BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns

Subject: BS: How to stop a cat from fouling your lawn
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:03 AM

Here is the solution for all those people who do not have a cat, but get totally pissed off by a cat crapping on your lawn. Nothing worse than mowing over a cat turd.

How to stop a cat crapping on your lawn

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: bubblyrat
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:32 AM

Personally, I favour the "Eley Kynoch" method, although the US " .22 WMR" approach reduces the risk of shredding your shrubbery.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:35 AM

Sorry - I don't find that bit of film at all funny. An adult treating a cat in that way just has to be totally sick. All I can think is - what if the cat hadn't been released before a heavy load of rubbish was put in, or the bin emptied.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:44 AM

Perhaps a video on "How to stop people from mistreating cats" would be interesting, also.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:45 AM

There are plenty of people like this who routinely kill cats in their street by putting out poisoned bait or setting traps and snares that strangle them, they don't usually get caught on CCTV though! She obviously finds this a simpler method than the more popular methods. Check out the gloves, this is something she's deliberately prepared for in case of getting scratched. I wonder how many pets round there have ended up crushed in the rubbish? A bin man would never hear the animal cry over the noise of the lorry. And once loaded on, those bins are raised and emptied out mechanically into the back of the truck and then crushed.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:50 AM

Its not meant to be funny.

Its a solution to a very real problem created by stupid people who don't give a crap about other people's rights OR about their cat's welfare, if they let it roam about destroying other peoples' property and small furries into the bargain.

Even the .22WMR is a bit noisy - I've found .22 Long Rifle sub-sonic rounds do a more than adequate job without "scaring the horses".

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:50 AM

I agree Jacqui.

I would never dream of doing anything like that.

However, how do you stop other people's animals crapping on your lawn.
My wife went to a neighbours house the one day, having witnessed their cat just finishing a crap on our lawn. She asked them to come and clear up their cat's mess. They just hurled abuse at her.
So later we lifted the offending objects and placed them on their lawn.

Whilst we would never harm an animal, we do get totally fed up of the bloody cat's. Why don't cats crap in their own garden.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:53 AM

Perhaps a video on "how to train idiots not to mistreat their neighbors and the environment" would be interesting as well.

Ya want cats not to be mistreated? keep 'em the hell off other people's property.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:54 AM

Oh by the way, it wasn't mean't to be funny, as GregF says.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:54 AM

P.S. I'm a cat owner- but a responsible one.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: I don't know
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:54 AM

Horrible, nasty person. I don't like cats usually but this takes things to far. Maybe punishment should be to stuff her in a wheelie bin (weighted down so as not to push the lid up) & let her stew for an hour or two, she might think twice before doing it to another defenseless creature

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:55 AM

It's always the same. You have responsible owners and the ones that make your blood boil.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:56 AM

"Why don't cats crap in their own garden."

Ours do. I don't know about anyone else, but it's easy to make sure you have a nicely turned patch of dirt or sandpit for them.

There is something more sinister here too than some random middle-aged woman throwing a cat in a bin. Studies have proven that there are strong links between animal cruelty and child abuse. So much so that in America I believe welfare services follow up cases of animal cruelty to check on the kids.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:59 AM

Maybe we should have the same laws as for dogs. if leaving the owners premises, they should be on a lead and all owners should be made to clear up the mess or face a fine.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:00 AM

And if the cat owner's property was inundated with cat shit and cat piss- and the diseases that go with 'em, maybe they'd think twice before "doing it to another"s property.

Maybe their punishment should be to have the 'gifted' cat shit smeared in their face?

Love your cats? Keep em home.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:01 AM

Also, why do we allow cats to go shagging other peoples cats anywhere round the neighbourhood.
We don't let dogs do that.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:04 AM

There is something more sinister here too than some random middle-aged woman throwing a cat in a bin.

Too damn right, there is! A sinister increase in the number of people who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

Social services should be tracking THAT, and removing children from homes that bring 'em up with no regard for the rights of others.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: GUEST,Uncle Rumpo
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:06 AM

CCTV is a nightmare these days..

you can't do anything devious in public places anymore.....

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:06 AM

Why, because people are stupid and think that cats are supposed to be allowed to roam. That is a load of crap. Because of that, some bastard ran over a cat this morning, right in front of our house. I don't care if he crapped in my lawn or not, don't know if it did, but I DO wish I knew who killed it AND who its gawdamned owner is. It was just dying as I was able to get to it and try to give it comfort before Rog moved it to the side of the road, but I hope karma is swift and just. Now my grandson has lots of questions which have been answered, but most of all he knows how stupid it is to let cats run loose.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:06 AM

Also, why do we allow cats to go shagging other peoples cats anywhere round the neighbourhood. We don't let dogs do that.

No? Happens all the time in my community. Plenty of idiot irresponsible dog owners out there, too. I don't mean to pick on idiot irresponsible cat owers exclusively.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 10:13 AM

To be fair, dog owners on our estate are very responsible. I can't remember ever seeing a dog roaming.

