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Subject: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 05 Apr 13 - 10:30 PM Seein' as there are so many Obama haters here that rather than have one stupid hate thread after another why not just provide these haters with their own thread??? Have at it, haters... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Apr 13 - 11:09 PM Now this is DUMB. Disagreeing with policies doesn't have to go into 'hate-land'...but this knee-jerk over re-action nonsense, is nothing more than an attempt to take rational eyes off the subject....and, believe it or not, I don't exactly 'blame' Obama..after all, he really doesn't have a choice! What's he supposed to do?...reach around himself and cut off the puppeteer's strings?? Where I do fault him, and he could pull it off, is that he should level with the American people...but he won't...that's not what he was nominated to do....and..that being said, the ramifications would send the 'average American' into a tailspin! Do you ideologues actually think this guy, when facing an economic decision, whips out his book of Marx?? Fuck no, he whips out his cabinet and they pour over the figures, with the accountants....that is IF you believe he does ANY of it....what he does do, and the media covers it, is gives 'pep talks'..just enough to buy more time while the governmental arm of the bankster/corporate world tightens the noose, on our freedoms, so they are even more of control of everything..sorta like 'tyrannical'. I posted a link, about the Monsanto Immunity shit that is being stuffed into the Democratic budget....did ANY of your favorite 'news' outlets even report it??....So on one hand, the Republickedcunts want to repeal Obamacare, in their budget, and if you don't like that, you 'get' to support Monsanto's GMO bullshit!!..What a fucking choice!.. Then you say, well one is just a 'little less evil' than the other one ....horseshit!!...How about representing the will of the people, instead of giving us two bogus choices to pick from???!!!??? We 'get' to chose between cow-pies and cattle crap....and THEN....we argue and tear each other, and the country apart bitching about the one that is 'not as bad' as the other!!.....and if you say ANYTHING about it, you get labeled as a 'racist' or 'bigot' or some other misapplied term! If I say it's the corruption of BOTH parties, which it CLEARLY is, then the diehards come on, and say that that is Tea party doctrine! When are the people who THOUGHT they were so fucking 'hip' going to get a clue???? This isn't about 'hating Obama'...nobody should....nor should they blindly look the other way, and 'defend' him either....and you know why???...because, in the end, you'll end up hating him even more from being disappointed because he 'let you down'.....sorta like G.W. Bush did to the Republicans....which they are still trying to recover from! Can you imagine the outcry, from the 'so-called left' if Bush signed into law NDAA????...and if he did, would Obama repeal it???..Hell no! This is a runaway train, out of control...well sorta...let me correct that...'out of the people's control'....you call yourselves 'Democrats'....but Democracy it is not! Republicans call us a Republic,....but are they representing US????.....fuck no!.....and the noose tightens, while they've conned you into working for the clampdown! Nobody should 'hate' Obama....I don't...I never took him seriously in the first place! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 05 Apr 13 - 11:21 PM Shouldn't that be "another Obama hate thread?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 05 Apr 13 - 11:26 PM Hear hear!!!!! I can't hate Obama for what he is. That would be like hating a mentally retarded person for being mentally retarded. Or hating an old man for being old. I can only be saddened. And sympathetic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 05 Apr 13 - 11:42 PM Confront the issue of Obama cutting spending on social programs, bobette. Don't resort to calling people who are disappointed in him haters. Social programs are supposed to be sacred to the Democratic Party. He's even going to cut unemployment payments. Less money to healthcare providers. Lose your job. Get sick and die. Obamadoesnotcare. He just wants money. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Apr 13 - 12:02 AM Niggardly Bastard: "He just wants money." Actually, HE 'might' be in it for the money...BUT...money is not the goal....power is..because with money you get the power...and when you have the power, to object is control....so it might not be quite accurate to blame the hired help! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 12:16 AM I could just cry!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Apr 13 - 01:04 AM My computer couldn't play the video......what was it? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 04:56 AM Sometimes my links won't work. I'll try again. http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6qgWH89qWks&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 04:58 AM Hillary shedding crocodile tears. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Apr 13 - 05:20 AM That Kenya-born Muslim socialist is going to take our guns away so we won't be able to overthrow governments that displease us....Oh, the injustice of it all!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 06:08 AM Let's all sing together (in 3 part harmony) "YOU DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: kendall Date: 06 Apr 13 - 06:21 AM I'm not happy with him for signing that bill that allows Monsanto to poison us legally, or, his willingness to cut social benefits, but, sometimes you do what you must do. He has a giant millstone around his neck, (the republican opposition) and it's a wonder he can move at all. Politics is the art of compromise (???) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 06:28 AM He has multiple Republicans in his cabinet. He has no real Republican opposition. He is one of them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 08:53 AM Hooray...It's working... No new Obama hate threads today... Congrats to all the haters for going 12 hours without starting yet another one... Now, ya'll have at it... Hate away!