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ADD: Canticle of St Francis + Make Me a Channel

mactheturk 03 Jul 00 - 09:16 AM
Big Mick 03 Jul 00 - 09:24 AM
Liz the Squeak 03 Jul 00 - 09:24 AM
mactheturk 03 Jul 00 - 09:54 AM
GUEST,Peter T. 03 Jul 00 - 02:44 PM
Joe Offer 03 Jul 00 - 07:02 PM
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Liz the Squeak 03 Jul 00 - 07:27 PM
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Subject: Song of Saint Francis??
From: mactheturk
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:16 AM

Does anyone know a song version for the Prayer of Saint Francis? It may be known by the title "Make Me A Channel of Your Peace". I will post the words here in the hopes that someone knows a source for the melody or an alternative lyric.

Make me an instrument of your peace
Where there is hatred let me sow love,
Where there is injury let me sow pardon,
Where there is doubt, faith,
Where there is despair, hope,
Where there is darkness, light,
And where there is sadness, joy.

O Lord, grant that I may not seek so much
to be consoled as to console,
To be understood as to understand,
To be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive,
It is in forgiving that we are forgiven
And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.


Thanks for the help, Mac


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:24 AM

Sure there is a melody, Mac. We sing it at Mass. Give me an email addy and I will scan the score and send it to you.

All the best,

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:24 AM

There are several; there is a hymn called the Canticle of the Sun, which is the one where he goes on about brother sun and sister moon (or burning sun and silver moon for the hymnbooks) which is 'All creatures of our God and King'.

Then there is the Make me a channel of your peace, which can be found in most modern hymn books like Mission Praise, Celebration Hymnal or Songs and Hymns of Fellowship.

It was paraphrased and set to music in the 70's and quite quickly gained popularity.

Then there is another version of the canticle of the Sun which is partly in italian - Laudate te, o mi Signore. That is in Celebration Hymnal as well.

Most of those books should be available both sides of the pond but you may have difficulty with Mission Praise, as it is getting a bit old now..... not unlike myself!

If you have trouble, I can do the lyrics but not the tune. If you have a private address I can scan it and send it to you. Let me know through Personnal Messages if you want.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: mactheturk
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:54 AM

Mick an Liz,

Please send to..turkthemac at aol.com

By the way, I just read a book called "MAKE ME AN INSTRUMENT OF YOUR PEACE, Living in the Spirit of Saint Francis, by Kent Nerburn.
The publisher is HarperSanFrancisco.
This is a wonderful book!!

Thanks again, Mac


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: GUEST,Peter T.
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 02:44 PM

The Canticle of the Sun is real St. Francis. The "Make me an instrument, etc." is a later composition, back attributed. Just to be pedantic.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: Lyr Add: MAKE ME A CHANNEL OF YOUR PEACE
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 07:02 PM

Make Me A Channel Of Your Peace
Words by Sebastian Temple

Make me a channel of your peace.
Where there is hatred let me bring your love;
Where there is injury your pardon, Lord;
And where there's doubt true faith in you.

Refrain:
Oh, Master grant that I may never seek
So much to be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love with all my soul.

Make me a channel of your peace.
Where there's despair in life let me bring hope;
Where there is darkness, only light;
And where there's sadness, ever joy.

Refrain

Make me a channel of your peace.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
In giving to all men that we receive;
And in dying that we're born to eternal life.

Refrain

© Copyright 1967 OCP Publications
5536 NE Hassalo, Portland, Oregon 97213, USA.


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Subject: Lyr Add: MAKE ME A CHANNEL OF YOUR PEACE
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 07:17 PM

I found the lyrics above at a site called weddingguid.co.uk. The lyrics above are the way it was sung as the funeral of Princess Diana, with the "O Master grany that I may never seek..." used as a refrain after every verse. Other than at the one funeral, I've heard the "O Master" sung as a third verse, a fourth higher than the rest of the song and with the tune slightly different.
-Joe Offer-
    Make Me A Channel Of Your Peace
    (Sebastian Temple)

    Make me a channel of your peace.
    Where there is hatred let me bring your love;
    Where there is injury your pardon, Lord;
    And where there's doubt true faith in you.

