Mudcat Insomniacs.....

Subject: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 10:49 AM

It appears that many thread messages occur between the hours of midnight and 5 am.

Is the Mudcat a cause or a cure for us nonsleepers?

Yawning, ar work.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 10:51 AM

sorry I'm "at" work not "ar" work, little tired, I guess.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: MMario
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 10:53 AM

well - midnight here is 5 am in England/Wales and god knows what time in Australia/NZ. It's only 9 pm in California ....so depends on where you is.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 10:59 AM

I's noticed that I can send a message during the day here in Wales + UK and it tells porkie pies (lies) and says its 4am - but honest it isnt, it's usually 10 am or there abouts.

(its the time difference in places)

Ella

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Midchuck
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 11:02 AM

I think Oz time is just about opposite US east coast time...that is, it's the same time a. m. there as it is p. m. here, or vice versa...but I don't know if it's the day before or the day after.

Peter.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 11:23 AM

Although its true we are worldwide, if you check on it you'll find quite a few 'Catters all over the world posting in their own "wee hours." I'm one.......Guilty as charged.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 11:44 AM

My nocturnal habbits have got me accused of being a Vampire! I have never been an early to bed person but I have got worse since I started using the Internet. The main reasons for this are that I am unemployed and rarely have anything I need to do in the morning and that much of what I do, i.e. the people I chat with and hearme, tends to centre around American time even though I live in the UK so I find it more convenient to keep those hours.

I start on an HNC in Buisness IT at the end of this month so my habbits will have to change if I'm going to manage to attend the college at ungodly hours like 9:00 am.

Jon

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Morticia
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 02:29 PM

I'm off sick pro tem, and like Jon, keep odd hours because it suits me and allows me to hook up with some mudcat friends but once, when I was suffering through a very bad bout of insomnia I posted a thread here and got many helpful suggestions......if you are suffering I suggest you search on insomnia......it was back in January I think.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 03:12 PM

What's really weird is calling Hawaii from Korea, and having to remember that although Hawaii is 5 hrs later than Korea, it's the day before. (I kept trying to call an office on Mon, and it was still Sun in Hawaii.)

Air force crew members routinely set their watches to GMT and mentally add or subtract an appropriate number of hours for wherever they are. Don't ask them "what time is it" - they'll ask "where."

I'm unemployed at the moment, and my sleep schedule keeps creeping later and later. Unfortunately, right before bed I usually decide to make sure I haven't missed anything on Mudcat, so I'm on for an our later than when I decided to pack it in.

ONE MORE THREAD

Oh, have you seen the 'Cat me darlin'?
One more thread!
The forum's where it's at me darlin',
One more thread!

cho: Only one more thread, me darlin'
One more thread!
Oh, rock and roll me over,
One more thread!

Morticia, just out of curiousity, did any of the suggestions work?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 03:53 PM

Jeri, is that original? You should have put a LyrAdd in there somewhere, woman!! Wonderful!! I did kinda wonder what Spaw was doing awake because Mudcat Time is Spaw time. I am two hours earlier, so I am not quite so bad, except sometimes...............

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 04:08 PM

Um, Sorch...Mudcat Time is Eastern, Spaw is in Central time, one hour later than you...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 04:15 PM

if you use a PC...get WorldTime at http://pawprint.net/

a WONDERFUL clock that will show you the time at any combination of places in the world, and display the light-dark shadow...and give you distances from a place in KM or miles..and do a counting timer to or from any day....and darn your socks, and tune your lute...no..*grin*...not those last two....

oh, yeah...it is F*R*E*E*...he has other stuff, too, and he is a folkie!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 04:40 PM

Spaw is on Eastern........Central is 130 miles west.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 04:59 PM

Guess I'm all screwed up today.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:14 PM

Morty is staying with me this weekend, I'll tell you if it works or not - we may end up sharing the back bedroom (the guest room where the computer resides) whilst the two blokes share Phoebe's bed......

Insomnia is caused by Mudcat, you post something, and someone answers rapidly, you have to say thank you or stick your fourpence in, or you get involved in a Hearme, and before you know it, it's 3.00am, your eyeballs are like pissholes in the snow and your child is screaming for its breakfast!!

LTS - it is really 11.45pm, I still have another 2 hours to go before I can get to bed......

