BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?

Subject: BS: Flax for health?
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:51 PM

Since several of our posters are beyond the age of being carded at the pub; I thought perhaps some have had concern about cholesterol levels..and hence experience of....flax. It was suggested to me to try it to lower cholesterol readings with flax.But one person says to try the capsules, another the flax seed itself; another says it has to be ground into meal. Now I am confused about which type would work (if indeed it WOULD work)

Anyone have any experience with this? I feel I may get better advice here than the high school kid working the counter at the Health Food Store. ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:54 PM

According to my therapist, the flax meal is more effective, as the insides of the seeds are exposed. Whole seed is likely to pass through the digestive tract intact, keeping most of the nutritive and medical value.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:55 PM

Flax seed--unground--will go thru you like corn thru a goose. You can get some flax 'goodness' with 3-6-9 fatty acids. Fish oil, flax oil and borage oil. I eat very little meat or dairy, so cholesterol has seldom bothered me to that extent. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:59 PM

Jeff, congratulations. (Regarding October.) Very cool.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:03 PM

Flax meal good for fibre but I read somewhere that it needs to be consumed within an hour of grinding to get the best nutritional benefit from the fatty acids.

So advice goes, buy the flax seed and coffee grinder and put freshly ground flax flour on your breakfast cereal.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:06 PM

What's breakfast?

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: meself
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:10 PM

Half a six-pack, for some-who-shall-remain-nameless.

While we're on this kick - what about the ol' barley sandwich?

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: mg
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:50 PM

It is quite tasty I think..like sesame seeds or something. I try to keep some at work for my salads and grind in little coffee grinder. Makes a great salad with peanuts and shredded cabbage and a lime dressing. Maybe a bit of turkey. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: GUEST,van lingle
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 10:10 PM

From what I've read about it VT is correct,it's suppose to be at it's peak when freshly ground. I'm not too fanatical about it so I grind a few days worth (I use 2-3 tablespoons a day) in my coffee grinder and store it in a cool, dry and dark place (refrigerator).

It also loses it benefits when cooked so I sprinkle it on top of things like cold cereal or things that have been cooked or just drink it in a glass of spring water.

It is important to take the ground meal with at least 8 oz. of liquid as it will turn into a gelatinous mass in your colon otherwise.

I've read that it's best ingested an hour before taking vitamins, nutritional supplements or meals.

I use the meal but I also take a flax seed oil capsule at midday and a 3-6-9 capsule in the morning and evening in an effort to cover all the bases.

I got most of this info from the book "Prescription for Nutritional Healing" and the Mayo clinic website. Good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 08:38 AM

I'm amazed at peoples silliness. "What is breakfast?" a poster asks, inspite of being told by health experts that breakfast is the most important meal of the day! I give up.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: meself
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 11:18 AM

What is humour?

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 12:46 PM

meself: Are you suggesting that the poster who said "What is breakfast?" was joking? Meaning what? That he does have breakfast, but he thought it was funny to say that he didn't have breakfast? Where's the humour there?

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:29 PM

Tunesmith is right. I apologize for posting that. I'll be wearing sackcloth and ashes for weeks to atone for my sin.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:29 PM

Uh, what's sackcloth?

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:34 PM

Cholesterol also responds to niacin, but you need to ramp up gradually or the flushing and itching will bother the hell out of you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:34 PM

Tunesmith: get more fiber in your diet. It will help your disposition.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: Peace
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:42 PM

BTW, re breakfast being so important:

"Top Ten Diet Fallacies:
Breakfast is the Most Important Meal of the Day
By Ori Hofmekler
Author of The Warrior Diet

When you wake-up, your body is already in an intense detox mode, clearing itself of endotoxins and digestive waste from the past evening meal. During the morning hours, when digestion is fully completed (while you are on an empty stomach), a primal survival mechanism, known as fight or flight reaction to stress, is triggered, maximizing your body's capacity to generate energy, be alert, resist fatigue and resist stress.

This highly geared survival mode is primarily dominated by part of the autonomic nervous system known as the SNS (sympathetic nervous system). At that state, the body is in its most energy-producing phase and that's when most energy comes from fat burning. All that happens when you do not eat the typical morning meal. If however you follow what "normal guys" do and eat your morning bagel and cereal and egg & bacon, you'll most likely shut down the above energy producing system.