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:16 AM You're an Obama apologist, bobette. In your eyes, he can do no wrong. You just keep dishing out the excuses. It's all the Republican's fault. But he regularly changes his position on issues and goes along with the so called opposition. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:23 AM I hate Obama for being too charming and too smooth on the basketball court! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 10:05 AM If this is to complex for you read it slowly. http://www.salon.com/2013/04/05/how_conservatives_still_run_america_despite_losing_elections/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 10:17 AM How can you hate this man? He had to apologize. But he drinks beer! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 10:44 AM http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/04/05/obama-social-security_n_3022074.html?icid=hp_politics_art_more How can you like this guy??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 11:13 AM As a matter of semantics, how is limiting increases a "cut?" "superlative CPI." It works by assuming that if a product becomes too expensive -- say, beef you eat chicken." I don't get to eat beef except as a rare luxury now. Are they going to give me BEEF MONEY on social security??? Whooooo Hooooooo! Happy times!!! BEEF MONEY!!! WOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 06 Apr 13 - 12:05 PM I enjoy beef, chicken and pork all from one meat product. Vienna Sausage. Yum! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Apr 13 - 01:03 PM Could we somehow cross-link this with all the past Bush Hate and Sarah Palin Hate threads, so as to have even more fun? Oh, and there are Cheney Hate and Blair Hate threads too. Maybe link those in as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Stringsinger Date: 06 Apr 13 - 01:06 PM Hatred is not the issue. The corruption of the Democratic Party is and the lies of the Republican Party. Obama is not to be hated. Hatred never solved any problems. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Apr 13 - 01:19 PM Right on. It's never been about hating Obama...or hating Bush, but about questioning policies that are just downright wrong from the getgo. I do find it ironical, though, that people who spent 8 years generating massive amounts of anger at George Bush can't seem to see that Obama has followed in Bush's footsteps and is doing very similar things now that he's in office. Matter of fact, he's gotten away with stuff (like the NDAA) that Bush could only have dreamed of...simply because he's not a Republican, so the many people who voted for him won't subject him to the scrutiny and criticism that they would have subjected a Republican to. This is how those 2 parties control America and achieve a common purpose. They are immune to attack from most of their own supporters due to their supporters' fear of "the other party" getting into office, and that just keeps the old imperial game rolling along forever....because it's only necessary to fool half of the people all of the time to make the imperial game workable. Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama have all been servants of the same world-devouring and corrupt imperial order. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Greg F. Date: 06 Apr 13 - 03:03 PM Ah yes, Little - another permutation of your "there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans, everyone is corrupt, its all useless, poor poor pitiful us, blah blah blah mantra ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Apparently you don't get tired of the same old bullshit, and it never occurs to you that others might. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 05:15 PM Ditto, Greg... I used to think that LH was so brilliant but once he got hooked on GfinS he started rusting and been rusting ever since... Wish it weren't so... Seems that Chongz is more enlightened than his creator... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:20 PM (shrug) How is being personally criticized by 2 guys on an Internet talk site supposed to affect my life? I notice that I'm talking about a political system, and your only reaction to that is to talk about me? The truth is, Bobert, you were quite happy when I was criticizing the Bush administration for 8 years! And I did criticize it. Very thoroughly. That fit your agenda, so you loved what I was saying and thought I was "brilliant". But when Bush got replaced by Obama, then you became very uncomfortable with my criticisms of American policy. American policy has hardly changed at all in the interim. Your government is run on an imperial policy that involves trying to enforce a Pax Americana on the world through military supremacy. This leads to a certain number of armed conflicts in various places, and those conflicts are mostly tied to controlling strategic resources and trade routes. It hasn't made any real difference replacing Bush with Obama. The imperial policy rolls on...and just as the Nazis or the Italian Fascists or the Japanese militarists were in the 30s and 40s, this American policy is the enemy of the whole rest of the world (with the exception of Israel and the UK, who are partners in it). That's why the USA is hated and feared by most nations on the face of the Earth today. Now, remember....I was absolutely DELIGHTED when Obama won in 2008! I've still got the paper saved here from the day after he won (Toronto Star. Nov 5/08. Headline reads "A Dream Fulfilled" "Obama Overcomes"). Virtually all Canadians were delighted he'd won. I've never seen people happier here with an American election result. Because he looked like a progressive who would change things after 8 terrible years of Bush and Cheney. He has not turned out to be anything of the sort. He is right of center in his policies, his advisors are Wall Street insiders, and he's continuing in George Bush's footsteps. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:30 PM Little Hawk always encourages the trolls to be all that they can be. He disregards the lies and helps them attack the trollees by trying to appeal to our consciences. He tries to be our Jiminy Cricket, their fairy Godmother. I have no idea why. Maybe he sticks up for the underdog no matter matter how rabid that dog may be. He's sided with much worse trolls than these two. Maybe because he doesn't get enough attention playing the same song over and over so he joins the Troll Orchestra. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:39 PM I really don't mind the criticism of Obama as much as the GfinS "Both Sides Shuffle" (pick your own key)... Seems that you are stuck on that mythology as if it was back in '96 or 2000... Times change, man... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:59 PM How about if I suggest some relevant reading material? Try this: ########## You'll find plenty of historical material in there to back up my opinions. It's a big book. It'll take a few days to read all of it if you decide to give it a try. Jack, I'm not even thinking about "the trolls"...whoever that may be...when I'm talking politics. I'm stating my own opinions, period. If I happen to agree with one of "the trolls" on something...(shrug)...so what? There's a tight little club here. You know exactly how it works. Some people are "in"...and others are not. The ones who are "in" can personally attack anyone they want to in any way they want, and the moderators don't do a thing about it. I don't believe in that little club, and I don't bow down to it. I just state my own opinions, independently regardless. I've never been inclined to bow to peer pressure...or gangs of bullies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Apr 13 - 08:10 PM Tell me, Bobert, one thing that Bush did that Obama 'undid'.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:00 PM If you and yer circle jerk partner would spend a little more attention to "real news" and less time in Tin Foil Nation blogs you would know the following: 1. Obama inherited two expensive fucked up wars... 2. Obama inherited the worst economy since the late 1920s... 3. Obama inherited deficits that the Bush people back loaded to continue to rise no matter what any future president did... 4. Obama has had the higest level of obstructionism since Lincoln had to deal with the Southern Democrats since 1860... These are the realities here... Ya'll need to each pledge a week to read "real time" news... Not books... Books are a waste of time... People read them to support their biases... Here's my suggestion to ya'll... Sign up at the Washington Post and read ***everything*** Read news... Read op-eds... Read discussions... About a week and you will each see that you aren't in the here and now real world... I spend at least 2 hours every day doing exactly what I am suggesting and have for years so one week won't kill ya'll... I mean, no offense, but you song is so old that it has rust on top of rust... Sorry that ya'll are trying to relive 1992, 1996 and 2000 when your song was in but "it was a new day yesterday, it's an old day now"... This shit ain't on Obama... It on the rich people and their Republican buddies, especially the Tea Party, who have short-circuited the Founding Fathers little experiment... Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: kendall Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:14 PM Would we have been better off to elect that draft dodging, tax evading lying, vulture capitalist, animal abusing dim wit who suggested opening the windows in an airplane? I don't think so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:38 PM OK, you couldn't answer that one...so try it this way...What did bush fuck up, that Obama fixed. ..Mind you, I'm not a Bush fan. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:50 PM Evasion, GfinS.... That's all you do... I challenge you to get into the here and now and you, ahhhh... ...play child's games... Get a life and get an education and, oh, BTW, you are so ignorant that that you don't have a clue... But, hey... Your games are amusing... Talking with you is like talking with a 3 year old who is stuck in saying "Why" a thousand times... You won't take the challenge because it would mean that you might have to actually, ahhhhh, learn just how ignorant you are??? Horrors!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:52 PM Oh, and BTW... Your bud won't take the challenge either... Like they say, "Ignorance is bliss"... Have a blissful evening... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:57 PM "Would we have been better off to elect that draft dodging, tax evading lying, vulture capitalist, animal abusing dim wit who suggested opening the windows in an airplane? I don't think so. " LOL LOL LOL! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 10:06 PM GfinS and LH wouldn't care less... Oh, opps... My bad... If we did they wouldn't know that it had happened because they live a parallel universe that doesn't do, ahhhh, reality... But good one, Capt'n... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 07 Apr 13 - 12:49 AM Answer the question, bobette. What has Prez al-Obama done to undo the damage GWB did? Don't engage in personal attacks and namecalling. Answer the question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Ebbie Date: 07 Apr 13 - 02:08 AM Well, he got us out of Iraq. As for the deficit- ya don't seem to have noticed that the little Bush went to war -twice - with no plans to pay for them. You don't mind that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 07 Apr 13 - 02:18 AM He should apologize to the Iraqi people for the illegal invasion of their country. And have Bush and Cheney among others executed. I knew Bush was throwing the country into a major depression. And Obama is going to take care Wall Street. While we all get by on less and less. |
