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Subject: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:24 AM PeterT's thought for today, prompted me to post this which I've been thinking about. The Northeast Women's Musical Retreat had an endowment, money left to them in the will of a wealthy member. That money was to be used to purchase land for a permanent site for the festival. I don't know if they ever did or not becasue I lost contact. The other night I was thinking about how much I would like to live in a community of like minded people, with some differences, but some commonalities which would make it possible for us all to live on a big piece of land, yet separately. I've a few friends who've talked about this over the years, bt we've never done anything about it. I was also thinking about getting older and who I really would want to be around to stave off the loneliness which can come with such phases. I decided it would be great if there could be a communal piece of land somewhere where older Mudcatters, or those who are retired or want a retreat, could go to, build their own home and live, with perhaps a large "messhall" for meals and concerts. I know it is a pipedream right now, and I know we do really well as a cyber community. I also know there would be those who would never want to leave where they are or who could not, but I am wondering if it might be possible for those who can and would want to. Isn't this the stuff that dreams are made of? If we build it would *they* come?*G* What do you think? |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Fortunato Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:27 AM I'd rather be sent to live in a community of old folkies than in a old folks community. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:33 AM Hear-hear!*BG* |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Gint Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:35 AM Ah what dreams are made of. Sounds great, just one thought though I have been recorded snoring in excess of 55db so I would have to be a distance from people who want to sleep. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Fortunato Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:37 AM That's what the canes are for, to whack the nose kazooers. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Allan C. Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:45 AM Rats! I KNOW we had a thread about this sort of thing last year but I just can't find it. I truly like the idea. I can't imagine that any one location would suit everyone because of the problem of logistics for visiting relatives. So we might need quite a few sites in different parts of some of the larger countries, such as the USA. But, in this virtual world, (where the idea currently resides,) money is no object! |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: MMario Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:07 PM As long as it isn't JUST older, retired, or whatever...I cannot imagine myself ever getting to the point I don't want children around SOME of the time. Perhaps not in my immediate household, but at least in the neighborhood. MMario |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: DougR Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:25 PM MMario: You are so right! I worked for a few months at the Sundome (a performing facility) in Sun City, Arizona. No kids, no young people, now weeds in yards. I wouldn't want to live in a place like that either. Kat, somewhere in Montana would be nice for the summer and you can't beat Arizona in the winter. DougR |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Rick Fielding Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:40 PM Holy Cow, Kat. I dunno. I'm picturing this longgggg row of motel-like domiciles with assorted mudcatters in residence. Kinda like the old TV show that had contestants trying to guess what was behind doors number 1, 2, 3, and 4. Scene from the play "Golden Gaffers With Guitars" by R.Fielding. From the original first draft by K. Laughing. Rick:(to Peter T.) "Well, old timer, whaddya wanna do today? Peter T. "Well, I've still got to do some work on that double thumb roll, Rick. You did promise I'd be able to play "Eve of Destruction" before I died - and I'm almost 87, so time's running out. We could go for a visit down the street though. Hold on while I get my walker. Rick: "If you'd taken my advice and bought that Furannablaster -28, with the 25 1/2" scale and 2 3/4" width fingerboard, you'd have learned it 31 years ago, but don't worry, there's still time, and I don't wanna put pressure on you. How 'bout we drop in on Catspaw 91? "They hobble down the street". Rick: "Hey Paw, are you up yet? Put your teeth in, we're here for a visit." Catspaw:(from behind door) "Fawkin' eh! Damn possum asses! (cough, hack) Get offa my property, or I'll sic my imaginary brothers on ya! Now git!" Peter T: "Poor ol fart, hasn't had a good night's sleep since '98. Hey, let's visit old Mick." "they knock on Mick's door" Rapidly Shrinking Mick: "Faith and Begorrah! Is that you Ulstermen at my door? I'll mop the floor with yez, I'll hit yez on the head with my box of Wolftones records! Jayzus, you've got my blood boilin' now...Arghhhhh!" Rick: "Oops, now we've done it! He's had another coronary. I think that's number 23. We better ring old Father Offer to give him the last rites again. I think he's still sitting in that abandoned 56 Chevy, down by the lighthouse looking for Russian subs." Peter T:, "This is getting depressing. I was at AnnaP's gathering last week, and all she served was mush. After dinner, everyone fell asleep while Sandy was singing "Tam Lin", and he'd only gotten to the 82nd verse! Even 'ol Max was startin' all his blues songs off with "Woke up this Afternoon..." Rick: "I know, let's go see 'ol Aunt Katlaughing. She's always got a positive outlook on life!" They knock on a gaily painted door festooned with astrological signs and uplifting "thoughts for the day" Katlaughing: "C'mon in boys, there's a big pot of Camomile, Exlax, and Viagara tea waitin' for you! Find a place to set a spell. You'll have to move a few of the cats first. Saffo just had kittens, so that makes 265 of the little cuties now!" Whoops..play ends abruptly as Duckboots yells: "Richard put that garbage out!!"
