BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 May 12 - 01:10 AM

You just proved my point...AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STFU!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 May 12 - 12:20 AM

Standard troll tactic to avoid having to give a straight answer to a simple question. Be abusive and accuse others of not responding to HIS questions when he hasn't asked any questions, at least any that make any kind of sense. He's a somewhat less than "Artful Dodger."

As I keep saying, he's got NUTHIN'!!

GoofuS in action!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 May 12 - 11:12 PM

Sawzaw: "See, I mean when you are trying to have a logical discussion with someone who, frankly, hasn't kept up over the years then what you get is exactly waht we get from you, GfinS: right winged Republican propaganda..."


What???...are you quoting Bobert??

..and guys, I've been out all day...as far as the RUSH to instantly post my observations on the bill...Which I WILL do...how come, Bobert, you don't demand the same from yourself, when Sawzaw, posts a link, and wants YOUR response...that you have become famous for, in ducking and weaving??!!??..Same with mine!!...You just go anywhere, but answering OUR questions, then pose MY response, and DEMAND that it fits YOUR time table!!...It don't work that way!...nor will my post just take a few minutes to prepare...but it's all fine, when you want to shine on others seeking YOUR response..that usually you CAN'T respond to, because you haven't done your homework to know know jack diddly squat.
I have TWO responses to lay down, one for Bobert and one for TIA....and no matter how accurate they are, you're just chomping at the bit to throw your stupid-ass talking points at them.....SO, to be fair, I will make them so IF you disagree, which is fine, at least they will be accurate, and NOT propagandized!...(You won't recognize that!).
I have absolutely NO reason to bullshit you one way or another...I find that both the right and left wings are mere puppets of the guys pulling the strings BEHIND the curtain....YOU are the dupes that believe the act on stage. I DON'T!...So I have NO agenda to put forth.

What's that????...Which way did he go?..Which way did he go??

..and next time, when someone asks a response of you, I hope you remember this thread, and why a LOT of people don't take you seriously.

..as for Don, he just makes stuff up, by putting words in people's mouths, and then arguing those words!!

..and John Pee....you should NEVER accuse others of the vindictiveness that you spout off. This must be one of the first posts you've done, that didn't go off with one of your wannabe insult rants!....People like you(plural) only do that because you ain't got shit to say!...and are just waiting for those who do, to give you an original thought...problem is, those original thoughts, ain't yours!

Psychic vampires need a host to feed off of.

Now when I'm damn good and ready, I'll post it....and if I didn't need to swat some Mudcat gnats, we could have used THIS post to start!

No insults in the above, just a direct answer....can you handle it?


Stop diverting, and let me lay it down...OK?....because if I have to address this bullshit again, YOU are the ones making it take longer..capice?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 25 May 12 - 09:55 PM

Best post I ever read by ya, brucie...

They say they don't like what Obama has cobbled together under the most difficult circumstances since 1860 in this country then put up or...

...shut up!!!

GfinS ain't gonna do no heavy lifting here... I would bet not only my farm but every farm in the universe that GfinS has shot yet another wad... There ain't no hiding... There ain't a lot of fixes here...

What we got was all that was there for the getting... Does it fix our health care problems??? Probably not but it is a start... The longest journey starts with a single step... So we've taken the first step toward copying other countries that have figured out health care??? Great... Step in the right direction...

Going back is like going back to slavery... That's what GfinS and his buds don't get... Why do they want America to fail???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,999
Date: 25 May 12 - 09:41 PM

For nearly 50,000,000 people, it's a new day. Take that away and America will see a revolution like never before. I think even the 'dumbing down' by TV will not be able to halt it. There is always a point at which people say, "This far and no further!"

A key point in negotiation (and fighting ) is NEVER give up anything you've gained unless by doing so you will gain something greater.

I'd let GfS digest the act and its assorted footnotes and ask him when he finishes digesting said--what he's read. This shit ain't going away. There is present;y no hurry, imo.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 25 May 12 - 07:23 PM

These people won't debate policy, John... They don't understand it so they just go into their default positions of attacking the folks who have all along been talking policy...

I guess we have reached the end of another discussion with the accusers hiding in the bushes and lobbing insults...

Normal...

