BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Greg F.
Date: 21 Mar 17 - 03:35 PM

he is crudely bad at when he has chosen to do.

Actually, he's been crudely bad at everything he's chosen to do his entire life - multiple bankruptcies, stiffing creditors, running ponzi schemes and fake universities & on & on.....

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Mar 17 - 01:01 PM

Rep. Adam Schiff's opening statements during the open hearing of the House Intelligence Committee's investigation of the Russian interference in our elections

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Mar 17 - 12:16 PM

With the current rejectsion of his accusations that British security haved into the election campaign, it gets more and more difficulty to understand why Trum has involved himself in politics - he is crudely bad at when he has chosen to do.
Maybe we're misjudging him - perhaps he looks on it as a business venture and is using the kudos his position brings to further his business ends.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 17 - 05:22 AM

ABC (Alex-Jones Brietbart Conspiracies)

Just in...

Trump Tweet; Obama Saran-Wrapped White House toilets! "sad, disgusting and McCarthyesque".

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Ake is either having a go at you all or is more hypnotized than he realized by the Alt Right Alt-Sites.

Just like the BS artist Trump, it is a little bit of both.

If Ake is addicted to the Alt right news sites, he will be unable to not access them for 4o days. If that is the case he is lost to his own opinion. His mind is not his own any longer. Sympathize.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 09:02 PM

SCHIFF:
Let me give you a short preview of what I expect you'll be asked by our members. Whether the Russian active measures campaign began as nothing more than an attempt to gather intelligence or was always intended to be more than that, we do not know and is one of the questions we hope to answer. But we do know this; the months of July and August 2016 appear to have been pivotal.

It was at this time the Russians began using the information they had stolen to help Donald Trump and harm Hillary Clinton. And so the question is, why? What was happening in July, August of last year and were U.S. persons involved? Here are some of the matters drawn from public sources alone since that is all we can discuss in this setting that concern us and we believe should concern all Americans.

In early July, Carter Page, someone candidate Trump identified as one of his national security advisors, travels to Moscow on a trip approved by the Trump campaign. While in Moscow, he gives a speech critical of the United States and other western countries for what he believes is a hypocritical focus on democratization and efforts to fight corruption.

According to Christopher Steele, a British — a former British intelligence officer, who is reportedly held in high regard by U.S. intelligence, Russian sources tell him that Page has also had a secret meeting with Igor Sechin, CEO of the Russian gas giant, Rosneft. Sechin is reported to be a former KGB agent and close friend of Putin's.

According to Steele's Russian sources, Page is offered brokerage fees by such an on a deal involving a 19 percent share of the company. According to Reuters, the sale of a 19.5 percent share of Rosneft later takes place with unknown purchasers and unknown brokerage fees. Also, according to Steele's Russian sources, the campaign has offered documents damaging to Hillary Clinton which the Russians would publish through an outlet that gives them deniability like WikiLeaks.

The hacked documents would be in exchange for a Trump administration policy that de-emphasizes Russia's invasion of Ukraine and instead focuses on criticizing NATO countries for not paying their fair share. Policies which even as recently as the President's meeting last week with Angela Merkel have now presently come to pass. In the middle of July, Paul Manafort, the — the Trump campaign manager and someone who was a long on the payroll of Pro Russian- Ukrainian interests attends the Russian — the Republican Party Convention. Carter Page, back from Moscow, also attends the convention. According to Steele, it was Manafort who chose Page to serve as a go-between for the Trump campaign and Russian interests.

Ambassador Kislyak, who presides over a Russian Embassy in which diplomatic personnel would later be expelled as likely spies, also attends the Republican Party Convention and meets with Carter Page, and additional Trump advisors J.D. Gordon and Walid Phares. It was J.D. Gordon who approved Page's trip to Moscow.

Ambassador Kislyac also meets with Trump national campaign chair, National Security Campaign Chair and now attorney general, Jeff Sessions. Sessions would later deny meeting with Russian officials during his Senate confirmation hearing. Just prior to the convention, the Republican Party platform is changed, removing a section that supports the provision of lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine, an action that would be contrary to Russian interests.

