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BS: Womenz... Explain me this???

Bobert 30 Aug 12 - 08:36 PM
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Subject: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 08:36 PM

Okay, here's the deal...

The P-Vine has a treadmill with a couple thousand miles on it and she get on it every morning and racks up a couple more doing between 4 and 5 mph...

Ya'll with me so far???

So, she says that we need to pick up three things at the grocery store and, first, it takes her 3 minutes to get out of the car and then another 3 minutes to walk 100 feet to the store and then, once inside the store she goes to about 1 mph???

I donno??? Is this a Venis/Mars thing???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 08:45 PM

Yes, it is. I think she is also a hunter and a gatherer. She hunting for other things she might need, hunting for the best values, and gathering whatever appeals to her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 08:46 PM

So why take a list???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Janie
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 09:19 PM

Bobertz, Bobertz, Bobertz....... *sigh*


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 09:25 PM

Ya'll is so confuzing, Janie... I need some aspirin...

B;~(


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Amos
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 09:55 PM

Aw, Bobez, you have to look for the feeling behind the action or you will never unnnerstan' wiminz.

When she's on the treadmill she can think about everything and anything, no constraints--high school, last year's haircut, the mean thing you said seven years ago, how she feels about Romney's smile--anythig.

When she's in a STORE, man, she's ON DUTY!! She has to analyze, inventory, compare, speculate and weigh the benefits of every single thing, for herself, for you, for all her friends in their various categories of being, and for mankind in general. Then she has to cross-correlate the data as to color, flavor, price, comparison with other items and stores, and who she might want to tell all about it. Then you take ONE step down the aisle and look at the next item.

Do NOT interrupt the process, or she'll have to start te whole store over again. And you'll be in for a storm of upset.   

Just be grateful it's her, and SHE'S doing all that work so you don't have to.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 09:55 PM

I think what you oughta do, Bobertz...and I'm sayin' you should do it outta compassion for the entire female gender, human and otherwise...

Turn gay! Then ya can complain about yer menfriends, and leave the womenz in peace.

Or else maybe become a monk? Yeah, that'd do it. Go join a monastery and avoid the womenz completely. Do it now. The Franciscan brothers are always lookin' for recruits, ya know, and they do a lotta good work.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 10:06 PM

Bobbie Dear,
Is this all a sign of your mourning for your chainsaw?
Let it go, my friend.
And stop asking questions with no answers.
Why do you even want an answer to that question?
Sigh
Go file down a whittle or whatever it is you guys do when you need to contemplate things other than your navels.
And leave P-Vine to her own devices.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 10:07 PM

First of all, fuck off, Chongz... You monkeys us so dumb that you don't know boy monkeys' fro girl monkeys... Ya'll would have sex with yer banana peels if you could figure it out...

Now, as for Amos... What a suck up to the womenz... Hey, any wussy-whipped beat down dude could have said that... I mean, if I was willin' to suck up to stuff I don't understand then, yeah, I could write that stuff... I could.... Well, okay, I still don't get it...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 10:09 PM

Ahhh, I don't think this has chainsaw written on it, Sins... But it might... But I really don't think so... Chainsaw is another issue for me and my shrink to work thru...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 11:17 PM

Boberdz... Have you ever seen one of those "Matrix" movies where Neo's perception of everything goes into super-slow motion when he's about to do combat with Elrond Agent Smith. That's sorta what happens when some women approach a store. The amount of raw shopping data being pumped into their brains is so ginormous that all other mental and bodily functions slow down so their noodles can absorb it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: artbrooks
Date: 30 Aug 12 - 11:47 PM

A woman in a store with a list? Unnatural creature. Women browse aimlessly.

Now, I shop with a list. Herself gives me one, and I buy what is on it, nothing more and nothing less. "You needed 3 cans of tomato sauce for the pasta? Sorry - the list said 'tomato sauce, 8 oz.' - didn't say a thing about needing three for the recipe. Yes, I know we are out of milk, but it isn't on the list. You must have had a reason for leaving it off." Well, ok...I did buy TP and beer - some things are necessities, on the list or not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:46 AM

Careful, Bobertz, careful. You are already a few steps out on a real shaky plank, y'know, and it's not smart to get me mad.