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Lox
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:19 PM

Almost 10 hours on my PC today, and I can't walk for fear of tripping over my eyelids.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: rangeroger
Date: 10 Aug 00 - 08:13 PM

Jeri,the International Date Line can mess a lot of things up.When I was in the Navy, my ship crossed it on our way to Aukland NZ. We went to bed on Fri. nite and woke up Sun. morn. to pull into port.
Guess what? All the bars were closed on Sun. What kind of liberty was this? Luckily we found our way to the NZ Navy base and the Enlisted Mens Club and had a great piss-up.

rr

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: alison
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:27 AM

when it's midnight in Mudcat land... it's 2pm the next day here in Sydney..... so you should all be asleep now....

night night

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:39 AM

Im still up Alison and it has just gone 6:30am here. Must be bed time soon.

BTW Alison, how do you cope with all those premature births in oz? Must be a hell of a life being born a day early and then having to learn to walk upside down ;-)

Jon

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:39 AM

Hi al.........How's tricks? Koalas eatin' your flutes?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:43 AM

Guest-

I have no regularly established sleep patterns. Haven't had any for a long time. If I could figure out how to do it, I would. Consequently, you can find my posts at just about any time of the day or night.

Carol

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:46 AM

Ah Carol....You're a born 'Catter!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:48 AM

HA ha 1:46am here and I'm still awake! And my parents have no clue! NAH NAH!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:51 AM

Why, thank you Spaw! That's just about the nicest thing anybody's said to me in a long time.

Carol

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: alison
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:52 AM

I'm a professional midwife Jon... I've learnt to cope.... hahaha

is your coffin comfy to sleep in?

spaw.. I'm beating them off with a stick.....

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:57 AM

Well al, that's an interesting method. Never tried it myself....Sounds kinda' painful. Do the koalas seem to like it?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 02:17 AM

Well Alison, I'd invite you to try my coffin but I fear Mark would object! ;-)

Jon

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Lena
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 04:30 AM

You should experiment the great satisfaction of having a new year's eve in Oz.You pick up the phone,call someone Europe or so,amd go"Hello...I'm calling from year 2000..."

Often I was tempted to post a good morning thread to wish a good day to all mudcatters 'left behind' somewhere who still had to finish the previous day. And since this is not my native timetable,at the end of the day I'm envious of all those ones in the world who are still going through the day and will live more of it...it sounds funny. I used to log on the Mudcat at 8-10 in the night and go on until 4 or even six in the morning...luckily the housecomputer broke down and I can log in for a scarce hour during the day.I'm safe! The mudcat,I think,is terribly insomniac.You sit there and go through it like a dream or anyway something out of your touchable reality...and you can wake up then-and go to sleep!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Micca
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 05:13 AM

perhaps this might help? Click here

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Giac
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 06:22 AM

Good one, Micca.

Let's see, if I have this right, it's breakfast time in Tennessee, so it must be lunch time there? Of course for those of us who have been up most of the night, maybe it's supper time. Either way, there's food involved.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Aug 00 - 01:02 PM

Jeri, yes many of them did work....but the primary cause at that time was a really bad dose of flu for which I was taking sudafed....not realising until a kind mudcatter pointed it out that it has caffeine or some such in it...there were some great tips on living with a bad cold or flu too now I think of it.......guess I'll be going back to that thread myself come the winter.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 02:50 AM

Back to the original question, Mudcat's been keeping me awake for a little while tonight, but now I'm also being kept awake by something else: I decided to burn a copy of my 'Silent Hill' (Playstation game) soundtrack for my cousin, and it's a pain in the ass...

After this, I'll probably go for a drive, pick up my car at my dad's house, and go home and feed my cats. I'll be in bed by... 4 or 5 am? Ugh...