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Barbara Shaw Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:46 PM I found the previous thread: |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Roger the skiffler Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:47 PM ..nose-kazoos! Now I know what I've been doing wrong...Put those canes down! That pesky young Richard needs to get a new amplifier, can't hear him play these days...guitars were much louder in my day.... |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: annamill Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:55 PM Rick, that was fantastic! LMAO!! Allen, I remember that one too. It was about a dream venue. Like a big coffee house or something like that. Montana and Arizona wouldn't do for me as beautiful as they are. I need, not want mind you, need to be near the Ocean. Glenn too. I know! We can have several all over the country and we can pick a residence, and go visit. I'm ready to retire right now! Love, annap |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 01:11 PM Sir Fielding, you have outdone yourself! I haven't laughed aloud, so hard, in ages! My animals are looking at me as though I've gone round the bend! BRAVO!!! Tell Duckboots to let you come back for another installment of How The Phoaks Turn! Please be assured, I am NOT interested in a sterile community of all of you fogies and no kids or other phoaks!**BG** Actually I was trying to avoid using that commie word, "commune" but what the hell. I know there si a more up to date word but can't think of it. As far as I am concerned, I would like to live in something like this RIGHT NOW, with all the kids, critters, spouses, foibles, instruments, etc. Cooperative! Nah, that's not it either, but I like it. An', ya can fergitaboutda little row of motorcourt rooms, Rick! You think we'd get any sleep with those kazoos going all night if we were on top of each other that way??? (To the nose kazooers: I, too, used to do that. Get your oxygen levels checked. It's really easy; they just clamp a little lead line on your finger & the pulse oxymeter tells them what percentage of O2 you are taking in. Not trying to scare you, but it is worth the checking. Since I've been tethered to the O2 line, I've not snored a bit. Sometimes snoring is a sign of something that needs to be treated. Then, again, it oculd just be all those cat hairs clogging up your passages:-) Okay then, houseabout we call it a neighbourhood/community? Have open song circles, workshops (self-sustaining idea, there). We could be like the MacDowell Colony of phoak or some such. A working place 'cause actually I don't see ay of us really slowing down on this stuff until they spread our ashes over the sea. BTW, where is Father Joebro? Anybody heard from him or seen him in the threads? Missing you, Joe! MT in the summer and AZ in the winter? Oh that's so sunbirdish!**BG** Might have to be a bit more central, although I could see several of these springing up; then we could have travelling caravans to each one; visiting one another, etc. C'mon, Rick, MORE! MORE! luvyaKat |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Peter T. Date: 26 Oct 99 - 03:27 PM Totally hilarious, but, Oahhh, Rick (it is Rick, isn't it), you forget that the revolution came in 2 ought ought-6, when Britney Spears became President, and all the folkies finally went into guerilla warfare, and brought down the whole capitalist globalized system after the market crashed on speculation that Mudcat Enterprises was going to nationalize Canada to recycle the money it had made after absorbing Microsoft. We set up the alternative government when you hit 75, and after Joe Offer retired, you were President, and ordered everyone on earth to pretend that I had learned the double thumb roll, which was easier than me learning it. How could you forget (now where were my teeth?) "You donnn't believve we'rree on the Eve of Destrucccshhhhhunnnn." yours, Peter T.
