BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th

Subject: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: pdq
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 10:40 AM

The Democrats will wrest three governorships away from the Wrascally RePubbyPoos.

Way to go, Democrats!

Get a bottle of Champaigne for tomorrow night and celebrate!

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 11:13 AM

The unintentionally funniest ad I've seen is R Paul for Scott Brown (a carpetbagger who was un-elected in Mass so he thought he'd try NH.) Wish the "leaving-the-hell-alone" part started prior to the ad.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 12:13 PM

Wonder if people would vote if they got their finger cut off if they didn't. There are places where people insist on that right despite that particular danger.

American apathy appalls, anomie's all apparent.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 01:53 PM

Vote! Vote! Dammit. Vote!

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 02:28 PM

We in the UK have a significant by-election looming later in November, in Medway - the renegade conservative Mark Reckless left the conservative party to join UKIP so triggering a by-election, and there is great concern that he may be re-elected as a UKIP MP.

For the benefit of the colonies, UKIP is a bit like the conservatives but further right and even less intelligent and more xenophobic. It is rabidly opposed to the European Union and immigrants. Its senior members want to accelerate the privatisation of the NHS, it supports flat taxation, and opposes the welfare state in all its forms. Its leader pretends to challenge the establishment, but is a public schoolboy (that's "privately educated") and a financier and banker.

In short UKIP has the brains of Sarah Palin without the looks.

He is and UKIP are backed by "Britain First" - paramilitary idiots, total grunts, knuckledraggers who wear an almost military uniform, drive armoured vehicles, and bully old and female Muslims on their own, but run a mile if offered real opposition.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 03:57 PM

I keep being pulled hither and thither. On the one - and bigger - hand I think it is essential that Democrats keep their majority in the US Senate. On the other - and sneakier - hand I keep thinking it would serve the Republicans right if they were to be held responsible. Republicans are very good at saying what they are against. What they are for, not so much.

In 2016 I expect my bemusement will only worsen.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 05:58 PM

Didn't Hither, Thither and Yon go off in a wooden shoe?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 08:18 PM

Hold your nose and vote the straight Democratic ticket.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 08:58 PM

An editorial in the Army Times, October 13, 2014...the Army Times!!! (I'm glad I've already voted.)

"In recent years, members of both the House and Senate have habitually carped about President Obama usurping Congress by making decisions and taking action without expressly consulting them- as he's done in launching airstrikes on Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria.

"But if lawmakers are feeling bypassed and marginalized, they have only themselves to blame. With partisan polarization still at fever pitch on Capitol Hill, the legislative branch can't find even a sliver of common ground to carry out its most routine responsibilities
to manage the nation's finances - much less show leadership on
quick-burning, fast moving international crises.

"And so, eight weeks into the bombing campaign against the Islamic State, we have the tragicomic spectacle of Congress still dithering about whether, and when, to awake from its torpor to vote to authorize the use of military force in the Middle East. Some lawmakers want-to take such a vote before the November mid-term elections and attach the use-of-force legislation to another, larger bill, perhaps the defense appropriations or authorization bill. Others want to punt the issue to the new Congress that will convene in January. None seem willing to acknowledge the obvious: The world moves very fast these days, and this train has left the station.

"The real reason lawmakers are avoiding this vote is because they are loathe to go on public record on such a hot-button issue ahead of the upcoming elections. It's one of the more egregious recent examples of Congress putting self-interest above duty.

"If lawmakers truly want to play a role in overseeing the interests
of our nation and the welfare of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and
Marines, they are free to engage at any time."

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Janie
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 09:09 PM

What Joe F. said. Except here in NC, new election laws, among other restrictive provisions, no longer permit simple straight party voting.

Also here in NC keeping my eyes, fingers, arms, legs and general disposition crossed for Kay Hagan. Who I don't even like much. Gonna be a squeaker.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Nov 14 - 11:03 PM

Hmmm. We've got Dither Hither and Thither. Is that a law firm? Or a modern band?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Janie
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 12:04 AM

It isn't rare to not have good choices, be it politics or life in general. To quote some one other than me, (Robert Penn Warren? Or not,) "Life isn't meant to be easy. It is meant to be life." There are always choices, no matter what.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 09:15 AM

Vote, but don't elect or re-elect anybody.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,sciencegeek
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 09:32 AM

well, I voted to keep out state comptroller... our pension fund actually makes money... which is more than I can say for our annuities or IRAs.

I just vote against the GOP turned reactionaries that want to bankrupt me and the rest of the middle class.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 09:33 AM

Well from over here, I see it as "the end of innocence" for the US electorate, and I am sincerely sad to see it happen.
You are about to lose something very precious indeed.

Good does not overcome evil just by itself, it requires work, thought, and deed.
The next time someone promises change, they will have to prove it to you.....you will want to see it in tablets of stone.....wont you?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 10:03 AM

I will remember there are three branches of government and one of them alone can't change things. Hoping the layabouts are encouraged to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 01:58 PM

We three voted. Va is proposing another constitutional amendment, which I am against kind of on principle (there are very few things I think we have a *constitutional* right to, and those other things should be legislated, imho) but ended up having an interestingly educated discussion with the twins (now 19!) about whether going around legislation could be a good idea when legislation is not happening, as it isn't right now...