    Make me a channel of your peace.
    Where there's despair in life let me bring hope;
    Where there is darkness, only light;
    And where there's sadness, ever joy.
    Oh, Master grant that I may never seek
    So much to be consoled as to console;
    To be understood as to understand;
    To be loved as to love with all my soul.
    Make me a channel of your peace.
    It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
    In giving to all men that we receive;
    And in dying that we're born to eternal life.

    © Copyright 1967 OCP Publications
    5536 NE Hassalo, Portland, Oregon 97213, USA.


Click here for a page with a MIDI, or here (click) for just the MIDI.


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 07:27 PM

It is the prayer of St Francis - the canticle of the sun is different and is where he calls everything brother or sister, from which the title of the film 'Brother Sun and Sister Moon' comes. This was the film of St Francis' life and was very well done. Sebastian just paraphrased a well documented prayer.

LTS


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Subject: Lyr Add: IL CANTICO DEL SOLE / CANTICLE OF THE SUN
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 07:51 PM

Here's the "Canticle of the Sun.
-Joe Offer-

Il Cantico del Sole (Cantico della Creature)

di Francesco di Assisi

Assisi Codex

Altissimu onnipotente bon signore.
tue so le laude la gloria e l onore et onne benedictione.
Ad te solo altissimo se konfano.
et nullu homo ene dignu te mentouare.

Laudato sie mi signore cum tucte le tue creature
spetialmente messor lo frate sole.
lo quale iorno et allumini per loi.
Et ellu e bellu e radiante cum grande splendore.
de te altissimo porta significatione.

Laudato si mi signore per sora luna e le stelle.
in celu l ai formate et pretiose et belle.

Laudato si mi signore per frate uento
et per aere et nubilo et sereno et onne tempo.
per lo quale a le tue creature dai sustentamento.

Laudato si mi signore per sor acqua.
la quale e multo utile et humile et pretiosa.
et casta.

Laudato si mi signore per per frate focu.
per lo quale ennallumini la nocte.
ed ello e bello et iucundo et robusto et forte.

Laudato si mi signore per sora nostra matre terra.
la quale ne sustenta et gouerna.
et produce diuersi fructi con coloriti fiore et herba.

Laudato si mi signore per quelli ke perdonano per lo tue amore.
et sostengo infirmitate et tribulatione.
beati quelli ke l sosterranno in pace.
ka da te altissimo sirano incoronati.

Laudato si mi signore per sora nostra morte corporale.
da la quale nulla homo uiuente po skappare.
guai a cquelli ke morrano ne le peccata mortali.
beati quelli ke trouara ne le tue sanctissime uoluntati
ka la morte secunda nol farra male.

Laudate et benedicete mi signore
et rengratiate et seruiteli cum grande humilitate.

 

Michele Faloci Pulignani (ed.). Il Cantico del Sole di San Francesco di Assisi. Foligno: Tipografia di Pieter Sgariglia, 1888, pp. 10-11.


    Most High, all-powerful, good Lord,
    Yours are the praises, the glory, the honor, and all blessing.
    To You alone, Most High, do they belong,
    and no man is worthy to mention Your name.
    Praised be You, my Lord, with all your creatures,
    especially Sir Brother Sun,
    Who is the day and through whom You give us light.
    And he is beautiful and radiant with great splendor;
    and bears a likeness of You, Most high One.
    Praised be You, my Lord, through Sister Moon and the stars, in heaven
    You formed them clear and precious and beautiful.
    Praised be you, my Lord, through Brother Wind,
    and through the air, cloudy and serene, and every kind of weather
    through which You give sustenance to Your creatures.
    Praised be You, my Lord, through Sister Water,
    which is very useful and humble and precious and chaste.
    Praised be You, my Lord, through Brother Fire,
    through whom You light the night
    and he is beautiful and playful and robust and strong.
    Praised be You, my Lord, through our Sister Mother Earth,
    who sustains and governs us,
    and who produces varied fruits with colored flowers and herbs.

    Praised be You, my Lord, through those who give pardon for
    Your love
    and bear infirmity and tribulation.
    Blessed are those who endure in peace
    for by You, Most High, they shall be crowned.

    Praised be You, my Lord, through our Sister Bodily Death,
    from whom no living man can escape.
    Woe to those who die in mortal sin.
    Blessed are those whom death will find in Your most holy will,
    for the second death shall do them no harm.
    Praise and bless my Lord and give Him thanks
    and serve Him with great humility.

