BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?

Subject: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST, Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:35 PM

1. Make fortune in city
2. Join Lib Dems and parade new-found social conscience.
3. Campaign against tuition fees.
4. Sign pledge to oppose tuition fees (didn't he?).
5. Accept coalition agreement that allows abstaining on tuition fees (and which does not say "subject to the principle of collective cabinet responsibility".
6. Decide to vote for tuition fees.


Two (or three) faced bastard.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:53 PM

Yes. He is a smooth talking bastard

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 08:29 AM

Mind you he probably got his inspiration from the Labour Party - who he was able to watch in action for 13 years! Back-tracking on tuition fees pales into insignificance compared with: presiding over an ever widening social divide, massive increases in pointless bureaucracy in both public and private sectors (meaningless 'targets' etc.) runaway house price inflation, vicious attacks on civil liberties, refusal to regulate banks and bankers and involving us in an illegal war. Not only those things but over those 13 years Labour had evolved into a bunch of smug, authoritarian, autocratic hypocrites who loved telling us what to do and think whilst, at the same time, doing dodgy deals with Big Business behind our backs!

Now, because of Labour's stupidity, we've got a Tory Government whose viciousness is slightly buffered by the Lib Dems. And what are Labour doing? Ignoring the Tories and trying to destroy the Lib Dems - that's what! F***ing cretins!!

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 09:47 AM

What have the Lib Dems done for us lately (apart from kiss conservative arses)?

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 10:26 AM

"What have the Lib Dems done for us lately (apart from kiss conservative arses)?"

Well, talking about where I live, Richard, the Lib Dems have done a hell of a lot more for us locally than the the smug, arrogant, sanctimonious, duplicitous Labour tw*ts in the Town Hall.

And I notice that you didn't confirm or deny any of the things that I said about Labour above.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: Rog Peek
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 02:39 PM

He's a politician isn't he? What do you expect? More faces than a dodecahedran!

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 07:55 PM

I imagine he'll be in the cabinet in the Lib-Lab coalition after the next election...

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 04:45 AM

I lived in Cable's constituency for nearly 40 years before I moved to the Eternal City. The Liberals in Twickenham made the Tories look like Quakers for cynicism, opportunism and corruption. No surprises.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:09 AM

"The Liberals in Twickenham made the Tories look like Quakers for cynicism, opportunism and corruption."

Meanwhile the Twickenham Labour Party was a model of shining rectitude, was it?

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 12:23 PM

Why this assumption that when anyone says something rude about one lot of bastards must be assumed to fail to recognise the other lots of bastards are bastards as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: JHW
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 12:35 PM

Cameron + Clegg - Conservative with a small c
Cameron + Clegg + Cable - Conservative with two small cs

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 01:28 PM

"Why this assumption that when anyone says something rude about one lot of bastards must be assumed to fail to recognise the other lots of bastards are bastards as well?"

Because I'm frustrated by the fact that no-one seems to be able to bring themselves to attack that 'sacred cow', the Labour Party. It was them that left us in the clutches of Cameron et.al. - not, I believe, primarily as a result of mismanagement or over-spending (although plenty of that did go on) but because they were 'extremely relaxed' about the outrageous behaviour of the banks and Big Business.

The two big enemies of the ordinary people of this country are the Tories and Labour - both of which are run by stary-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth ideologues (in Labour's case they pretend to be all leftist and progressive but, in reality, are just as obsessed by the Free Market as the Tories). But everyone is busily attacking the Lib Dems - I genuinely don't understand it! If the Lib Dems are brought down no-one in this country will benefit except the Tories and Labour - and most probably the former.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST, Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 03:26 PM

Look Shimmers, it's very simple - will you settle for bad or do you want worse?

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 07:12 AM

Richard, you present me with an impossible choice! My fear is that we will end up with "worse" i.e. a majority Tory government - and it will be Labour's fault - not the Lib Dems.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 09:06 AM

The Liberals in Twickenham were corrupt. The Labour Party in Twickenham were just a bit useless.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 11:26 AM

There's an article in today's Independent,by Steve Richrds, which tends to confirm all of my worst fears; he writes: "If there were an election tomorrow the Liberal democrats wpould be in danger of losing all of their seats in the South West, Labour would increase its share of the vote and the Conservatives would gain every constituency in the region without necessarily adding a single new supporter to its tally at the last election. The main beneficiary, if there is a collapse in Lib Dem support, is the Conservative Party."

He concludes his article as follows: "The Lib Dems are not the only ones in a no-win situation. At least Clegg has the excuse of power . The sweeping increases in top-up fees are terrible for the Lib Dems, but will prove to be as much as a nightmare for Labour. The political beneficiaries of the row will be the Conservatives, the only party that officially supports the policy that sparks such fiery opposition."

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 03:27 PM

My hope is that the AV vote succeeds, and that in the next election every coalition Lib-Dem has an anti-coalition Liberal on their tail, to wipe them out.

If the AV vote doesn't succeed, it will indeed be the Tories who benefit when their allies are wiped out in the next election.

Subject: RE: BS: Vince Cable - Vicar of Bray?
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 11:19 AM

Well, well, well. he was an oracle when in opposition! (Labour back benchers used to quote him when Brown bashing.)

You can't have it both ways...

So he turned out to be a politician after all.

If this is a revelation, then look down M'unlearned friend, your balls appear to be dropping at long last.