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: CamiSu
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 03:15 AM

Well I just got done with the last of 6 batches of jam today and am printing labels (just taught my computer to do that, but it's a bit tricky and it is getting cranky) and in the meantime house managed Wavestar's production of As You Like It. We got completely rained out so we did the performance in her frat house---a VERY unusual fraternity. It would have to be for her to be a member! But this is when I can take the time to look and that "One more thread" about sums it up...But since I gotta get up at 7 for the farmer's market I guess I better off to bed. G'night all...*yawn*

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: mactheturk
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 09:06 AM

Couldn't go to sleep
got up an hit the light
tried to write it down
in the middle of the night
lookin' for the words
but they won't come right

"Wish We Had Our Time", by John Hartford

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Cobble
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 07:50 PM

Was going to bed then I read about all you mudcat insomniacs, now I cannot sleep! Good morning.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Cobble
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 07:58 PM

I am not a guest I joined 2 to 3 weeks ago Has my Membership been rejected? by the way I cannot find My page either. HELP.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 08:06 PM

Cobble,

Go to the top of the forum-home page. Click on quick links. Select re-set cookie, and then follow the directions that come up on your screen. You might have to do this fairly often. I have to do it almost every time I enter the Mudcat. (It's worth it, though)

Carol

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 08:09 PM

Yeah, I am an insomniac. I admit it. Not only am I on mudcat and other websites at ungodly hours, I have been known to be doing the washing up at dawn!!!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Cobble
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 08:28 PM

Thanks CarolC my mind is at rest off to bed now, good night folks, thank you. yawn. Cobble.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 11:10 PM

I'm still up and it's 4:11am in Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Any sane person, or my boyfriend,(lol)would be fast asleep by now so NIGHT NIGHT!

I'm only 16!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 11:37 PM

Still up!! It is now 4:40am and it's starting to get light!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 12 Aug 00 - 11:57 PM

The Firecat never sleeps...neither does rust (hee hee)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: ol'troll
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 12:27 AM

I'm retired (AT LAST) so it don't matter none.

I sleep when'ere I like.

I get up just the same.

I change my sox three times a year.

With no one to complain.

(Except Wife, who wants her coffee ready at 0615 and the bacon and eggs at 0620. I'm no fool. I oblige.)

troll

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Catrin
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 09:56 AM

I eat when I'm hungry
I drink when I'm dry
And if the Mudcat don't kill me
I'll post 'til I die

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 10:21 AM

V. funny, Mbo, I don't think!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 10:31 AM

Sorry, it's a Neil Young joke...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 10:35 AM

I'm too young for him!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Catrin
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 12:02 PM

The Lion does though

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 12:16 PM

And the Sidewinder!! :-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 12:22 PM

Now ye got me puzzled! Only Sidewinders I know are missiles...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 12:46 PM

And here was I thought it was the lino..... guess I got a typo...

LTS, who intends to sleep tonight, but preferably not in the car on the way home - I'm driving it!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: rangeroger
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 01:55 PM

LTS,let us know if you get to Gurney Slade by way of Bath while you're sleep-driving.

rr

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 02:03 PM

Mbo, "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonight" is an REM song which samples "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 13 Aug 00 - 02:14 PM

Ha ha! REM and Insomniacs! Whatta thread!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: PoohBear
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 12:12 AM

Rapid Eye Movement? Isn't that a sign of the dreaming part of sleep?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 02:12 PM

I think REM ARE insomniacs, the number of showbiz parties I've seen them at! Not that I GO to showbiz parties of course!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 06:38 PM

Did a song about insomnia on Hearme the other night. Will post it as soon as I can find it. It goes to Brahms lullaby....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 06:59 PM

Bit ironic,eh,LtS?! It's more or less midnight here in Doncaster,and I've still gotta tidy up before the parents get home sometime tomorrow. It's gonna be a looooooooong n.......i........g.......h.......t.......!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 09:03 PM

It's two o'clock, I'm Katy Ingram, and here is the news.

I can't be bothered to go to sleep so I'm not gonna go to bed. I have done about three quarters of the washing up and the rest is soaking. I fully intend to stay up to watch Lee West on Children's BBC Holidays On Two (H.O.T) at approx 7 am! I'm currently listening to the radio.

More news in an hour!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 09:58 PM

Girl, yer mad!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: P05139
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 09:58 PM

Ok, maybe a bit less! It is now 5 to 3 in the morning and I've ended up putting full face makeup on to hide the bags!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Mbo
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 10:09 PM

Why not come over to Hearme? Right here? It's more fun that the radio, believe it or not!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 00 - 10:21 PM

Firecat......Please check yourself in at the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed. Tiple and Noseflute are both provided and special insomnia treatments are available after you have blown up the possum's ass.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Aug 00 - 05:29 PM

Well here it is. It goes to the tune of Brahms lullaby (yeah, I know - ain't I a stinker?!) and I hope it all works out.....