    -- Francis of Assisi
     




Click here for a different translation and some interesting comments:

The Canticle of the Sun was written by St. Francis of Assisi (1182-1226). Having received a good education in his youth, Francis was well-acquainted with classical literature and, when he turned to the religious life, fell in with Augustine's ideas that nature and the material world were gifts from God and should be valued and appreciated. This view quickly gained popularity amongst those living in the material world outside monastic walls even though it went against the teachings of other important religious figures, such as Tertullian and Bernard of Clairvaux.

The Canticle of the Sun

Most high, omnipotent, good Lord,

Praise, glory and honour and benediction all, are Thine.
To Thee alone do they belong, most High,
And there is no man fit to mention Thee.
Praise be to Thee, my Lord, with all Thy creatures,
Especially to my worshipful brother sun,
The which lights up the day, and through him dost Thou brightness give;
And beautiful is he and radiant with splendor great;
Of Thee, most High, signification gives.
Praised be my Lord, for sister moon and for the stars,
In heaven Thou has formed them clear and precious and fair.
Praised be my Lord for brother wind
And for the air and clouds and fair and every kind of weather,
By the which Thou givest to Thy creatures nourishment.
Praised be my Lord for sister water,
The which is greatly helpful and humble and precious and pure.
Praised be my Lord for brother fire,
By the which Thou lightest up the dark.
And fair is he and gay and mighty and strong.
Praised be my Lord for our sister, mother earth,
The which sustains and keeps us
And brings forth diverse fruits with grass and flowers bright.
Praised be my Lord for those who for Thy love forgive
And weakness bear tribulation.
Blessed those who shall in peace endure,
For by Thee, most High, shall they be crowned.
Praised be my Lord for our sister, the bodily death,
From the which no living man can flee.
Woe to them who die in mortal sin;
Blessed those who shall find themselves in Thy most holy will,
For the second death shall do them no ill.
Praise ye and bless ye my Lord, and give Him thanks,
And be subject unto Him with great humility.


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Callie
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 07:57 PM

Hi folks

I used to love both of these hymns at school and haven't thought of them for many years. Canticle of the Sun - wasn't that sung by Cat Stevens in the film? (again, haven't seen it since I was a little girl). Thanks for your postings.

I wanted to choose the name 'Francis' as a confirmation name but our coordinator wouldn't let me because it's a boy's name. I did get to go to the town in Italy where Francis set up his first monastery (and the name momentarily aludes me). There is, hanging on the wall, a painting of Franics which is considered to be a contemporary portrait.

Peace

Callie


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Mbo
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:03 PM

The song "Brother Sun, Sister Moon" from the movie, was written by Donovan.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 02:38 AM

Do you mean San Damiano? Or is that the later one he built by hand. It is the one where the cross spoke to him.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Callie
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 02:48 AM

No - it has a shorter name, and not "San" anything. I'll look it up in my travel journal after work. I saw the stone floor where he slept. Mind you, they could say that about any small town North of Rome and who would there be to dispute it?!


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Callie
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 04:41 AM

...sometime later, and can't find THAT particular journal, but I think it was in the town of Lecce (pronounced Letch - eh).


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Bagpuss
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 08:58 AM

I see some people have already posted the words to make me a channel of your peace, but I just wanted to say it has a rather nice chord progression at the start (the way we play it anyway): D, Dmaj7, D6, Dmaj7.

There is also another hymn based on these words, called Lord Make me a means of your Peace:

Lord make me a means of your peace

Where there is hatred sown, let me sow your love,

Where theres injury lord, let forgiveness be my sword,

Lord make me a means of your peace.

Unfortunately I cant find my copy of it, so I cant give you the melody, or chords or the rest of the verses. And I dont have a mic on my computer, so I cant even make a file of me singing it!!!

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: GUEST,Peter T.
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 11:30 AM

nice to see the canticle -- environmentalist prayer no.1!!!

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 11:57 AM

Mmmmmmmm.....

~S~


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: mactheturk
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 02:24 PM

Thank you for your response. I would welcome any additional info regarding this topic, Francis of Assisi or your thoughts regarding this song/prayer...