The SNS and its fight or flight mechanism will be substantially suppressed. Instead, your morning meal will trigger an antagonistic part of the automatic nervous system known as the PSNS (Para sympathetic nervous system), which makes you sleepy, slow and less resilient to fatigue and stress. Instead of spending energy and burning fat, your body will be more geared towards storing energy and gaining fat. Under this state, detox would be inhibited. The overall metabolic stress would increase with toxins accumulating in the liver, giving the body another substantial reason to gain fat. (Fat tissues serve as a biological storage for toxins)

The overall suppressing effects of morning meals, can lead to energy crashes during the daily (working) hours, often with chronic cravings for pick-up foods, sweets, coffee and tobacco. Eating at the wrong time, would severely interrupt the body's ability to be in tune with the circadian clock. The human body has never adapted to such interruptions. We are primarily pre-programmed to rotate between the two autonomic nervous system parts: the daily SNS and the nightly PSNS.

The SNS regulates alertness and action during the day, while PSNS regulates relaxation, digestion and sleep during the nightly hours. Any interruption in this primal daily cycle, may lead into sleepiness during the day followed by sleeping disorders at night. Morning meals must be carefully designed not to suppress the SNS and its highly energetic state. Minimizing morning food intake to fruits, veggie soup or small amounts of fresh light protein foods, such as poached or boiled eggs, plain yogurt, or white cheese, will maintain the body in an undereating phase, while promoting the SNS with its energy producing properties.

*Note: Athletes who exercise in the morning should turn breakfast into a post-exercise recovery meal. Such meals should consist of small amounts of fresh protein plus carbs such as yogurt and banana, eggs plus a bowl of oatmeal, or cottage cheese with berries.

An insulin spike is necessary for effectively finalizing the anabolic actions of GH and IGF1 after exercise. Nonetheless, after the initial recovery meal, it's highly recommended to maintain the body in an undereating phase by minimizing daily carb intake in the following meals. Applying small protein meals (minimum carbs) every couple of hours will keep sustaining the SNS during the daily hours while providing amino acids for protein synthesis in the muscle tissues, promoting a long lasting anabolic effect after exercise. In conclusion, breakfast isn't the most important meal of the day.

The most important meals are post-exercise recovery meals. Saying that, for a WARRIOR every meal is a recovery meal helping to recuperate from either nutritional stress (undereating) or physical stress (exercise). It's when you eat that makes what you eat matter."


FYI, Tunesmith.

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: meself
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 04:23 PM

'meself: Are you suggesting that the poster who said "What is breakfast?" was joking?'

Yes.

'Meaning what? That he does have breakfast, but he thought it was funny to say that he didn't have breakfast?'

Yes, probably - although I'm not familiar enough with his eating habits to confirm that statement in its entirety. However, I am quite certain that he did indeed think it was funny to imply that he does not eat breakfast.

'Where's the humour there?'

Some humour can be explained fully - a pun, for instance, can be explicated for the benefit of someone who would not otherwise detect it. By the time the analysis is completed, though, the humorous effect has probably been lost - but at least the person who required that analysis can see how the joke would be funny to those who immediately "get it". Humour of the self-deprecating, ironic, tongue-in-cheek variety, as in the present instance, is far more difficult to explain, if not impossible. I confess it is beyond my ability. However, I would point out the use of hyperbole - the poster implies that he is so far from maintaining a healthy diet, that he doesn't even know the meaning of the word "breakfast", which, given that he clearly has mastered basic literacy in the English language, cannot be true. Furthermore, there is a hint in that hyperbolic question of an alternative, yet perhaps equally valid, approach to life that does not concern itself with the finer points of healthy eating, nor, in all likelihood, with many other matters held to be of grave import by the more somber, sober, grim, earnest, obsessive, and/or neurotic of those among us. Why the expression of such a raffish, cavalier, devil-may-care attitude in response to advice regarding a dietary supplement should strike anyone as funny is, as I say, beyond my limited powers to explain.

Now - how did you like my reply: "Half a six-pack, for some-who-shall-remain-nameless"?

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 02:38 AM

I think I am in love with meself....

snork

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 05:52 AM

As a teacher, I can tell you that kids who skip breakfast definitely have trouble concentrating - and, in sporting activities, lack a certain energy. Of course, the kids who don't get breakfast may also not have had any evening meal the previous day!

Subject: RE: BS: Flax Seed/Meal/Capsules?
From: meself
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 11:36 PM

Some folks say he's in love with himself ....