I can't sleep, I can't sleep,
I've got bloody insomnia.
Eyes like sand pits, open wide,
In the middle of the night.
Counted sheep, drank warm milk,
Walked the dog, read the Bible,
Wrote a book, played at cards,
And it's still 3.00 a.m..

I can't sleep, I can't sleep,
Through that bone shaking snoring,
Like an earthquake, in my bed,
In the middle of the night.
Tried to stop, tried to turn,
Suffocate or to drown him,
Still he snores, like a drain,
And it's still 3.00 a.m..

I can't sleep, I can't sleep,
So I sit here and ponder,
Why is rain wet? Is the grill off?
Did my washing all get done?
Count more sheep, have a gin,
Doze off, just for a second…..
Damned alarm, in my ear!
Now it's bloody 8.00 a.m..!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Aug 00 - 05:30 PM

Yo!! It worked!!!! more or less....

Have fun with it chaps, it ususally sends me off the fourth or fifth time through.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 02:54 AM

I think I was a hamster in a previous life, (I regulary stay up all night)!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 05:31 AM

Should have been a lumberjack then you'd be OK

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: fogie
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 05:45 AM

When its nighttime in Italy it's Wednesday over here, does that help??

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jul 02 - 06:51 AM

Me too, over here in Everett, Washington USA. Over the years I've found beds to be dangerous places ... it's not smart to spend much time in them! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Insomniac, 1.51 am
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 11:54 AM

Guest, Yawn, where are you when I need you?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Yawn
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 11:56 AM

Ho Hum - Y A W N.........

I think most of me is here - just.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Insomniac 2.10 am
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:13 PM

Am I dreaming about Mudcat, or is Mudcat dreaming about me?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Guest, Fed Up
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:17 PM

get to sleep.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Yawn
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:20 PM

Both of you get to sleep!

I was having a nice dream about Mudcat dreaming about me, and you woke me up!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Insomniac 2.23 am, & Guest Fed Up
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:26 PM

'Night Guest Yawn










ditto (yawn)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:29 PM

G'night GUEST, fed up and GUEST, fed up.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:32 PM

G'night jen.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Yawn
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:33 PM

And goodnight JennyO, GUEST Insomniac and GUEST Fed up.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 12:36 PM

G'night freda, and g'night John-boy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 10:01 PM

"Goodnight, Chet."

"Goodnight, David."









(sure dates me!)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 10:02 PM

Me, and I'm in the chat room.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Aug 05 - 01:40 AM

It's 6.39am UK time, sums me up.

eric

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jan 06 - 11:32 AM

..sigh..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 04:40 AM

I'm with you there Freda.... got a refreshing (NOT) 2 hours kip last night..... but I did manage to catch up on my Cosmopolitan reading and plan some patchwork pieces.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 09:05 AM

Got to sleep some time after 4.00 am last night, Liz. Tonight i''m using the hypnotic tape!

hopefully

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Jan 06 - 01:44 PM

drugs...lots of drugs.

(well, some Melatonin and some Tylenol PM occasionally, anyway....and a Restoril once in awhile if I really need to 'relax' to sleep)

Sure is a change from when I used to be able to sleep on a hard counter at noon!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Jan 06 - 04:20 AM

Ah yes... drugs.... did for me for 7 hours last night, and boy, did I need it!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 01:46 PM

5.44 am, birds are singing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Mr Happy
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:13 PM

4 me + my girl...........!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 09:16 PM

What's sleep?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Insomniac 1.42 am
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 09:43 AM

You know, mosquitos are like dive bombers - they hum, they buzz around, and when they swoop down at you, fangs bared, their sound gets louder and you go SLAP and then you realise its useless trying to sleep.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Yawn, 1.52 am
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 09:53 AM

..and then you trade off - is it better to lie there in the dark, listening to the relentless sound of the occasional mosquito beaming in on you, in the hope that you can drift off, or is it better to enjoy the awakeness, and make some toast and vegemite and write odd things through the night?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 10:03 AM

Insomnia is actually worsened, over time, by Mudcatting. The rapid clicking/flickering fool the brain into thinking it's actually getting REM sleep and the brain chemistry suffers acccordingly. Physiologically, Mudcat's speed and design make it function like a drug.

Old news, but I havn't posted it in several years.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 10:28 AM

Susan, I haven't seen you post that before, but it wouldn't surprise me at all - explains a lot, actually.