Manafort categorically denies involvement by the Trump campaign and altering the platform, but the Republican Party delegate who offered the language in support of providing defensive weapons to Ukraine states it was removed at the insistence of the Trump campaign. Later, J.D. Gordon admits opposing the inclusion of the provision of the time it was being debated and prior to its being removed.

Later in July and after the convention, the first stolen emails detrimental to Hillary Clinton appear on WikiLeaks. A hacker who goes by the moniker, Guccifer 2.0, claims responsibility for hacking the DNC and giving the documents to WikiLeaks. A leading private cyber security firms including Crowdstrike, Mandiant and ThreatConnect review the evidence of the hack and conclude with high certainty that it was the work of APT 28 and APT 29 who are known to be Russian intelligence services.

The U.S. intelligence committee also later confirms that the documents were in fact stolen by Russian intelligence and Guccifer 2.0 acted as a front. Also in late July, candidate Trump praises WikiLeaks, says he loves them and openly appeals to the Russians to hack his opponents emails telling them that they will be richly rewarded by the press.

On August 8th, Roger Stone, a long time Trump political advisor and self-proclaimed political dirty trickster, boasts in his speech that he has communicated with Assange and that more documents would be coming, including an October surprise. In the middle of August, he also communicates with the Russian cut out Guccifer 2.0 and authors a Breitbart piece denying Guccifer's links to Russian intelligence.

Then later, in August, Stone does something truly remarkable. When he predicts that John Podesta's personal emails will soon be published, trust me he says, it will soon be Podesta's time in the barrel, #crookedHillary. In the weeks that follow, Stone shows remarkable prescience. I have total confidence that WikiLeaks and my hero, Julian Assange will educate the American people soon, he says, #LockHerUp. Payload coming, he predicts and two days later it does.

WikiLeaks releases its first batch of Podesta emails. The release of John Podesta's emails would then continue on a daily basis, up until the election. On Election Day in November, Donald Trump wins. Donald Trump appoints one of his high-profile surrogates, Michael Flynn, to be his national security advisor. Michael Flynn has been paid by the Kremlin's propaganda outfit RT in the past, as well as another Russian entity.

In December, Michael Flynn has a secret conversation with Ambassador Kislyak, about sanctions imposed by President Obama on Russia over attacking designed to help the Trump campaign. Michael Flynn lies about the secret conversation. The vice president unknowingly then assures the country that no — no such conversation ever happened. The president is informed that Flynn has lied and Pence has misled the country. The president does nothing.

Two weeks later, the press reveals that Flynn has lied and the president is forced to fire Mr. Flynn. The president then praises the man who lied, Mr. Flynn, and castigates the press for exposing the lie.

Now, is it possible that the removal of the Ukraine provision from the GOP platform was a coincidence? Is it a coincidence that Jeff Sessions failed to tell the Senate about his meetings with a Russian ambassador, not only at the convention, but a more private meeting in his office and at a time when the U.S. election was under attack by the Russians?

Is it a coincidence that Michael Flynn would lie about a conversation he had with the same Russian Ambassador Kislyak, about the most pressing issue facing both countries at the time they spoke, the U.S. imposition of sanctions over Russian hacking of our election designed to help Donald Trump? Is it a coincidence that the Russian gas company, Rosneft, sold a 19 percent share after former British intelligence officer Steele was told by Russian sources that Carter Page was offered fees on a deal of just that size?

Is it a coincidence that Steele's Russian sources also affirmed that Russian had stolen documents hurtful to Secretary Clinton that it would utilize in exchange for Pro Russian policies that would later come to pass? Is it a coincidence that Roger Stone predicted that John Podesta would be a victim of a Russian hack and have his private emails published and did so even before Mr. Podesta himself, was fully aware that his private emails would be exposed?

Is it possible that all of these events and reports are completely unrelated and nothing more than an entirely unhappy coincidence? Yes, it is possible. But it is also possible, maybe more than possible, that they are not coincidental, not disconnected and not unrelated and that the Russians use the same techniques to corrupt U.S. persons that they employed in Europe and elsewhere. We simply don't know, not yet. And we owe it to the country to find out.


