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Subject: what is this monkey song? From: GUEST,sonya Date: 07 Jul 00 - 05:25 PM my mother keeps singing a song about monkeys. has anyone here ever heard it? are there any tapes or cds with it that i can buy somewhere. i'd like to get it as present for her fortieth birthday. the lyrics go something like: here we come, walking down the street, get funniest looks from everyone we meet, hey hey we are monkeys and people say we just monkey atound, but we're too busy singing, to put anybody down. thank you When you start a thread at Mudcat, please try to pick a title that specifically describes what you're looking for. Generic thread titles like this one cause a lot of confusion, and people often follow up and make it more confusing by adding requests for other songs (like this one). For best results, please follow these guidelines:
Even though the title of this thread is a problem for us, we'll do our best to help you find what you're looking for. Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Morticia Date: 07 Jul 00 - 05:29 PM well, it's the theme song from a t.v. show called The Monkees which was about a band of the same name ,circa late sixties, early seventies I think........no idea where you'd get a copy now though.....I do remember Davey Jones as being quite cute though :) |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Wesley S Date: 07 Jul 00 - 05:30 PM Sonya - If you're not joking turn on your TV and watch it until a rerun of "The Monkees" comes on and you'll figure it out. They were a rock and roll band that was formed for this show and later went on to record several albums. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,sonya Date: 07 Jul 00 - 05:39 PM thank you. i didn't know it was from tv. are these reruns on cable? we don't have cable. is it a good show? thank you |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Noreen Date: 07 Jul 00 - 06:40 PM This must be a joke..... a rock and roll band??!! :o) --Noreen |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Yo Date: 07 Jul 00 - 06:59 PM How old are you Sonya? This must be way before your time, not? Yo! |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Jul 00 - 07:07 PM Davy Jones was the Brit and was in a very long running soap called Coronation Street, and very cute..... hot flash there, oooohh!) Mike Nesmith was the serious one in a knitted cap, his mum invented white-out (Tippex, Snopake, whatever brand name). He went on to have a solo hit with 'Travel to Rio'. Peter Tork was the goofy blonde one that no-one really liked, and the fourth was Mickey Dolenz; he was the only one who was a musician beforehand. He's the one with a face like a happy monkey, and is now stinking rich (!) after making a career out of being Mickey Dolenz of the Monkees.....
Here we come,
Hey, hey, we're the Monkees, people say we monkey around, There is a lot more, but I'm too knackered to type it all out. Just go into any record store and ask for 'The Best of the Monkees' - they did some merde chaude stuff, like 'Daydream Believer', 'Last train to Clarkesville' and 'Valerie'. LTS who isn't really that sad, no..... |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jon Freeman Date: 07 Jul 00 - 07:26 PM The Monkees home page is http://www.flexquarters.com/monkees.htm Jon (Who didn't like the show but enjoyed some of the songs) |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 07 Jul 00 - 07:33 PM Oh Jon, now that really IS scary!! LTS |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,sonya Date: 07 Jul 00 - 10:56 PM i'm 17 and just because i didn't know an old tv show is no reason for noreen to make comments about me being a joke. i came to mudcat because my teacher told me it was a place to learn about music from nice people. i've been looking at some of the other topics and some of you don't seem like very nice people. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Naemanson Date: 07 Jul 00 - 11:03 PM Hi Sonya, We are people. That means we come across as good, bad, and indifferent (And some of us are ugly too!). It is difficult to interpret tone in typed incomplete messages but you'll get better over time. Hang in there and keep reading. Focus on the fun answers and ignore those that are not fun. And if you want a laugh, watch what they do to me for writing this. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jon Freeman Date: 07 Jul 00 - 11:09 PM sonya, you are misreading Noreen's comments which were in fact questioning WesleyS classifiny the Monkees as rock and roll and in a very friendly and joking manner. Also, sonya although some of us, myself included do have our moments, stick around there are some really great people here and I can't think of anybody who would make fun of you for your question - stick around, I promise you, you will make some good friends from all over the world. Be warned though, beware of Liz the Squeak - she thinks me liking some of the Monkees songs is scarey - but all I can say is I met her once - then I saw her face ;-) Jon |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 07 Jul 00 - 11:22 PM Hi Sonya! I don't think that Noreen meant that you were a joke, just thought the question might be; it's difficult for us old(er) people to imagine somebody not having heard of the Monkees. They were very popular when I was your age, and that makes me feel terribly old, especially when I think how long ago it really was! Here's a direct link to the words you're looking for, courtesy of Jon Freeman: Monkees Theme Do come back here any time you want to ask a question, or look something up; it's true that we're not all especially nice people, but we do try to be. Malcolm |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,BUCKYDDA@AOL.COM Date: 07 Jul 00 - 11:59 PM PARTS OF THE SONG I AM TRYING TO GET THE FULL WORDS TO ARE: WEEP THEN NO LONGER, NOW LIFT YOUR VOICE AND HEAR OUR SINGING, RED ARMY HERO'S DEATH ARE WAVING, ALL THEIR PEOPLE FROM OPPRESSION SAVING. I transferred this request to its own thread. Go here (click) for this discussion. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: DonMeixner Date: 08 Jul 00 - 12:06 AM Actually Peter and Mike where the only musicians originally. Find any First National Band albums and be treated to Mike nesmith as a very talented song writer. Don |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: BK Date: 08 Jul 00 - 12:12 AM talk abt thread creep?? Hang in there, Sonya. We really are OK folks & this really is the best spot on the web. If it heats up a little at times, it'll cool off again. Cheers, BK; an old folkie who wasn't a Monkeys fan.. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jon Freeman Date: 08 Jul 00 - 12:20 AM Don, according to http://melhi.freeyellow.com/faqs.html, all except Davey Jones had experience as working musicians prior to the formation of the Monkees. It also notes that they prefferd to use session musicians rather than thier own abilities for the recordings. Jon (who until today, believed that none of them could play an instrument) |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,Filbert Date: 08 Jul 00 - 12:42 AM That reminds me of a bet Phil Coulter is supposed to have made with Mickey Most. Coulter contended (apparently) that a group with absolutely no talent could reach the Number One spot. And repeatedly do so. Mickey, it is claimed, disagreed to the sum of £10,000. (A 'small' sum; a 'token' bet) Enter 'The Bay City Rollers'. They created quite an enduring fashion craze in the process! Anyone remember them?? |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jim the Bart Date: 08 Jul 00 - 01:08 AM Couple things I found out somewhere: Mickey Dolenz wasn't a musician prior to the Monkees. he starred in a TV show in the US in the early 60's called "Circus Boy". I have never seen it on cable. Mike was and is a big talent as a singer and songwriter. He also did some of the first music videos. His video "Elephant Parts" won awards and led to the formation of MTV. Peter Tork used to play banjo in Greenwich Village and auditioned for the Monkees with his firend Stephen Stills, who flunked the audition because he had bad teeth. Davey Jones had starred in musical theatre in England as a child. The boys wrote some of the Monkee's songs, but most of the early hits, including the Monkees theme, were written by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart. Among the other songwriters who wrote for the show were Neil Diamond and Michael Martin Murphy. Although a lot of the instrumental tracks were recorded by session musicians, the band did sing. After hearing the criticism that they weren't a "real" band, they worked up the songs (Mike on guitar, Peter on Bass and keyboards, Mickey on drums, Davey on tamborine, keys and groovy moves) and toured. Although they caught a lot of flack for being "put together" and not playing their own instruments, this wasn't all that uncommon in the early days of rock. The Supremes were put together by Barry Gordy at Motown. And a lot of the Beach Boys tracks were done by studio pros. Whether you consider them legit or not, there was a lot of craft in their music and the shows were a lot of fun. OK. I'm officially out of the closet. I'm a musical garbologist. I may not be big on the origins of the traditional music that is the meat and potatoes here at the Mudcat, I know a whole lot about pop cultural crapola. And I like it all. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,Filbert Date: 08 Jul 00 - 01:16 AM Aaaahh, The Monkees The first musical McDonalds |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jon Freeman Date: 08 Jul 00 - 01:29 AM Filbert, I'll let you into a little secret only known to those of us who have been involved in the Hearme sessions. Alison has been known to sing Shang A Lang! Bartholomew, I can't make my own mind up on legit. I can accept that they did have talent but then there is the pretence that they were doing what others were doing, but then again many others have done that and who doesn't use session musicians or double track or whatever? ... Jon |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,Filbert Date: 08 Jul 00 - 01:33 AM I always thought that Craig's voice was a little high. Interesting development!!!! |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 08 Jul 00 - 02:05 AM I heard a rumor recently, that the first MONKEYS show had to be cancelled at the last second because the bass player was so nervous that he , well... lost his cookies right there on stage before the first song. This being a teenybopper screamfest, it soon gave way to being a teenybopper uhm... well,... pukefest, and so everyone agreed at that point that it might be best if all present might just as well go home... And we thought that "THE WAVE" was only for sports fans!? |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Jul 00 - 02:20 AM Bartholemew - you are even sadder than Jon and I! Incidentally Jon, when was the first time ever you saw my face? Because if it was the picture Micca sent round, those are not mine, I borrowed them for the evening...... I remember the Bay City Rollers, because I seemed to be the only girl over 8 years old in the county that thought they were talentless, ugly and pathetic. An opinion that hasn't really changed with time..... I will concede that they were very popular. I wanted to be greasy biker chick at the time, so I was into Quo, Snake and Purple.... To return to the Monkees - did any of their shows have a plot other than one guy falls hopelessly in love with an unobtainable girl? Did any of them actually ever get the girl?? And did they ever have the rent money??? LTS |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jon Freeman Date: 08 Jul 00 - 02:44 AM LTS, The first time ever I saw your face... Then I saw her face is part of the lyrics to I'm a Believer - one of the Monkees hits, apparently written by Neil Diamond. It can be found at http://www.flexquarters.com/monkees/docs/lyrics/believer.txt Jon (hoping I might see your face one day - maybe at Llanfiar's do this Autumn) |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Jul 00 - 02:51 AM Jon - It isn't the fact that you like the Monkees songs, some of them are great and even border on the greasy biker chick thing, but it was the fact that YOU KNEW ABOUT THE WEBSITE..... that is what's difficult! I confess to owning a copy of the Best of the Monkees - I love it and played it to death, but at least I KNOW that I'm weird! LTS |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jon Freeman Date: 08 Jul 00 - 03:00 AM Ah Liz, I won't deny being wierd and in fact I prefer that to being "normal" but I had no knowledge of the website. Once in a while, I read a thread here and do a search on the internet (usually because of unanswered lyric/ tune requests) and post something that I think may be relavent or of interest back to the thread. So in this instance I can say "your wierder than I am - na na na na na nah" ;-) Jon |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Mike Regenstreif Date: 08 Jul 00 - 10:38 AM As some may know, in the 1970s and 1980s, I ran a folk venue in Montreal called The Golem. Around 1984, Odetta's agent called and told me that Peter Tork wanted to come and play there. "What the hell," I thought, and booked him. Peter packed the place. He sang and was an adequate banjo, guitar and piano player. His repertoire was a mix of Monkees songs, his own songs and a few traditional folk songs. I remember him doing a nice version of "I Truly Understand." Peter ended up playing The Golem several more times over a period of about three years. When he played, he would usually spend from three days to a week in town and (except once) stay at my apartment. He's a very down-to-earth guy and was fun to hang out with. Later, there were the Monkees reunion tours and we lost touch. Mike Regenstreif |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Noreen Date: 08 Jul 00 - 02:37 PM Returning belatedly to this thread...... Hi Sonya, Indeed I was not referring to you personally as a joke, I would not dream of doing such a thing. The series of postings as I read them struck me at the time as rather bizzare and I tried to make a (obviously feeble) joke. I'm sorry that it sounded different to you. As others have said, it is difficult to read the tone of a message sometimes, but smileys [ :o) ] can help you tell when someone is not being entirely serious! Keep asking the questions. Thanks to Jon, Malcolm and others for defending my intentions in my absence. Now I'm worrying that Wesley will also have been offended..... please reassure me, someone!! Noreen wishingthatpeoplewouldassumethebestratherthantheworst |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Jul 00 - 04:08 PM Sonya, you can find a source for a recording of the song here (click) - and there are even sound samples for you to play there. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Susan from California Date: 08 Jul 00 - 07:16 PM There is a lne from the song that says something like "you better get ready, 'cause they could be coming to your town." When I was about 7 or eight years old I thought Peter Tork was quite dreamy, and I used to sit on the curb, getting excited every time I heard a car coming because it could be the Monkees--after all, they said they might be coming to my town. When my own children heard that story, they thought it was hysterical. Now when they want to make fun of my optomistic (sp?) nature, they ask if I want to wait for the Monkees. Ah, the joys of parenthood. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 08 Jul 00 - 07:18 PM Welcome Sonya. Standing up for yourself is a good start, but as everyone, even Noreen, has said, you misread what was in my view a perfectly justified dig at whoever called the Monkees a rock'n'roll band. Stick around and you could learn from Noreen, as I am in the process of doing right now in another thread which I really must get back to sometime... |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 08 Jul 00 - 07:24 PM OK now I'm seriously worried about the lot of you!! I thought that I was bad enough! Can we go back to something sensible now please?? LTS Nice to hear that Peter got to do something else - he's the only one we never heard about. Everyone else went on to do more music or acting. I used to think he was quite sweet, but prefered Davy, because he has such lovely eyes........ and that little snub nose, and that .... sorry, hot flash, better go now.... LTS |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Date: 08 Jul 00 - 07:58 PM My brother George was a huge fan of the Monkees when he was 8 or 9. He soon transferred his fandom to the Beatles, became a musician, and still plays here and there. Mostly here, since he's been living with us since January. It's been mostly a good arrangement, until last week, when my daughter went into his room while he was watching a Monkees rerun- and now she's hooked!! I've tried for 30 years to get those songs out of my head and now my own sweet child is singing them!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 09 Jul 00 - 04:49 AM Oh you poor dear, that is the reason we don't have satellite or cable - too many traumatic reruns. I'm having a bad enough time coping with the Little House on the Prairie reruns on British terrestrial TV, Saturdays. I must have watched over 500 episodes of that programme, never seen the same one twice, and they never learned another hymn, other than 'Bringing in the sheaves'..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 10 Jul 00 - 09:02 AM Herself (being much younger than me),has an extensive collection of "Best of the '60s" compilation tapes, at least one of which always seems to accompany us on long journeys. They all seem to contain either"I'm a Believer" or "Last Train to Clarksville" which are thus indelibly imprinted on my brain. But, of course, Lonnie Donegan and at least one blues tape and some jazz, are also there to counteract the effect! RtS |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Morticia Date: 10 Jul 00 - 10:23 AM Sonya, I suspect if you are 17, your mum is the same age as me, more or less.....persevere with this site, we aren't all wierd except Liz, and Jon, and 'Spaw and a character called Micca.....and you need to watch for Jenellen and......oh, sod.....okay we're all wierd...but our intentions are good.....mostly :) |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Peter T. Date: 10 Jul 00 - 10:32 AM Cassandra Wilson, the jazz singer, won a Grammy recently for an album of hers, New Moon Daughter, that has a smooth version of "Last Train to Clarksville" on it. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Yo Date: 10 Jul 00 - 11:25 AM LOOK WHAT YOU STARTED SONYA !!!!!! Yo. |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Mike Regenstreif Date: 10 Jul 00 - 01:58 PM I've also got a recording of Flatt & Scruggs doing "Last Train to Clarksville." Taj Mahal did "Take a Giant Step" on one of his ealy albums. Among the songwriters feeding material to the Monkees were John Stewart and Michael Martin Murphey. And I must say that a lot of Michael Nesmith's post-Monkees recordings are vey good. Mike Regenstreif |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: alison Date: 11 Jul 00 - 09:32 AM How dare you Filbert... THe Bay City Rollers were brilliant!! *grin* admittedly I was about 8... my mum refused to let me go to their concerts, and wouldn't buy me the trousers with tartan down the side, (boooo meanie!!!!!)..... but I did run around with stripey socks and a bit of tartan tied around my wrist
and we sang shang-a-lang as we ran with the gang welcome to Mudcat Sonya ... we really are quite friendly (most of the time).. and you usually find what you're after... and more often than not you get thread creep (where it wanders off the subject) .. like you're getting now.... trivia you forgot to tell her was that Davy Jones from the Monkees also appeared in the Brady Bunch, as Marcia's heart-throb!!!! slainte alison
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Steve Latimer Date: 11 Jul 00 - 11:49 AM LTS, I've been a long time fan of Coronation Street, but I don't remember Davey Jones on it, who did he play. Mike, "Take a Giant Step' is a Monkees song? Quiz time, who was originally slated to open for The Monkees on their North American Tour? |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 11 Jul 00 - 11:55 AM Steve, even though it was before I had a tv, I believe he was Ena Sharples' grandson. RtS ( a mind full of useless trivia!) |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Mike Regenstreif Date: 11 Jul 00 - 12:16 PM Steve, "Take a Giant Step" was written by Carole King and Gerry Goffin, but was one of the Monkees' first hits. The quiz answer is Jimi Hendrix. Mike Regenstreif |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Amergin Date: 11 Jul 00 - 12:21 PM Should rename this thread: BS Skeletons in the Mudcat Closet |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Steve Latimer Date: 11 Jul 00 - 12:33 PM RTS, That must be pre-Monkees then. Kinda neat. Mike, Congratulations, you win an acid laced bandana. I've only heard Taj's version, I can't imagine the Monkees doing it.
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Jim the Bart Date: 11 Jul 00 - 01:37 PM it's funny how timing can change your perception. The Monkees were launched when I was at the exact age to fully appreciate them. We were desperate for more Beatles stuff (movies, records, gossip - you name it) and the Monkees filled the gap very well. That's one of the reasons I'll always have a soft spot in my head, er heart, for them. On the other hand, I used to wonder why it took me so long to appreciate Elvis. After I thought about it I realized that when I began to get into popular music, Elvis was either in the army, or in all those movies. At the time, he was the antithesis of hip and so I didn't "get him" until later. By the time the Bay City Rollers came out, there was no way I could fall for that! I have tried to keep this in mind with my kids, with positive results. I haven't had to eat my words as much since I learned to wait before expressing my initial reaction to bands like the Beastie Boys or Radiohead. I rarely say "how can you listen to that crap" anymore. And I have actually learned to like a lot of the new stuff as much as a lot of the old stuff. I can see the headline - "OLD DOG LEARNS NEW TRICK". who would have thunk it? |
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Subject: RE: what is this song? From: Liz the Squeak Date: 11 Jul 00 - 01:50 PM Hey, who mentioned Lonnie Donnegan? I was asked for a copy of his hit record (No 1 in 1960 I beleive - for the life of me I can't remember the title) for a party in 3 weeks time, but couldn't oblige..... unless of course...... nah! No one would admit to that would they? And yes, it was Pre-Monkees, and he was Ena's grandson... I never saw it, I just have a head full of crappy trivia. Sonya - we are the people your mother has been warning you about..... especially that Morticia. LTS |
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