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 03:47 PM

The Republicans might win control of the Senate. If they do, I'm not sure whether I hope they'll immediately start introducing nasty, conservative bills... which Obama will immediately veto... or whether I hope they'll just sit back & wait 2 years in hopes of getting a Republican president. I expect they won't be able to resist inventing horrendous bills that Democrats like, but with amendments that we don't like.



(I voted today... they didn't need crowd control... *sigh*)

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 05:05 PM

I voted this morning. They said it had been busy, there was a steady stream. Hope it keeps up.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 05:51 PM

Alaska has some nationally important issues going... Senate control, marijuana..

Maryland, not so much.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Why I won't vote today
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 06:09 PM

I've been given a choice--Democrat or Republican--and I can't vote for either party. Especially when I know the following three things:

1) Most laws the government passes are illegal. The Supreme Court decided over 200 years ago in Marbury vs. Madison that any law which violates the constitution is void upon its passage. The same goes for court decisions--if they violate the constitution they are void upon their issuance. If I know that, why don't our politicians? Short answer, they do. I can't vote for people who would knowingly violate the constitution in defiance of Marbury vs. Madison.

2) September 11. Six of the ten members of the Kean Commission refused to sign their report after they "investigated" the events of 9/11. The report was a cover-up. And according to law, if you take part in a crime after its commission (like through a cover-up), then you are guilty of that crime. Therefore, the U.S. government is guilty of the 9/11 attacks. And everyone in Washington knows it. How can I vote for people who took part in the 9/11 attacks?

3) Disappearing children. 47,000 children disappeared at the U.S./Mexican border in 2013-2014. Why doesn't the government investigate that? Plenty of media attention is given to the shooting of one young man in Missouri, but the media can't look into the disappearance of 47,000? What happened to the children? Are they working in sweatshops? Sex slaves? Human sacrifices? Again, if I know about this situation, then so do the people in government. And failure to pursue the issue makes them responsible for each individual disappearance.

So instead of voting this time around I'm writing this. I'm telling you, we have a criminal government. Our politicians (all of them) knowingly vote for illegal laws, cover up the crimes of September 11, and refuse to pursue possible human slave traffickers. I can't endorse any of that with a vote, and all I can think to do is publicly condemn the criminals who want me to approve of their actions.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Janie
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 08:56 PM

While Hagan has an early slim lead, (NC) those districts that are completed are in areas of the state that could be somewhat predicted to go narrowly for Hagan. Definitely a nail biter.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Janie
Date: 04 Nov 14 - 09:40 PM

Looking at the map of counties that have not yet reported, along with the current 9000 vote lead by Tillis, not looking good for Hagan. Sadly predict that Tillis will win by a nose.

Whatever happens, it won't be the end of the world, nor the dawn of a new world (at least I hope not-in either case.) Doesn't have to be, but that depends on how philosophical vs ideological and or/unconscious people choose to be in terms of the meaning they make.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 12:05 AM

Guest Why....etc.-You don't have to vote if you don't want, but don't expect a prize for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 12:28 AM

Guest Why...
Appreciate your concerns. But your response accomplishes exactly nothing.
Nothing.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 02:28 AM

Well, tonight I am not a happy camper.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 02:56 AM

AS foretold, by yours truly, that if the liberals didn't hold the Obama administration accountable, and just went along with the lies, and deceptive talking points, that the liberals would be set back for YEARS!
So, you can thank the 'so-called liberals', who are just empty shells, full of talking points, even when they are defending and promoting out-front lies, for this slaughter....in case you haven't heard, Republicans picked up 7, possibly 8 (Alaska pending) Senate seats, and 10 Congressional seats and a slug of Governorships, across the country...and to paint this as anything other that a referendum on Obama, and his inept, and corrupt administration, is just nothing but 'so-called liberal' spin.
The scary thing is, now we have possibly a hawkish backlash...and new pigs to feed at the trough.
Regardless, now the people have spoken...and guess what?....They are telling you the same thing I've been telling you....and BTW, the Republicans DIDN'T even have a platform to run on....Obama did it to himself AND the liberals!

Next time, listen!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 03:29 AM

I've said it before and say it again.

Keep banging the rocks together guys.



🇺🇸🎭🌽🔫

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Richard Bridge without a cookie
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 03:51 AM

America joins the third world. A world where racial prejudice is the norm.


To quote some of another politician's words -

I warn you that you will have pain – when healing and relief depend upon payment. I warn you that you will have ignorance – when talents are untended and wits are wasted, when learning is a privilege and not a right. I warn you that you will have poverty – when pensions slip and benefits are whittled away by a government that won't pay in an economy that can't pay. I warn you that you will be cold – when fuel charges are used as a tax system that the rich don't notice and the poor can't afford.

I warn you that you must not expect work – when many cannot spend, more will not be able to earn. I warn you not to go into the streets alone after dark or in protest in the light. I warn you that you will be quiet – when the curfew of fear and the gibbet of unemployment make you obedient. I warn you that you will be home-bound – when fares and transport bills kill leisure and lock you up.

