BS: The Ides of Trump

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Mar 17 - 12:42 AM

http://elisabethparker.com/ides-of-trump-postcards/. A smattering of the cards people sent are represented in this blog.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 17 - 11:26 PM

I sent out a handful of them, and re-tweeted some images of postcards the people posted on Twitter. I expect by tomorrow or Monday they'll be getting a lot of mail, though unless the post office says something, Trump will probably not admit to.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Mar 17 - 04:04 PM

Trump - who "love[s] the poorly educated" and the Trumpists ushering in the era Dumbfuckatrumpistan want to be sure that they STAY poorly educated:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/324230-trump-budget-proposes-entirely-eliminating-national-endowment

See also Public Broadcasting - the "enemy of the people".........

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: gillymor
Date: 15 Mar 17 - 09:17 AM

Be(a)ware the Ides of Trump

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Janie
Date: 14 Mar 17 - 02:54 PM

I hosted an Ides of Trump postcard party Sunday - was kinda last minute at the request of a 'resistance' group I belong to.

If noting else, I got to meet some people who live locally I haven't met before.

My understanding the goal is quantity, not quality - so I just winged off one liners and kept it emphatic but polite.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Mar 17 - 10:03 AM

Refresh

Tomorrow's the day. In case you missed it here's Joe's original post:



    THE IDES OF TRUMP

    ON MARCH 15TH, 2017 MAIL THE WHITE HOUSE A POSTCARD THAT PUBLICLY EXPRESSES OUR VOCAL OPPOSITION TO ACTIONS OF THE NEW PRESIDENT..

    We will strive to show the man, the media, and the politicians how vast our numbers are and we will bury the White House post office .

    Each of us — every protester from every march, each Congress calling citizen, every boycotter, volunteer, donor, and petition signer — will write a single postcard and put them all in the mail on the same day, March 15th, 2017.

    -Hank Aaron currently holds the record for fan mail, having received 900,000 pieces in a year. We're setting a new record: over a million pieces in a day.

    So sharpen your wit, unsheathe your writing implements, and write from the heart. All of our issues — DAPL, women's rights, racial discrimination, religious freedom, immigration, economic security, education, the environment, conflicts of interest, the existence of facts — can and should find common cause. That cause is to make it irrefutable that the president's claim of wide support is a farce.

    How to participate:

    1. Write one postcard. Write a dozen! Create your own cards, buy them, share them, it doesn't matter as long as you write #TheIdes or #TheIdesOfTrump on them somewhere.

    2. If possible, take a picture of your cards and post them on social media (tagged with #TheIdesOfTrump or #TheIdes, please). This will help us verify our numbers.

    3. Spread the word! Everyone on Earth can let Washington know their opinion of the President. They can't build a wall high enough to stop the mail.

    4. Then, on March 15th, mail your cards to: The President The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500



    WHEN DO WE MAIL OUR POSTCARDS?
    We ask everyone to mail their postcards on the same day — March 15, 2017. They will arrive in a wave over the next days and weeks.

    WHICH POSTCARD AND/OR MESSAGE SHOULD I USE?
    We leave that up to you. This event is INCLUSIVE. We want everyone — regardless of which issue or issues concerns them most — to be part of this postcard campaign. Some will send pink postcards, others will focus on immigration, or environment, or any number of other issues that are ALL important.

    We invite people to write personal messages, by hand, from the heart. While mass-produced or computer-produced postcards are also welcome, handwritten cards accentuate the number of people behind this campaign.

    Please DO write #TheIdes or #TheIdesOfTrump somewhere on each of your postcards, If you can, take a photograph of it, and post the picture to social media.

    Please DO NOT write or depict anything violent or encouraging of violence. (e.g., maybe we shouldn't mention what happened to Caesar..... -Joe-)

    SHOULDN'T WE PICK ONE ISSUE TO WRITE ABOUT?
    While everyone writing about one cause would certainly send a more concentrated message, the goal of this campaign is to bring people together in opposition, regardless of which cause they feel is most important. All over the world, people are expressing grave concerns about the directions in which this administration is taking America and the planet. We want all of those people to be part of The Ides of Trump.