Mac


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Peter T.
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 03:07 PM

The canticle is considered to be the earliest piece of Italian vernacular poetry. It has an interesting history because Francis (whose father spent a lot of time in France, hence the name) was obsessed with troubadour music, and he made up a beloved called Lady Poverty, who he sang to. He somehow hybridized the life of the wandering troubadour with the wandering monk (sort of a Woody Guthrie prototype, Woody not being a saint or anything). In the lives he and his followers are always singing and carrying on. If you get a chance to read the original lives (not the Little Flowers, which is a later bowdlerization), do. They are among the most moving documents in history: they breathe the clear air of a new thing in the early Italian sunshine. When I went to Assisi, the most extraordinary thing there was a pair of Francis' work clothes, hung up on the wall -- they looked like farmer's overalls!!!

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: Lyr Add: PEACE PRAYER (John B Foley SJ)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 05:33 PM

The song the Bagpuss posted is a good one. There's a MIDI here (click), not that I'm thrilled with the arrangement.
Peace Prayer
© 1976, John B. Foley, S.J.

Lord make me a means of your peace.
Where there's hatred grown, let me sow your love,
Where there's injury, Lord, let forgiveness be my sword
Lord make me a means of your peace.

Lord make me a means of your peace.
Where there's doubt and fear, let me sow your faith.
In this world's despair, give me hope in you to share.
Lord make me a means of your peace.

Lord make me a means of your peace.
When there's sadness here, let me sow your joy.
When the darkness nears, may your light dispel our fears.
Lord make me a means of your peace.

Lord, grant me to seek and to share:
Less to be consoled than to help console.
Less be understood than to understand your good.
Lord make me a means of your peace.

Lord, grant me to seek and to share:
To receive love less than to give love free,
Just to give in thee, just receiving from your tree.
Lord make me a means of your peace.

Lord, grant me to seek and to share:
To forgive in thee, you've forgiven me;
For to die in thee, is eternal life to me.
Lord make me a means of your peace.


I think I like the Sebastian Temple "Channel of your peace" rendition better, but this one is also pretty good. I think "The Prayer of St. Francis" is something that lends itself very well to musical arrangements. The 23rd Psalm, of course, is another one. Can't recall hearing a musical version of "Canticle of the Sun." I've seen 'em in hymnals, but never heard it performed.
I'll take that back - Marty Haugen has a rather nice "Canticle of the Sun":
The heavens are telling the glory of God,
And all creation is shouting for joy,
Come dance in the forest, come play in the field,
And sing, sing to the glory of the Lord.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Chicky
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 06:48 PM

So no-one has posted the words to "Brother Son Sister Moon" yet. I remember singing it at school, but I was very young. Any takers?!

Callie (babysitting for Chicky)


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Subject: Lyr Add: BROTHER SUN SISTER MOON (Donovan)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 06:56 PM

Brother Sun, Sister Moon
(words & music by Donovan)

Brother Sun, and Sister Moon
I seldom see you,
Seldom hear your tune
Preoccupied with selfish misery

Brother Wind, and Sister Air
Open my eyes to visions pure and fair
So I may see the glory around me.

I am God's creature
Of him I am part
I feel his love
Awakening my heart.

Brother Sun, Sister Moon
I now do see you
I can hear your tune
So much in love with all that I survey.


©1973, Famous Music Corporation

JRO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDxpmV27p8


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Chicky
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 11:45 PM

Thanks Joe. I can scarcely remember the tune, but if I let the words run around in the hard drive of my brain, I'm sure I'll recall them.

many thanks

Callie


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Subject: Lyr Add: CANTICLE OF THE SUN
From: Marion
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 10:09 PM

I'll be so bold as to post lyrics to a song I cowrote with St. Francis. This is the first song I wrote so I have great affection for it, though I must admit it isn't very singable: the word/note coordination is a little forced, and the song just keeps going on and on. But I am proud of how much I was able to incorporate of the original version.

Canticle of the Sun

Through Sun my brother, praised be you my Lord
He is our day and our hope through the night
In splendour, radiance, beauty, and majesty
Portrays to us the One in whom is all light.

Through Moon my sister, praised be you my Lord
Until the morning may she her vigil keep
Through Stars my sisters, bright, fair, and ancient
The children of the One in whom is all sleep.

bridge:
To the most high Lord, the all-powerful, the good one
Belongs all the praise of the earth and above
Alleluia! No mortal lips can say
The name of the One in whom is all love.

Through Wind, my brother, praised be you my Lord
In calm, in storm, in nature's every face
Through Air, my brother, all things living
Are cherished by the One in whom is all grace.