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Subject: BS: Obama Love Thread From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 07 Apr 13 - 06:08 AM Hate is such a negative term. Love, however, is positive. So, I dedicate this thread to expressing all the things you love about President Obama. Have at it, lovers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Will Fly Date: 07 Apr 13 - 07:21 AM This is one of my favourite quotes from the left-wing English politician Tony Benn: As a minister, I experienced the power of industrialists and bankers to get their way by use of the crudest form of economic pressure, even blackmail... These lessons led me to the conclusion that the UK is only superficially governed by MPs and the voters who elect them. Parliamentary democracy is, in truth, little more than a means of securing a periodical change in the management team, which is then allowed to preside over a system that remains in essence intact. If the British people were ever to ask themselves what power they truly enjoyed under our political system they would be amazed to discover how little it is... He wrote this many years ago and I think it could probably apply to both the US and the UK now. I can't comment specifically on Obama, Romney et al, because I don't know enough about the US political system - but I do know that though governments come and governments go, the social fabric and structures essentially seem to remain the same. Or perhaps they don't, as we are now seeing the rich become richer and the poor become poorer... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 07 Apr 13 - 07:43 AM I couldn't agree more. Now Obama wants to see increased tax revenues. I think we know what's coming next. Remember Ronald Reagan's IRS terrorism? Get ready for another round of that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: Bobert Date: 07 Apr 13 - 09:24 AM More complete ignorance (or denial) of reality, N.B, on your part... Got news for you... Obama is neither a king or a dictator... No matter what he privately might want to do there aren't constitutional paths for him to do it... He's doing about as much as he can do given his constitutional powers... Jack is right... He, as promised gotten US out of Iraq... And he's trying to do the same in Afghanistan... The problems with wars is that they just don't end well too often, with WW II being an exception to the rule... War for American Independence... didn't end well or there wouldn't have been the War of 1812 The American Civil War... didn't end well and still not over WW I... didn't end well or we wouldn't have had WW II 20 years later Korean War... didn't end well or at all for that matter Vietnam... didn't end well Iraq... didn't end well Afghanistan... won't end well So Obam is being held to a higher standard that all the presidents that have come before him... That is reality... It's easy to say things like "We should apologize to Iraq" as a private citizen... Impossible as president... If Obama were to do that he be beaten into a pulp by the right wing and they would use that one pronouncement to render him all but dead politically... I mean, you and the other two rose-colored-glasses, GfinS and sidekick, LH, don't do reality... I mean, you can go down the list of things you think Obama should or can do but until you take them glasses off and become informed you three sound like 2 year olds... Sorry, I am a student of politics and I do reality... I read more differing stories, opinions and articles on a full spectrum of real world events every day than I'd bet the 3 of you do in a year... That's why I put up a challenge for ya'll to get your heads out of each others asses and actually become part of the real world and not ya'll's make-believe 2 year old's world... Again, lets do some reality: 1. Obama was handed 2 fucked up wars... 2. Obama was handed the worst economy since the 1920s... 3. Obama was handed the Congress that has been the most obstructionist since 1860... 4. In 2010 the wealthy bought even more of Congress with their Tea Party puppets who are out to destroy the government... Again, given the "real" realities of what was going to be possible Jesus Christ Himself wasn't going do more than what Obama has done... Your childish question of what Obama has done that Bush didn't do is just that... When you start asking adult questions then I'll know that you are reading adult materials... Right now, the 3 of you aren stuck at the "Jack 'n Jill" level of reality... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 07 Apr 13 - 09:45 AM I think you misunderstood the question, bobette. The question is : What has Obama undone of Bush's making? I can think of only one thing. Those stupid amber, yellow, red, purple and vermillion alerts ( just joking about the last two...hehe!). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:12 AM Will Fly's post was dead on!..and N.G.'s follow up post was right there with it...(as mine have been, Little Hawk's and a few others, who aren't consumed with 'party politics'...or is that 'potty politics'. We'll call them 'Partitions' (because that's what they are about), seem to be in a mode of perpetually making up lame excuses, whether it be Repubs or Demo's, because they refuse to look at things the way they really are, and rather keep 'hoping' instead of 'changing'. You'd think that in their hoping, they finally hope that SOMETHING they say, might be at least, in line with what is really going on. Methinks they've 'hoped' and excused' themselves into an alternate reality and universe, AND THEN, more often than not, they are the same characters who attack 'religion'!!! As I said before, I don't hate Obama...he's only doing what he is paid to do...the problem is, that our tax dollars are buying the best representation of the bankster/corporations agendas that money can buy...and this keeps going on, whether they are from either of their subsidiary political parties!! ...and then the over re-active 'claim' that those who clearly see it, are somehow 'racist', or 'haters'. Some people may or may not only see 'color'....me?..I see 'clear'! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Niggardly Bastard Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:24 AM bobette is an Obama apologist. Plain and simple. I tried to start a more upbeat, positive "Obama Love Thread", but a moderator combined it with this miasma of negativity. So, let's do it here. What do you absolutely love about President Obama? I think he has a certain hip, Sammy Davis Jr kind of cool about him. I bet he would have made a great member of The Rat Pack. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama Hate Thread... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 12:06 PM ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....okay, give me a hint..... GfS |
