BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama

Subject: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:59 AM

Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights'
ABC News

A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.

Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."

"Instead of making the world safer, America's violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends," Carter wrote.

While the total number of attacks from unmanned aircraft, or drones, and the resulting casualties are murky, the New America Foundation estimates that in Pakistan alone 265 drone strikes have been executed since January 2009 . Those strikes have killed at least 1,488 people, at least 1,343 of them considered militants, the foundation estimates based on news reports and other sources.

In addition to the drone strikes, Carter criticized the current president for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention center open, where prisoners "have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers."

The former president blasted the government for allowing "unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications."

He also condemned recent legislation that gives the president the power to detain suspected terrorists indefinitely, although a federal judge blocked the law from taking effect for any suspects not affiliated with the September 11 terrorist attacks.

"This law violates the right to freedom of expression and to be presumed innocent until proved guilty, two other rights enshrined in the declaration," Carter said.

While Carter never mentioned Obama by name, he called out "our government" and "the highest authorities in Washington," and urged "concerned citizens" to "persuade Washington to reverse course and regain moral leadership."

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 11:44 AM

And electing a Republican president would: -

(a) increase a tendency towards totalitarianism? or
(b) decrease such a tendency?

Take a reality pill!

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 12:06 PM

Carter should be acutely aware that under the guidance of every President since Truman the CIA has uniformly overridden and setaside the moral, ethical and legal guidelines that once informed the Constitution of the United States. Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Kennedy. Carter was the only one who tried to steer the madness back toward the polestar of decency but he did not succeed. This is partly because the CIA has been riddled with screaming psychos ever since the days of Wild Bill Donovan. Under Bush, driven by the melodrama of the 9-11 attacks, the CIA grew into a monstrosity of human abuse, of which Abu Ghraib was the tip of the iceberg.

Sawx, as usual, is being blinded by the light.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 12:44 PM

Or the dark.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 01:13 PM

Well, I wasn't, and am still not a fan of Carter, either..but the FACT remains, for whatever reason, Democrats ARE distancing themselves from Obama...so much, I think there may be a good chance that he'll run with Hillary, instead of Joe Biden. it is widely reported that the two don't really like each other, but I think he's do it, just to get the women's vote...similar to pandering to the 'Latino' vote...I mean, Obama 'racial' and 'gender profiling'???....well, I guess to get a vote, why not?...but to enforce a law??...Nawww!!
BTW, if the Democrats are so much for the unions, and are against 'free trade' states, and 'right to work' laws...how in the hell do they justify North American FREE TRADE Agreement, with Mexico???? Are you thinking that when an employer hires an illegal alien, that the worker joins a union?????
That's what happens when you listen to politicians speaking out of both sides of their mouths!
Nafta got Clinton elected the first time, when he was approached by Rockefeller, when he was, then Governor of Arkansas...it was for the '1%ers'....He also signed Glass-Steagal, for the '1%ers'...and Obama sent Immelt to China, for the '1%ers'..the multinational corporations...Now you want us to believe that you are against the '1%ers'...when your party has screwed this country catering to them????????????????....Now, those are FACTS..don't bother countering with unsupported talking points and accusations of Tea party this or that!...and I already know that the Republicans have been doing the same...TWO WRONGS don't make a 'right', nor excuse the behavior of the other!!!!!!........THOSE policies, and the war, have done more to fuck up this country, politically, financially, and cause divisions between Americans, both parties, who normally, are pretty good people. We need people to stand up, and represent themselves, if the parties won't, in lieu of 'special interests'...neither party is doing it!
Oh, and another BTW..Chicago, 1968, Democratic Convention..who were the protesters protesting??..Why???..What side were YOU sympathetic with??...Why???
Some things never change...only the rationalizations!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 01:23 PM

"Right to work" = Right to live poor...

The per capita income in those states is 70% of non right-to-work states...

Might of fact, you can trace the stagnation of the working class's wages to Reagan busting the Air Traffic Controllers union which signaled to every Boss Hog out there that it was not only open season on unions but that the government would help... Which it did and continues to do...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 01:41 PM

I think that Sawzaw needs two things explained to him. The first is singular vs plural. Jimmy Carter is only one Democrat. The second is the difference between "distancing and criticizing." Would anyone care to wager that Carter will not vote for Obama or support him on other issues.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 01:43 PM

And perhaps it should be explained to him that for loyal, patriotic, respectful Americans. It is "President Obama" and the President's name is not to be used as a curse word.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 02:58 PM

Ooops!!! Would anyone care to wager that President Carter will not vote for President Obama

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 04:06 PM

FFS - pause: breathe: construct grammatical sentences: examine the logical structures of what you say: breathe again: rewrite.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 04:08 PM

I think it was Will Rogers who said, "I'm not a member of any particularly organized political party... I'm a Democrat..." Dems tend to have a larger tent and therefore, a lot more differences within the party...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 05:39 PM

I would hope that Democrats feel enough love for their country to disagree with any leader who does stuff that is morally repugnant, and that includes when the leader is Obama. We know for sure that the Republicans have zero love for either their country or the notion of democracy.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 05:40 PM

It would be refreshing to see something similar from Republican ex-presidents, but hell ain't froze over yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 06:22 PM

Bobert: ""Right to work" = Right to live poor...
The per capita income in those states is 70% of non right-to-work states..."