Through Water, my sister, praised be you my Lord
Humble and useful in purity sweet
Through Fire, my brother, strong and playful
The good gift of the One in whom is all heat.

Through Earth, my sister, praised be you my Lord
Our home and provider of fruit and seed and wood
Sustains and governs us, shelters and mothers us
Beloved of the One in whom is all good.

Bridge:
Through all my brothers who for the love of you
Forgive and endure though their sufferings increase
Through all my sisters whose mercy and humility
Are blessed by the One in whom is all peace.

Through all your creatures, praised be you my Lord
Through all things living, and through my sister Death
Though none escape her, blessed are they she finds doing
The will of the One in whom is all breath.


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Callie
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 10:18 PM

Thanks Marion!

The name of the town where the contemporary portrait of St Francis is displayed is Labro.

Callie


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 06:33 PM

Joe Offer linked to this thread in the thread on Catholic Funerals and Danny Boy. In reading the lyrics to "Make Me a Channel of Your Peace" or The Song of St. Francis as it was noted in our mimeographed hymnal in the early 70s, I was reminded of how much children love that song when they hear it.

I remember first hearing it when I was living in a cottage on the edge of some woods in a town where my father had been posted as a NYS Trooper (police to those of you in the UK). That would put me at about age 7 and the year 1971. I had my first guitar and it was a song I tried to play but didn't quite manage. By age 10 I was playing it regularly at Folk Mass in the back row of guitarists with the other learners and youngsters. By age 14, I was playing it often while leading the Music Ministry for Children's Mass at a local Catholic School.

In the other thread I mentioned that I still hear this song at funerals for Policemen and Firemen. It adds something hopeful to those services and comments on their life's work.


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Subject: RE: Song/Prayer of Saint Francis & Canticle of the Sun
From: Alley
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 09:14 AM

What a wonderful song. Does anyone have the guitar chords. Also, when I click on links, I get a "page not found" screen. Any suggestions? Many thanks.

Alley


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Subject: RE: Song/Prayer of Saint Francis & Canticle of the Sun
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 11:49 AM

If an intellectual is somebody who can hear the William Tell Overture without thinking of the Lone Ranger, what do you call somebody who can read the Prayer of St Francis and not think of Mrs Thatcher?


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Subject: RE: Song/Prayer of Saint Francis & Canticle of the
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 04:35 PM

Hmmmm. I dunno, Jack - an American?
-Joe, who doesn't get the joke-
(but it's ok)


Alley, the oft-maligned Rise Up Singing songbook has these chords:

first two verses:
D - - - / - - A - / - - - - / - DA D -

O Master...
G - D - / A - D - / G - D - / E - A -

Last verse like the first two.

The slashes separate lines, spaces separate measures - so you have one measure with two chords. If there's a dash, repeat the chord from the previous measure.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Song/Prayer of Saint Francis & Canticle of the Sun
From: Alley
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 06:44 PM

Thanks for the chords, Joe. I really appreciate it. Have a great day!

         Alley


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Subject: RE: Song/Prayer of Saint Francis & Canticle of the Sun
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 07:16 PM

Joe's answer is on the money.

Thatcher quoted the Prayer of St Francis as her programme at her inauguration in 1979. It was pretty obvious to everybody what she really meant by it, and the gesture was remembered by British connoisseurs of sick and twisted political rhetoric for long after she'd quit.


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Subject: RE: Song of Saint Francis??
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 10:22 PM

Does anyone have any suggestions for the chords to the beautifull song "Brother,Son,Sister,Moon? please.
Also there was another terrific song in the movie of that name i saw wayback, that started something like
    Birds are singing sweet and low through the trees that gently grow,
    soft and gentle breezes blow on this lovely day,
    i wish i could be always, life seems lovely on such a day ....
If anyone has the lyrics/chords to this song i would be eternally gratefull.....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song of Saint Francis / Make Me a Channel
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 11:29 PM

the song "Brother Son Sister Moon was sung by Donovan in the Franco Zaffereli film of the same name.i forgot to mention, cheers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song of Saint Francis / Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 15 Feb 08 - 07:16 PM

I used to sing in the choir at my corner Catholic church. One day our leader remarked to me that the composer of 'Make Me a Channel of Your Peace' had composed it for meditative use by a small community. He had no idea that it would become a modern religious standard.


