BS: How long after can one make jokes about

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Gurney
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 07:56 PM

Whale tamborine?

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 05:49 PM

Well John, as you were obviously only joking all along ...

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 01:22 PM

Santa,
May I have a drum kit for Christmas? I have been a good little girl and no one is annoyed by my whale tambourine anymore.

SINS

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 10:59 AM

Let me apologize

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 10:58 AM

OK,kids, fun's over. Everybody ship all their drums and drumkits back to Spaw.



A

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 10:52 AM

As Anne Frank's dad may have said

"Enough with the drums already..."

:D

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 10:47 AM

There was Spaw, Spaw
Oh what a baleful bore
In the Stores
In the Stores...

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 10:36 AM

........and they had drums.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Smedley
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 08:09 AM

It's foolish to compare North Carolina with Nazi Germany.

The Nazis were *much* better dressed.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 06:34 AM

As a Christian, I'd say yes.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Smokey.
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 09:16 PM

It's all about delivery..

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: kendall
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 08:22 PM

"So many Christians, so few Lions." (Utah Phillips)

Is that funny?

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 05:21 PM

We know there are many similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy's assassinations. One more has just surfaced.

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was in Marilyn Monroe.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Gurney
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 05:14 PM

I once took out a library book which was an analysis of humour.
About halfway through, I came to the conclusion that either I didn't understand the analysis or that the author didn't understand humour.
Possibly both.

Anyone who thought that the Anne Frank joke wasn't in good taste would be well advised to NEVER join the Royal Navy. The standard comment in that service, when someone is killed or maimed, is 'He shouldn't have joined if he can't take a joke!'
As several have commented, humour is sometimes a coping mechanism.
And totally subjective.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 04:20 PM

Sorry Terry

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 04:20 PM

Well that kept you out of mischief for a bit then ;)

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 03:15 PM

"So you don't have any answer to my theory then?"

What theory?

I've just scrolled back thorugh this thread and you have posted no theory.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 02:26 PM

We are all unique.
Some of us make short posts for instance :)
So you don't have any answer to my theory then?

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 02:07 PM

John,

"Its something most people can relate to in themselves - I wonder if you see any parallels with your life?"

Is this what you call a personal insult?


I am suggesting that to be able to relate to these characters is normal as they possess characteristics that most people share.

That after all is the point of social satire.

I asked you whether you relate to the character "David Brent". I had already implied that to do so would be to consider yourself to be among the ranks of most normal people.

I take it from your response that you see yourself as being a cut above the rest of humanity as to be accused of being on their level is an insult.

Or maybe you only consider yourself to be above "social inadequates".

I'd love to know how you establish who is and isn't a "social inadequate".

Back to your last post ...

... You are right - resorting to personal insults is a poor substitute for reasoned argument.

So is accusing people of insulting you where there is no evidence of any insult except that which you have inferred yourself.


I presume that your own "windy Diatribe" has ground to its own halt or you might have tackled my point rather than taking offence from the suggestion that you might not be perfect.

Maybe admitting to having imperfections would make you feel "socially inadequate"

It's ok - I'll restrain myself from laughing.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:34 PM

I didn't say drums were boring — I use them for various purposes — just that Catspaw was, which seemed to have gratified him immeasurably. There, as HumptyDumpty would have remarked, is glory for you [by which, in case you have forgotten, he meant a nice knockdown argument].

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:34 PM

Thank you for personalising the discussion Lox.
It's nice to know people still revert to the personal insult, when their windy diatribes run out of steam.

JM

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 01:12 PM

Drums boring? I bet you are one of them anti-bohdran people as well!

Spaw - make it a tom-tom. Less postsage and get you there quicker...

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 12:23 PM

LMAO.....I love it!!!!!

You can have TWO drums...........LOLOLOL.................Perfect!


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 12:00 PM

Catspaw, I wonder if you have any idea how BORING you are? Are you proud?

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 11:11 AM

Thank you Dave! Finally!

See, I've been beating the drun kit to death (pardon the pun) all over the threads and no one til you has said "ENOUGH."   I love annoyance humor. Take something that is funny once and then beat it to death and beyond til everyone wants to beat you to death but do their best to be polite and not tell you to shut the fuck up.

Its a form of the humor that Andy Kaufman loved and though I detested him I was also a bit impressed as well. Instead of the audience laughing the comedian was laughing at us........The real master at this in the TV medium is Seth McFarlane who does "Family Guy."   He has a hit show and yet aggravates the hell out of some of his even most loyal viewers by beating a joke or a simple line into the ground.

I'm trying to be nominated to the Seth McFarlane Hall of Fame for Annoying Humor. I love ya' Dave and just because its you, I'm sending a drum!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 05:02 AM

This is a bad joke thread, not a drumkit thread...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 12:16 AM

Hmmmm......and since Lox put it so well, now I think maybe we oughta' give the Santas a drum instead of the prisoners..........or maybe we could just get more drums.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:33 PM

"One prisoner gets swine flu and dies. Is that murder?"

If the prison authourities know he will die without medical attention, deny him clothing and medical attention anyway and leave him to rot in an open wooden hut with no door, in the snow surrounded by decomposing bodies as part of a deliberate policy of imposing circumstances in which the chances of survival are nil, then yes I would call it murder.

As for the H1N1 virus,

I've had it and so has my daughter and we are both fine. Neither of us had the vaccine either.

We had access to medical attention, food, warmth etc.

I didn't even need any antivirals as my immune sytem (as in about 99% of cases) was able to adapt quickly and fight the virus off with a minimum of fuss.

North Carolina Prison inmates have access to comparable medical attention, clothing, shelter and warmth.