I warn you not to be ordinary. I warn you not to be young. I warn you not to fall ill. I warn you not to get old.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 06:10 AM

My God!.....One would almost believe Richard is an anti- capitalist!
but of course he isn't.

The answer is simple, stop fighing one another and unite.
Fight the system which produces Bushes, Clintons, Reagans, Kennedys, Obamas to order, the next one will be a woman, but don't be fooled again.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 06:16 AM

Sad thing is you WERE a free people with good hearts, now you must become part of the macabre political dance.....just like us.

Don't listen to any insulting shit about "banging rock together", as a nation you are miles ahead of the UN-UK.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 06:58 AM

Right Goofus, why didn't we listen to you when you parroted what 99.9% of political prognosticators were predicting. Get over yourself dumb ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 07:25 AM

For God's sake don't tell him to get over any ass, dumb or otherwise. He doesn't usually take long to turn every thread into his puerile fascination.

For that matter, he lives in a country with a system advanced enough that the good people of Scotland roundly rejected ideolog shit and used their common sense the other month.

So you voted in the tea party to run things? Another Bush is their best hope for The White House too....

Enjoy.

😂😂😂😂

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,#
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 07:52 AM

Why do I think this is what some Romans felt in the 300s?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,chester
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 08:19 AM

The sneer is gone from Barry's lip, his teeth are clenched in hate, He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate; And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go, And now the air is shattered by the force of Barry's blow. Oh, somewhere in this favoured land the sun is shining bright, The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light; And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout, But there is no joy in Mudville—mighty Barry has struck out.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 09:03 AM

Notice how I was confusing Goofus and Akenaton there?

Easily done.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 09:41 AM

Two, four, or six more years of SOS.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: bobad
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 09:52 AM

This says it all: The American people have spoken....

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 10:12 AM

Sour grapes!....The 'so-called liberals' have crashed and burned...they had their chance and muffed it...now all they can do is slur those who told them this would happen...even those who warned them that this would happen.
It just goes to show that their ideological brain-lock is REALLY out of sync with what is really going on!...as in delusional!
Some of Obama's actions(or inactions) I agreed with....he just shouldn't have lied and deceived so much....and the rest of the country seems to agree.
The Republican landslide can only be blamed on this.
Perhaps some of you should open your eyes, and stop trying to ram through policies out of emotional frenzies, like the 'War on Women', 'racism' and made up notions of 'bigotry'...and then bullshitting about it....nobody is buying that crap.
You should have insisted on more honesty, less partisan divide, less ineptness, and less ruling against the will of the people. You're out of touch to even pay much attention to!
But, as I've said numerous times before, the corrupt political machine, like a boxer, hits you with a 'right' then a 'left'..and as long as you target the hands, you won't knock out that same boxer!..OK, we got beat up by the 'left', now we're going to get beat up by the 'right'.
Hope you're all satisfied....you got what you deserve because you're so blind!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 10:27 AM

Someone toss goofus a bone. He's straining at his tether and foaming at the mouth again.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 10:41 AM

As someone once said ( after the last election)

Elections have consequences.


It appears that the President's policies also have consequences, especially at elections.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 11:18 AM

I knew the predictions- I just hoped a rabbit would emerge from the hat.

You know, I would love to think that the Republican legislature will gather itself up and decide upon accomplishments. Mitch McConnell made the pitch for it last night and if he and the Congress followed through we could at long last see progress. I would be happy to see the Repubs get the credit- if it meant that the country would benefit.


So. Now for the chaos.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 11:41 AM

I had kind of been hoping for a Republican advantage in this election to help the pendulum swing in the other direction for the next election, but man. So ignorance, much backward, wow.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 11:43 AM

In the local elections the Democrats took all but one spot. This includes two seats in the state legislature...but so what?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 12:36 PM

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. I just don't understand how ANYBODY can fall for the idiotic Republican claptrap and obstructionism. It demonstrates such total stupidity.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: olddude
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 02:11 PM

Well I hope Cruz doesn't bully sensible people and cause a government shut down again or another do nothing Congress like before. Could be a good or bad change lets hope

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: olddude
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 02:14 PM

Mitch McConnell is sounding reasonable. I hope it holds

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 02:25 PM

I suppose from our side of the pond, we try to see your two parties as mirroring our own, but the reality is that Democrats are similar to our Conservatives and Republicans are similar to our conservatives if they weren't reined in.

Rightly or wrongly, the republicans are seen as the loony end of the spectrum, which is odd because to be fair, many of my business colleagues have been active members or supporters yet their social and welfare policies towards their employees could put themost ethical UK companies to shame.

Politics of another country are difficult to fathom, hell, our own is bad enough... But the idea of a stalemate and nothing being done over the next two years is rather worrying considering how, like it or not, US interference elsewhere means your government can be as influential as our own in some areas of trade, commerce and foreign policy.

Hence whilst it is nothing to do with us, I can't help having a view. (I do have a right of residency through business investments, but no vote. I suppose I personally can be affected? My problem, but still concerned for y'all.)

Can't hear the rocks banging! Do keep up.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 08:41 PM

This was the destruction of the Democratic party. Voters realized that Republicans can provide the same type of fascism as the Democrats, but with lower taxes.

It will be hard to believe in the Democrats again, at least in their social safety net claptrap. Democrats are corporatists, same as Republicans. And they just paid the price for pretending to be otherwise.