That toast and vegemite idea is sounding pretty good...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Insomniac 2.33 am
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 10:34 AM

couldn't be bothered toasting it - just had bread & vegemite. should keep me going for a bit.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:16 PM

...quite a bit....( 28 hrs later & stll counting sheep)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:25 PM

I found this receipe - chuinese herbs or something - for insomnia:

Fillet of a fenny snake,        
In the cauldron boil and bake;        
Eye of newt and toe of frog,        
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,        
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,        
Lizard's leg and owlet's wing,        
For a charm of powerful trouble,        
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.        
Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf,        
Witches' mummy, maw and gulf        
Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark,        
Root of hemlock digg'd i' the dark,        
Liver of blaspheming Jew,        
Gall of goat, and slips of yew        
Silver'd in the moon's eclipse,        
Nose of Turk and Tartar's lips,        
Finger of birth-strangled babe        
Ditch-deliver'd by a drab,        
Make the gruel thick and slab:        
Cool it with a baboon's blood,        
Then the charm is firm and good.

I've been assured it works..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 03:33 PM

It does, but only if you want to wake up with a craving for flies and the ability to leap over ponds....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 05:49 PM

Are we going to make it?


LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 05:50 PM

Baaaaah!!!

That's 100 sheep to count...

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: autolycus
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 06:40 PM

No time to right thru the thread (cries of 'intolerable','disgraceful','red card,ref')

We could sort the time thing by including in postings what the time is on our clock/watch.

Methods of getting to sleep that have worked for me.

1. Do a 3-digit by 3-digit multiplication in my head; keep restarting when I lose track till I lose cosciousness.

2. Overdo keeping myself awake while lying in bed with eyes shut till etc.

3. Remind myself that there have been literally 1000s of nights when I've slept, so not to worry.


With apologies if I'm on the wrong track here.

Ivor

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:17 PM

thank you so much ivor.

freda

(just awoken by the sound of a massive garbage truck rolling down the street, with all the accompanying rumbling, crashes, and broken glass)

11.16 am

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Morticia
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:28 PM

I 'spect this is old hat but have you tried taking yourself for a (mental) walk through a building........I visualise every detail from the hall to the 33rd ( if necessary) bedroom......colour, furnishings,purpose, books, bed linen.....every little thing until the place is more familiar than home.....mostly I don't get further than the library...on bad nights, the 5th bedroom......and as I said, on one very bad night, the 33rd bedroom but as mental chewing gum, it works.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:56 PM

thanks Morticia - I hope i don't have another bug eyed night but if i do..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 07:58 PM

So, where are all these insomniacs when I need them???? Wrong time zones I guess....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:19 AM

Seems I get more sleep between 8am and 10.00am than I do between 10.00pm and 8.00am.... I'm still unbearably cheerful in the mornings... they just start really REALLY early!

But if you're awake at 4.00am GMT, spare a thought for my uncle who will be on his way out to the milking parlour whatever the weather.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:23 AM

and speaking of cows, thanks for reminding me Liz, I'll be having a hot milk n horlicks tonight, and taking some magnesium tabs

fingers crossed

f.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:44 AM

I've been visiting 'down home' so the car smells of cows.. it's lovely but City Boy Manitas wants me to clean it out.... he be puggled if 'ee doan loike thur smell o' good clean cowshit.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: David C. Carter
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:00 AM

Liz,You're talking "good clean cowshit"and I'm just about to have lunch!

David

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:00 AM

must be great to get back there. Strange, these city boys.. can't handle the smell of the earth..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:04 AM

Fresh cowshit is sweet and aromatic.. it's only when it's been lying around for a few days that it starts to smell horrid...

Cow pee is a different matter entirely.

Enjoy your lunch!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: David C. Carter
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:08 AM

Thank's a pile!and I'll stay with the Bordeaux,thank you very much!

Cheers

David

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:17 AM

I don't blame you.. I've often wondered how 'Blue Nun' was made.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:22 AM

A pile - nothing like a good steaming pile - hee hee!