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 03:41 PM WAR, HUH! Good gawd ya'll what is it good for!? LOL, Peter! Barbara, sorry, I forgot to say thanks for the link. I'll take a look at it this evening. Katwhohasopposablethumbsbutdoesn'tknowadarnthingaboutadoublethumbroll! |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Allan C. Date: 26 Oct 99 - 03:53 PM Kat, first you take a wad of biscuit dough... |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Gint Date: 26 Oct 99 - 04:15 PM I have been on O2 for some time. I can see it now, a wooded copse, a waterfall, rolling hills, and CPAP machines wheezing through the night, (hopefully in the same key) |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 04:58 PM Oh, Gint, you, too? I have a concentrator at home, which doesn't wheeze as much as hum like a piece of industrial machinery. The cats love to snugle upnext to it whenthe weather is cold because it puts out so much heat. In the summertime, we put it outside in the garage, otherwise we'd roast!:-) |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: lamarca Date: 26 Oct 99 - 05:23 PM Let's think about this, folks - right now we get to visit with each other, gossip on-line, get together occasionally for a weekend, laugh at each other's quirks and enjoy each other's company when we want to! Every time someone suggests setting up an "Old Folkie's Home" or commune or whatever, I start imagining what it would be like to live next door to some of my "Festival Friends" for the rest of my life... Having lived in goldfish-bowl graduate housing, where everyone knew what everyone else was doing, when you were fighting with your spouse, what you were cooking for dinner, who's car was in your driveway, etc, I can't think of anything that has more potential for ruining friendships than having said friends all living together in a closed community. We have a group of friends who all live in the same neighborhood in our area, but we don't live next door to one another, and there are plenty of other neighbors who have different interests around. I think that that kind of diversity is necessary to make for a thriving community; the chance for solitude and privacy is just as important as the feeling of community to me. Much as I love my folkie friends, I wouldn't want to live with most of them! (And I'm sure they probably feel the same about grumpy Italian-Polish Americans...) |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: catspaw49 Date: 26 Oct 99 - 05:23 PM Just FANDAMTASTIC RICK......LMAOWROTF.....Funniest thing up in a coon's age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Mudjack Date: 26 Oct 99 - 05:28 PM I like it but my plans is to put my wife and I in a retirement Motor home for two years and travel throughout the US and Canada. On the GO is my idea of retiring. Of course good health and finances willing.The game plan is to take in every music festival I can squeeze in doing volunteer chores to pay our way. Oh might this include rallying and spending time meeting and sharing time with all my mudcat pals??? YOU BET, I'm not sure we want to commit to being fulltime RVers for the rest of our lives but 2 years might stretch into 5 years. Mrs. MJ is not addicted to the music world as I am but enjoys listening to live music as I do. When the touring comes to a slow down and settling down to a place to call retirement village for Mudcatter's, My dream side says YES, but reality barks out at me saying, "Do you really want to be that far away from your kids and family?" Mudjack |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Corwyn Date: 26 Oct 99 - 05:34 PM There is a current plan that I know of to buy land for a permanent Scottish Festival site somewhere near Kansas City (or there abouts), to eventually include a old style town. Beacuse of funding problems, it has a current 5 year inception date, but there does seem to be interest in the project. That be a solution. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 26 Oct 99 - 06:51 PM I'm for Lamarca's idea. I don't want to live in some communal array. It might be cool to have a number of 'Cstters move to the same general area. Marge and I have been looking into the Northern Neck of Virginia for the past six months. It's that piece of land that lies between the Potomac and Rappahanock Rivers. It isn't on the way to anywhere, it's out of the way. Land is cheap and available. Economy is depressed because there no industry wants to move into the isolated area. Only about 40,000 people live there (I know that's crowded by Montana standards). But it is surrounded on three sides by water so there the opportunity for water sports (no 'Spaw, not those water sports!) is plentiful. Yet Richmond is only 90 minutes away and DC is only two hours away (too far for the commuters). I suspect we have such diverse interests that there would have to be a few enclaves, but this might make a good one for the East Coasters. It ain't quite the ocean Anna, but the Bay is awfully big. Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Gint Date: 26 Oct 99 - 08:22 PM Kat After two or three nights of absolute terror the cat returned to it customery sleeping place, taking 3/4's of the bed, It now can live with "the damnd machine". When I recieved the machine the nurse said "this mask is not going to do anything for your sex life" My only reply was "well strange snoring @ 55db hasn't don me any favours" Try as I might I'll be damnd if I can get a tune out of this thing. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Tony Burns Date: 26 Oct 99 - 08:25 PM Great idea! I vote for a nice piece of land in the Canadian Rockies. I'd like enough land for 3 small buildings (quarters for my wife and I) a building for music and crafts and one more as a bunk house for visitors. As far as attending festivals is concerned I think we should get a Mudcat bus and travel as a group. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: MMario Date: 26 Oct 99 - 08:26 PM MudJack - my parents are on the road 9 months of the year (approx) at the ages of ...uhmmmmm.....79 and 82. They are currently on their way across the continent to Washington from Massachusetts -- will wander down the left coast and "do" Christmas as part of a "fantasy caravan" in Mexico. (that two weeks bracketing Christmas will be the only time they are part of a caravan)- we expect to see them home sometime in Feb or March, and they will probably take off againfor SOMEWHERE a couple weeks after arriving home. last year they got back from their "summer trip" late July, were gone again to Norway and the fjords for september, were home for two weeks and took off on their current trip.