It looks as if the race card finally flew out the window in this election. South Carolina elected a black senator. South Carolina, the starting point of the American Civil War and still (according to liberals) a hotbed of racism, elected a black Senator. So much for racism.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 10:39 PM

"So much for racism."

HA! That guy, Tim Scott, is so far right he almost matches Alan West as being the antithesis of black interests! You throw out all these dire predictions about "the destruction of the Democratic party" before you see what mischief the Republicans get into with their new-found majority... and with Jonie Earnst and Ted Cruz and several more trying to get to the right of Genghis Khan and the Ku Klux Klan.

Tell us again in 2 years how 'winning' worked out.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 10:52 PM

You can depend on the American voters: They will always let you down.

Such a thrill living in Dumbfuckistan.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 11:00 PM

I agree about the right wing positions of those people. But South Carolina elected a black senator. Race did not enter into the decision. So much for racism.

Fascism is another matter.

The Democratic party had a chance to reshape itself into a progressive, populist entity but instead chose to go with Barack Obama, a representative of corporate interests. It will be impossible now for the party to regain the populist label.

And the corporate interests will never again allow populism to get a foothold in America. The Koch/Soros oligarchical tyranny will now take away all social services, medical care, pensions and so on. This will be blamed on Obama's supposed incompetence and "gridlock" for the next two years, and then the real nut cutting will begin. The Republican-labeled fascists that you mention will tell you to sit down and shut up or face a SWAT team.

I don't support either party, so I'm curious, why did you Democrats let this happen? Why did you support a corporatist like Obama as he wrecked your party? Was it political correctness? Magical thinking?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 11:43 PM

Guest, you contradict yourself. If people found the Democrats insufficiently socialistic (or, in USspeak "liberal") why would they vote for the Republicans, who are less socialistic or "liberal"?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 01:12 AM

Because 'Guest' is a loonie.

After a bleak night and morning I am again hopeful. Idiocies like that spewing from Guest just dirty the water at a moment - many, many moments- that we need clarity. This country is in deep trouble.

Yes, I am hopeful again, but I also feel like biting. So back off, buddy. Pah. You are no buddy. Back off, buster.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 06:39 AM

Bill, the people of South Carolina elected a BLACK man, no matter how "right wing" he may be, they cannot be RACIST.

That they did elect a black man for his political abilities, is surely to be applauded by all REAL liberals?

Ebbie... stop name calling, the word "loony" has negative connotations, and could be distressing to "THE MUSKETS", who appear to suffer from psychiatric disorder.

GUEST has contributed some interesting post to this thread and deserves better treatment

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 07:06 AM

This too shall pass. In 2016 there are 24 Republican senate seats being contested compared to just 9 for the Democrats. Some of those Rep. seats were gained during the fading tea party fad so they'll be especially vulnerable and factoring in several likely retirements the GOP may be in for just a 2 yr. stint in charge of the upper chamber. If history is any indicator expect Republicans to over reach with their conservative agenda and alienate a good chunk of the electorate, especially the poor and minorities whose voting rights they've desperately (and shamefully) tried to curtail.

Democratic Senate losses were about average since WWII for the party in the White House during a 2nd term midterm election and House losses were below average so the sky ain't falling for the Democrats contrary to what GUEST (who sounds a lot like Goofus with better syntax) thinks.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 07:15 AM

and Bobad that cartoon you linked to was priceless, sad but priceless.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 07:17 AM

"Ebbie, stop name calling."

"THE MUSKETS, who appear to suffer from psychiatric disorder."

Can't even get to the end of a line without making himself look a fool...

Howsabout I offer to pay for a one way air ticket for the nasty little shit? His confused fascism and hatred of equality would find a home in Republican HQ.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,chester
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 07:43 AM

I think that dems were so disapointed in the people they voted for that they did not want to vote democratic again. They did not want to vote for repulicans so they didnt vote at all. There was no waiting line at all where i voted.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 09:38 AM

Ake, dimshit, do the words "Uncle Tom" or "coconut" or "oreo" or "bounty bar" mean anything to you?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 11:17 AM

"Guest Why...
Appreciate your concerns. But your response accomplishes exactly nothing.
Nothing."


I actually found this Guest post interesting and wondered if any of it were true. There are a large number of posts not worthy of more than a glance at the "From". It really is a shame that some people with nothing to say, say so much and mess up what might have been an interesting thread in general. Reminds me of my partner's bro who talks non-stop with nothing to say.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 12:01 PM

"Bill, the people of South Carolina elected a BLACK man, no matter how "right wing" he may be, they cannot be RACIST."

That is one of the silliest things I ever heard! They elected him because he was not a Democrat! Many of them can be dripping racism in their everyday actions and still prefer a black man who votes most of their interests! Ask them if they'd let their daughter marry him....

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 12:44 PM

Silly? No, just thick. Don't forget this is the man who claims to be a member of a political party who in government introduced gay marriage, so surely Akenaton can't be a homophobic bigot?

You just have to follow his logic to see it. It is simple. Flawed of course and borne of ignorance and bigotry, but easy enough to see through.

