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BS: scam?

MGM·Lion 27 Dec 09 - 04:17 AM
The Fooles Troupe 27 Dec 09 - 06:11 AM
artbrooks 27 Dec 09 - 07:05 AM
John MacKenzie 27 Dec 09 - 07:16 AM
MGM·Lion 27 Dec 09 - 07:53 AM
GUEST,Rapaire 27 Dec 09 - 08:20 AM
MGM·Lion 27 Dec 09 - 08:33 AM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 11:42 AM
JohnInKansas 27 Dec 09 - 11:54 AM
Jim Dixon 27 Dec 09 - 12:03 PM
JohnInKansas 27 Dec 09 - 12:48 PM
GUEST,MarkS 27 Dec 09 - 12:54 PM
Geoff the Duck 27 Dec 09 - 01:17 PM
MGM·Lion 27 Dec 09 - 01:22 PM
GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting 27 Dec 09 - 01:49 PM
GUEST,DAMN--that was me. 999 27 Dec 09 - 01:52 PM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 02:05 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 Dec 09 - 02:16 PM
Bill D 27 Dec 09 - 02:23 PM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 02:33 PM
Geoff the Duck 27 Dec 09 - 02:37 PM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 02:44 PM
GUEST,Mac 27 Dec 09 - 02:47 PM
open mike 27 Dec 09 - 03:07 PM
GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting 27 Dec 09 - 03:20 PM
Stilly River Sage 27 Dec 09 - 03:53 PM
GUEST,PeterC 27 Dec 09 - 04:07 PM
GUEST,999 27 Dec 09 - 04:12 PM
Ebbie 27 Dec 09 - 04:15 PM
Geoff the Duck 27 Dec 09 - 04:31 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 Dec 09 - 04:33 PM
Geoff the Duck 27 Dec 09 - 04:33 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 27 Dec 09 - 04:39 PM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 06:09 PM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 06:11 PM
GUEST,999 27 Dec 09 - 06:38 PM
Geoff the Duck 27 Dec 09 - 07:46 PM
Alice 27 Dec 09 - 07:52 PM
artbrooks 28 Dec 09 - 08:49 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 28 Dec 09 - 09:21 AM
Alice 28 Dec 09 - 12:45 PM
Donuel 28 Dec 09 - 12:52 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 28 Dec 09 - 12:58 PM
Alice 28 Dec 09 - 01:20 PM
GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting 28 Dec 09 - 01:21 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 28 Dec 09 - 02:20 PM
GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting 28 Dec 09 - 02:57 PM
Smokey. 28 Dec 09 - 07:25 PM
Donuel 28 Dec 09 - 07:51 PM
Donuel 28 Dec 09 - 07:54 PM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 28 Dec 09 - 07:57 PM
Donuel 28 Dec 09 - 07:59 PM
Donuel 28 Dec 09 - 08:00 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 28 Dec 09 - 09:23 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 28 Dec 09 - 09:37 PM
GUEST,999--DAMN 28 Dec 09 - 09:51 PM
MGM·Lion 28 Dec 09 - 10:09 PM
Ed T 28 Dec 09 - 10:21 PM
ragdall 29 Dec 09 - 03:52 AM
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Subject: BS: scam?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:17 AM

Anyone else received the following e-mail which came to me at 0910 this morning, 27 Dec 2009? I like the idea of a UK address having a City & *State* — wonder which country this one originated in!