Just seems to be the cat owners.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Becca72
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 11:56 AM

An irresponsible owner is STILL no reason to mistreat an animal. To say otherwise IMO is cruel and ignorant. I will not watch this video based on the comments already posted.
I am a cat owner (and a responsible one). My cats are completely indoor cats. However, if another cat were to "foul" my lawn I still wouldn't treat it poorly.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 11:58 AM

Cats & dogs **generally** have different behavior patterns. Cats at least make an effort to 'cover up'. Cats WILL roam a bit, and tend to explore the neighborhood IF they are outdoor cats.
If one lives in an area with many close neighbors, it is a good idea to keep cats IN...or at least feed them IN and let them out for only short periods.

The real solution is to try to come to some understanding with the cat owners and help them understand your issues....but injuring or killing the animals is never a good idea.

Cats which have a general area at home which is convenient to scratch in will seldom be a real problem. Dogs are a far worse problem if the owners allow them to run, or 'take them for a walk'. There are laws about cleaning up after dogs.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 12:18 PM

I have greatly enjoyed life in both Cuba and Trinidad where literally thousands of dogs and cats roam around at large, wandering the streets, going wherever they please, and living their lives amongst the humans, none of whom seem the least bit concerned about it. Lizards come into the house at night and catch the bugs that come around the lights. Nobody cares.

Then I hear North Americans obsessing about some neighbour's cat pooping in their garden. Sheesh. What a bunch of over-regulated, whining, complaining little babies we have become. That's my reaction. If you have to have a fecking rule and regulation and restriction for everything in life just so that nothing you didn't plan on ever intrudes on your little comfort bubble then I think you've lost the meaning of it somewhere along the way.

As for the woman dumping the cat in the dumpster...what a jerk! She clearly has issues. Live and let live is the best rule to follow.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 12:26 PM

Oh, I can hear the howls of outrage now....

"But this is MY convenience we're talking about here!!!!!!!" (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 12:55 PM

According to my Torygraph the RSPCA are looking into nthat case with a view to possible prosecotion for cruelty .
Incidentally the cat was recovered unhaharmed after being in the Wheelie bin for fifteen hours ! I personally would be only too pleased to help stuff that woman in a wheelie bin for a day or so !

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 12:58 PM

Yes, that would seem like the perfect punishment to fit the crime, wouldn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 01:37 PM

By all means stuff the woman in the wheelie bin, as long as you also fill the owner of the cat's parlor with cat shit to a depth of about four inches.

The real solution is to try to come to some understanding with the cat owners and help them understand your issues...

If they don't already understand the issue of why I shouldn't be required to constantly clean their pet's excrement off my property it seems unlikely that this is ANY sort of a "solution".

What would be their reaction should I dump my rubbish on their front lawn on a daily basis instead of binning it?

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 02:12 PM

I once bought some stuff online that claimed to stop animals from messing on your yard. It was expensive, and when I read the label, it turned out to be non bentonite 'cat litter' mixed with thyme and peppermint.

The stuff I bought worked, but I have NO idea if home made stuff would work, or how long it would last.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 02:13 PM

Saw this on facebook yesterday and heard on BBC R4 this morning. Disgusting behaviour.

The poor cat may have died of dehydration which is considerably more horrible than being crushed or tipped into rubbish truck as the cat suffers longer in this case.

Anyone who needlessly harms animals for any reason should be punished to the full extent of the law as well as named and shamed publicly.

There are products available that repel cats without harming them. I've heard chilli powder and cayenne pepper work but needs to be replaced as soon as it rains until he cat(s) learn this is not a good place to toilet.

If cat fouling is really the issue and not just a sick aversion to cats, and you want the owner to take responsibility then a word with owner of cat including back up photos should suffice. If this does not work, a few returns of cat deposits on the owners doorstep might do the trick. Don't punish an animal for the owner's insensitivity.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 02:27 PM

I have found the product to use

http://www.cactus-products.com/specifications-800-0.html

I am supposed to put a warning by the spikes. Does anybody know what the words would be in cat language?

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 02:49 PM

Needs no words Arthur and it is a good idea.

Ideally should be required purchase and installation by owners who let their cats outdoors.

It is for their pet's own safety after all.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 03:06 PM

I wouldn't mind having mild electric shocks coming out of each cone, in case the cat decides to plant it's arse on the cone in an attempt to do a jobby.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: gnu
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 03:19 PM

Bitch.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 03:27 PM

Well as I undertsand it, she will not get away with it.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 03:32 PM

I wish I still had my trusted Mashie Niblick. I could then loft the turds into my neighbours gardens.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: gnu
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 03:46 PM

The old fellah next to Mum's used to let his dog walk to Mum's lawn from his driveway (there's a sidewalk between the houses), in the winter, on a leash, to crap on Mum's lawn. I witnessed it.