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Subject: chord request"Brother,Son, Sister,Moon" by Donovan
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 12:11 AM

This song was never released at the time of releasing the Franko Zaffereli film of Brother,Son,Sister,Moon back around 1975. This song appears in the Catholic hymn book in Australia but can't find the chords anywhere. Anyone help ? It is such a beautifull song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song of Saint Francis / Make Me a Channel
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 02:47 AM

Dilly daly - give us the whole song if you can, or at least a few phrases. There are a number of songs with this title.
I have several resources that might have it, but I need more information.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song of Saint Francis / Make Me a Channel
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:32 AM

Brother,Son,Sister,Moon,I now do see you I


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Song of Saint Francis / Make Me a Channel
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 12:36 AM

Joe Offer,
          sorry,the words to the song are in your memo of 4/7/2000 above.
    thanks, Dily


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Subject: Chords: Brother Sun, Sister Moon
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Mar 08 - 02:56 AM

Ah, now I know what you're talking about, dilly dally! It was in the first fakebook I looked in Hal Leonard's The Book (1994)


Eb   Fm7 Gm7 Eb   Ab Bb7 Eb
Brother Sun, and Sister Moon
Cm Bb Fm Gm
I seldom see you,
Fm7    Bb7       Eb   Cm
Seldom hear your tune
    Eb Fm Gm      Ab      Bb7 Eb
Preoccupied with selfish misery


Brother Wind, and Sister Air
Open my eyes to visions pure and fair
So I may see the glory around me.

Ab          Gm
I am God's creature
    Ab Bb7   Eb
Of him I am part
Cm Cm7 Fm7 Gm
I feel his love
Fm          Bb7sus Bb7
Awakening my heart.


There you have it. Sure is a lot more complicated than any chords I ever learned to play, but I'm not much of a guitarist. It sure seems like there should be an easier arrangement, since the tune is quite simple. You can watch a very nice YouTube video here (click). Sheet music is here (click).

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 14 Mar 08 - 08:12 PM

Joe Offer,
         thanks, that'sd brilliant.Looks like I've a fair challenge to learn to play these chords.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 04 Sep 09 - 12:25 AM

Thanks Joe.Have only just gotv Broadband and have gone to your "youtube" link.Fantastic !!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Sep 09 - 11:05 AM

I'm not completely sure, but I think those chords could each be dropped a half-step and they would go along with a melody in the key of D. They would be easy chords.

Eb --> D, etc.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 04 Sep 09 - 10:31 PM

Here's the URL for a dingus to make which shows you which chords change to which.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/moneychords/keyconverter.html

Keep one in your purse or pocket at all times.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Chan
From: Weasel
Date: 05 Sep 09 - 04:42 AM

Not the same song, but possibly of interest to those interested in "St. Francis" music:

There is a musical called "Francis" with music by Raymond Smith and text and lyrics by David Walker, Jan Krampf and Gareth Ashmore. A CD exists.

Cheers,

Weasel


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Il Cantico del Sole (Cantico della Cr
From: GUEST,Suzy
Date: 09 Jul 10 - 11:13 PM

Does anyone have the lyrics to a modern Italian version of The Canticle of the Sun? The original is in Umbrian dialect from circa 1200.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 02:39 AM

Here is (I think) a rendering into modern Italian of most of the text that Joe Offer posted above, at 03 Jul 00 - 07:51 PM. I found this in several old books (by using Google Books), and I inserted line breaks so that it would correspond line by line. However, this is shorter than the text Joe posted. I don't know why, but all the copies of the Italian text that I found broke off at the same point.

This was really just a search and copy and paste job for me; I really don't understand Italian, although I can see the correspondence between homo and uomo, etc. Beware of typos.


Altissimo, onnipotente, buono Signore,—
tue son le laudi, la gloria, l'onore — ed ogni benedizione —
A te solo si confanno
e nullo uomo è degno di nominar te.

Laudato sia Dio mio Signore — con tutte le creature —
specialmente messer lo frate sole —
il quale giorna ed allumina nui per lui, —
ed ello è bello — e radiante per grande splendore,
e di te, Signore, — porta ogni significanza.

Laudato sia, mio Signore, per suor luna e per le stelle, —
quali in cielo hai formate chiare e belle.