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Gint Date: 26 Oct 99 - 08:56 PM The rockies are a good idea, but how aboout somewhere where 'catters can rest their old bones in the sun. But only three buildings , one for you and your kin, one for music (you can have it in your house, It's not a crime) and one for guests. Make the third one verrrrrrrrry large as it'll proberably be full of old creaking 'catters trying to twang the odd chord and twiddle with the od tune, incessantly invading your two buildings asking for cups of sugar, borrowing your L,P's, jumping on your couch, sorry, sorry... Can we visit... please, please please, please please, please please, please please, please please, please We can baby sit for you...... pleeeeaaase
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 09:16 PM Gint, only 3/4ths of the bed!**BG** I use a canula, not a mask, but you sure made me chuckle! When I first got mine, I went through several 50 ft tubes. One cat in particular just couldn't help himself. He'd go nuts in the night and attack it, either chewing it in half and/or making little holes of bitemarks all up and down it. I'd wake up without air, Rog would get up, in the buff, pick up the line, walking along its length, and hold it close to his face to feel where the little holes were by the escaping air! It was hilarious the first couple of times. Now, it no longer interests him, except when he lays on my chest, front paws sor tof embacing my neck, face right in mine. Then I ask him if he wants a "whiff". He closes his eyes, I take the canula out, hold it up to his nose and I swear he breathes deeply! Weird cat...he's the one on my head in my picture here. Okay, here's what I am thinking: a core group who knows they could stand to live on a LARGE piece of land, with SEPARATE housing AWAY from each other, fences, privacy the whole bit, could be steady residents. Anyone who doesn't want to be that all-time cozy can come for retreat, to regroup , or whatever. I am serious about this, phoaks. As I said I have about 3 other friends with whom I've discussed this at length over the years. None of us really wants to be alone when we are old and we don't want to wind up in some "home" where we know noone, so we create our own community with the thought in mind that it will serve us even in later years. I think it could happen on an individual basis of those who are intertested. Sure figuring out where will be tough, but I can already think of at least handful or two of Mudcatters I could stand being that close to with respect for each other's privacy, etc. And, this doesn't have to be far way from any regular community which could be our guests and vice versa. "Some people say I'm dreamer, but I know I'm not the only one." luvyaKat Canadian Rockies sounds really good to me, Tony, but it might be a little cold in the winter; also, not excatly centrally located or a lot of Mudcatters. I love the idea of a Magical Mystery Tour Bus.*g* |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 26 Oct 99 - 09:54 PM Gint and Katlaughing, I got me one of those dandy Nasal CPAP devices. Always nice to know I'm not the only one. I had gotten so sleep deprived, I was pulled over for a possible DWI because I was swerving in the road. Doc says if I lose 50 pounds I might free myself of the device. He might have said, if you swim the Pacific you can get off of it. Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Pete Peterson Date: 26 Oct 99 - 10:05 PM I have been thinking about this a while myself and not coming up with any good answers. I would love to live very near many of my Mudcat friends and many of my old-time friends who I haven't yet been able to convince to check this as well as rec.music.country.oldtime. The problem that I see is that most of us are in the age 40-60 age bracket. (*Look around you at Old Songs, at Clifftop, or Pinewoods and see if this estimate is accurate) Demographically, this is not a good mix-- we would all be trying to care for each other as we're all falling apart. So the question I ask is how can we attract younger people to this music in sufficient numbers that they would be willing to live fulltime amoung the Catters & care for us when we soon reach senility, and lose the ability? you could HIRE such a thing, but most of us aren't rich, maybe if we all pooled our resources . . . I agree with the January thread. I would like to make this a reality some time in the next ten years, and would devote at least some of my life, my6 fortune and my sacred honor (stop laughing) to making it happen. Hope someone has better ideas than I have yet come up with. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:17 PM I think by being very active in an adjacent community/ies, we might be able to do so, Pete. I know it sounds a little ambitious. It would have to be close to a fairly good sized metropolitan area to draw from. We could have in-school presentations and/or visits from schoolchildren and their parents. If we got into it, we could have living history demonstrations; those always birng in the schools bigtime, esp. if we covered aspects of music throughout history, i.e. Civil War, railroad bldg; days of Robin Hood; cowboys, etc. Sturbridge Village, a llving history working village with farms, cooper, glassblowers, etc. has gotten kind of touristy and I wouldn't want to have anything like that, at all, those people work hard everyday to present a fantastic and authentic experience of 1830's village life, but anyway, they attract tons of schools and others who pay pretty fair amts to tour for the day, ride on the wagons, watch teh sawmill, groom the oxen, etc. Myabe, musically, we could do something like that, on a smaller scale? I dunno, that doesn't sound like much of a retreat, though, does it? I don't really feel like catering to a bunch of outsiders, personally. Hey, BigRib, would you or Gint refresh my memory? What does CPAP stand for; cardiopulmonary what? I am not on this for my lungs and my machine is called a concentrator, plus I carry a small oxygen bottle attached to my face(:-) when I go out. Listen, take heart, literally. I had to lose weight because my leaky heart was starting to enlarge. I have lost 45 lbs in 7 months and my echocardiogram was much better this year than last. I am doing my own vegetarian modifications of Dr. Atkins low carb/hi protein diet and so far it has worked well for me. And, sometimes when I go out, depending on stress, I am able to go without the O2 for short periods of time. When I first went on it, I had to sleep in an old comfy rocking chair because I had no breath lying down. Just losing the first 8-10 lbs cured me of that and I've been sleeping much better with each pound I lose, so it is worth the effort. Sure would be nice to figure this out. kat |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: WyoWoman Date: 26 Oct 99 - 11:34 PM THE SCENE: MUDCAT MANOR/Interior/DAY THE DAY ROOM Light is streaming in one of the large, picture windows showing the handsome countryside that surrounds the retirement villa. The mountains rise behind the main lodge, and the ocean pounds wildly against the perfect beach below. In the DAY ROOM, WYOWOMAN sits on a sofa, her brow furrowed in concentration as she works once more on getting that *#&%ed B chord on the guitar she cradles in her lap. OVER, we hear the sound of slippers shuffling across linoleum. It is CATSPAW, slowly making his way to stand beside WYOWOMAN. CATSPAW Bet you can't tell how old I am, WyoWoman. WYO Yes, I can. CATSPAW Bet you can't, you miserable b... WYO (interrupting) Of course I can. Pull down your britches. CATSPAW Huh? WYO You heard me. Drop 'em. CATSPAW Uh, well, ok. WYO fumbles around for a minute or two with Mr. Spaw's delicates. Carefully, methodically. Then: WYO OK, put yer knickers back on. Go on. You heard me. Buckle up. You're 81 years old. No doubt about it. 81. CATSPAW WHAAAA??? WYO Yup. 81 years old. CATSPAW Tha...that's simply amazing WyoWoman. You could tell that just from, um, feeling... WYO Nah, ya old coot. You told me yesterday... >;-o |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Escamillo Date: 27 Oct 99 - 12:13 AM Great thread! I'd never laughed so loudly as when reading Rick's future story. Please make reservations for me and my wife. Your will surely notice which is my door because you'll always see a very ancient bull lying down in front of it, and I'll be glad to wear my torero suit, fight the poor thing with my walker, and sing (coff) my aria for you all, when you come for a visit. And we'll drink manzanilla. :) Yours, Andrés Magré |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Rick Fielding Date: 27 Oct 99 - 12:19 AM Wyo, you 'lil devil! Old Rick |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: WyoWoman Date: 27 Oct 99 - 12:27 AM I know. I try to be good. I really do...I just can't help myself....