Yawn...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: John P
Date: 25 May 12 - 02:45 PM

GfS, my offer stands: a moderated debate where logic has to make sense, personal insults get you thrown out, all facts come from mainstream news sources, and where you actually have to support what you say when your fallacies are pointed out to you.

Until you are willing to engage in a real debate, you have nothing worthwhile to say.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 May 12 - 01:46 PM

This thread has gone completely wall-eyed. Focusses on everything but the subject. And who's fault is that?

I note that GoofuS is still dodging the issue and ladling posts out of the cesspool of his mind by indulging in such brilliant sallies as referring to John P. (a musician of considerable stature and an intelligent and thoughtful person whom I have somehow not yet met, although we both live in the same city) as "John Pee," and taking my post-ending "Touché!" and, out of the common currency of his thought processes, coming up with "douche."

If he could ever get his head out of his obsession with crotches, he probably still wouldn't be able to come up with a cogent thought.

A waste of bandwidth authored by a waste of protoplasm.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 May 12 - 01:30 PM

"Anything but discuss the topic.."

"The blues??? Different story... Ain't no delicious blues songs... None!!! But I like the blues more than I like delicious music...

As for the fear and loathing assertion... Very pathetic... I neither fear or loathe you... Musically, I respect you... Politically, I feel sorry for you... You don't seem to want to learn anything new and you parrot right wing bumper sticker policy positions...

Do you have any idea what the $5T in new deficits is about??? Maybe if you were better read you'd understand that 100% of these deficits were back end boobie traps in Bush's budgets... Economists predicted them down to 5% going back to 2006... Jesus as President and Oral Roberts as VP couldn't have changed them...

See, I mean when you are trying to have a logical discussion with someone who, frankly, hasn't kept up over the years then what you get is exactly waht we get from you, GfinS: right winged Republican propaganda..."

Again, Bobert projects what he does onto others.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 25 May 12 - 12:58 PM

Well, that is the TeaStrategy... This is what the goons did at the Town Hall meetings and that's what the NRA does and thats what the 3 blind mice do here... The correct term is subterfuge... Anything but discuss the topic...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 May 12 - 12:39 PM

Yeah, Bobert - all you need is Bearded Bruce in here slinging name-calling shit and this thread will close for sure.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 25 May 12 - 11:54 AM

Wow!!!

Three posts in a row by GfsawS and not one on the subject of this thread...

Normal...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 May 12 - 11:22 AM

Sawzaw: "Bobert is the hater of things and the bully but then he projects that on others."

He ain't the only one, either!!!
Just look at the posts of all those 'other' 'so-called' liberals' who are no more 'liberal' than Hitler or Charles Manson!!

These are the same nitwits who think a totalitarian state is the answer to all of life's mysterious questions!!

Personally, I'd rather 'the state' get out of everyone's personal business..unless requested by that same person!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 May 12 - 11:14 AM

So Bobert is saying that even though he admits to lighting stink bombs and that he shouldn't do it but can't help himself, someone else is at fault? Someone else is lighting stink bombs and has OCD.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Sounds like another Bobert "fact" like 2263 sq mi is no bigger than 68.2 square miles.

I would like to know if his health care costs have gone down under the "Affordable Health Care Act"

But he will only respond with hostile personal attacks.

He attacks me first and then claims I have some sort of OCD when I respond.

"hate Brigade"? That is Bobert's projection on me. When have I ever said I hate anything? Anybody here know when? Since when is the posting facts a hate thing? Does Bobert hate facts?

Bobert is the one who claims other people hate this or that, his opinion, his spin, and then states over and over that he hates this or that.

Bobert is the hater of things and the bully but then he projects that on others.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 May 12 - 10:26 AM

John Pee: "GfS, my offer stands: a moderated debate where logic has to make sense...."

Are you forfeiting already???????


GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: John P
Date: 25 May 12 - 10:18 AM

Absolutely pathetic, in lieu of an intelligent discussion...

GfS, my offer stands: a moderated debate where logic has to make sense, personal insults get you thrown out, and all facts come from mainstream news sources. And where you actually have to support what you say when its fallacies are pointed out to you. Put up or shut up about intelligent discussion. While you're at it, learn to take a joke.