In the spring, I waited until he and his wife were sitting outside. I took two shovels, scooped up the winters turds while talking to them about what a beautiful day it was. Then I walked over and asked him where he wanted the dogshit. He said that wasn't his dog that did that. I said, "I saw it done while you held the leash. Don't ever do it again." and dumped it on his lawn.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 03:48 PM

Great GNU

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 04:00 PM

Anyone who needlessly harms animals for any reason should be punished to the full extent of the law as well as named and shamed publicly.


I agree 100%!

Of course, this would include prosecuting cat owners who let their cats roam freely to needlessly kill and torture hundreds of small animals and birds.

There are products available that repel cats without harming them.

It is not my responsibility or financial obligation to do that which the cat owner should be doing. The cost of a .22 round is negligible and if one is a decent shot, a one-time expense.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats from fouling your lawns
From: gnu
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 04:08 PM

As for cats, owners can train and regulate their cats to preclude most "problems" with neighbour's properties but, as is the case with many owners of any pet species, they simply don't know how to do it.

What REALLY burns my ass is the the SPCA doesn't know how to do it. Or, if they do, why are they not disseminating same? Seems like a terrible lack of responsibilty on their part to me... assuming they do know how to train animals. No?

Maybe I could write a pamphlet entitled, "Does your cat shit in the garden?" Hmmm... not a bad idea. I could make pennies!

Subject: BS: how to stop dogs from peeing and pooping
From: open mike
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 05:50 PM

in your yard...
actually this is a DS thread
a follow up to the "how to stop cats from fouling your yard" thread

how to stop dogs from peeing on your yard..
i see gallon milk jugs filled with water in
some yards and the people say these keep
dogs from peeing there...do they?

i see other info on line that says you should
take a gallon jug of water with you when you
take your dog for a walk and pour water where
they pee to dilute the urea and prevent the
area from being burned by the urine..

another site gives this description:
if you take plastic milk jugs and put a few inches of ammonia in them then perforate them above the ammonia line so air can flow it will keep most if not all dog off your lawn (you need to space them about the periphery of the lawn like a fence).

This is a tip I got from a home and garden expo and it does work. Here is how according to the H&G lady: Most dogs will avoid soiling another dog's territory if the other dog is dominant. The ammonia is very powerful and apparently mimics the ketones of a strong alpha/dominant animal thus marking your lawn as "occupied" to passing canines.

Subject: RE: BS: how to stop dogs from peeing and pooping
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:00 PM

Lots of dogs and cats in our neighborhood, but little problem except in alleys or open spaces under power lines. All back yards are fenced.
If a dog or cat is caught running loose, the owner can be fined, heavily for second offence or loss of animal possible..
Calgary Bylaws pretty strict on pets.

Leaving substances like ammonia, etc. out is prohibited; children might get into it.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:03 PM

Threads combined. I imagine there will be common elements, and I can't really see any reason for having two active threads on such closely-related subjects.

The more recent thread was titled how to stop dogs from peeing and pooping. A short answer might be to try either sutures or a rubber stopper.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: GUEST,999
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:11 PM

``Love your cats? Keep em home.``

Well said.

I have a skunk that comes near where I live. He does his thing and we get along. The friggin` cat that shits under my stairs is on my personal we`re gonna get acquainted list. It`s near the point where I`ll use a one and a half and rid the world of the unfriendly little sonuvabitch. Go shit on your owner`s property, because you have really pissed me off.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:25 PM

You need a wok?

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:26 PM

To a cat, the entire world is his property...unless a more aggressive cat says that this particular part of it isn't! You can hear them out there nightly, negotiating property rights. Not one of them gives a damn what any human being might have to say about it either.

While you're at it, people, you might as well go into a frenzy over the birds!!!! They are boldly shitting on your lawn, your roof, and you car. Possibly even your head. How dare they!??? Exterminate them all! Pass a law banning them! Build a plexiglass bubble over your entire property! Let them know you are serious about this issue.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: gnu
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:30 PM

Can't say as I blame ya 999. I draw the line at that kinda crap myself. Just kill it quick... no dumpsters.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 06:36 PM

Then too, there are fish, amphibians, crocodilians, and cetaceans. They are ALL shitting in "our" water!!! So let's kill them all. With a little political will and determination we could eventually create a totally antiseptic and perfect suburban world where no decent homeowner ever again must suffer the collateral damage and deep anxiety caused by the threat of unwanted animal shit.

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: open mike
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 08:14 PM

talk about critter poop--see these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedlot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_pig_farming

those of you who eat pork and beef may contribute to the vast
amount of nitrogen produced at these places

Subject: RE: BS: How to stop cats/dogs from fouling your lawns
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 08:28 PM

In UK we have very few JUST house cats as we dont have predators who may fancy Tiddles for lunch so over here cats roam wher they will .
My Old Mom had a cat who wandered in and out as he pleased , but seemed to come home for a poop ! A tray of cat litter seems to be the ideal !