BS: Big error in Skyfall!!

Subject: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 01:10 PM

Skyfall shows a train at Temple station, which is on the Circle and District line. But it was a Northern line train: a Tube train, not a full-size train like those that run on the Circle or District Line.

Are we not supposed to notice these things???

Good to see Albert Finney again though.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 01:42 PM

Ah, it seems that the disused Jubilee Platform at Charing Cross Station was used which carried the smaller tube trains rather than the larger type used on the Circle and District lines.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 01:42 PM

I cried twice when I noticed that

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 01:46 PM

I was glad to hear the guitar phrase made famous by Vic Flick in the James Bond Theme! Not sure if I like the Skyfawwww song by Adeeeeeew or not.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,A Red under your bed
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 01:50 PM

Hmm.. ok Bonz,

now waiting to see how you'll
wind this up to blame a simple movie production continuity error
on PC gone mad brigade /namby pamby welfare state /scrounging single parent /uncontrollable immigration...

etc.. etc.. etc..

& steel bands !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: greg stephens
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 02:40 PM

Accent wise, which particular part of the world was Albert Finney meant to be from?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 03:54 PM

I don't know, but the in the song "Run Down Heroes" it says that he had " a johnny in his pocket and brylcream in his hair"!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 03:58 PM

Shocking, Bonzo! Just shocking! I shall not sleep well tonight knowing about this dreadful movie-making error.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 04:42 PM

I'm undercome.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 12 - 05:51 PM

There are pills for that, Jock...

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 09:34 AM

I have re-read this thread and .................. I cird twice again

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 09:35 AM

Then when I saw what I had done I cried twice as well

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 09:43 AM

But, apart from that, completely true to life?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 10:19 AM

Bonzo was not the only one to notice

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 10:41 AM

They were going to use Kings Cross, platform 9 3/4 but they couldn't find it.

Bloody muggles!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Midchuck
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 11:01 AM

Skyfall shows a train at Temple station, which is on the Circle and District line. But it was a Northern line train: a Tube train, not a full-size train like those that run on the Circle or District Line.

Are we not supposed to notice these things???

Well, I doubt that many of us over here would be terribly bothered...

P.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 11:08 AM

Well, that's all very well for you to say Ms/Mr Mudchuck! Along with Morris Dancing, Pace Egging, Mummers Plays and Sea Shanties the complete coherence of Bond is one of our most important traditions!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 01:05 PM

There is also some pretty compelling evidence that real secret agents don't have nearly as much expensive gadgetry as Bond does, and don't kill nearly as many people or bed nearly as many drop-dead-gorgeous women...at least not without paying them first! With this in mind, I think the public should boycott James Bond movies and picket the theatres, demanding more truth and accuracy in popular escapist entertainment.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 01:37 PM

Good idea, Little Hawk. There should be absolute realism in all fantasy films. The characters should have dandruff and burp now and then. The spy should have a large paunch and man-boobs like normal men. He should have erectile problems when bedding the cellulite-legged ladies, and his car should have an out-of-date Tax disc on the windscreen.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 01:39 PM

I like the usual stereotyping where villains are physically deformed and / or gay.

Restores my cynicism in human nature.

Still, good to see 007 back all the same.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 02:07 PM

Bonz, save yourself the anguish of ever watching the Wesley Snipes action thriller "The Contractor" (2007)

The London trains & Stations vary between Welsh and Bulgarian,
depending wherever the production could afford to shoot scene by scene...

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 02:16 PM

I gave up James Bond when I watched the previous film..Casino Royale...

The gratuitous, close-up, lengthy and deeply violent scenes in it were horrifying, for me, at least.

So bye-bye, 007, for your producer/director left me very shaken, but not stirred at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 03:16 PM

The wrong type carriage on the line in Skyfall is rather small beer compared to the full length train puffing its way across the horizon in El Cid.
Or the cloak of a witness at a public hanging in 'Grip of the Strangler', which swings aside revealing a copy of The Daily Mirror - helps to liven up an indifferent film no end.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Nov 12 - 07:40 PM

The IMDB has a "goofs" page on all the movies it reviews - but it doesn't look like yours has made it yet.