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 07:54 AM

Good advice, except from the furry fellow. Here's some more. Careful with the mouth and the body language on accounta you don't know how slow slow can be. Just the slightest look of impatience could mean minutes of looking at shit you know she never ever bought and ain't got no intention of buying. But, if this does happen, act interested and NEVER say yer gonna go check somethin out and you'll catch up... they know how to hide in a store like a bobcat hides in brush.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 08:36 AM

Womenz have exceptional peripheral vision, especially when it comes to shopping. Unfortunately, it slows them down quite a bit.

Menz' peripheral vision is unfocused in shopping. It only speeds the walk up. Menz "side sight" is more focused in hunting, fishing, sports, truck (and car) buying, and watching "bouncing boobies" and "shapely bummies" pass by. This can be seen in a shopping mall - when menz patiently sit and observe in a food court, for example.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Penny S.
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 08:59 AM

It's not browsing aimlessly. It's foraging. And foraging includes noting what new stuff is there even if you don't need it now, what stuff is marked down and can be bought because it will store for when it's needed, where the store has re-arranged things you are going to need in future, so that when you do need them you can find them (they do that deliberately so you can't go straight there, it's in the how to run a store manual). Translate it from going out in the wild looking for food. Some of it won't be ready to harvest, some will, new trees will have popped up since you were last there, you need to remember waht your granny told you about what's good for what ails you and what's going to kill you. It takes time.

When our new shopping centre opened down the road from me, I spent two days going round it, in and out of the shops, and I didn't buy anything. But when I wanted something, I knew where to go, where to park the car for the shortest trip and so on. And I'm not the only one. One child at school commented that her mother had gone to Bluewater and bought nothing, just like me. I explained, briefly, what was going on.

Shopping isn't just buying, it's learning the shops. (One of my usuals has been closed for re-organising, and re-opened on Monday, but I'm not going in till tomorrow, because I have a money off voucher that doesn't apply until then - and it's driving me batty, not knowing what they have done and what they have new.)

Penny


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 09:11 AM

Amos and Penny: very good observations on the complex art of shopping.

You didn't mention another important mental task that a grocery shopper is performing - dreaming up menus based on what's for sale and on sale.

And in the meantime, she's fighting off the mental invasion of loud, ugly music. (A similar thing goes on in the fabric store.)

Yes, ignoring background music is a mental task, another demand on the brain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 09:29 AM

I still don't understand it... Artbrooks and I are on the same page... Just get the job done and get the heck out of the store...

What I have figured out is that the P-Vine likes to be in the store so much that if her list has ketchup on it and also salad dressing on it that she will pick up the ketchup and walk past the salad dressing because it isn't *next* on the list which means criss-crossing the store several times so...

...I have taken to be her "runner"... That works fine... If something at the end of the list is way back down at the other end of the store where we started I'll volunteer to go back and get it... That gets me away from the madness and gives me a purpose... Plus, it allows me to crank up my walking speed which, in turn, makes me less tired... That zero to 1 MPH is tiresome...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Amos
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 09:47 AM

You're missing the Big Pictchoor, my man. For you and me it's a task--like Art B says--get what's on the list and get out.

But they need to download the whole database while they're there AND use it to generate menus or lists of Xmas presents or maps to future birthdays.

The list is just the nearest excuse to get in range.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Penny S.
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 10:14 AM

Oh, the drivel music, the on and on not going anywhere, not telling a story, with inaudible words in a voice that isn't a good voice music. That gets me out fast.

I do hope, Bobert, that you don't carry on the runner thing once the P-Vine is in the queue. It drives me mad when I have carefully chosen a till with a reasonable number of transactions and items to line up behind with my not very much, and I find that the person in front has a runner who keeps adding more and more to what seemed like a small quantity of goods. Sometimes it looks as if the person with the trolley joined th equeue almost as soon as arriving at the store.