===Your Email address have been picked as a winner of a lump sum pay out
of(£1,000,000.00 GBP)in cash credited to file REF NO.REF:UKHY/BD3113BD.Your
Email Ref Number falls within our European booklet representative's office
in United Kingdom.
========================
Mr John Williams
Email :williamsoffices002@btinternet.com
========================
MICROSOFT PROMOTIONAL CLAIMS ANNEX FILL IN BELOW:
1.FULL NAMES:2.ADDRESS:3.City:4.State:5.Postcode:6.Country:
7.SEX:8.AGE:9.OCCUPATION:10.TELEPHONE NUMBER: ===


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 06:11 AM

Do you remember entering? No...... :-)

Definitely a scam. Do NOT reply. You could try and onforward it to some authority that deals with these scams - varies on what country you are in, or just delete it - that's the safest way... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 07:05 AM

Clearly a scam, of course. It didn't originate in the US - we don't have 'postcodes'...ours are called 'zipcodes'.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 07:16 AM

And we don't have states


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 07:53 AM

I have of course not replied & have deleted. Entry, rather cleverly, not an issue here as they claim it is my e-address that has won — though whence they will have scanned that, who knows? These people have their ways...


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 08:20 AM

I'd enter if I were you. You could become rich and wealthy and all. Of course, if I were me I'd just delete the damned thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 08:33 AM

I already have Rapaire - deleted, that is, not entered, as I am me, not you [or is it the other way round? You are confusing me!]

Woe, alas - now I suppose I shall never become rich and wealthy and all.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 11:42 AM

Most of us get several scam emails like that a day, and have for years. I wonder why you were so lucky to not be spammed with these before! Have you ever read the Nigerian scam threads? Type "Nigerian" in the filter box and set to "All".


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 11:54 AM

Try a look at Seven Scams for Christmas.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 12:03 PM

I suppose if you wanted to design a generic address format that would work for all countries, it could reasonably use the terms city, state, and postcode.

I believe Zip Code is unique to the United States, but postcode is an accepted international term. I think most Americans could figure out that postcode is equivalent to Zip Code. At least they both have the word "code" in them.

The USA, Australia, and India have states. Canada has provinces. Britain and Ireland have counties. All these serve the same purpose as far as mailing addresses are concerned, but I don't know any generic term that means "state, province, or county." State is probably as good a term as any.

Of course all this has nothing to do with whether the message is a scam or not. (I think it is.) But if you're trying to figure out what country the message came from, it really doesn't give you much of a clue.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 12:48 PM

Except that in the USA a couple of the "states" insist that they are not states, but are "Commonwealths." And most states in the USA are also divided into counties - except for a couple where the divisions are "parishes" instead of counties. And while most of the "states" conform (loosely?) to "English common law" at least one subscribes to Napoleonic common law.

But "aliases" are commonly used - with little confusion (for mailing purposes).

John


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,MarkS
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 12:54 PM

Which State is that? (Napoleonic common law)


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 01:17 PM

Am I still on Mudcat?

If so, why has this not turned into a music thread by now???


Here goes...




On the First Day of Christmas
The scammers sent to me...

A million on Nigerian Lott-tree.


On the Second Day of Christmas...



I leave it to you!
(Real ones if possible, good believable ideas otherwise).

Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 01:22 PM

Nice idea, Geoff My Duck. Might as well use these bloody scams creatively as there doesn't seem much else to do about them.

Quack·Back·2U

Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 01:49 PM

JohninKansas, Alaska does not have counties OR parishes. Although not all towns and villages are in one, we have boroughs.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,DAMN--that was me. 999
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 01:52 PM

"we have boroughs."

Edgar Rice?
William?

What, no donkeys?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:05 PM

Louisiana is the state with the history of Napoleonic law (and has parishes instead of counties).


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:16 PM

I have been getting an email pushing a vaginal cream. Many mis-spelled words. It protects against most everything.

That lump sum scam has been around for at least two years and has been noted in mudcat before.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:23 PM

gee... when you enter "UKHY/BD3113BD" in Google, it truns out they have a LOT of winners.

You may have to share the wealth.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:33 PM

Today I received an email from a woman in Africa whose father had been killed by political enemies, and if only I could send the money for her to come and be my companion or sweet wife.... (no kidding, I really did get that email today addressed, as so many are to Dearest One).

Alice


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:37 PM

OOkay Q ...


On the Second Day of Christmas
The scammers sent to me...

As sure cure for Thrush,

and

A million on Nigerian Lott-tree.