The little people are never complicated.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 12:44 PM

No sweat. Characteristically, mid-term elections tend to go against the party of the incumbent president. It gives the "out," but now "in" party an opportunity to show the country how good they are at screwing up....

Locally, things went reasonably well where I live (Washington State). Several issues that needed passing got passed. School funding for smaller classrooms and required background checks before purchasing a firearm--plus the good guys getting reelected in most cases. Two Democratic Senators, both women (Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell) and a Dem. representative in my legislative district (Jim McDermott).

The climate and the sea breezes here in the Great Northwest tend to keep people around here bright-eyed and clear-headed....

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 12:53 PM

I don't believe that Bill, and what I said is not "silly", a racist would never vote in such a way....even if it was in his political interests to do so.

I'm disappointed in your attitude. Perhaps you are not as even handed as you like to portray yourself?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:15 PM

Ake, Bill is right.

Southern white racists would vote for a black man if they felt sure he was an "Uncle Tom" and would do what he's told to do.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: olddude
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:37 PM

My take for what it's worth

Meet thenew boss same as tthe old boss

Hope I am wrong

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 05:04 PM

Someone seems cock sure they know how a racist thinks....

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,#
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 07:14 PM

The results came as no surprise and I think most folks knew it would be this way. Obama still has a veto, so as Dan pointed out, Here's the new boss, same as the old boss.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:07 AM

Richard Bridge: "The lunatics have taken over the asylum. I just don't understand how ANYBODY can fall for the idiotic Republican claptrap and obstructionism. It demonstrates such total stupidity."

For what it's worth....the House of Representatives has passed and submitted 386 bills to the Democratic Senate, in which Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, kept them from being voted on, by the Senate...so Obama wouldn't have to deal with them, or even take a vote in the Senate, to submit them to Obama, for him to approve OR veto!
...speaking of 'obstructionism.'

True story.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:35 AM

Source?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,chester
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 07:02 AM

"They elected him because he was not a Democrat! Many of them can be dripping racism in their everyday actions and still prefer a black man who votes most of their interests! Ask them if they'd let their daughter marry him...."

This is a racist statement. It is a baseless projection of racism on ther people. An unfounded accusation. Such statements are what keeps racisim "alive". People who make such statements want to keep racisim "alive". It serves some purpose in their life as if they could not live without someone they can call a racist. Calling someone an "Uncle Tom" is also a racist term used by flaming biggots.
No doubt i will be subject to ritual defamation with ad hominem personal attacks for stating such an obvious truth.

Substitute Republican for Democrat in the statement and see if that is applicable.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 07:29 AM

Tim Scott's election proves that the GOP is a diverse and inclusive party and that racism is dead, even in the deep south. Yeah, right and I've got some ocean front property in Arizona you might be interested in.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 11:49 AM

Couldn't agree more guest chester, these names only keep racism and colour prejudice alive.

I am surprised at Bill and perhaps he should reconsider what he wrote.
I know plenty about racists having fought them often enough; and I know they hate coloured people almost as much as Richard and "Team Musket" hate truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 11:54 AM

I would also say that if the Republicans and Democrats don't stop fighting and hating one another and concentrate their firepower on the real enemy, the future looks bleak.

No corporate capitalist Politian is going to change anything important, whether he be black white green or purple.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 01:03 PM

Chester, get with the program. I wasn't calling anyone an "Uncle Tom," and I don't think in those terms myself. Bill and I were pointing out how a lot of white Southerners look at blacks and why they might vote for a black candidate over a white one who does not share their viewpoint on other political issues.

You are exhibiting a knee-jerk reaction to a term without thinking about the whole context in which the term was used.

By the way, there are thought police out there who object to the term "coloured people" as a racist expression.

And as to personal ad hominem attacks, it is you who are accusing Bill and me of being "racist bigots" when we are anything but!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 01:12 PM

Aided and abetted by the most bigoted smear of scum on Mudcat......

I wondered whether the worm would turn this chester fool into a pin up to swoon over.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,gillymor
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 01:51 PM

Does Chester seem a little Goof(us)y to anybody else around here?

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,chester
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:02 PM

More unfounded accusations. I did not mention any names. I merely pointed out the biggoted and racist remarks. If they are not racist and bigotted, explain how. Or continue to attack me personally which only proves my point.

As i said before, substitute Republican for Democrat and see if the statement has any credibility.
.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:12 PM

Thanks, Don... saved me the trouble of explaining it.

Also Chester, I don't know about you, but I have been in the southern US, combating racism. I have seen first hand how racist **some** people can be.

Ake, I doubt you have seen it... and the 'flavor', I'd imagine is a bit different from the forms it takes in Scotland. Racists came in as many varieties as liberals or Christians or those opposed to homosexual behavior... which is why Don & I say 'some' or 'many'.

Both of you - read up on Alan West to see what kind of Black man gets elected by certain racists.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Janie
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 09:40 PM

Lots of factors involved in the election results. Racism certainly one factor, but not the only one. I am a bit dismayed, among the USA folks, none of whom, I think, are from the south, to see that the racism factor is attributed only to the south. Racism in the south is more overt but no more pervasive or extensive. It is simply more covert than overt in other parts of the country. Look at the rural/urban divide. Easy to assume that divide is about racism also, but I think one would be wrong in assuming that. Regardless of race, rural areas tend to be more conservative than urban areas, at least based on the dictionary definition. I think it likely one would find that rural Black populations are much more likely to be opposed to same sex marriage than are urban Black populations. Just for example.