    WHO'S BEHIND THIS EFFORT?
    Someone had the idea and others stepped up to help, but millions of postcards need to be written by millions of people, or none of it matters.

    WHAT IS THE POSTCARD COST?
    Use one first class mail stamp

    DO I NEED TO INCLUDE A RETURN ADDRESS?
    No. Postcards do not require a return address. We do not recommend including your actual return address.



In other words, if you're thinking of getting a very nice nun mad, think twice....

What will YOU write on your postcard?

SPQR

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 09:35 PM

I plan to send quite a few, keberoxu. I have a drawer full of post cards and a sheet of stamps.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 03:26 PM

so they'll get postcards as well in addition to the emails I regularly send.

Go for it!

Email, most studies have shown, they disregard almost entitely. Actual postal mail is more likely to be noticed. What really gets their attention are telephone calls, but that unfortunately runs into money.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 01:43 PM

I have fond memories of George Dubya's visit to Ireland some time ago - he stayed about thirty mils from here at Dromoland Castle
A courageous young reporter Carol Colemen (a distant relative of the legendary fiddle played, Michael), was given a prepared list of questions she was allowed to ask the Pres. - she threw it away and proceeded to ask the questions she thought important - a truely magic moment to cherish that was debated in the press for some time after - almost as memorable as Thatcher leaving number 10 in tears like a child whose toys had been taken from her.
Trump seems to have learned the lesson from that one
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 01:24 PM

I'm doing it and spreading the word about it. I also like Greg's idea of posting to my Congressman and Senators, which I agree might be more effective, so they'll get postcards as well in addition to the emails I regularly send.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 12:45 PM

anybody actually doing this besides Joe Offer?

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 06:37 AM

No, Acme, I look at all manner of news sources from all parts of the spectrum, though I tend to avoid tabloidism (not necessarily tabloids, but my antennae are a-twitch for axes to grind). Al Jazeera has good, measured reporting but there is obvious bias as to what they regard as the most important issues of the day. So what? That's the same for western-based media too. If a couple are stabbed to death outside a clothing shop by a jealous lover here, it gets acres more coverage for days on end than a car bomb in Kabul that killed 80 people. Is that bias?

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 04:38 AM

"Hypocrisy at it's worst from another of this forum's proven liars."
Can somebody please stop this level of crude insulting before this serial abuser has this thread closed
Donuel has just had his name added to this unpleasant individual's long and growing list of victims.
This is the stuff of the schoolyard and malicious cyber-sites - it has no place on a serious discussion forum.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Teribus
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 02:11 AM

Donuel - 26 Feb 17 - 07:07 PM


"we must protest and show goodness has a powerful voice
whether it is acknowledged or not.

It should be remembered of course that that statement is made on the sole proviso that he [Donuel] gets to decide and dictate to everybody else what "goodness" is.

"newsflash there are more sides than one."

Very true, but what a pity you are simply just not prepared to listen to it - Hypocrisy at it's worst from another of this forum's proven liars.

But two things will come from any attempt to bury the White House in an avalanche of postcards:

1: It might prevent a real appeal to the President of the United States being read and considered

2: It will have no effect on the present incumbent but will do enormous harm to the "Office of the President of the United States of America" - in that Akenaton is perfectly correct.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Mar 17 - 12:11 AM

Steve, I don't read just one news source, do you? I have places I trust to get it right and go there first, and if I think they're missing something, I complain about it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: gnu
Date: 28 Feb 17 - 10:26 PM

I'd just refresh since this is at the bottom of the page but... what the hell? Why not?

Subject: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 05:39 PM

On March 15, 44 BCE, the Senators of Rome let Julius Caesar know how they felt about him. A very nice nun sent me this letter:

THE IDES OF TRUMP

ON MARCH 15TH, 2017 MAIL THE WHITE HOUSE A POSTCARD THAT PUBLICLY EXPRESSES OUR VOCAL OPPOSITION TO ACTIONS OF THE NEW PRESIDENT..

We will strive to show the man, the media, and the politicians how vast our numbers are and we will bury the White House post office .