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Lonesome EJ Date: 27 Oct 99 - 01:23 AM Well count me in if you guys are looking at something tropical and seaside (other than Clearwater/St Pete- too much like the Elephant Graveyard- sorry Banjer). I'm thinking the South Pacific or maybe Belize, cheap land and housing, coconuts, grouper. We could import the necessities like Depends, Guinness and frozen White Castle Hamburgers. How about running a tropical BnB for Folkies and normal people? |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: alison Date: 27 Oct 99 - 02:23 AM If I remember rightly.. didn't someone have a boat in one of the earlier threads and they were going to take us cruising picking us up a different destinations on the way???? i'm still in favour of that one....... and can we make Mick the chef??? slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Little Neophyte Date: 27 Oct 99 - 06:45 AM What will my job be? Puree your food? Opening your canned liquid nutrient supplements? Make sure everyone is having regular bowel movements? Little Neo |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Roger the skiffler Date: 27 Oct 99 - 08:22 AM Locate it in the Cook Islands (lovely people, lovely climate, hardly any hurricanes, lovely food, great traditional music and a blues club) and I'm your man. I can picture the over-eighties nudist beach volleyball now! |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Tony Burns Date: 27 Oct 99 - 09:13 AM Gint, I guess my posting was a little misleading. I was thinking of a lot of land in the Canadian Rockies. Enough for all the Mudders that want to participate. I just want enough for my 3 little buildings. Kat, once we all live there it will be as central as it is possible to be. Tonywhowillbuyalotteryticketforthisproject |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: WyoWoman Date: 27 Oct 99 - 10:51 AM If we decide on ocean-going, I'll await you all dockside. I tend to spit up on watercraft. ww |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Pete Peterson Date: 27 Oct 99 - 11:06 AM Kat (and everybody) thanks for taking me seriously. This is something that I think would be worth working on. Selfishly for me-- and bricks and mortar to leave behind for others once we are done using them! How can we make this happen? and how to get a large enough endowment that there's enough cash to keep the supplies coming in? Do we hire doctors or grow our own? (Self-medication can be the most intelligent thing to do-- up to a point) |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: WyoWoman Date: 27 Oct 99 - 11:11 AM I think we put our brilliant, wizened heads together, write some of this silliness up in a telescript, sell it to TV producers, become wildly successful, go into syndication, have the money go into a trust for precisely this purpose and become comfortable and even more sassy in our declining years. That's what *I* think. WW |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: katlaughing Date: 27 Oct 99 - 11:48 AM WW, I seriously think that is a fantastic and NOT unrealistic idea! We certainly have enough creative writers and at least two seasoned actors among us. As for doctors, all we have to do is get Mark to leave Hawaii and I think it's BJ? in England and we'll have our own Mudcatter docs. Plus, I know we have several massage therapists and others into the alternative practices I favour. Pete, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Thanks for taking me seriously, too. 'Spaw....uh, have you checked yer drawers lately?**BG** Tony, that is what I was thinking. LOTS, AND LOTS OF LAND! And, you're right, with us there, it is central! To all you tropics lovers and ocean goers (keep the good earth under MY feet!) my son-in-law, theorectically could get land for free on his native island, Antigua! But, I don't think it would be a very large plot...so maybe it could be an offshoot for those who need the sun and surf once in awhile. For some intersting perusing of potential sites in the UK (I know we haven't talked about that, yet) please click here AND for some REALLY GOOD PRICES ON LARGE PIECES OF LAND in Den's neck of the woods, Nova Scotia, click here. My place is going to be cozy with fireplaces, dried herbs and flowers hanging from the rafters, lots of windows and a deep porch with rocking chairs for everyone, as well as a big kitchen and old farm table to gather round. There will always be a faint secnt of catnip drying on the air, as well as Tibetan incense and a few cats and at least one dog in residence. And, Rick is right, there will be mystical, metaphysical symbols all over, just as there are now in my house, from windchimes to stained glass pieces, to wall hangings. Out back, Rog will have a little building full of all of his electronic gear, including the infernal television. There will probably be a satellite dish and antenna or two. Hell, if he gets it together we might