Are you addressing an issue??..or trying to pull another diversion, and not address the issue???

'Free Trade' does the SAME thing to the unions...what are you missing, here?....Rockefeller/Clinton gave us that one....to benefit the '1%ers'.

Here...try it again:

"BTW, if the Democrats are so much for the unions, and are against 'free trade' states, and 'right to work' laws...how in the hell do they justify North American FREE TRADE Agreement, with Mexico???? Are you thinking that when an employer hires an illegal alien, that the worker joins a union?????
That's what happens when you listen to politicians speaking out of both sides of their mouths!
Nafta got Clinton elected the first time, when he was approached by Rockefeller, when he was, then Governor of Arkansas...it was for the '1%ers'....He also signed Glass-Steagal, for the '1%ers'...and Obama sent Immelt to China, for the '1%ers'..the multinational corporations...Now you want us to believe that you are against the '1%ers'...when your party has screwed this country catering to them????????????????....Now, those are FACTS..don't bother countering with unsupported talking points and accusations of Tea party this or that!...and I already know that the Republicans have been doing the same...TWO WRONGS don't make a 'right', nor excuse the behavior of the other!!!!!!........THOSE policies, and the war, have done more to fuck up this country, politically, financially, and cause divisions between Americans, both parties, who normally, are pretty good people. We need people to stand up, and represent themselves, if the parties won't, in lieu of 'special interests'...neither party is doing it!
Oh, and another BTW..Chicago, 1968, Democratic Convention..who were the protesters protesting??..Why???..What side were YOU sympathetic with??...Why???
Some things never change...only the rationalizations!!
.....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 06:32 PM

"It would be refreshing to see something similar from Republican ex-presidents, but hell ain't froze over yet. "

You have to cut the last GOP ex-President some slack for not criticizing the sitting GOP President. He'd be sniping at his son.

I guess you have to give the most recent Ex some credit for not going after Obama. Well maybe not. It would just remind people how we got in this mess.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 06:46 PM

Altho Carter has risen in the publics esteem since (and because?) he left office I am not always impressed on his opinions, whether it's his bias against Isreal or Obama. So he won't influecne MY voie

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 06:46 PM

I was invited to go to the '68 Convention and protest/sing, but I refused to work on behalf of the Yippee group, and since they invited me I declined. The man I supported in that election year was Eugene McCarthy. Mary told me she liked the campaign song I wrote for her dad best of all. That alone made it worth writing.

Until McCarthy showed in the primary elections for the Democratic Party that a peace candidate had a chance, he was alone. Indeed, Kilroy was there. (One of McCarthy's poems is today included in high school poetry texts: "Kilroy was here.") The title of the poem has itself an interesting history, likely unknown to most Americans.

However, the boondoggles of the past have accumulated, and now the once best-hope country in this world is beginning to fall--if it hasn't already--into the hands of moneyed people, and what was once a proud and important Republic is fast turning into another tin-pot 'democracy' with little left but its weapons and bluster. I hope you Yanks know what you're doing. It sure doesn't look so to most of the world.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:16 PM

Define "free trade", GfinS... Your words, please... This oughtta be fun...

BTW, NAFTA wasn't on progressives... Liberals weren't for it at the time...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: kendall
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:40 PM

The unions have been bleeding members for years. Now, only 1 in 10 workers belongs to a union.
I guess they want to go back to the dark ages when a laborer earned 5 cents an hour.And no benefits.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:44 PM

Or back a little further, Capt'n... Like before the Emancipation Proclamation...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 07:56 PM

This liberal ain't for it now. Some is free trade and other stuff is protected. Whatever works for the moneyed class I suppose.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 08:02 PM

Free trade doesn't exist... Hasn't in my life time... Maybe for ever... It is a "slogan" that people use to get their way in rigging the system better for them...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 09:29 PM

1-20-2017.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 09:33 PM

Hillary...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 09:34 PM

"The inauguration of the President of the United States takes place during the commencement of a new term of a President of the United States, which is every four years on January 20. Prior to the Twentieth Amendment, the date was March 4. The day a presidential inauguration occurs is known as "Inauguration Day".