Penny


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 10:20 AM

Yeah, I've already resigned myself to the fact that some womenz, not all mind you, get to the check-out counter and either don't realize that they are expected to pay for the stuff or realize they need more stuff... Or both??? We've talked about that in the past and while I'm not okay with it I am resigned to it... So when I see it happening I just leave the P-Vine to hold our place in line and wander off until the offending womanz is out the door...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 10:34 AM

The women are making perfect sense here, Bobert. They're describing what a man does if he's into coin collecting, say, and he goes into a really good coin shop. He forages around there till he's seen everything. Maybe he buys something, maybe not. It's a matter of enjoyment, observation, gathering info, and savouring all the possibilities, and it's time well spent. ;-)

Chongo has got out your picture again and he's sitting here, eating watermelon, and cheerfully spitting seeds at it...Oooo! Right in the eye that time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:00 AM

You are better off then me Bobster, mine goes ... I am going into walmart to pick up a couple things, be back out in a minute. In the meantime ... several birthdays come and go and I am growing a santa beard on my face .. The car looks like an ancient fossil and that small tree has just turned into a towering oak


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:17 AM

What you gotta do, Dan, is get into coin collecting or model airplanes, see? Then drive to the hobby or coin shop, say "I'll just be a couple of minutes" and leave your wife to wait in the car! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Crowhugger
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:21 AM

I am quite up front with my sweetheart about my slow, zig-zagging "gatherer" behaviour in grocery stores: I hate grocery store shopping, he knows it, and if he makes me go with him I will make him suffer in every way possible.

On the other hand I can walk through a produce shop or the butcher or the whole foods store quite happily, browse everything quickly and leave with only what we needed. I simply cannot abide the visual and auditory assault commonly known as a grocery store.

Interesting comment about annoying music in the fabric store: Not around the Toronto area, at least not any place I've been. It's always inocuous and easy to ignore. Which is saying something because I am very sensitive to sound and distractable by music. If I can't focus on the task at hand I will leave rather than fight the noise; enter my sewing room as exhibit 1 that it's never happened at a fabric store.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:25 AM

""You didn't mention another important mental task that a grocery shopper is performing - dreaming up menus based on what's for sale and on sale.""

It may seem as a "weird or what" segment to some womenz - but many menz do the grocery shopping and participate in the same menu-strategizing while doing it (and I wager for many it is in far less time). Food preparation is no longer a womanzzz-exclusive world :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:25 AM

Hmmm. You really hate grocery stores that much? Why? Are they too big and visually distracting to suit your taste? I feel that way about places like WalMart or Costco or Home Depot. They're kind of Orwellian, and WalMart is the most nauseating of the lot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Monique
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:27 AM

The difference is you won't need the coins for the next meals or laundry loads, do you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Monique
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:27 AM

*oops...will you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:29 AM

And why do womenz stand gossiping blocking the aisle? Or right outside the door? And push the trolley into the back of your legs in the check out queue?

Beats me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: olddude
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:33 AM

well I went into the grocery store. I was carrying a big bag of dog food. While standing there the lady at the checkout was talking to the lady about their lives, husbands, grand kids in the meantime I am standing there waiting holding a big heavy bag. I mean a store employee should visit off the job. No one wants to wait a year while she visits with a neighbor with customers in line


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:50 AM

Well, you make a good point there, Monique. ;-) I have always thought that women were basically more practical, on average, than men are. They keep their minds on the essential matters.

Men, on the other hand, are happy as can be to spend inordinate amounts of time on hobbies that aren't the least bit practical. Why? Well, it's fun!

(Let Chongo loose in a gun shop, for instance, and he'll be there for hours.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Megan L
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:02 PM

You have all forgoten the main point of a woman going to the shop (store) in the shopping centre(mall) :)

It is a form of meditation. For the duration you can ignore your troubles (Spouce) unless the anoyance insists on pushing the trolley. You are free from the shakles of having to solve all his problems (Where is my Shirt/car keys/wallet/any other item he is to lazy to actually look for.) And you can dream of those long ago days when you could eat whatever YOU wanted not restricted by graons of "Oh not that again/I don't like/ thats not how my mother made it"

Thats all folks from Meg who is wind blown , rained upon and generally having a grumpy auld wifie day he he .


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:02 PM

... she says that **we** need to pick up three things at the grocery store ...