even have to pay some of you to assemble parts and ship them out! Course, he'll have comfy recliners and a beer fridge or even a tap out there for everyone who can't miss their baseball games or BBC dramas. When we're feeling frisky, we'll wander over to Escamillo's and listen to him serenade and drink manzanilla with him. And, we'll feed the old bull which has become kind and gentle as Escamillo. Heck, we'll even put garlands of flowers on his horns on Mayday. One night of the week, everyone who wants to can come join me in a circle of meditation, healing, and giving thanks. And, on the full moons, we'll meet out back in the grove circle, with a campfire, songs, and meditations/prayers. Once a month, I'll host an automatic writing circle. The person who wants a question answered will sit in the north, while the rest of us sit in a circle with them. They will write out their question and send it to us by thought only. While we sit there with quiet music on, candles and incense burning, we will write down the impressions we get, or draw the pictures we see in our mind's eye which might give the person an answer to what is troubling them. (This works, I used to do this back East.) Some of us may find ourselves writing a poem which sounds cryptic, but when read to the questioner, makes perfect sense. Others may sketch out a beautiful scene, while others of us will write first impressions down in a kind of stacatto frenzy. All will come together in a Cosmic message of what the questioner is looking for help on. We will always close the circle by singing Stand on the Shore, reworded slightly from Libana's version, which they titled "Sisters Now Our Meeting Is Over":
Friends now our meeting is over Blessed Be, kat |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Mudjack Date: 27 Oct 99 - 01:25 PM Thanks MMario, good thoughts, I will likey be ready to move on after visiting the son or daughter. More like they'll be ready for us to move on. Mudjack |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Peter T. Date: 27 Oct 99 - 06:20 PM WW, I note that catspaw has been reeeeeaaaaaalllllyyyy quiet since your little playlet. I think you finally got him. Congratulations. (I laughed till it hurt too bad to continue). yours, Peter T> |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Little Neophyte Date: 27 Oct 99 - 07:13 PM Nope Peter T. Catspaw is just being responsible. There are little ones around here you know; like me. I think he is trying to discourage X rated postings. Right Catspaw? Little Neo |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: Lonesome EJ Date: 27 Oct 99 - 07:28 PM Catspaw!!? Discourage X-Rated postings!? Have him sing his dirty version of Oklahoma for you sometime, LilNeo.. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Oct 99 - 07:42 PM I had a friend who started playing a jig at a blue-grass session... Folkies are not all as tolerant of diversity as catters seem to be. Most times you get a bunch of musicians together for any length of time they'll find something to quarrel about. It's not wholly a bad thing either - groups split, and you end up with more groups. People get on each others nerves at a session, and you get them going off and colonising some other pub for a new session. Getting older doesn't mean getting more tolerant and mellow, not for many of us.
So you get a bunch of aging musicians living in each others pockets all the year round, there'll be murder. Which has its up side - there is nothing like a good feud to keep you young at heart. What I can envisage isn't a comfy respectable seaside village, with golf and crochet in between the sedate musical get togethers. It's more of a mountainy set up, with little settlements of feuding neighbours plotting vengeance in the kitchen, and playing good music on the front porch, and acting civilised at the dances that get set up by the nice people who are trying to get us to get along with each other. And we'd have some great wakes. A slightly less urban version of Desolation Row, maybe. For the last few - not so few - years I've been going to a round of festivals - Sidmnouth, Fylde, Whitby. See the same people, all getting a bit older, shrugging tolerantly or dismissively at the young sharp toothed musicians who play everything too fast ( and pointing out to our neighbours that it's a lot harder to pay slow). I'm always quite glad to get home, and off to the pub to play with a few mates. But I'd certainly like to pay a visit to the Mudcat Reservation. But it'd be better to do it over in Europe, where there's better free health care and fewer nuts with guns, and I could come and visit. |
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Subject: RE: Retirement/Retreat Community for M'cats From: DougR Date: 27 Oct 99 - 08:10 PM Little Neo: You get to guess the ages of all the men in the Village using WyoWoman's method of determing age. DougR |
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