BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?

Subject: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 01:17 PM

I think sexism, but with all the hoohaw on racism, I'm interested in other opinions.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 01:19 PM

I find the lack of access for the disabled in the UK and Europe in general appalling. Talk about discrimination!

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: frogprince
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 01:41 PM

I find it hard to give a really meaningful answer, Mrrzy. Which would you prefer to scrub out of the carpet, vomit or feces? Sexism is directed against half, or a scosh more than half, of the population. Racism (within a nation)is generally directed against minorities. Both degrade the lives of many more people than those they are directed against. Sexism is much less likely to be literally murderous.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 03:13 PM

good point, frogprince.   even when not murderous genuine racism is likely to have a hate element, whereas sexism exhibits a superior attitude to the opposite gender. goes both ways btw.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: meself
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 03:36 PM

'Sexism is much less likely to be literally murderous.'

Really? I would have thought the opposite.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: GUEST,frogprince at the gallery
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 04:04 PM

Personally, I've never heard any male say "The only good woman is a dead woman". I wish I had never heard the same statement with reference to a racial minority member.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: meself
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 04:29 PM

Maybe it's where we live. Where I live, it seems rare that the local media is not following a local case of a woman having been murdered by a man: woman missing, body found, suspect sought, man arrested, woman missing, body found .... etc. Cases of a member of a racial minority having been murdered by a white person do seem rare, though (no, I'm not going to look up the statistics).

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 04:49 PM

Both are worse.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 05:26 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 06:32 PM

Racism is more prevalent in some aspects of life, such as the criminal justice system. Blacks get stopped by cops for Driving While Black. Women don't usually get stopped for Driving While Female.

Sexism is more prevalent in the workplace. Outside of a handful of dyed-in-the-wool bigots, most employers wouldn't even consider paying a black man less than a white man for doing the same work. But many routinely pay women much less than men.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 06:41 PM

do you think those women were murdered because of gender prejudice, meself ?. I would have thought horribly gone wrong domestics mostly.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:30 PM

My vote goes to racism. Sexism is something that can be fixed- or at least made impractical. Racism comes from a deep place and blankets an entire nation.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:33 PM

Racism.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 10:04 PM

I think that somebody should get the death stats together. I suspect that sexism is more prevalent, but that on a death-per-bigot basis racism is more deadly. But as a result of the prevalence of sexism I would not be surprised if more women in total died (including as a result of so-called "honour killings") as a result of sexism than non-whites as a result of racism. Surely the cliche "If I can't have you nobody will" would not have become a cliche unless a commonplace.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:10 PM

I agree with Richard, though not for the "honor killings" reason. Simply because more women are kidnapped, raped, assaulted, and often murdered by boyfriends or estranged husbands and the news media barely bats an eye. Second class citizens. This is layered over a complex intersection, where low income and minority women are invisible. If murder involves a well-to-do woman, or a woman with a family who are listened to when they speak out, then you hear about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: michaelr
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:28 PM

'Sexism is much less likely to be literally murderous.'

Really? I would have thought the opposite.

Well, one clue is that you don't read a lot about the cops shooting large numbers of unarmed women.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:32 PM

No. And you don't read about all of the women who are murdered by ex boyfriends and husbands. But it happens. All. Of. The. Time.

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 05:56 AM

This article, which appeared in the Irish Times recently, may give a bit of a different perspective to the 'sure, sexism isn't so bad' line:

-I will not tell girls not to walk alone. I will not tell them to be careful-

Subject: RE: BS: Which is worse in US, Sexism or Racism?
From: akenaton
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:27 AM

I seem to remember the phrase "The only good injun....." from the old cowboy films of my youth, the media was indoctrinating us even then.

Of course the "Indians" were shown using barbaric cruelty, murder and rape of white women, the killing of children and the scalping of victims.....which at the time demonised the race.

I am sure these barbarities did happen, but we as children were quite unaware of the political and social implications of white colonisation.