The only map I have really studied is the North Carolina map, and so far, only the US Senate race. The urban population centers of NC voted for Kay Hagan by a narrow margin. The rural areas voted for Tillis by a slim margin. (pretty close to the same statistics with respect the the marriage constitutional amendment that passed 2 years ago.) Looking at a national map that simply shows which states went red and which went blue, it seems the same holds true. I don't think that means that people who live in urban areas are smarter and people who live in rural areas are dumber. I think it means it is easier (or less difficult and resource intensive) to "get out the vote" in urban areas, even among people with who otherwise feel disenfranchised. Plus, I think people in rural areas in general are devalued, and among the disenfranchised.

Dumbfuck, ignorant hicks, regardless of race, who don't know any better. Eh?

Progressives - as with all things personal or otherwise - what we have the capacity to change is our own thoughts, feelings and behaviors. Rather than blaming others, focus on what each of us can do to be more effective.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 09:44 PM

Don,The numbers vary.....I've heard everything from 275 to 386...you can take your pick, because you'll inveritably want to discredit any single site...according to your political posture..

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 05:00 AM

Bill Bryson tends to write for a UK audience, and his take on his native USA can be quite interesting....

He said there is a huge difference between the north and south. (Very general, very stereotyping..)

In the south, racism is normalised but black and white live next to each other.

In the north, racism is abhorred but black and white live in different districts.

I used to spend about three months a year living in The USA, various places, and to be honest, racism didn't seem any better or worse than over here from a daya to day perspective. The rich v poor was far more evident, and yes, a majority of blacks are poor and the majority of the rich are white. Prison population statistics are telling mind....

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,chester
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 07:25 AM

Thank all for not personally attacking me.
There are racisits. There will probably allways will be racists but i believe it is a generational thing. The younger the generation the less racisim there is amongst them.
My concern is that some people "infect" the younger generation with their racial bias. It "rubs off" from the parents to the child. People are not born racists but they are influenced by their parents and their environment. If people would ignore and "freeze out" the racists, racisim will eventually be reduced to a minimum. However there are people who "feed" off of racisim. They perpetuate it. They are constantly, if inadvertantly, pointing it out as if it is some new crisis we must deal with. This is detrimental to all races. Anyone who practices racisim must recognize it and endeavor to avoid practicing it and avoid imposing their racist views on others.
I was raised amongst a gereration of Jew haters. I recognized the racial bias caused by the atmosphere during their early years before ww2 when even Henry Ford had a newspaper fomenting hatred against Jewish people.
I believe there are people that benefit from bringing up racisim and perpetuating it in order to elevate themselves. This is preventing other people of all races to evolve and rise above being a racist. I do not support these people. I belive they should be ignored and told they are creating more racisim than they are prevnting.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 08:35 AM

Excellent Chester....very well said.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: pdq
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:15 AM

Crazy Chester followed me and he caught me in the bar.

He said, "I'll fix your rack, if you'll take Jack my dog."

I said, "Wait a minute Chester, you know I'm a peaceful man."

He said, "That's alright, Luke my boy, just feed him when you can?"

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:08 PM

I stand corrected....I said it was 386 bills, that the Democratic Senate, under Harry Reid, refused to even look at.....and so I posted a link....and found out, that it wasn't 386 bills that were 'OBSTRUCTED' for Richard Bridge's comment on the Republicans obstruction.....it wasn't 386...it is 367!...So, check it out

...another thing....the ONLY people buying the racist, 'War on women' crap are other 'so-called liberals' consoling each other with misplaced indignation...The voters certainly ain't buying it...

....as I've, again, told you before!
Calling names, and fooling yourselves that the accusations are true, is just bullshit that is making deluded fools out of yourselves.....These elections didn't give a crap about YOUR 'definitions' of 'bigot', 'racist', 'homophobic', anti-women'....none of that crap!..Grow up!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 12:28 AM

Amazing! Misses the point entirely, meanwhile he's so busy running his mouth that he walks right off the end of the dock again.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 01:56 AM

Well Don. as usual you've tried to re-direct the topic....I am responding to:

Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Nov 14 - 12:36 PM:
"The lunatics have taken over the asylum. I just don't understand how ANYBODY can fall for the idiotic Republican claptrap and obstructionism. It demonstrates such total stupidity."

...and YOUR post of asking my source, rebutting Richard's assertion, saying, 'idiotic Republican claptrap and obstructionism'.

I posted, in reply, "For what it's worth....the House of Representatives has passed and submitted 386 bills to the Democratic Senate, in which Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, kept them from being voted on, by the Senate...so Obama wouldn't have to deal with them, or even take a vote in the Senate, to submit them to Obama, for him to approve OR veto!
...speaking of 'obstructionism.'
True story."

I was in error...it wasn't 386 bills, obstructed by Harry Reid, it was 367..and I posted the Yahoo page with several links supporting my claim.

It appears your you, once again, are NOT getting very good 'news' sources!

Oh and BTW, let's not wander too far off the track.