I think they are right not to succumb to the Panic aver H1N1

There is a subtle difference between life in a modern prison, and the realities Anne Frank endured and having read your posts so far I don't expect you to get it straight away, however I think its worth mentioning.


I'm afraid your comparison is as facile and feeble as your little put down.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Smokey.
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:03 PM

I've never been, but nevertheless it seems unfair to compare North Carolina to Nazi Germany.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:03 PM

Did you see the Santa Claus Union or whatever is demanding prority for H1N1 shots? They got a point though.........

How about for the prisoners that don't get the shot, we give them all a drum!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:53 PM

It's stupid and it's inviting multiple lawsuits. Influenza spreads through shut-in populations like wildfire and it's normally recommended they get the vaccine.

Is creating conditions that will make multiple PREVENTABLE deaths unavoidable if a contagious disease is introduced 'murder'? I think it's quibbling about language, but hey, we've quibbled about less monumental things.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:35 PM

[quote]Thanks for the recommendation - I hope I die of warm cuddly Typhus now that you have made it seem so attractive. [/quote]

I hope so too, I'm tired of your posts.

The state of North Carolina is not giving the H1N1 vaccine to people in prison and jail. One prisoner gets swine flu and dies. Is that murder?

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:24 PM

Wouldn't that be interesting - if it turned out that half the people on here were Ricky Gervaise characters being written out before our eyes ...

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Gervase
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:09 PM

Shh! David Brent is a regular poster on Mudcat. Under many different names.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:05 PM

John,

The Character 'David Brent' is an interesting one.

He has no idea in his head that he is anything less than funny, dynamic, intelligent, exciting and a real winner.

He is the kind of person who might be embarrassed by "social inadequates".

He would restrain his laughter at such people, but his instinct would be to laugh at them nonetheless.

He would recognize no "socially inadequate" characteristics in himself but rather wriggle out of admitting his own flaws with a combination of denial and projection.

In fact, he is very insecure and overconscious of how he is perceived.

Ultimately, he proves to be a nice guy underneath.

Its something most people can relate to in themselves - I wonder if you see any parallels with your life?

This is ultimately the result of his own insecurities.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:59 PM

Thanks DeG _ out of interest - what brought that on?

It was -

Ho-ho-ho. Tee-hee-hee!

Now please shut·the·fuck up!

I love it, but small things do amuse small minds.

:D (eG)

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:10 PM

Social inadequates, the sort of people we have all met in our lives, particularly in a work scenario. Where we would never dare laugh out loud at them the way we do the guy portrayed in The Office.
If you wouldn't laugh at someone like that to their face, why do it when they are parodied on TV?

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 04:32 PM

Ok John,


Who does 'the office' mock?


And how?


And Matt,


Thanks for the recommendation - I hope I die of warm cuddly Typhus now that you have made it seem so attractive.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 04:27 PM

Sorry Lox, doesn't matter which way you cut the cake, it's mockery, and I was always told thatit was wicked to mock the afflicted

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 04:26 PM

Murder is murder Matt. Whether I cut your limbs off one at a time over a few weeks or chop your head off quickly, it is murder.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Matt_R
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 04:17 PM

[quote]2. To say that she wasn't murdered but died of typhus is a bit like saying that ted bundy's victims weren't murdered but merely died of head trauma.[/quote]

Compared to being gassed by industrial-strength roach killer or being eviscerated or any of the other number of excruciating and grisly methods of extermination used in the concentration camps, typhus doesn't sound much like murder in comparison.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 03:37 PM

Sorry - posted that last one in a hurry - Mastermind had just started.
Can I explain.
I certainly am no supporter of political oversensitivity, particulary after witnessing the disappearence of many good traditional songs following a campaign by feminists to purge the scene of so-called 'sexist' material.
However, I do believe there to be a middle ground in most subjects (with the possible exception of racism).
I find the term PC has the effect of polarising any subject, making debate extremely difficult.
If it's any comfort I als belive do- badders to be the opposite of do-gooders - again, no competition.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 03:17 PM

Rumpity-tumm-tumm, guys...brumpity-tum-tum... here ya go.



A

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 03:03 PM

"Try telling that to the blinkered PC brigade Amos "
I always remind myself that the opposite to "political correctness" is "political incorrectness" - no competition I'm afraid.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:15 PM

Oh I forgot ... it helps to be able to laugh honestly at yourself.

Jim I loved the second joke. Awesome!

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Lox
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:10 PM

"Now while we're at it. How come there are so many shows mocking the inadequates of this world? Shows like The Office for instance."

The office is an example of social satire.

It lampoons recognizable cultural stereotypes in a way that allows us to laugh at how grotesque they are on the one hand, yet feel affection for the characters on the other.

This balance is important because the office parodies human characteristics which WE ALL POSSESS and as a result we see ourselves in the characters portrayed.

We either feel uncomfortable and cringe and hate it, or we feel uncomfortable and cringe and burst out laughing.

The key to creating social satire is in parodying recognizable cultural stereotypes and the key to appreciating social satire is in recognizing them.

The other major factor that makes the office so good is how close to reality it is and also how well acted it is.

Another show that does this well is peep show.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:05 PM

Maybe Amos could give them all a drum instead............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:00 PM

Try telling that to the blinkered PC brigade Amos

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:51 PM

Humor about anything is a way to rise above it. Being so stuck to a loss or a sad state of affairs that one cannot tolerate any humor about it is a sorry state indeed as it closes the door on one way back to sanity.

A

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:34 PM

I am reminded of the old Soviet 'Radio Armenia' jokes - Like: "Have you heard Pravda is running a competition for a political joke? The first prize is 10 years."