IMDB page on Skyfall

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 04:11 AM

I vaguely remember being told that there were a whole load of errors in the Bond books too. I think one was Felix Leiter's car but I am not clear about them.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 04:14 AM

I remember another. Bond ordering half a bottle of Pol Roger, when they never existed. I'm quite surprised that Bozo did not mention that.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: bubblyrat
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 09:32 AM

The actress ,Alex Kingston , playing the part of Moll Flanders saying to the captain of a 17th Century sailing ship " Aren't you wanted on the bridge ?" And the episode of "Foyle's War" featuring a Royal Navy Captain with a moustache ! And I believe that if you watch closely in "Ben Hur" you can see someone driving a mini .Worst of all though ; Americans escaping from German POW camp in "The Great Escape" ( there were none there at that time ); and Steve McQueen's motor-bike was a Triumph !!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Will Fly
Date: 13 Nov 12 - 09:39 AM

Actually, the Triumph was thousands of years old and belonged to Moses.

"And the roar of Moses Triumph could be heard throughout Jericho..."

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 02:06 AM

Bridge mentions the books. Fleming once wrote that homosexuals are unable to whistle.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 06:00 AM

I've got a vague memory about Fleming being quizzed about the errors in the books, and replying that they were deliberate as he didn't want to fall foul of the Official Secrets Act.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Black Belt Caterpillar Wrestler
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:35 AM

Just think of it as a parallel universe!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Will Fly
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 07:38 AM

Eliza: The spy should have a large paunch and man-boobs like normal men. He should have erectile problems when bedding the cellulite-legged ladies, and his car should have an out-of-date Tax disc on the windscreen.

I'm just auditioning for the next Bond caper even as we speak...

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 08:05 AM

Well, yes ~~ so: my near-namesake Mike Myers?

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Nov 12 - 01:18 PM

What you are all forgetting is that he is a spy - This is probably a top secret line with a top secret size changing train...

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 12:07 AM

Bond is complete fantasy so any errors in the films is hardly going to matter anyway. Personally I would not waste my time and money.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 12:56 AM

Can somebody give us links to photos of the trains and stations in question?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 01:27 AM

"There is also some pretty compelling evidence that real secret agents don't have nearly as much expensive gadgetry as Bond does"

Not surprising seeing as how the fictional character James Bond is NOT a Secret Agent (No such thing in Government Service), he is an Intelligence Officer, his sources would be termed agents.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Jim McLean
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 04:39 AM

Bond is a an intelligence Officer who says his allegiance is to England. Later on we find he has a Scottish father and a Latino mother. A bit like Micheal Portillo?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Green Man
Date: 15 Nov 12 - 06:27 AM

There should be absolute realism in all fantasy films. The characters should have dandruff and burp now and then. The spy should have a large paunch and man-boobs like normal men. He should have erectile problems when bedding the cellulite-legged ladies, and his car should have an out-of-date Tax disc on the windscreen.

Obviously a Brit. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Nov 12 - 05:40 AM

LOL Will Fly, I'll be auditioning for the cellulite-legged lady. Actually, I imagine a spy would get by unnoticed if he closely resembled all the other people around him. If a clean-shaven Adonis in an extremely expensive and speedy car with a flash bird beside him rolled into town, people just might think. "Aha! A spy!" But if a chap in long baggy shorts, socks and sandals driving an ageing Vauxhall Corsa appeared, trailing BO and with yellow teeth, people wouldn't say anything at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 12 - 08:46 PM

That's for damned sure! ;-D

I actually really liked the recent "Casino Royale"...liked "Quantum of Solace" less. I think Daniel Craig makes a superb James Bond. It's sheer escapism, so I don't worry about it resembling reality.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 02:17 AM

"But if a chap in long baggy shorts, socks and sandals driving an ageing Vauxhall Corsa appeared, trailing BO and with yellow teeth, people wouldn't say anything at all."