(I wonder whose lunch/dinner time it is now? MWUHAHAHAHA HA HA)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 01:11 PM

meanwhile, back in sydney at 3.09 am I can hear bats screeching, chirruping and cavorting in the trees over the road. I made the mistake of mentioning the "I" word this afternoon, and now, in the early hours of the morning.....

maybe I should be counting bats..


freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: autolycus
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 07:41 AM

Freda,

Aside from the suggestions so far for getting to sleep, may I suuggest (No flags and saluting here, oh no) a counsellor or therapist. Sleeplessness can be to do with matter unresolved that one continues to chew on, or at least the unconscious does. Just a thought, from a therapist obviously.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:18 PM

You're quite right Ivor - I've done 8 years of group therapy with 8 women and a gestalt therapist - one of the best things I've ever done - but it was those damned bats! (the flapping ones)!!

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: autolycus
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:26 PM

As a gestaltist, I'm glad it was a gestaltist, Freda.

   What was the "I" word ?(modesty forbids) or shouldn't I ask?


   Ivor

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 01 May 06 - 04:36 AM

I was wondering that too, Freda, but didn't mention it before cos I thought it was just me being thick. So what was the "I" word?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 06 - 05:35 AM

it was......


















"Insomnia"!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 01 May 06 - 06:13 AM

D'oh.....

I must have had too many late nights myself - but for some reason it didn't seem all that obvious.

Ya gonna have another late one tonight?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 May 06 - 07:25 AM

i hope not jenny - I'm back into proper hours again - I think Saturday's insomnia might have been excitement - I'm going to Austria on Thursday!!
fred

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: JennyO
Date: 01 May 06 - 09:37 AM

Yeah, not long now! Hope you have a wonderful time! Do you think you might get on Mudcat at any stage while you are over there?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 19 Jul 06 - 12:45 PM

the "I" word has reared its ugly head.

I for inane (all those useless comments?)
for inept (sabotaging my tomorrow)
or for










insomnia............aaaagh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 02:45 AM

Jeez--this is my 8th night straight.

I need some

safe and restful
sleep, sleep, sleep.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 02:48 AM

not insomnia, just kids that won't go to bed! One was supposed to be all packed for her move to college tomorrow. Guess what? Piles of stuff everywhere, and one tired mom.

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: LilyFestre
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 03:20 AM

I'm just up. The house is quiet with sounds of my husband sleeping peacefully, crickets softly humming, all the animals are sleeping....now if I could just join them.....

Michelle

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: John O'L
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 05:54 AM

My son and I have found that Bach Flowers remedies have helped us sleep more soundly.

Just recently we both suddenly started having a lot of trouble sleeping, and a doctor acquaintance mentioned melatonin. I Googled it and found that it occurs naturally in bananas. Since Cyclone Larry had sent the price of bananas from less than a dollar a kilo to $14 a kilo we had stopped eating them. Now we are spending more on bananas than on petrol but at least we are sleeping at night again.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,kt
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:01 AM

yawn.......3 am here.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 08:28 AM

I've just had a week of wonderful, restful, undisturbed sleep and peaceful days.

Then Manitas and Limpit came home from their holiday.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Firecat
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 11:02 AM

6.15 am I got to sleep... 7.40am the stupid alarm woke me up!! I'd forgotten it was on. I'm going to go for a bath now. Hope I don't fall asleep in it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 04:01 PM

Years ago, while going through a rough patch, I visited a medical doctor for relaxation therapy. If my 'stories' don't work for me, to this day I do what the doctor taught me: I visualise a puffy cloud on which I nestle. I can 'pack' the cloud under my knees or my neck or wherever I need more support. It is peaceful and comfy and I am weightless. If I'm curious I can sit up and take a look at the silent blue sky and then cuddle down again...

Sure beats counting sheep.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: skarpi
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:04 PM

Not for me here in Iceland not after midnight .

All the best Skarpi Iceland

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: John O'L
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 07:24 PM

It must be hell to lie awake all night up there Skarpi

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:00 AM

fluffy clouds, bananas .. i'll try these next time!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:24 AM

Sorry... that just made me think of banana splits covered in cream....

must


eat









chocolate.........



















LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 09:13 AM

Somewhere I read: 'Save Mother Earth. It is the only planet with chocolate.'

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:02 AM

'In any case, chocolate is hardly a rare commodity,' said Chaos. 'There are planets covered in the stuff'

REALLY?

'Indeed.'

IT MIGHT BE BEST, said Death, IF NEWS LIKE THAT DID NOT GET ABOUT.