Each of us — every protester from every march, each Congress calling citizen, every boycotter, volunteer, donor, and petition signer — will write a single postcard and put them all in the mail on the same day, March 15th, 2017.

-Hank Aaron currently holds the record for fan mail, having received 900,000 pieces in a year. We're setting a new record: over a million pieces in a day.

So sharpen your wit, unsheathe your writing implements, and write from the heart. All of our issues — DAPL, women's rights, racial discrimination, religious freedom, immigration, economic security, education, the environment, conflicts of interest, the existence of facts — can and should find common cause. That cause is to make it irrefutable that the president's claim of wide support is a farce.

How to participate:

1. Write one postcard. Write a dozen! Create your own cards, buy them, share them, it doesn't matter as long as you write #TheIdes or #TheIdesOfTrump on them somewhere.

2. If possible, take a picture of your cards and post them on social media (tagged with #TheIdesOfTrump or #TheIdes, please). This will help us verify our numbers.

3. Spread the word! Everyone on Earth can let Washington know their opinion of the President. They can't build a wall high enough to stop the mail.

4. Then, on March 15th, mail your cards to: The President The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500




WHEN DO WE MAIL OUR POSTCARDS?
We ask everyone to mail their postcards on the same day — March 15, 2017. They will arrive in a wave over the next days and weeks.

WHICH POSTCARD AND/OR MESSAGE SHOULD I USE?
We leave that up to you. This event is INCLUSIVE. We want everyone — regardless of which issue or issues concerns them most — to be part of this postcard campaign. Some will send pink postcards, others will focus on immigration, or environment, or any number of other issues that are ALL important.

We invite people to write personal messages, by hand, from the heart. While mass-produced or computer-produced postcards are also welcome, handwritten cards accentuate the number of people behind this campaign.

Please DO write #TheIdes or #TheIdesOfTrump somewhere on each of your postcards, If you can, take a photograph of it, and post the picture to social media.

Please DO NOT write or depict anything violent or encouraging of violence. (e.g., maybe we shouldn't mention what happened to Caesar..... -Joe-)

SHOULDN'T WE PICK ONE ISSUE TO WRITE ABOUT?
While everyone writing about one cause would certainly send a more concentrated message, the goal of this campaign is to bring people together in opposition, regardless of which cause they feel is most important. All over the world, people are expressing grave concerns about the directions in which this administration is taking America and the planet. We want all of those people to be part of The Ides of Trump.

WHO'S BEHIND THIS EFFORT?
Someone had the idea and others stepped up to help, but millions of postcards need to be written by millions of people, or none of it matters.

WHAT IS THE POSTCARD COST?
Use one first class mail stamp

DO I NEED TO INCLUDE A RETURN ADDRESS?
No. Postcards do not require a return address. We do not recommend including your actual return address.

In other words, if you're thinking of getting a very nice nun mad, think twice....

What will YOU write on your postcard?

SPQR

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 17 - 12:32 PM

Timing is everything


If all the land is already under 100 feet of water all the broken dams in the world won't matter.


Job one is already done

Make great hate again - done

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Feb 17 - 11:46 AM

Me thinks 'tis first chinks of light dawning on the Ides:

Former President George W. Bush says "we all need answers"

And when Dubya can beat Obama to the punch, you know the dyke is leaking! I predict it ain'ta gonna hold forever.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 17 - 06:00 AM

Trump is sniffing out a golden shower pf leaks. Some he orders, some he doesn't. If you hear every one is leaking you're in Washington.
Urine leakland.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Feb 17 - 09:16 AM

Approach, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Feb 17 - 09:15 AM

Aside from the fact that it isn't just the press, let's look at how the press (and broadcast media) "twist" the news:

They decide which news to give us and which news to withhold.
They decide whether to have the news splattered all over the front page or to stick it on the bottom of page 17.
They decide how to comment on the news, if at all.
They decide how the news should be edited for consumption.
They decide to what extent the news should be sensationalised.
They decide on what kind of eye-catching headline to employ in order to draw you in.
The more scurrilous of them decide to embed comment and bias in articles (remember "enemies of the people?" "Gotcha!" And "Up yours, Galtieri?")