Depends where it is of course. If your guy in baggy shorts, socks and sandals turned up at the expensive casino in Shanghai ( ie where Bond nearly has a run in with a kimono lizard in the new film) then your guy might not only be very noticed but he probably wouldn't even be let in! The rest of the characters were in expensive suits etc so Bond blended in.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 02:22 AM

"I think Daniel Craig makes a superb James Bond" Being Scottish I supposed I'm supposed to say "no no Sean is the best Bond" but actually I think Daniel Craig is the best Bond there's been. I kind of thought that anyway but Skyfall has convinced me all the more. Saying that I'm not a real fan of the movies but I really did enjoy the new one.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 05:30 AM

Allan, you're right, it does depend on where the spy goes. My description would help him to fit in on the streets of Dereham for example (a small town near where I live) but not in Monte Carlo.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 07:22 AM

I'm more of a fan of the Bond themes rather than the films themselves. Still can't decide which is my all time favourite.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 09:01 AM

Chongo tells me that he is negotiating a deal to appear in the next film in the franchise. He'll play a special investigator from Africa who works alongside Bond (Daniel Craig). Bond will attempt to penetrate the heavily guarded Lichtenstein defense establishment and prevent deployment of their doomsday weapon...the dreaded Jello Bomb! Should be interesting. They're reputed to be developing a mango-flavored version of it, and that's where Chongo's expertise will prove vital.

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 12:14 PM

"on the streets of Dereham" My wife lived in Norwich when she was young but went to school in Dereham! Not sure which school but it was a girl's school

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Nov 12 - 05:22 PM

Very interesting Allan! Not sure which school it might have been.
Possibly Neatherd High School (formerly Dereham High School for Girls). Funnily enough we don't go to Dereham much. We prefer Norwich and Wroxham for shopping etc. (Sorry about this thread drift)
Patsy, I also like the Bond themes, but don't rate Adele's song much, do you?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 18 Nov 12 - 05:22 AM

"but don't rate Adele's song much, do you?"

At least she doesn't speak during the song!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Nov 12 - 09:10 AM

Eh? Does she hum it?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn
Date: 18 Nov 12 - 10:27 AM

Yes Eliza it was Dereham High School For Girls. She lived in Old Costessey on the outskirts of Norwcih though. We used to go to Norwich a lot but haven't been for years as my in-laws have moved up here to the Scottish Borders now. Norwich is a lovely ity though. We used to go to Roy's Of Wroxham shopping.

I know what you mean about the theme tune. I didn't really rate it but it did really work on the credits of the film. Songs should stand up on their own though!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Nov 12 - 01:09 PM

Ah Allan, Costessey. Now that's a village that 'strangers' mispronounce, together with Wymondham, Guist and Bylaugh!

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 05:02 AM

I know how to pronounce "Wymondham", Eliza, because Valerie & I went several years running to a Norfolk County Council Drama Summer School held in the 60s at Wymondham College.

But please enlighten as to correct pronunciation of those others, please.

~M~

sorry if drift; but as I never tire of saying, I am like that Dickens character who always "wants to know, you know"]

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 07:03 AM

I knew Wymondham too and Costessey is pronounced Cossey. Not sure about the others. Isn't there a place there called Happisburgh which is pronounced something like Haysburgh?

Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 19 Nov 12 - 08:51 AM

This thread has suddenly taken a Norfolk turn!
Bylaugh is pronounced Beeler, Guist is pronounced Geist (as in poltergeist) Wymondham is Windem, and yes, Allan, Happisburgh is Hayesburgh, where there's a lovely red and white striped lighthouse, but the whole village is falling into the sea bit by bit. My favourite is Sparham, which the locals elongate almost indefinitely to Spaaaaaaaarham. There's a Nowhere Lane too, near Spaaaaaarham! I almost forgot the village of Fustyweed, which is just up the road from us. And Little and Great Snoring of course. Funny place, Norfolk. (Deepest apologies for this thread drift!)