The only inauguration element mandated by the United States Constitution is that the President make an oath or affirmation before that person can "enter on the Execution" of the office of the presidency. However, over the years, various traditions have arisen that have expanded the inauguration from a simple oath-taking ceremony to a day-long event, including parades, speeches, and balls."

I presume the balls spoken of in the last paragraph are those that once belonged to the American people?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jun 12 - 11:37 PM

Bobert: "BTW, NAFTA wasn't on progressives... Liberals weren't for it at the time.."

well, Clinton rammed it through..they took a sneak vote when all the Republicans had already lest for Christmas break....and Clinton was representing himself as a 'liberal' at the time..Hillary is of the same ilk....shills for the same bankers you say you dislike...and the Bushes!..and that's a fact! If Obama runs with Hillary, to get the votes, it would be tantamount to a Obama/Bush ticket. when it comes to the really big stuff, the Clintons have pretty much always gone with the Bushes..both of them...including Mena, for Papa Bush!! These pecker-heads go WAY back, together.
..................................................................

Here's a breaking flash for a Mudcat exclusive!: NOBODY HAS BROUGHT THIS UP, YET...............
With all the scandal about 'Fast and Furious'...and all the 'noble intentions of a slick plan' to catch the cartels using the guns(so they say)....their 'excuse' is just as lame, and illegal!..Didn't anyone inform the AG Holder, that ENTRAPMENT is both illegal and could have gotten everything they got as a result, thrown out of court???...they can't even make up good lies!!!

You heard it first...on Mudcat!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 07:37 AM

"Sawx, as usual, is being blinded by the light"

I never said a word about my position Amos. Why are you blindly attacking me?

Attack Carter for being wrong or right and explain why he is wrong or right. Or are you afraid to?

Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.) said he voted for GOP Sen. John McCain for president in 2008, not Barack Obama.

The revelation by Taylor, an 11-term incumbent facing a tough reelection battle, is one of the most extreme examples yet of a Democrat distancing himself from his party's unpopular leaders.

Taylor, who has been taking step after to step to highlight his independence from Obama and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), told a reporter for The Sun Herald of South Mississippi about his secret ballot two years ago.

"I did not vote for Obama. I voted for Sen. McCain," Taylor told reporter Maria Recio, she said in an interview with The Hill. "Better the devil you know."

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 08:32 AM

For the one millionth time, GfinS... Bill Clinton isn't a liberal... He's a Nixon-ite Republican...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: pdq
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 08:57 AM

The story about Rep. Gene Taylor is a bit old, since that years election saw him defeated by Steven McCarty Palazzo, the Republican candidate. Palazzo is a certified public accountant but served in the Marines during Desert Storm.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 09:08 AM

"that for loyal, patriotic, respectful Americans. It is "President Obama" and the President's name is not to be used as a curse word."




This comment is offensive to those of us who complained about the comments on "Bush" and the use of HIS name here on Mudcat.

If you want to define " loyal, patriotic, respectful Americans" you had best be willing to accept the same criticism given those on the conservative side when they were thought to be defining those terms.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: John P
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 09:44 AM

It is possible to distance oneself from President Obama while still knowing that voting for Mitt Romney would make the things one doesn't like about Obama a hundred times worse. So . . . distancing myself from Obama while distancing myself a lot more from Romney. It doesn't really change any equations.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:44 AM

Bobert: "For the one millionth time, GfinS... Bill Clinton isn't a liberal... He's a Nixon-ite Republican...
, GfinS... Bill Clinton isn't a liberal... He's a Nixon-ite Republican..."

..and Hillary??...Don't kid yourself, Bobs, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!..for, "For the one millionth time,"....They are owned lock, stock and barrel..even before they are nominated! Obama went a "little astray" from the original intent, and now they are gang banging him from every side....it doesn't matter, though..he sucks, anyway!
either you adhere to the Constitution or change it LEGALLY. He has done neither, as his predecessors. Borders, not rhetoric....freedom of religion, not rhetoric, habeas corpus laws, not rhetoric, a budget, not rhetoric, war powers to defend our country, not rhetoric, anti monopoly laws, not rhetoric, three distinct branches of government, freedom to assemble, not rhetoric, no spying on average American citizens, not rhetoric, due process of law, not rhetoric, not having people's wills and ideologies over run other people's rights, not rhetoric, , and a government where 'WE THE PEOPLE' are the government...not rhetoric!!...which is all you get from 'O-Blabbo', which by the way I was calling him during his primaries, and election..BEFORE there ever was a TEA PARTY!!!....so shove that rap up where I hope you take your head out of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:45 AM

The other one was me...forgot to sign in. You can delete the other one...or leave it up, it bears repeating....

Bobert: "For the one millionth time, GfinS... Bill Clinton isn't a liberal... He's a Nixon-ite Republican...
, GfinS... Bill Clinton isn't a liberal... He's a Nixon-ite Republican..."