Terry Prachett, Thief of time.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 04:20 PM

You can always see if anyone is in the chat rooms...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 05:06 PM

i tried the fluffy clouds last night and went straight off to sleep!

unfortunately forgot about them when I woke up at 3.00.

must get some bananas today! (yes, we have no bananas!)

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 12:04 AM

I've tried warm milk, ambien, trazadone, benedryl, Australian shiraz and Italian pinot gregio. deep breathing and visualization. Nothing is helping.

I have bouts of insomnia but never for so long before. I'm beginning to wonder if the eye stimulation of being on the computer at night is contributing.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Aug 06 - 03:11 AM

Janie - can you fit that list to the tune of 'Dido, Bendigo'?

There was Shiraz, Benedryl, some eyetie pinot grigio,
Warm milk, trazadone and breathing!

Try watching a film you've really wanted to see for some time... works like magic for me... I STILL haven't seen how 'Frankenstein' (1934, Boris Karlof version) ends....

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 12:32 AM

Looks like I'm heading into another late night. I'm starting to get sick and miss work from the fatique. Guess I best get
myself to the doctor.

Or at least get off the damned computer.

nite nite.

Janie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: John O'L
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:06 AM

Liz -

The big ugly guy gets it in the neck.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 01:27 AM

Sleep? I just keep going and at some point I'm awake again! And if I go online there's always a Mudcatter or two floppin' about the site and citin' about the flop.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bert
Date: 24 Aug 06 - 02:14 AM

Try a hop pillow.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 07:04 AM

after three nights of interrupted sleep, i slept well and then had the most wonderful dream. I dreamt that I was walking through a medieval village with a friend (catter hilda fish) and she took me into the village square. Erected across the green lawn was a series of huge, cube and rectangular shaped sculptures like buildings, with pipes and metal scultpted pieces linking them.

As we looked about these huge wooden sculptures, the wind was blowing through the wood and making it vibrate and hum. It created a huge natural instrument - a cross between a scuplture, a building and a musical instrument because all the wooden walls and panels were vibrating and humming in different harmonic keys, as the breezes stirred the wood.

I woke up with an amazing sense of gratitude to my brain - it felt like it was generating wonderful healing energy into me, through this dream.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 25 Aug 06 - 08:29 AM

Nite all. I'm heading for Freda's dream.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 26 Aug 06 - 04:19 AM

Once upon a 1:16 AM (PDT) dreary
While I pondered, weak and weary...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Aug 06 - 02:48 AM

I seem to be up wide awake at 1:42am. It's more a case of too much to do and not enough time in which to do it, and a weekend over which I can do a little extra work. But I'm finished, so I hope I can wind down and get to sleep soon. I have to get up early to walk the dogs (and myself) because after about 8am it will be too hot to walk very far or very briskly. BUT WAIT! I see there are thunderstorms in the region. We're a bit off the path right now, but maybe they'll expand to our area. How nice--the idea of sleeping to the sound of rain!

(Too bad I washed the dogs today--it'll probably be a horrible muddy mess out back after this drought we've been having, and the dogs will be in the middle of it).

SRS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 03:06 AM

Well hell. Fourth night in a row.

Janie

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: KT
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 03:24 AM

Janie...you still there? If so, meet me in the chat

KT

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Alice
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 12:40 AM

anyone here?.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 02:15 AM

I am, a couple of hours later, Alice.:-) Off ta bed now, though.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Pauline L
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 02:59 AM

I'm a chronic insomniac. I seldom get to sleep before sunrise. This thread is for me!

Happy New Year, everyone.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 08:50 PM

I have just come out of MudChat !

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 02:22 AM

I know it's only 2:20 am, but I think I'll call it a night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 07:16 AM

Janie

I use a hypnotic tape to get to sleep - it works. I'll pm you the website I got the tape from

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Alice
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 11:43 PM

When falling asleep feels the easiest... click

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Cats
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 11:52 PM

I am an insomniac and it really is 10 to 4 in the morning...Cornish Time

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: quokka
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 07:51 AM

i slept hardly a wink last night, set the alarm for 5am, plenty of time to leisurely gt ready for work at 6.30 or SO I THOUGHT! Apparently, daylight saving started last night, so it was actually 6am and I had to break the speed limit to get to work only 10 minutes late...needless to say, I'm shattered now but have to write some articles...deadline looming tomorrow.YAAAWWWN

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Cats
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 03:29 PM

We had an extra hour in bed last night so I didn't really miss the hour I sat up on mudcat in the middle of the night... I saw some times twice....