Laudato sia, mio Signore, per frate vento —
e per aere e nuvolo e sereno e ogni tempo —
per le quali dai a tutte creature sostentamento.

Laudato sia, mio Signore, per suor acqua, —
la quale è molto utile e laudabile e preziosa
e casta.

Laudato sia mio Signore per frale foco,
per lo quale tu allumini la notte;
ed elio è bello e giocondo e robustissimo e forte.

Laudato sia mio Signore per nostra madre terra,
la quale ne sostenta e governa,
e produce diverse frutta, e coloriti fiori ed erbe.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: dilly daly of Adelaide
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 01:35 AM

re my post of 7/1/08 The song "The lovely day" by Donovan from the film 'Brother,Son,Sister,Moon' the song and chord details are now available on Chordie for anyone interested.
      It's a beautifull song-just like it is in the garden today on this beautifull Adelaide autumn day.
             dily


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST,Rory
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 03:37 AM

"Urnaigh Naomh Francis"
(Prayer Of St. Francis)


Sung by Gillebride MacMillan
Album: Thogainn Ort Fonn / I'd Sing You a Song (2006)

Composed by Ishabel T. MacDonald 2006.
A Scottish Gaelic translation of the Hymn of St Francis of Assisi,
made at the request of Fr Colin MacInnes, the parish priest in Northbay, Barra, at the time.



A Thighearna, dèan mise nam theachdaire sìth;
Fuath biodh as m' aonais, biodh gaol na mo chridh';
Far an tachair an ciùrradh, biodh mathanas saor;
Is far am bi teagamh, biodh creideamh is gaol;
Far faighear eu-dòchas, biodh dòchas nas fheàrr;
Far faighear an duibhre, biodh soillse nan gràs;
An àite bhi brònach, biodh sòlas is àgh;
'S biodh Tighearna na glòrach an còmhnaidh nar pàirt.

A Mhaighstir Dhiadhaidh, O deònaich nad ghràdh
Nach iarr mi bhith socrach 's an-shocair aig càch;
Nach seall mi mo thuigs' ach bhith tuigseach mi fhìn
Nach iarr mi gaol chàich ach gun gràdhaich mi Sibh;
Oir 's ann ann an tabhartas gheibh sinn gun dìth,
'S mu thairgeas sinn mathanas, mathar dhuinn fhìn,
'S cha bhàs dhuinn a th' ann ged a stampar an ùir
Ach aiseirigh ghlòrmhor gu beò-bhith as ùr.


"Prayer Of St. Francis"

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace;
Where there is hatred, let me bring your love;
Where there is injury, pardon and be free;
Where there is doubt, there is faith and love;
Where there is despair, there is better hope;
Where there is darkness, be the light of grace;
Instead of being sad, be joyous and happy;
And may the glory of the Lord always be with us.

Divine Master, O grant in thy love
That I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
To not seek to be understood but be understanding myself;
To not seek the love of others but to love You;
For it is in giving that we receive without wanting,
And if we offer pardoning, pardoned are ourselves,
And it will not die for us even if the earth is trampled
But a glorious resurrection to new life.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST,Rory
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:07 AM

Prayer of Saint Francis 
(or Peace Prayer, or Simple Prayer for Peace, or Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace)

A widely known Christian prayer for peace. 
Often associated with the Italian Saint Francis of Assisi (c.?1182 – 1226), but entirely absent from his writings, the prayer in its present form has not been traced back further than 1912.

Its first known occurrence was in French, in a small spiritual magazine called La Clochette (The Little Bell), published in December 1912 by a Catholic Church organization in Paris named La Ligue de la Sainte-Messe (The League of the Holy Mass). The author's name was not given, although it may have been the founding editor of La Ligue, Father Esther Bouquerel (1855–1923).

Christian Renoux, a history professor at the University of Orléans, published in French in 2001 a book-length study of the prayer and its origins, clearing up much of the confusion that had accumulated previously. The Franciscan journal Frate Francesco and the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano published articles in Italian summarizing the book's findings, and Renoux published an online abstract in English at The Franciscan Archive.