GfS

P.S. Next I'll be expecting your short memory losses, again....

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 02:03 AM

Oooops..typo...

I posted "I was in error...it wasn't 386 bills, obstructed by Harry Reid, it was 367..and I posted the Yahoo page with several links supporting my claim"

It should read, "I was in error...it wasn't 386 bills, obstructed by Harry Reid, it was 387..and I posted the Yahoo page with several links supporting my claim."

Not 367....but 387..

GfS

P.S. Sure is a LOT of 'obstructionism' Richard was referring to... AND I agree with him... "It demonstrates such total stupidity."

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 02:18 AM

Are these bills "sitting on Harry Reid's desk awaiting action"?

"Resolving this claim is murkier.
First, a technical problem. It's an oversimplification to say that these bills are "sitting on Harry Reid's desk." Many have been assigned to committees, where they would need to be approved before being taken up on the floor. While Reid has influence over what committee chairs do, a chair can -- using their own powers -- decide to either fast-track or stall a bill coming over from the House.

"Another complication: In at least some cases, the Senate is working on a bill on the same topic, but without using the House bill as a starting point. "The disposition of a House bill is not particularly relevant to measuring Senate legislative activity," said Steven Smith, political scientist and Senate specialist at Washington University in St. Louis.

"We should also note that in the Senate, one member -- either from the majority or the minority -- can stop a bill in its tracks by threatening to filibuster -- a delay that requires 60 votes to break. Reasonable people can disagree about whether Reid or Senate Republicans are the biggest offenders -- we previously addressed some of those issues -- but the experts we checked with said both parties share at least some of the blame."

And so forth. Including this line:

"...the second category of "show" bills includes dozens of full or partial repeals of the Affordable Care Act passed by the Republican House.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/aug/06/lynn-jenkins/rep-lynn-jenkins-blames-harry-reid-do-nothing-sena/

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,chester
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 11:06 AM

wapo

wsj

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 12:40 PM

Do note that the Wash Post article was to this:

"Jennifer Rubin writes the Right Turn blog for The Post, offering reported opinion from a conservative perspective"

Whether you like or do not like Democrats and/or Harry Reid, it is the case that most House bills Reid did not bring up were so loaded with far-right stuff that they never would have passed in the Senate.
No one seems to mention it when Boehner used similar tactics in the House.

And at least *50* of those bills were attempts to repeal 'Obamacare'... and many others were of similar ilk.

The Republicans have made a game of "obstruct everything" then criticize Obama for 'getting nothing done'. It's transparent to everyone who does not depend on Fox News for their daily transfusion digest of happenings.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 01:36 PM

I think it is fair to say that Reid has been a firewall for Obama. He blocks bills sent up from the House and kills any chance for them being even brought up for debate...that being said, the Republicans aren't much better.
One bill that Reid did NOT suppress, was the budget, that included a waiver, protecting Monsanto from being liable for any damages from GMO's......speaking of pork laden riders....which Bill D seemed to blame only the Republicans...even though that bill was NOT submitted by the GOP..but by Democrats.
Bottom line, as I've posted so many times that my keys are getting worn out from repeating it...the corruption is on BOTH sides!..and neither of the two main parties are representing the PEOPLE, as much as they cater to their 'special interests' banking and corporate buddies.
I have NO party affiliation...so I don't give a rat's ass about pointing fingers across the aisle..because for me, there is NO aisle...just a lot of corruption for special interests, with 'cover stories', to pretend that they're really 'working for us'....

'Right-wing and left-wing are on the same bird'..and 'I'm NOT with the party...I'm with the band!'

..and BTW, my track record on being correct, and calling it, BEFORE it even happens, should be quite evident by now!

But the 'so-called wannabes' only seem to be able to resort to name-calling....especially when they are at wits end to substantiate their facade of political nonsense!!

Just take a look around!

GfS

P.S...and as far as the 'elections' go... the GOP didn't even have a platform....other than a 'repudiation' of the Obama Administration....I guess they were getting impatient to be the next pigs at the trough!

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Musket
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 01:42 PM

Your track record on being correct?

Looks like we are all going to hell on a handcart.

I'm so glad you are a foreigner, you know....

It's a bit like when an American got a honorary doctorate at a ceremony I was at a few years ago. "Be happy that you are in The UK. Bush can never be your head of state."

Your politics seem to be about as altruistic as your attitude to minorities Goofus...

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 02:22 PM

"...as I've posted so many times that my keys are getting worn out from repeating it...the corruption is on BOTH sides!"

And as I have said so many times, there is usually a basic difference in kind between Repub. & Dem. bills. Holding your nose and allowing a bill with stuff you don't like in order to pass something you consider important is not 'corruption'.
Calling everything and everyone in politics 'corrupt' is a cynical/lazy way of not bothering to sort thru to the basic differences.

Does anyone remember to phrase "the loyal opposition"? There used to be a basic system of compromise when work had to get done, but that was before Karl Rove convinced the Republicans that if they were patient and followed his plan, they would eventually stack the deck so that they were always & forever in control! Gerrymander... limit voting of those who vote against you... stack the court system... buy & control as much media as possible... fill Congress with idiots, as long as they vote the **right** way, and tell ANY lie & distortion until you yourself begin to believe it.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 02:39 PM

Yo Vote!