The press and broadcast media are intrinsically biased and selective. We get the press we deserve. Unless people treat the press with the scepticism it fully deserves and approaches it critically, they'll carry on getting away with lots. Almost four million people read the Mail every day. I have to conclude that they read it uncritically. They wouldn't buy it otherwise. I rest my case.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 27 Feb 17 - 08:45 AM

Quite right donuel " more sides than one ".      " when the press is banned.."   Are newspapers closed down ?   Are they being told what stories to report or how to do so ? Or is it just that some of the press is not welcome because they might twist the news !?    Not too sure it's the best course of action, but the protests seem exaggerated.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 10:32 PM

One of mine will read "Let's see those tax returns, Mr. President."

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 08:40 PM

Back to the postcards - I'm seeing people talking about printing their own with memes on cardstock. I'll probably simply send some of the regular ones I have here, of national park beauty spots (requesting that the parks not become drill sites for gas and oil).

Don't forget to take photos and post them online and tag them with #TheIdes or #TheIdesOfTrump . Twitter and Instagram are easiest to search (the settings on facebook are so variable that you probably won't see as many results).

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 07:37 PM

WHAT ARE WE AFRAID OF ?????????????????

No one here mentions it by the words, arrest, imprisonment, murder.
Instead we say fascist or ideological words.

We all know many countries have inherited dictatorial rule.
Germany in the 30's Syria Iraq Egypt Chile Japan Iran the list is endless throughout history.

America was supposed to be different. People may say It Can't Happen Here. But it can.
When protest is called a betrayal, when the press is banned when you become a revolutionary to stand up for the Construction and Trump attacks the protests as domestic terrorists who do not obey the president...

Will Ake Pete and Bruce celebrate my arrest imprisonment and murder?
Will they accept yours? Will they believe we had it coming?
I will not answer for them.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 07:07 PM

I thought about it more and Greg is right.

The culture of protest does not overcome society.
It does not overcome a society of racism hate , xenophobia, genetically different people or the billionaire class and their wannabes.
Four score years of right wing conditioning on the media of radio,TV,church and internet with a trillion dollar price tag does not evaporate quickly.

But we must protest and show goodness has a powerful voice
whether it is acknowledged or not.

surprising things happen.

Pete, newsflash there are more sides than one.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 06:27 PM

Pete, its not "different opinions" and "alternative views"- its "alternative facts" (i.e. outright lies) and bullshhit and xenophobia and racism and un-Constitutional actions & decrees.

And you're quite confused, or possibly simply ignorant of the actual situation in the U.S. Educate yourself.

Until then, time to say good-night.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 06:15 PM

It is certainly evident that one large section here has no tolerance for different opinions , and expresses its own opinions with venom and foul abuse. Funny thing is they want to censure alternative views......which seems to be the very thing they are themselves protesting !

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 06:03 PM

Fer Christ's sake ignore the troll. Don't talk to him. Address the issues, don't use his name, don't answer his drivel directly. It will wind him up and he won't have the same pleasure. He has the luxury of a conduit for his voice, leave him to metaphorically wank into the wind. We don't have to watch.

All he wants is to do is stir. Don't give him the spurtle.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 01:58 PM

I can't believe how this thread has been derailed.   Bloody ridiculous.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 01:41 PM

"I try to give reasoned arguments without abusing any member as Fascist, Racist, Bigot"
Because you have no grounds to with anybody Ake
If the cap fits....
Haven't you just propoese that Trum should have the right to censor the press - or was that my imagination!!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 01:15 PM

So you've figured out the definition of "demagogue." Big deal. You're still doing exactly what I described.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 01:00 PM

By God, you have some balls to call me mentally ill on this forum Acme, just look around you at the other specimens. The ranters, the stalkers and people who move off topic to get threads closed.
I try to give reasoned arguments without abusing any member as Fascist, Racist, Bigot.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 10:15 AM

Ake, you're off the rails in trying to defend the piece of shit who is rambling around the White House at night, watching TV and tweeting, it's pathetic. Seriously. You need to back off and just go do something else. Joe started a thread that suggests a democratic act to show our disdain for the man and his puppet masters who are in power right now. Yet you suggest postcards are treasonous? REALLY?