You, too, Akenaton: Let's have a real debate on the subject of civil rights for gay people. I agree with your list of internet discussion irritants, although not with your assessment of me in that regard. I would add two more irritants: people who enter discussions, make unsupported statements, refuse to support them, and then wait a day or so and make the same statement all over again. Thread hijackers. Like you. The second is people who claim that everyone who disagrees with them is a member of a brain-washed herd who can't think for themselves. Like you do. If you can't maintain a debate that you start and won't deal with other people as individuals, you are just a waste of everyone else's time. Put up or shut up.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 25 May 12 - 10:07 AM

Me thinks that polymorphous perversity has come back stronger than ever...

What ever happened to that health care plan, GfinS???

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,999
Date: 25 May 12 - 09:19 AM

Akenaton: Please check your personal messages on Mudcat.

BM

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 25 May 12 - 01:30 AM

Of course, the one item that doesn't get mentioned, is that the Dems could have passed anything they wished to in 2008, by simply changing the filibuster rule on the first day the Senate was in session, and getting rid of that ghastly super-majority bullshit.
The GOP doesn't own all the assholes.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 May 12 - 12:28 AM

Saul Goldilocks: "Craniorectal inversion" I have been using that expression for years. I thought I wrote it. Great to hear it used by someone else!"

John P: "You know, GfS also suffers from a severe affliction. He has craniorectal inversion. It really has a big effect on his life."

Absolutely pathetic, in lieu of an intelligent discussion...but that is so indicative of these two nutcases....so I guess, if I want any shit from you two, I'll just squeeze your heads!

..and Don, you used to fence?....and all this time when you had a foil in your hands I thought you just adjusting your hat size!

Just got in...read the posts..will comment on them, and to shorten the typing time, I'll address this on briefly...Don, your link, that you thought was so earth shattering, and your 'touche'...you might mean 'douche'...I addressed that shit a LONG time ago, and you even commented on my post...let me 're-freshen' your memory, in case the 'douche' won't wash....I posted that in the mid '70's that the studies about homosexuality were going through some academic 'changes'..(depending on the funding, for the desired results)..that was when they were 'replacing' science with the more politically correct horseshit about in being genetic...then the study of genetics improved, since then and behold, they couldn't find that magical gene. YOU even posted a link, in which was done by a homosexual PhD, who also, (if you actually would have READ the whole article, stated that they could not find the gene either...this is not anything new, or earth shattering..maybe to you...but you seemed not to flash, yet, that truth is rarely 'politically correct'!~....I'm glad you liked to fence, did it a couple of times myself, but I thought Sumo wrestling would be more your speed...being as your knickers are always in a twist!....(Hey, glad to provide you both entertainment and a challenge.....when are you going to return the favor?)

Oh, and based on those 'old studies' that tried to be replaced with the new nonsense, TIA is another example of displaying classic symptoms, and providing a living example of EXACTLY what they have been saying....which I've been chomping at the bit to address...but I just got in...and need to settle in...I WILL address it...WITH great enthusiasm!!...but it won't listen, so, I'll suggest you 'cut and paste' it to your mirror, and read it occasionally...and as it starts to sink in, you can start to stop bull-sitting yourself...!!

As to Obamacare, I will post on that, but not in this post..I just got back....I'll cover all the bases.

Akenaton, Thanks for the kind words.....!! ...or should I say, 'TRUE words!!

Guest, 999....good post as well..(ooops wrong thread)....

Good night.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: John P
Date: 24 May 12 - 06:31 PM

Be careful, Akenaton. You have written so many offensive posts on this site that you sound like the pot calling the kettle black. If it were worth the time I could copy and paste pages of your inappropriate and untrue insults. At least my comment was a joke. And true, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: akenaton
Date: 24 May 12 - 04:52 PM

See what I mean?

"Craniorectal inversion"...............smell it?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: saulgoldie
Date: 24 May 12 - 07:56 AM

"Craniorectal inversion" I have been using that expression for years. I thought I wrote it. Great to hear it used by someone else!

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: John P
Date: 23 May 12 - 11:07 PM

You know, GfS also suffers from a severe affliction. He has craniorectal inversion. It really has a big effect on his life.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,999
Date: 23 May 12 - 04:40 PM

Ake, your remark brought a few tears to me eyes. Thank you. I have pm'ed you. RSVP, buddy, to either here or the e-mail address.

BM

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 May 12 - 04:32 PM

Referring to Sawz's last post, to be abundantly clear.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 May 12 - 04:04 PM

And what would you call his LAST little bon mot, if not a "stink bomb??"

