BS: Natural gas explosion in California

Subject: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 11:42 PM

I've just read a REPORT on the terrible explosion and fire in San Bruno, today. I feel so badly for all of the people who have lost loved ones and their homes. I give thanks for strength and support for all involved. What a horrendous thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 03:18 AM

Horrendous -the only word for it. Leaves me speechless.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: open mike
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 04:02 AM

wow...very sad.
the news report says if they get FEMA help they can have certain assistance. When over 200 homes in our neighborhood burned 2 years ago we were told that FEMA would not be available unless 800 homes had been destroyed. (so the chances are slim that it would be available for this)

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 04:09 AM

It was just a year ago that a wildfire hit an area near me and destroyed 60 homes (no deaths or injuries). Two of the families who lost their homes were good friends. Insurance can't compensate for what these people have lost.
I wish them the best.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: Greg F.
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 09:02 AM

What genius ran a gas main that large thru the center of a residential neighborhood?

Stupidity kills.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: ClaireBear
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 12:42 PM

The gas main was put in in 1938, when the area was completely undeveloped. The housing development went in 20 years later -- making the builders the geniuses of whom you speak. But on the San Francisco peninsula, there isn't really a lot of undeveloped land except steep mountainsides, so that development was pretty much inevitable.

Also, though nothing is certain yet, we are hearing that there were complaints of the smell of gas and investigatory visits by PG&E going on for a couple of weeks before the explosion. So perhaps those geniuses will end up bearing some responsibility, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:07 PM

A similar explosion happened in Jamaic, Queens, NY in the 60s. Someone reported a gas smell and the fire and police departments went house to house knocking on doors - a doorbell could have set off an explosion. They got everyone out before it went. Fire trucks melted to the greound in the heat and no one died. I have always wondered how they found the courage to stay there and save eveyone in the neghborhood. I could not have gotten out of there fast enough.

Brave men.

The Gas Company in CA. says that if they are found negligent they will pay for everything. How do you pay for a human life or the pain in a burn ward? Very sad and frightening business.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:33 PM

I haven't had the chance to see it myself, but I am told that the headline in the WSJ about the story led with the negative effect on the stock price of the pipeline company, including the headline. Burn down the mission.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: open mike
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 02:41 PM

if you do NOT have insurance it is even worse....ask me.

one of the people in that town had a repairman scheduled to help light a pilot light on their oven which had been broken..

Torres, who lived a few doors from the blast site on Claremont Drive, had been waiting Thursday for PG&E to visit her home to light her gas stove, which had not been working.

the company also continues to look into reports about residents smelling gas last week....

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: bubblyrat
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 04:06 PM

So ....let me get this straight. You install a major gas pipeline in a sparsely populated area,in 1938. As years go by,you allow the same area to be subject to MASSIVE "development", but without moving ,altering,or bypassing this potentially lethal hazard ?? Is this the same country that is complaining about the BP oil rig in the Gulf Of Mexico ?? You know, I'm REALLY sorry, but,hey,come on !!

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: Greg F.
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 06:26 PM

Yup. Stupidity rules- no getting 'round it.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 07:18 PM

Stupidity Rules, yeah, but look at all the Economic Growth and Profit that was made ....

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 07:45 PM

mousethief, I am no fan of the WSJ, but that was not their first headline and story on the explosion, from what I saw online while searching just now. I did find the one you heard about HERE, but it appears to be a follow-up to several others which reported the loss of life, etc. before any mention of stocks falling, etc.

Sins, brave people, indeed. I would have been terrified. Remarkable no one was killed.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: open mike
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 03:00 AM

there were 4 deaths as i recall (and more may be added to the toll)
you mean no emergency responders killed?

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 11:56 PM

gas and oil are beginning to make nukes look better and better.

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: mousethief
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 12:24 AM

My mistake, kat. Trusting people I should check up on.

Has a conspiracy theory cropped up yet? Pipeline Workers for Truth? It was really the Obama administration blowing up the neighborhood because somebody that lived there had the original copy of his Kenyan birth certificate. It was destroyed in the fire. Convenient, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: GUEST,Guest - Lin
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 02:46 AM

Just heard on the local news tonight (Sept. 22, 2010) that they have now added 3 more people to the death list from the explosion in San Bruno, California. They are from one family, an 84 year old woman, her son about 50 years old and his son (a teenager but not sure his age) so this brings the total to 7 in that one neighborhood.
What a terrible, terrible disaster!

I had also read an article in the local newspaper that the equipment they currently use to detect leaks of this type or magnitude wouldn't have even worked as these were very old gas lines(about 62 years old) and the equipment for leaks made in recent years are for detection of current leaks. (or something like that).

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: GUEST,bert
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 03:23 PM

...What genius ran a gas main that large thru the center of a residential neighborhood?...

How do you deliver gas to residences without gas mains?

Subject: RE: BS: Natural gas explosion in California
From: gnu
Date: 23 Sep 10 - 03:26 PM

It could be that the neighbourhood was built after a main line was in place... maybe?

It certainly (?) would not have been done in reverse... unless the neighbourhood peeps had no say.