I have concerns about your health at this point. Is this the only way for you to get attention, by continuing to start fights with others? You know this was a trick the old mudcat troll used. He used the nasty politics of the BNP and EDL to stir up others and give himself plenty of angry targets to pick on. You're doing the same with the Alt right component of the GOP.

You stalk members and try to keep those fights going. You need to get counselling: you don't contribute here, it's a crutch instead of medical help.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Hrothgar
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 06:16 AM

Don't use more than 140 characters.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 05:53 AM

Another reason he's backed out of the Correspondents' Dinner is that he sees it as "establishment" and will be able to say by not showing up that he's not "establishment." A billionaire who's made his money by being a thoroughgoing member of the snout-in-trough end of capitalism wants us to think he's not "establishment." I should coco!

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 05:29 AM

By the way Ake
"do you actually think the Media act in your interests?"
The media serves its own interests, which range from selling newspapers to supplying information to the public - and all the bits between
It is varied in its value, but without it would to allow it to be controlled by a demagogue is unthinkable - that is what is beginning to happen at the hands of the Trump regime.
This apparently suits your agenda
What do you propose as an alternative?
I will be very surprised if you respond to this - I suppose it doesn't come under your take on 'freedom of information'
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 04:55 AM

"There is a word for trying to subvert a democratically elected government,"
Trumps entourage was not elected Democratically (Russin intervention is not democratic) and his behaviour in power is getting less and less democratic by the minute.
Its latest stunt is to stifle information by only allowing those who will present his behaviour favourably into press conferences.
Suppression of information is a basic tool of all Fascist regimes - control and destruction of State institutions such as Justice, security and law and order are others.
He has had that in his sights for some time now.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 03:23 AM

It just seems such an undemocratic idea Acme, I suppose the end game is to motivate people to make the country ungovernable?
Imagine if UK residents tried to swamp the government because they lost the EU referendum......There is a word for trying to subvert a democratically elected government, I suppose you know that word, you and others on the left have used it often enough in other circumstances.   There is another word beginning with H and ending with y which applies to those who do not practice what they preach.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 07:09 PM

Trump, or his gang, have responded to protests and legal challenges. It's all on Twitter, followed by the staff "restatment" of what he really meant to say. The restatement is actually appearing when he had to back off of whatever lame-brained thing he was complaining about and someone else explains it because Trump will never apologize for anything. Ever. So get those postcards ready, I and I will be commenting on the lack of press access on mine.

(You saw that he backed out of the Correspondent's Dinner - after his recent behavior even he can see that it won't turn out well.)

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 06:35 PM

Thirded.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 06:21 PM

Yep. Seconded.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 05:37 PM

Get lost. You have nothing to contribute, you're here to troll.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: akenaton
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 05:04 PM

This thread really amuses me, do you actually think the Media act in your interests?

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stu
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 11:01 AM

"Let's hope the disease doesn't spread to his supporters in Britain and elsewhere"

Actually, it spread from here to there. Alex Salmond banned the Telegraph from one of his pressers years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 10:55 AM

I'm in. Canuckistan has 1/10th the population of the USA but I dare say, there will be a fair few postcards from the Great White Frozen. I hope they pour in from all over the world.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 10:37 AM

Don't be silly, Jim. This was a skirmish, the larger battle looms.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 08:07 AM

It seems that the Sister's letter is too little too late - the Trump Storekeepers have now gone viral by banning numerous media outlets, including CNN, BBC and The New York Times from the White House Press Conference
Free speech now seems a thing of the past in the U.S. - I don't think petitions and protests are going to get a look-in
Let's hope the disease doesn't spread to his supporters in Britain and elsewhere
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 12:33 AM

Tough times don't last;
Tough people do.

I'm in.

Subject: RE: BS: The Ides of Trump
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 08:54 PM

Work and pray live on hay
They'll be pie in the sky when you die.
That's a lie

You are tough. I'm just saying you may not be as skeptical as you claim.