BS: attempt mass murder Christmas

Subject: RE: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
From: GUEST,Falco
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 08:45 AM

Well said Keith.

Subject: RE: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
From: bubblyrat
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 08:41 AM

I agree, Sinsull ; in fact, as well as the "danger signs" you mention, he wasn't travelling with any LUGGAGE, either !!

Subject: RE: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
From: bubblyrat
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 08:38 AM

"Graviora Quaedam Sunt Remedia Periculis ", or something like that.
    Actually,all of this could precipitate a dramatic slump in domestic air travel,which would,in my opinion,be no bad thing in these frenetic, air-polluting times.

Subject: RE: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 08:34 AM

What an absurd cock-up. In the age of almost limitless computer power, how could they not maintain data bases to coordinate information and red flag a problem? His father reported he might be a threat. He paid CASH for a $3000 airline ticket. He was barred from entering Britain because he claimed to be attending a fictitious university. Had a US visa.

In the 70s, when hijacking was fairly common, anyone who paid cash for a ticket was searched, questioned and sometimes barred from getting on a flight.

According to one news report, the US paid for and installed four body scan devices for use in Nigeria's international airports. They are not being used.

There was NO AIR MARSHALL on the flight.

LOL But we are all safe because after Sept 11, if anyone acts oddly on a flight, the passengers are prepared to kick the shit out of them. Thank goodness someone is using some common sense.

Subject: RE: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
From: theleveller
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 06:33 AM

"How much of his "national power" is acceptable to use? "

Both in the UK and the USA the legislation brought in in the so-called "war" against terror (itself a misnomer)is being used to curtail the basic rights and freedoms of the individual - thereby undermining the very democracy that the terrorists hate and accomplishing their goals for them and playing straight into their hands. A C Grayling's excellent book, 'Liberty in the Age of Terror' deals with this in detail and warns of the consequences.

Sometimes the cure is more harmful than the disease.

Subject: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Dec 09 - 05:59 AM

Saved only by luck.
Does no one want to talk about this attack?
Obama says, "Those who would slaughter innocent men, women and children must know the United States will do more than simply strengthen our defences.

"We will continue to use every element of our national power to disrupt, to dismantle and defeat the violent extremists."

How much of his "national power" is acceptable to use?