COMEY:
As you know, our practice is not to confirm the existence of ongoing investigations, especially those investigations that involve classified matters, but in unusual circumstances where it is in the public interest, it may be appropriate to do so as Justice Department policies recognize. This is one of those circumstances.

I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. As with any counterintelligence investigation, this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.

Because it is an open ongoing investigation and is classified, I cannot say more about what we are doing and whose conduct we are examining. At the request of congressional leaders, we have taken the extraordinary step in coordination with the Department of Justice of briefing this Congress' leaders, including the leaders of this committee, in a classified setting in detail about the investigation but I can't go into those details here. I know that is extremely frustrating to some folks. I hope you and the American people can understand. The FBI is very careful in how we handle information about our cases and about the people we are investigating.

We are also very careful about the way we handle information that may be of interest to our foreign adversaries. Both of those interests are at issue in a counterintelligence investigation. Please don't draw any conclusions from the fact that I may not be able to comment on certain topics. I know speculating is part of human nature, but it really isn't fair to draw conclusions simply because I say that I can't comment.



Long story short;

Whats up?
Can't say

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 05:29 PM

How Ake gets it (if one reads this whole thread) is he goes back to October. My guess that this thread was started because Ake didn't notice the date either, or maybe didn't care.

Whatever.

There's too much smoke here for there to be no fire. I'd predict though, that this will involve some individuals falling on their swords in order to protect Trump. I hope not, but that's what I see happening.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 05:16 PM

Comey said he can't reveal the findings of an uncompleted investigation, so we won't get definitive answers....

Didn't seem to bother him when he was screwing Hillary tho, did it, Joe??

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: DMcG
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 05:11 PM

It was a very odd time to pick to start this thread, just hours before the matter was to be before the committee. I'd be interested in hearing why ake decided not to wait a few hours.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 05:00 PM

Comey said he can't reveal the findings of an uncompleted investigation, so we won't get definitive answers from the FBI yet.
Makes one wonder how Ake (and Trump) get such definitive information....
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 01:29 PM

Ake's just channelling his hero Hump.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 10:46 AM

"I have been authorized by the DoJ to confirm that the FBI.. is investigating the Russian government's attempts to interfere in the 2016 election... that includes any links between the Trump campaign... this will also include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed."- James Comey at 10:34 A.M. this morning in The House Intelligence Panel.

It appears that the only "fake news" revealed in this thread was provided by the OP in his first sentence.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 10:01 AM

Just Ake being Ake. Don't try to change his mind with facts.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Stu
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 09:51 AM

Let's see what Comey says today.

Subject: RE: BS: President Trump/Russia link (FBI)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 09:44 AM

Comey Expected to Confirm if FBI is Investigating Trump and Russia

Subject: RE: BS: No Donal-John/ Russia link (FBI)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 09:40 AM

So out of touch with CURRENT events. (Trump controlling the "failing" NYT, and the fact that the "news" is old, outdated, and wrong.)

I also find it ironic that the propensity toward cutesy names, mostly used to ridicule people around here, means that not even a Trump lover like Ake can stand calling him by his title and name.

Not even him...

Subject: RE: BS: No Donal-John/ Russia link (FBI)
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 09:11 AM

Since than the BBC has run a programme showing Trum meeting with Russian officials and also dealing with Trump's business dealings with the Russian Mafia - including employing a Mafia assassin on the books of one of his companies.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: No Donal-John/ Russia link (FBI)
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 08:42 AM

Note the date of the article that you did not provide a link for, Oct.31.2016.

plus "From the New York Times(Trump controlled rag)" WTF is that?

Better clean up your act if your going to go to bat for a schlump like Donal-Jerk.

Subject: BS: No Donal-John/ Russia link (FBI)
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Mar 17 - 08:17 AM

Well my goodness, it really was all fake news...surprise surprise!

From the New York Times(Trump controlled rag)

WASHINGTON — For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.

Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.