BS: How long after can one make jokes about

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:42 AM

I think it is all a question of timing and context. No one in their right mind would dream of telling dead child 'jokes' to a greiving mother but everyone who dies is someones son or daughter. Anne Boleyn jokes, In my opinion, cannot case offense as no-one here today can have claimed to have known her. Christians and Lions likewise. The Hollocaust and Nazi Germany is dodgy ground because it is more recent but, in context such as the previously mentioned 'the Producers' it, once again becomes acceptable.

Pretty much the same as it is OK for Jackie Mason to tell Jewish jokes but when Jim Davidson does so it is a different story. Likewise Eddie Murphy or Chris rock can get away with jokes releating to black culture but Bernard Manning was, rightly, castigated.

It is all a question of personal sensibilities, taste and tollerance. If humour starts to get disected too much the point is lost.


Cheers

DeG

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What did the Paris ambulance crew sing while putting the famous car crash victims into the mortuary bags?

Zippedee Dodi, Zippedee Di...

Told you!

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:40 AM

Humor is definitely a way of coping with a situation that would otherwise be unbearable.

The judge in the Ed Gein case wrote a book shortly after Gein was committed to a mental institution and included a long chapter (by a shrink, as I remember) on humor as a coping device -- and a compendium of "Ed Gein" jokes (all of which were revived each time he came up for a sanity hearing and were revived and modified after Jeffrey Dahmer's crimes were revealed).

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:19 AM

Sick Jokes appear almost immediately after even the most shocking tragedies ( I remember a short pause before Princess Di jokes flooded the market. Some get incorporated into songs ( there was a version of 'The Music man' which incorporated nasty happenings in the recent news , Lesley Whittle, Airey Neave, Mrs Ghandi, Michael Jackson).
   They aren't savoury, but some can make clever puns etc. Most would not be for public consumption on the media......but you try to stop them spreading vlike wildfire on the underground.....even before the Web. No-one ever owned up to making them up, they had always been heard 'from someone else', even the event was very recent.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Smedley
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 08:00 AM

I think the Anne Frank joke is rather funny.

In general, it's always interesting how soon it takes for jokes about 'tragic' events to enter the culture - I think the internet has speeded up the process. There were jokes online about 9/11 very swiftly after the events happened.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 07:41 AM

A friend of mine had to take an official part in the investigations into the "Herald of free Enterprise" capsise.
He came back with carrier bag labeled "this way up".

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Beer
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 07:37 AM

Shame shame shame on BBC.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 06:35 AM

I don't see how I am called on to 'cope' with the Reign of Terror or the plight of Anne Frank. But I do feel called on to respect the memory of those who were.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 06:21 AM

Telling jokes is a way of coping. If you're not telling jokes you're not coping. Discuss.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 05:55 AM

'Tragedy plus time equals comedy.' --

Sez who?!

I am shocked to the core about the Anne Frank joke, Keith. I seem to have missed that story. & the Beeb thought it was OK, did they? Well fuck you, Auntie Beeb!

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: kendall
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 05:50 AM

Abe Lincoln's assassination..."Other than that, how did you like the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

Titanic, "Where is all that fucking water coming from?"

Too recent, Mayor of Hiroshima, "What the fuck was that"?

Tragedy plus time equals comedy.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Amergin
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 05:40 AM

Yeah some people will lose their heads over anything....

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 04:59 AM

Someone made a joke about Anne Frank on BBC R4 last week.
Her last diary entry was said to be , its my birthday and dad gave me a drum kit.
Complaints were made but BBC did not accept that they were wrong to allow it.

Subject: RE: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 04:54 AM

If you just got your nuts slammed in a drawer or your tit squished in a door, you might not appreciate jokes for three or four minutes. Things like beheadings a week. Mass murder a month, and extermination of the human race at least a year.

Subject: BS: How long after can one make jokes about
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 09 - 04:41 AM

The Head Tucked Underneath Her Arm thread, re the terrible taste of a music-hall song about Anne Boleyn's execution, which nobody else but the OP & I seemed to recognise, is still a bit fresh in mind. One thing that has always exercised me is, how long after something terrible in its time is it OK to poke fun at it? — I have always hated comic films about eg The Reign Of Terror {"Don't Lose Your Head" by the CarryOn people}, Christians To Lions, &c. When will the Auschwitz hahaha come along then? {"Springtime for Hitler" is on the verge}. Maybe this might form the topic of a separate thread... In fact I am about to start it ... Anyone care to join in?