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 23 May 12 - 04:03 PM

Sorry, Saws...

Call your counselor...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 May 12 - 01:53 PM

Julius Sawzaw is a fine one to accuse people of throwing stink bombs. This thread, started by him, opened with a stink bomb.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Sawzaw
Date: 23 May 12 - 11:00 AM

Bobert the shrink:

"I don't think it's helpful for him for me to play into his problems"

"he has a mental condition"

Bobert the Troll:

"Then I sneak out to Mudcat when them's is asleep and light stink bombs here in the Catbox... I know I shouldn't do it but "

Ya see, Bobert does exactly what he falsely claims other people do and that it is wrong when they do it.

"I know I shouldn't do it" tells us "he knows it is wrong and he shouldn't do it. The "but" tells us he cannot stop his self. He cannot control his OCD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, a mental condition.

The only way he can relieve his distress and feelings of guilt is to project his admitted stinkbombing behavior on someone else.

Like his "facts". When confronted with the fact that his "facts" are not factual, he claims the person disproving his "facts" does not present any facts.

This is nothing personal, just an observation. Bobert is apparently a good guy with good intentions but he is just misguided by his inability to distinguish facts from spin.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 23 May 12 - 07:38 AM

Still working on the details, I'm sure...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 22 May 12 - 11:39 PM

Screw the health care plan. I am still waiting for the promised eye opening revelations about the psychology of being gay. The counselor promised those to us about two years ago. Zero, zip, nadah. Sorry, memory of an elephant Cecil...I mean lansing...oh never mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 May 12 - 04:43 PM

Thanks for the kind words, Bobert!

And Ake, I agree with what you said in your last post.

I was not able to go to public school early on. So the local school district sent "home teachers" two or three times a week, who would give me individual tutoring on various subjects, along with homework assignments. A lot of individual attention. As a kid, I was an avid reader, reading just about anything I could get my hands on, including going systematically through a set of encyclopedia. I had playmates in the neighborhood, but during the hours that they were in school, I had my nose in a book. I didn't go to public school until high school. Expecting to find myself behind the other kids, I learned, happily, that in certain areas I was way ahead! Including study habits.

I'm a careful reader. Indeed, as I have mentioned before, I worked for a time as a technical writer and editor, often trying to unravel what is really being said in, among other things, government documents, and translate it into understandable and meaningful English. Example of a typical government document circumlocution:   "A mistake was made." Translation:   "Somebody blew it, but nobody is willing to take responsibility."

I might note that one person's fact is another person's "untruth." I can give you a long list of examples from this forum if you insist.   And one person's "misrepresentation" might be another person's honest interpretation of what someone else said—or wrote. And that misinterpretation might very well come from the manner in which the "misrepresented" statement was framed.

If you say what you mean in a clear, straightforward manner, there is less chance of it being misinterpreted or "misrepresented."

Case in point:   many of the things you have written make you sound very much like a Marxist revolutionist. If you are not, then I suggest that you make clear what you are really trying to say.

I would make the same suggestion to GoofuS, but I think he's beyond help.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: akenaton
Date: 22 May 12 - 02:33 PM

Hi Bob of course its sad about the Polio, a couple of my primary school friends contracted it and survived, but i doubt if it has made them any more insightful than the next guy.
I, several years ago survived an horrific car accident in which i was almost crushed to death in slow motion, but I dont expect anybody here to treat me any better than they do because of that.

Here we are largely anonymous, no women, no men, no rich, no poor,no sick, no healthy.

We are what we write, and we can easily spot the ones with a real interest in debate, from those who just want to make mischief.

I have only 2 rules for this forum, that I and those that I correspond with, tell the truth to the best of our ability and do not try to misrepresent what our correspondent has written.

I think that it is senseless to attempt debate with anyone who does not observe these rules.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 12 - 07:37 PM

Better watch yer back, Ake... Don might come crashing thru yer window with foil in hand and carve you up like a Thanksgiving turkey...

Don, however, ain't into fiction... He is who he says he is... His positions are well thought out... And he and I have more than our politics in common: polio... I faired better but was told I might not walk unassisted again... Tell ya what, Ake ol' buddy... When yer young and you have polio it gives you - no, makes you - deal with life that children aren't supposed to understand... They say that our brains aren't developed enough... Polio survivors know differently... No, maybe polio didn't push the hormone thing that kicks in at 13 or so but it does open up a lot of thoughts about life in general and our purpose... Purdy heady stuff for kids...