Original title: Belle prière à faire pendant la Messe (Beautiful prayer to be made during Mass)
First published in: La Clochette
Country: France
Language: French
Publisher: La Ligue de la Sainte-Messe
(ed. Father Esther Bouquerel)
Publication date: December 1912


French original:

Seigneur, faites de moi un instrument de votre paix.
Là où il y a de la haine, que je mette l'amour.
Là où il y a l'offense, que je mette le pardon.
Là où il y a la discorde, que je mette l'union.
Là où il y a l'erreur, que je mette la vérité.
Là où il y a le doute, que je mette la foi.
Là où il y a le désespoir, que je mette l'espérance.
Là où il y a les ténèbres, que je mette votre lumière.
Là où il y a la tristesse, que je mette la joie.
Ô Maître, que je ne cherche pas tant
à être consolé qu'à consoler,
à être compris qu'à comprendre,
à être aimé qu'à aimer,
car c'est en donnant qu'on reçoit,
c'est en s'oubliant qu'on trouve,
c'est en pardonnant qu'on est pardonné,
c'est en mourant qu'on ressuscite à l'éternelle vie.


English translation:

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me bring love.
Where there is offence, let me bring pardon.
Where there is discord, let me bring union.
Where there is error, let me bring truth.
Where there is doubt, let me bring faith.
Where there is despair, let me bring hope.
Where there is darkness, let me bring your light.
Where there is sadness, let me bring joy.
O Master, let me not seek as much
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love,
for it is in giving that one receives,
it is in self-forgetting that one finds,
it is in pardoning that one is pardoned,
it is in dying that one is raised to eternal life.

.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST,Rory
Date: 20 Nov 20 - 05:15 AM

Prayer of Saint Francis

Mistaken attribution (c.1927) to 13th-century Saint Francis

Around 1918, Franciscan Father Étienne Benoît reprinted the "Prayer for Peace" in French, without attribution, on the back of a mass-produced holy card depicting his Order's founder, the inspirational peacemaker from the Crusades era, Saint Francis of Assisi. The prayer was circulating in the United States by January 1927, when its first known English version (slightly abridged from the 1912 French original) appeared in the Quaker magazine Friends' Intelligencer, under the misattributed and misspelled title "A prayer of St. Francis of Assissi". The saint's namesake American archbishop and military vicar Francis Spellman distributed millions of copies of the "Prayer of St. Francis" during World War II, and the next year it was read into the Congressional Record by Senator Albert W. Hawkes. As a friar later summarized the relationship between the prayer and St. Francis: "One can safely say that although he is not the author, it resembles him and would not have displeased him.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Feb 23 - 01:14 PM

in 1987 one of the first hymns were make me a channel of your peace which was first written in 1967. when i went to the school assemblies this was one of the hymns i remember singing when i was 7 and 8 years old. now being 42 i revue songs and still play the piano and sing i think that it dust me good if i talk to my friends from these days wood that know that the words we new from that day was only written in 1967 only 20 years later the roil scool for the blind love this song so much. on the mudcat i could not believe how many folk know this song from joe.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Feb 23 - 02:10 PM

Make Me A Channel Of Your Peace was a kids' favourite at our (Catholic) school assemblies in the early-mid '70s in London's East End, and I "sang" it as lustily as anyone in those days in order to get my class to join in. As Joe will attest, my sentiments have altered ever so slightly since those times... ;-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 12 Feb 23 - 06:54 PM

Jack Campin's comment:
Joe's answer is on the money.
Thatcher quoted the Prayer of St Francis as her programme at her inauguration in 1979. It was pretty obvious to everybody what she really meant by it, and the gesture was remembered by British connoisseurs of sick and twisted political rhetoric for long after she'd quit.

tells us more about his politics than it does about Margaret Thatcher.

I would assume that she meant what she said, and it was a heartfelt request for reconciliation.

Unfortunately 'the left' in Britain have to have their say on any quotes by Tory ministers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Canticle of St Francis/Make Me a Channel
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Feb 23 - 08:23 PM

Take it downstairs, Nigel, and I'll give you a fight...


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Subject: RE: ADD: Canticle of St Francis + Make Me a Channel
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 19 Feb 23 - 06:15 PM

Various recorings of CANTICLE OF THE SUN on YouTube     https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=CANTICLE+OF+THE+SUN


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Subject: RE: ADD: Canticle of St Francis + Make Me a Channel
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 19 Feb 23 - 06:27 PM

BUT Here, Wikipedia: Prayer of Saint Francis,casts doubt on the authorship of the poem by St Francis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_of_Saint_Francis


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