From Andy Borowitz


Exit polls involving election non-participants took place as they left malls, nail salons, gyms, and other locations where no voting occurred on Tuesday.

"The system is broken," said Carol Foyler, thirty-one, a democracy abstainer from Akron, Ohio. "We need to come up with some way that ordinary citizens can make their voices heard and have some impact on who is running things in Washington."

The economy, jobs, and terrorism topped the list of worries that are preying on the minds of the non-voting electorate.

"I find it difficult to sleep at night worrying about the kind of country we are leaving to our children and our children's children," said Mark Gardziak, forty-seven, who spent Election Day shopping for a phone.

While pessimism about the future dominated the comments of the sixty-three per cent of American voters who elected not to exercise their democratic rights on Tuesday, some expressed a glimmer of hope.

"The one way things could get better is if we all get together and throw out the crooked politicians," offered Tess Shardin, thirty-eight, who said she was unlikely to vote in 2016.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,#
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 04:07 PM

People feel they have no voice, no sense of being strong,
Anger comes from everywhere and better days are done,
With nothing left to leave your kids except a world gone wrong,
Ballots quickly turn to bullets, bayonets and bombs.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 06:13 PM

"Chester" is Sawzaw. No surprise there.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 01:44 AM

SRS: "Chester" is Sawzaw. No surprise there."

So what???..I don't see you 'revealing' other 'guests'....hm-mm..maybe you're trying to feed a bias...being as that's ALL the 'so-called liberals' got!...You know, as in bigotry for one man's opinion...and then you go and pretend you don't like 'bigotry'....

...I guess if it is YOUR bigotry, then it's a 'worthy talking point'!

..at least 'Chester' has a point of view worth sharing, or discussing....unlike 'Musket's' meaningless drivel...oh wait a minute, Musket also likes to create and fan biases...I guess that's almost equality...IF, the biases are the 'so-called liberal' tactics of smearing people, who express a good point, that is out of the ideologues reach of understanding!!...............or comprehension!!! ......or brain-lock!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 01:46 AM

How come THIS was deleted????

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Why I didn't vote this time
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 10:44 PM

I reiterate.................

I've been given a choice--Democrat or Republican--and I can't vote for either party. Especially when I know the following three things:

1) Most laws the government passes are illegal. The Supreme Court decided over 200 years ago in Marbury vs. Madison that any law which violates the constitution is void upon its passage. The same goes for court decisions--if they violate the constitution they are void upon their issuance. If I know that, why don't our politicians? Short answer, they do. I can't vote for people who would knowingly violate the constitution in defiance of Marbury vs. Madison.

2) September 11. Six of the ten members of the Kean Commission refused to sign their report after they "investigated" the events of 9/11. The report was a cover-up. And according to law, if you take part in a crime after its commission (like through a cover-up), then you are guilty of that crime. Therefore, the U.S. government is guilty of the 9/11 attacks. And everyone in Washington knows it. How can I vote for people who took part in the 9/11 attacks?

3) Disappearing children. 47,000 children disappeared at the U.S./Mexican border in 2013-2014. Why doesn't the government investigate that? Plenty of media attention is given to the shooting of one young man in Missouri, but the media can't look into the disappearance of 47,000? What happened to the children? Are they working in sweatshops? Sex slaves? Human sacrifices? Again, if I know about this situation, then so do the people in government. And failure to pursue the issue makes them responsible for each individual disappearance.

So instead of voting this time around I'm writing this. I'm telling you, we have a criminal government. Our politicians (all of them) knowingly vote for illegal laws, cover up the crimes of September 11, and refuse to pursue possible human slave traffickers. I can't endorse any of that with a vote, and all I can think to do is publicly condemn the criminals who want me to approve of their actions.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 04:07 AM

BTW, I am not 'GUEST,Why I didn't vote this time'.....but I thought he had a point worth lookin' at....

I voted...some shit got passed, or elected...some didn't...Oh Waaah!!
As you may have suspected, I didn't particularly vote along 'party lines'....one person was running unopposed....I left her blank(she was named in too many reported 'misdeeds'...as in crooked..even in the papers a while back...nope, go find a more reputable person ....

oh well.....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Cthulhu
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 12:40 PM

Speaking of meaningless drivel.....

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 05:57 PM

"I don't see you 'revealing' other 'guests'.."

Many guests post under regular names and don't try to be several persons... and some of the naughty ones no doubt hide their identities in ways that are harder to trace.

That deletion was simply a long repost... the original is still up there.

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 07:07 PM

GUEST,Cthulhu: "Speaking of meaningless drivel....."

Like I said, "the biases are the 'so-called liberal' tactics of smearing people, who express a good point, that is out of the ideologues reach of understanding!!...............or comprehension!!! ......or brain-lock!!!

Join the perception-less!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Elections: Tues. Nov. 4th
From: GUEST,Why I didn't vote this time
Date: 10 Nov 14 - 07:50 PM

My post was deleted because that's what moderators do. They delete whatever upsets the status quo.

Sad state of affairs when arguing AGAINST mass murder, rampant lawlessness, and child kidnapping upsets the status quo.