I understand that... No, Don ain't gonna lie to ya'... He will, however, bite, kick, scratch and do whatever he thinks will work... That's the nature of all of us polio survivors... We learned this early and it's now part of each and every one of us...

Square business...

Now, in Don's words, "Back to the regularly scheduled program"...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 12 - 06:26 PM

"...telling untruths and misrepresentation of other member's posts on an internet forum...."

Examples, please.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 12 - 06:22 PM

Actually Saul is one of the few "trolls" on this forum.
He rarely has anything of value to say on any subject, other than a few cut and pastes to support his view.
His main MO is to make snide remarks and contrive to stir the shit at every opportunity.
Those whom he labels "trolls"....which is code for anyone who disagrees with the popular line, at least make an effort to explain their position, no matter how daft it may be. Saul makes no attempt to debate with anyone, but relies on mud slinging.....possibly because he has fuck all to form ideas with.

Bobert is a genuine good guy who wears his heart on his sleeve, I think he knows the system is rotten and not fit for purpose, but he has invested a lifetime....as I have, fighting against injustice and just cant bear to look backwards on all these wasted years, so just keeps on keeping on like the good soldier that he is.

Don I'm afraid has committed the cardinal sin in my book of telling untruths and misrepresentation of other member's posts on an internet forum......a hanging offence normally, but in this case i have banished him to Room 101(Orwell), where he may amuse himself with other like minded creatures(John P, Lox,cant remember the other one.

Bruce is my best cyber friend, kindness personified, open minded and open hearted, has the skill to put his ideas across without being needlessly hurtful....how I wish i could be more like him.

Saws, Sanity, little Hawk and a few others not contributing here, are
the people who put some oomph!!!! into this forum, they make it interesting and alive......wouldn't it be hellish if we all agreed with one another ALL of the time?

So its actually quite easy to spot a "troll", they cant really be bothered to formulate any contribution to the debate and are always accompanied by the smell of shit!

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 12 - 04:32 PM

For my part, I find Goofus to be a useful sparring partner. Let me put it this way:   I used to fence.

Note of explanation here. How could I fence if I had polio when I was two years old and walked with a leg brace and aluminum forearm crutches? One evening when I was fourteen years old, after overdosing on novels by Rafael Sabatini (Scaramouche, Captain Blood, The Black Swan) and Errol Flynn swashbucklers (some of which were based on Sabatini's novels), I dropped in on a fencing class at the local YMCA to watch some real, modern fencing as contrasted with the choreographed stuff in the movies. When I told the instructor, Katherine Modrell, who was Pacific International Women's Open Champion at the time, that I would love to be able to fence, but obviously it was impossible, she said, "Well, wait a minute. Let's see what you can do."

It turned out that I could stand in an approximation of the "on guard" position with a foil in one hand and a crutch in the other. I couldn't run up and down the strip or lunge, but Katherine reasoned that, with a strong defense and a fast riposte, I might do quite well. We tried it.

The result was that I would never win any Olympic medals, but I DID fence in tournaments regularly for a good fifteen years. By the way, these were regular competitions for able-bodied fencers, not a "Special Olympics" kind of thing. I didn't win any first place medals or trophies, but I do have a nice collection of seconds and thirds. Plus, I was considered by very good fencers as "downright dangerous. Don't underestimate him!" And I had one helluva lot of fun!

Thank you, Katherine Modrell!!

Okay!

I found that many fencers who were relative beginners or just not very good (didn't fence with their brains in gear) made good practice partners. They would attack with a great deal of ferocity, against which I could practice various combinations of parries, followed by a rapid and accurate riposte. Some of them got most upset because this guy leaning on a crutch, for God's sake, should have been a push-over. But they couldn't touch me, and fencing with them and practicing defensive tactics with rapid ripostes and counter-attacks gave me an opportunity to hone my swordsmanship skills. Sort of like practicing scales.

This kind of practice stood me in good stead when, in tournaments, I came up against really good, strong fencers.

It I take GoofuS's ill-thought-out and generally uncoordinated sallys as if they were serious and practice countering them, then when, in real life, I come up against a hard-charging Right Wing liberal-hater, I've already encountered most of the pokes and jabs they're coming off with and I'm well practiced in countering them and responding with highly accurate thrusts of facts and data.