...


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:44 PM

On the third Day of Christmas
The scammers sent to me....

A Brand New Wife

etc.
etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,Mac
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 02:47 PM

on the fifth day


Vi.......ag..ra

(I know we havn't done 3rd and 4th yet but had to get this one reserved)


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: open mike
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 03:07 PM

6 million dollars


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 03:20 PM

Guest/999, perhaps you should go re-read the spine of Tarzan for a spelling hint. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 03:53 PM

You're a clever lot today!


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:07 PM

I never get any of these. Am I deprived or am is it just that I know how to switch on the spam filter?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:12 PM

DEAR E-MAIL OWNER,

CONGRATULATIONS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST-ASIA PROMOTION, WE ARE HAPPY TO INFORM YOU THAT YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS EMERGED WINNER OF TOTAL SUM OF SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ONLY (USD$720,000.00) FROM OUR JUST CONCLUDED CHRISTMAS 2009 DRAWS. TO REDEEM YOUR PRIZE PLEASE CONTACT OUR CO-ORDINATOR AT THE DETAILS BELOW;

NAME- MR. HUSSAIN FAHAD JAWAL,
PRIZE VERIFICATION OFFICE

etc.

Laugh all you want over my spelleng. Now I can afford to hire a secratary.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:15 PM

er um, 999, I referred to the fact that boroughs are not related to Edgar Rice Burroughs. :}


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:31 PM

Okay!
We are up to 6.
Who's got a good seven?

Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:33 PM

Please, kind sir or madam, I need to borough a small sum, say about $1,000,000 .....


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:33 PM

Rice Burrows?
Where rabbits keep their pilaus?
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 04:39 PM

Oh, burrough me not on the lone prairie


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 06:09 PM

This one just came into my SPAM folder a few minutes ago:

Dear beneficiary,

You are welcome to GT Bank Plc. The payment Bank for the 2009 UN Online
Promo. We are pleased to be at your service. We are Regulated and Stipulated
by the Financial Service Authority (FSA), the financial institutions that
govern all financial activities around the World, after a proper screening
and verification excises that was conducted in our Bank today in addition to
receiving confirmation from the UN and The ECOWAS Online Promotional board,
that you are one of the promo winners of $287,500.00 (TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY
SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ONLY).


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 06:11 PM

on the 7th day of Christmas the spammers sent to me:

Seven Nigerian Lords a Lieing


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 06:38 PM

"This is to notify you that £1,350,000.00 Pounds has been awarded to your E-mail in ourIRISH NATIONAL LOTTERY
New Year Promo.Reply to this email with your Information to file for your claims agent."

I am gonna have more money than Carter had Liver Pills. AND, two secrataries.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 07:46 PM

Okay folks - what about 8 and above?

Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 07:52 PM

On the 8th day of Christmas the Spammers brought to me

8 emails milking my bank account


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: artbrooks
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 08:49 AM

Nine suckers leaping


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 09:21 AM

Ten grammatical errors


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 12:45 PM

Eleven Lottery Larcenies



Twelve drummers drumming up another rip-off scheme


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 12:52 PM

congratulations!

Would you like a list of bridges that you could invest in?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 12:58 PM

Email received today- Spelling and grammar preserved.

(email address)
Athersoclerosis approcahed you with evrey excses kiloo of your wieght!
Be reday to epxlore the avdantages of malee enhancemnet wtihout srugery!
Doon't thorw trhee monhts aaway froom yoour lifee - juust saay no to depressoin!
"Coome!" saaid Mr. Jarnydce. "Noow for oour assumtoin. Noow we liift oour eeyes up and loook hoepfully at the distnace! Riick, the wolrd is bfeore you; and it is moost probalbe thaat as you enetr it, so it will receive you. Trsut in nohting buut in Prvoidence and yoour oown efofrts. Nveer seaprate the two, likee the heahten waggnoer.

