrator as much as one's reaction to the material, so I have never found Joe funny in the same way that I never found Les Dawson funny. I do find the whole Borfolk concept very funny in a way that I think is inventive and keenly observed. If you find Joe's Ramblings funnier, perhaps you could give some examples here. Finally, could I offer you some advice, though it would probably be unwanted? Don't jump into the deep end in anger with Lawrence Heath. It is gentle harmless humour and it's not intended to hurt anyone. Look what happened when you misinterpreted a comment by Ian Anderson. You said that you ended up apologising to him over that. Don't get into a similar mess here. Look at Lizzie. She may, or may not, be Sally Pastie Head, but at least she has the grace to find Sally funny. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Lawrie Scroll Date: 14 Jun 09 - 03:16 PM "Does Sally like Sith Lockman's music?" She probably went to see the Shakenmetal Band when Borfolk booked them. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Lizzie Cornish 1 Date: 14 Jun 09 - 02:54 PM Oh....They have SMILIES! :0) Well, that's it...I'm a bit smitten now... LOL I like that Sally Pastie Head, she's an Alright Kinda Gal, but...but...I'm afraid Deidre bores the pants off me...and my Eleanor Roosevelt Pants, at that. Does Sally like Sith Lockman's music? ;0) |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Surreysinger Date: 14 Jun 09 - 02:53 PM Incidentally, could I point out that the thread about some fundamental points about the Midsouth week has been overlooked so far ... see this link here |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Surreysinger Date: 14 Jun 09 - 02:49 PM Where are those engineers to mend the Mudcat/Mud-e-ceilidh interface when you need them? |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 14 Jun 09 - 02:22 PM Oh good, art imitating life again! |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: GUEST,Marcus H Garvey Date: 14 Jun 09 - 02:19 PM If Laurence Heather is pretending that I am Captain Fish then I consider it a curse upon my family and I will sue him and hunt him down and kill him with agony. If not, then nevermind, as you were. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:52 PM I have never met Lawrence Heath,he does not know me personally. if he is referring to me as Big Ed[with the implication big headed],I consider that a personal attack,if you are not referring to me,please say so. one of the rules of this forum ,is no personal attacks. Lawrence if you think I am big head,say it to my face. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:14 PM to continue,as my post was sent off before i finished. I said that I found The Ramblings of an old Codger by Joe Stead,more amusing than Lawrence Heath. if you have an issue with Joe Stead,and are saying that he has said something unacceptable and racist ,contact him,but in fairness you should quote the whole of the letter,so that it is in context. Vic,I did not say that the piece you quoted was funny,did I. you are generalising from one particular quote,but I am not surprised because you are only interested in scoring points. |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:06 PM OK, I surrender . . . |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Surreysinger Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:06 PM I personally feel that the appearance of of Crooning:Bar:Orgasm could be quite interesting ... not to mention Ben Darbieram and Miles Wonki ! |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Abdul The Bul Bul Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:05 PM ERm, of thread I know but don't I recall seing T Trinder compering the Sunday night at the London Palladium on me Grannys TV. I think so and being now 60 that would put him well and truly in the 50's with Max Wall Ted Ray, J Jewel and etc.... Al |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: Folknacious Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:03 PM Not to mention The Ardent Ceilidh Boys and rare southern appearances by Ben Darbieram & Miles Wonki, and Kali Newparrot too!! Shaping up to be almost as good as Midsouth! |
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Subject: RE: Boring Folk Day From: The Sandman Date: 14 Jun 09 - 01:03 PM yes,I agree Vic,but did I say that the piece you quoted was funny. you are being selective in an attempt to score a point. |
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