Oh! By the way! Thanks, GoofuS, for the practice.

Touché! and all that old stuff.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 May 12 - 03:52 PM

What Bobert hasn't said but I will is that he has a head harder than Ayer's Rock, no offense, Bobster.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: saulgoldie
Date: 21 May 12 - 03:25 PM

OK, Bobster. Thanks. I geddit. Carry on (not that you needed my permission)...

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 12 - 03:17 PM

Lemme relate a story that my mom loves to tell, Saul...

When I was a kid I had a dough-nut route... What that meant was a territory and once a week my distributor would meet me at a specified spot with 30 or so 1-dozen box of dough-nuts and I would knock on doors, sell them and make a couple three bucks in a couple three hours...

There was this one house on my route where the people always said, "No" and one night after my route I was telling my folks about my day and this one house came up in the conversation... So my mom asked, "If they never buy from you why do you bother knocking on their door every week?" to which I replied...

..."well, one day they may change their mind..."

Guess I'm like Don's doc in the link above in that people, if given enough time and facts, ***can** change their minds...

BTW, Saul... I purdy much ignore Sawz because, well, he has a mental condition and is obsessed with me and I don't think it's helpful for him for me to play into his problems...

GfinS, on the other hand, is at least entertaining and works hard on the insults... Of course, GfinS wouldn't admit it but, hey???

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: saulgoldie
Date: 21 May 12 - 03:02 PM

Thread aside: Why do youse guys even bother with the trolls? They offer no wisdom, no facts, no cogent argument. They only offer hostility and invective. And they mostly don't even offer anything of musical interest above the line. That is trollism, if they ever was such.

Are you hoping that if you keep at it that eventually they will somehow find their "good side" and leave their "dark side?" Maybe there is something here that I just don't get??

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 May 12 - 02:45 PM

This is off the subject, but I just wanted to be sure that GoofuS sees THIS when (and IF) he comes back.

Ake should take a good look at it too.

Now, back to our regular broadcast. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Stringsinger
Date: 21 May 12 - 11:34 AM

Problem is that the "mandates" made the insurance companies richer at the expense of
universal health care. Obama copped out.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 May 12 - 10:58 PM

Like I said Bobert It's buzzed up boozed up folks who say freaky stuff like this that need Betty Ford:

"I first started going over there I'd mess with em' [troll] and they'd get all upset and jump up an' down but these days they they ignore me like I'm Casper, 'er something. But I still drop by and mess with 'em jus' fir fun."

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 20 May 12 - 09:18 PM

Gotta love ya', Sawz...

You are such a freaky person... I mean, out there...

You have these little OCD things that you and Betty Ford's people have been trying to work out and you do really well and then...

...you fall off the wagon...

Call 1-800-BETFORD... Your counselor has already called me and told me that you went over the wall... They are worried...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 May 12 - 09:13 PM

Bobert:

"Saws is a troll... Nothin' new here"

Bobert:
"Enough, let me go on over there, light a stink bomb and skeee-adddle"

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 20 May 12 - 06:52 PM

Yup, Tea, Tea and more Tea... All the while SCREAMING, "I'm not one of them!!!"

Hahahahaha...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 May 12 - 06:38 PM

I really didn't think GoofuS would be so evasive as to take a plane out of town in order to avoid answering a straight question, but—looks like!

Anyway. . . .

On the 22nd of April, 2012 at 11:26 a.m. Mudcat time, and on this thread, GoofuS said:   "The fact is, WE cannot afford a giant, intrusive government, whose operating costs (including bribes), can be sustained by a shrinking economy, due to the reckless disregard, to the private sector...WHICH PAYS THE BILL!"

Goofus is not generally given to clear statements and this one is pretty muddy as usual, but THAT looks like a clear statement of the Republican, Right Wing, Tea Party, Ayn Rand political position.

Goofus, you've been tumbled! You have stated you position.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats Bailing out on Obamacare Etc
From: Bobert
Date: 19 May 12 - 05:47 PM

Actually, "Nothing" might be giving GfinS the *benefit* of the doubt... Could be on the underside of nothin'...

Awwwww, just funnin"... I'm sure that it's nothin' short of nothin'...

B:~)