Scam, or Bobert trying to raise money for his hotel?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Alice
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 01:20 PM

one I received today, in part:

Have it in mind and be reliance that this is not a Scam Mail because I am going to show you evidence to proof that I am for real, I am a family man; happily married with two kids. I send you this mail not without a measure of fear as to what the consequences might be, but I know within me that nothing ventured is nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter of gold. This is the one truth I have learned from my private banking clients. Do not betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord, we should plan a meeting, soon. And finally after that i shall provide you with more details of this operation.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 01:21 PM

I don't see a problem, Q. Sounds legit to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 02:20 PM

Ebbie, are you intimating I need what he is selling?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 02:57 PM

Oh good heavens! Hoist by my own petard! My eyes slid right by "malee enhancement". I was trying to be funny in pretending that his English wasn't unusual. So carry on, OK?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Smokey.
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 07:25 PM

These aren't recent but I just had to save them..
Merry Christmas all.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 07:51 PM

Implant goat testicles today! Don't delay, satisfaction is only a google search away!

{Brinkman goat testicles}


For the women we now have goat ovaries!!!!!!!!!!

Tune in our million watt radio show and get diagnosed today


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 07:54 PM

The only thing that stopped Brinkman was his run for the Presidency of the USA. He was richer than Bill Gates for his day.
He was the greatest scamster of the 1930's.
You'll have to admit he is a rank amateur compared to AIG and Goldman Sachs.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 07:57 PM

They've all been through the Mudcat translator. From Swaheli to French to English..ish.

Don T


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 07:59 PM

Pope Brock wrote the biography: "Charlatan" (Crown)
The bizarre story of "the goat gland man," John Brinkley, a marketing genius and medical fraud who amassed a fabulous fortune in the early twentieth century implanting thousands with goat testicles to restore sexual virility.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 08:00 PM

Ha

I bet I got your goat.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 09:23 PM

Dr. John R. Brinkley practiced medicine and operated a radio station in Kansas, and ran for governor. In trouble with the Kansas State Medical Board and the Federal Communications Commission, he lost his licenses and moved to Del Rio, Texas. He operated a powerful radio station across the border in Villa Acuna. He operated two hospitals, in Del Rio, and in Little Rock, Arkansas.
He first transplanted a goat testicle into a human while still in Kansas, in the 1930s.
He became wealthy (but not on the order of eastern entrepreneurs). He died in 1942, essentially bankrupt because of tax problems.
His papers are held by the Kansas State Historical Society (see their website).

All sorts of things were advertised on his powerful station. I wanted a toy boat advertised there, and made my parents climb walls until they finally broke down and ordered it. The motorboat toy was well-constructed, and had a little steam boiler that ran on Sterno (canned heat). It was my favorite toy for several years until I finally lost interest. I wish that I had kept it- I never found its equivalent when my kids came along.
The station was responsible for launching the careers of several country singers.


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 09:37 PM

Hey, I found those boats on the net, but they run on olive oil or candle, no Sterno. Hmmm, second (or third?) childhood coming up?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: GUEST,999--DAMN
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 09:51 PM

"If we can be of one accord, we should plan a meeting, soon. And finally after that i shall provide you with more details."

If he wants to show you the trunk of his car, no matter how nice he says it is, DON'T GO! That's my advice to you.

Also, ahem, not wanting to brag to Q, BUT, I have been requested to become the VIAGRA distributor for some country I can't spell, just as soon as I can send them my bank account number. What should I do?


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 10:09 PM

=        From:          canny@europe2.fr
        Subject:         Japanese official demoted for 780,000 hits on porn sties
        Date:         May 30, 2009 3:20:09 BST ==

For months I would get regular spams headed/sourced as above but never the same twice, followed by promises of 'ORGASM HEAVEN' - "do you want to be one of those guys whose girlfriend talks of over drinks to her girlfriends about the non-stop orgasms you give her?" &c&c. Quite flattering at my age too...