..and Hillary??...Don't kid yourself, Bobs, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!..for, "For the one millionth time,"....They are owned lock, stock and barrel..even before they are nominated! Obama went a "little astray" from the original intent, and now they are gang banging him from every side....it doesn't matter, though..he sucks, anyway!
either you adhere to the Constitution or change it LEGALLY. He has done neither, as his predecessors. Borders, not rhetoric....freedom of religion, not rhetoric, habeas corpus laws, not rhetoric, a budget, not rhetoric, war powers to defend our country, not rhetoric, anti monopoly laws, not rhetoric, three distinct branches of government, freedom to assemble, not rhetoric, no spying on average American citizens, not rhetoric, due process of law, not rhetoric, not having people's wills and ideologies over run other people's rights, not rhetoric, , and a government where 'WE THE PEOPLE' are the government...not rhetoric!!...which is all you get from 'O-Blabbo', which by the way I was calling him during his primaries, and election..BEFORE there ever was a TEA PARTY!!!....so shove that rap up where I hope you take your head out of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:50 AM

Hillary is worse than Slick Willie...

BTW, why do you SCREAM so much... Do your think that SCREAMING turns lies into truth???

Hmmmmm??? You look like the guy who SCREAMED at my 90 year mom when she and her friends were run outta one of those "town meetings" in Venice, Fl. during the health care debates two summers ago...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 12:08 PM

"If you want to define " loyal, patriotic, respectful Americans" you had best be willing to accept the same criticism given those on the conservative side when they were thought to be defining those terms. "

That would mean that you stalwart defenders of the American Constitution and the unexpressed thoughts of the founding fathers are debasing yourself to the level of mealy mouth relative morality espousing liberals. I do declare! What has the country come to?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Stringsinger
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:04 PM

No, it's the other way around. Obama is slowly becoming a Republican.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:36 PM

This comment is offensive to those of us who complained about the comments on "Bush" and the use of HIS name here on Mudcat.

And who are "us" - do you pretend to speak for folks other than yourself, or is this an example of the "Royal We" of King Bruce the First?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 01:48 PM

I still think I'd rather lobby Obama than Romney. I do wonder what lurks in the hearts of progressives that persuade some that the worse choice is better in the short run.

There are billions of dollars already invested in persuading you to vote for Romney. I suppose one should have some respect for that kind of dedication. But, remember, even under capitalism not every investment gets a positive return.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 04:40 PM

Greg F,

At least I don't call anyone who is Black and a Democrat "a Dumb Ni--er." as you do.



I am one of those who stated that the so-called liberals here should apply the same rules to themselves that they insist on applying to others.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 04:45 PM

But Liberals don't claim to be more on patriotic.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 05:08 PM

more patriotic

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 05:24 PM

If Greg F said that then I would bet the farm that beardedbruce has taken his words out of context...

I have written similar things but in the context of what I have heard people say or the way some folks I know think of Obama...

Taking statements out of context is ***dishonest***...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 05:41 PM

I don't think that Bruce is being dishonest. I am disturbed that whatever depths he thinks that "liberals" sink to, he feels the need to sink to the lowest level (in his opinion) that any "liberal" on this forum reaches and justify that same behavior on his "side."

Two wrongs don't make a right.

If Greg F jumped off a bridge, would that make it OK for Sawzaw to jump off a bridge?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 07:08 PM

Don't pick on Bruce- he is a disturbed individual who refuses to seek professional help - more to be pitied than censured.

SEE

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 07:22 PM

I want to go on record of saying that if Sawz jumps off a bridge then I ain't gonna follow him...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:34 PM

I think I'll distance myself from this thread...

See you after November, maybe.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:39 PM

"Do your think that SCREAMING turns lies into truth???"

Works for Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:41 PM

You admit that what Bobert says is true?

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 10:43 PM

I don't SCREAM much, Sawz...

Well, at least since I found that CAPS meant SCREAMING...

No so, the real SCREAMERS here who SCREAM all the time...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Democrats distance themselves from Obama
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Jun 12 - 11:42 PM

Some things Bobert says are true some are not.

He uses the old college unix mainframe/terminal way of ********screaming********* with the ***** on each side of the screamed words. The more **** the louder the scream.

I always tell him when I agree. I always state when I agree with Obama. It makes me feel good when I agree with someone.

I think some people believe they have to take everything that certain people say as the truth and everything certain other people say as untrue.

You have to study everything that is said to determine if it is true rather than using the source as the deciding factor.

The dumbest asshole in the world might say something that is the truth on occasion and the smartest person in the world might say something that is untrue.

People have to decide things independantly. Study logical fallacies. Read up on Tribal Politics.

Being able to decide things on our own and not just following the rest of the heard is what makes us human.