Does she not drive? Or was this when both of you were already out? Have you ASKED her in an offhand way why she dawdles in stores?

I never generalize about what 'womenz' do, because they ain't all the same. I have no problem when shopping with Rita, even though *I* probably do about 78.4593% of the grocery shopping myself. Sometime SHE is out and stops at one of 2-3 stores. She is pretty particular about produce, and often prefers to select it personally.... though I have done quite well in general.

My ONLY problem is being given a list that is not specific enough, as she often wants ONLY certain brands or types of product and store X may not carry certain things. (We actually have about 4 major and 2-3 minor choices for grocery shopping... with 2-4 branches of each major, depending on the route.)

Gee... I can't think of anything cute and clever to add to the joshing you are getting.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Monique
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:08 PM

Women would also be as happy as can be to spend inordinate amounts of time on hobbies that aren't the least practical because it's fun. Maybe spending some time in a store can be a way to evade the amount of very practical "hobbies" that await for them at home. And now, guys, I'm off to the store!


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:10 PM

You are such a disappointment, BillD! ;-) I was hoping you would wax mystical for a change.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:17 PM

Monique, don't forget to get the champignons!


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:21 PM

Maybe I will sometime, Hawk... maybe I'll come up with some alternate persona that will allow me to give vent to my inner self and toss rhetorical conundrums about like rotten bananas..ummm...pithy Rasputinisms.

Maybe I'll channel Aristotle with an Edgar Cayce twist..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 12:22 PM

That would definitely be fun.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 02:56 PM

Sorry, Bill, but you'll have to do it on Rita's computer 'cause LH is grandfathered in and Mudcat ain't acceptin' no new split personalities... I tried and got a big, "No!"...

Maybe you could find a philosophers group and join in as Aristotle with an Edgar Cayce twist???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: GUEST,Edgar Cayce's ghost
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 03:48 PM

Really? Then no Aristotelian metaphysics?


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Crowhugger
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:28 PM

LH we're mostly on the same page about what is an unpleasant store. I have never shopped at the places you named except Home Depot. I put up with a certain amount of hiss and din there because it is full of neat stuff, but never go at busy times or when I'm even the least bit fatigued.


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:42 PM

I boycott Home Depot because their CEO is not only a rabid right winger but also a very rude little man... Talks about Obama like some Tea Party racist...

Costco, on the other hand, is a decent company... We save a lot of money by buying quantity but their meat is just as expensive as other grocery stores so we don't buy much there...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:42 PM

"The women are making perfect sense here, Bobert."

No, they are explaining why they don't. Ya wanna "shop"?, shop. I'll drop you off and you call me when you are done "shopping". I got shit ta do eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:49 PM

You got balls, gn-ze... Me??? I'm a wuss... She says jump and I don't ask why... I ask how high... I know... I am pathetic... I am...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:58 PM

I dunno, Bobert... I keep discovering new companies that are owned or run by idiots I don't approve of. Staples office supply was a Romney project, and its owner is STILL a big Romney supporter. Staples competitor here just went out of business. My 'usual' grocery store was bought a few years ago by the Dutch company Royal Ahold. Wanta guess what their nickname is...even among employees?


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: JennieG
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 06:18 PM

I prefer to go shopping on my own but Himself likes to come along......gets him out of the house, and he can flirt with Tina in the cafe where we always start the shopping trip with a coffee.....however, since I broke my arm and damaged my shoulder it's good to have someone to help with the fetching and carrying.

So I appreciate the help. And he knows not to complain too loudly about helping.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 07:02 PM

Himself is a good dog...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 08:56 PM

"a good dog"??? Oh my. Now, *I* know you meant that in a good way but sweet JAYSUS man... explain that to a woman who has that look on her face... you KNOW that look. UNLESS you are lookin at the ground when she looks at you like that.

Anyway, it's all fun, innit? Conjecture about the opposite... or is that "complaint"? Either way, as long as it's just fun shittin about it. Makes the world go round, eh?

Yeah... sometimes it goes round reeeealll slow, eh Bobert? >;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Womenz... Explain me this???
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 09:09 PM

What??? This another one of them womenz quizzes, gn-ze... You could at least make it multiple choice...

B~


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