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Dec 09 - 10:21 PM

Could this be one, a product with a good commercial but a doubtful need?

http://www.youtube.com/user/curebadbreath?feature=pyv&ad=3985650455&kw=to&gclid=CInAiZbX-p4CFY915QodQzDGJg#p/u/0/B6BbJ19-Joo


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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: ragdall
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 03:52 AM

I promise to make a generous donation to Mudcat after I receive my winnings:

Asia Lottery Email Award 2009
No.19/21B, Jln Ampang Razak,
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia 56000.

YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS WON THIS YEAR ASIAN MILLION LOTTERY.

Sir/Madam,

We wish to congratulate you over your email success in our computer balloting held on 24th December 2009. This is a Millennium Scientific Computer Game in which email addresses were used. It is a promotional program aimed at encouraging internet users; therefore you do not need to buy ticket to enter for it. You have been approved for the star prize of US$667:545:00 (Six Hundred And Sixty Seven Thousand, Five Hundred And Fourty Five United States Dollars
Only).To claim your winning prize you are to contact the appointed claim agent as soon as possible for the immediate release of your winnings with the following informations below:

Your Full Names..............................
Home And Office Telephone Numbers...........
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Winning email address....................
Contact Home/Office Address.............

Mr.Craig Emerson
ISO Hitec Security,
No. 365-1, 1st Floor,
Batu 2 1/2, Jalan Ipoh,
51200,Kuala Lumpur,
Malaysia.
Company Email: isohitec@mcom.com

Ref No: AS/09/17/54/009/KL
Batch No: SLTO/7913/KL/AS
Lucky No: 06-114-010963
Serial No: KLUOTI/831671

The Validity period of the winnings is for 20 working days hence you are expected to make your claims immediately, any claim not made before this date will be returned to the MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF MALAYSIA.

Note: You are advised to keep this winning very confidential until you receive your lump prize in your account or optional Cheque issuance to you, This is a protective measure put in place to avoid people applying for your winnig fund, as we have had cases like this before.

Best Regards,
Fatimah Binti Usman,
(Program Assistant).

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Subject: RE: BS: scam?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 04:37 AM

Unfortunately, some of the most damaging fraud operators speak very good English (US or UK) and are capable of persuasive good grammar.

Another victim of the recession: Ponzi schemes

Increase in collapsed scams as $16.5 billion disappears like smoke in 2009

The Associated Press
updated 2:56 p.m. CT, Mon., Dec . 28, 2009

MIAMI - It was a rough year for Ponzi schemes. In 2009, the recession unraveled nearly four times as many of the investment scams as fell apart in 2008, with "Ponzi" becoming a buzzword again thanks to the collapse of Bernard Madoff's $50 billion plot.

Tens of thousands of investors, some of them losing their life's savings, watched more than $16.5 billion disappear like smoke in 2009, according to an Associated Press analysis of scams in all 50 states.

While the dollar figure was lower than in 2008, that's only because Madoff — who pleaded guilty earlier this year and is serving a 150-year prison sentence — was arrested in December 2008 and didn't count toward this year's total.

In all, more than 150 Ponzi schemes collapsed in 2009, compared to about 40 in 2008, according to the AP's examination of criminal cases at all U.S. attorneys' offices and the FBI, as well as criminal and civil actions taken by state prosecutors and regulators at both the federal and state levels.

The 2009 scams ranged in size from a few hundred thousand dollars to the $7 billion bogus international banking empire authorities say jailed financier Allen Stanford orchestrated, as well as the $1.2 billion scheme they say was operated by disbarred Florida lawyer Scott Rothstein. Both have pleaded not guilty.

While enforcement efforts have ramped up — in large part because of the discovery of Madoff's fraud, estimated at $21 billion to $50 billion — the main reason so many Ponzi schemes have come to light is clear.

"The financial meltdown has resulted in the exposure of numerous fraudulent schemes that otherwise might have gone undetected for a longer period of time," said Lanny Breuer, assistant attorney general for the U.S. Justice Department's criminal division.

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More at the link.

John


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