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 01:52 AM

I was surrounded by people chatting, drinking and swapping songs, so having the extra hour was fantastic!

Of course, Sunday afternoon was spent asleep on the sofa and now I've been up for an hour on Monday morning (ir's 6.00am UK time, and I don't even need to go to work today!

Typical!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Cats
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 03:51 AM

Hi Liz, We should have gone on the mudchat together... the cats still think it's an hour later though!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: MAG
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 02:23 PM

My doc recently switched me fromtrazodone to rozerem for insomnia. I was a wreck for weeks; I may be one of those 1% for whom rozerem does not work.

But the trazodone was partly responsible for making me fat,and I am sick of being fat. Dropping weight like crazy not that I'm off it.

Now if I could just sleep through the night ...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 02:51 PM

I've been up since 1:00 AM last night. I'm not having trouble sleeping - it's my son Brendan. I don't know if it's his teeth or what that's bothering him since he isn't talking. All I can say is thank God for coffee.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 01:28 AM

The insomnia bug has been biting pretty hard recently. Wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to get up in the morning. Several nights in a row of being up until 1:00 or 3:00 and having to get up at 6:00 really take their toll as I get older.

Maybe this little whine is what I needed to get to sleep. Gonna go try again now.

Nightnight. (I hope.)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 02:33 AM

sleep tight

sandra

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Gurney
Date: 23 Oct 09 - 03:17 AM

I'm a somniac, I rarely have trouble dropping off. If it wasn't for the bloody cat I'd get eight hours every night, but he always wants to go out at 4am, and THEN I have trouble going to sleep again.

It is 8.18 pm here in Auckland NZ. The clock starts off our east coast, 12 (or 11, or 13, depending on summer saving times) before Greenwich.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 11:42 AM

I'm attempting to think about sleeping. 3.42 am and feeling chirpy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 12:00 PM

... sigh ..

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 03:11 PM

zolpidem tartrate

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 12 Nov 09 - 03:13 PM

Given that I have been prone to somnambulism, decided I better check my post history to see if I have been catting in my sleep. I don't remember a lot of the posts, but just might be age.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 03:22 AM

WTF am I doing up at this ungodly hour?!? (3:10 a.m. New Hampshuh time.) Tom's sleeping quietly -- I've been awake since around 1 when I got up for a pee and been awake since. Came to grips with the fact that I'm probably not going to work today so got up to make baking powder biscuits to settle my tum.

Thursday nights are often problematic (but not THIS problematic!) because I don't get home from work until around 9 p.m. and then have to quickly slow down enough to sleep not long after I get home to be up at 6 a.m. to return to work. (Ain't retail grand?)

Hope I'm not getting what the store manager of the other US Vision optical shop in the mall (different host store) has -- I relieved her on Tuesday so she could go home sick. (She looked as bad as she said she felt.) We're short handed this weekend and Sunday (when I work alone) is not only the start of our semi-annual contact lens stock-up sale, but our host store's "Friends & Family" sale.

Sigh.

The biscuits are good...

Linn

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Kendall
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 05:44 AM

My sleep patterns have been broken for some time now and it is not unusual for me to be on the confuser at 4 am, or in the garage working on the antique car at that hour.

Today, I am restless because I have this biopsy to wonder about, plus, I just found out yesterday that my kid brother has been seduced by Fox noise. He thinks it's a news outlet!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Amos
Date: 13 Nov 09 - 10:47 AM

Nothing helps me break the back on insomnia better than melatonin.

A brief article here.


A

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 06:04 AM

For sixty years I have averaged about four hours sleep per night, and I've simply gone along with that.

When I was young (yes, I was once) I used to sit up until 2.00am working on the most intricate and difficult parts of my model ships. The rigging etc.

Now I do the editing of photos and music till the same hour, with regular forays into Mudcat.

When I go to bed, I'm asleep in seconds, and dead to the world until 6.00am, when I wake, and then drift in and out until my wife wakes, about seven. Then we both get up and attack the day.

With that level of sleep you don't have time for insomnia.

Don T

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 06:26 AM

My post just disappeared...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 08:55 AM

well, for about three weeks it's been back again. Just seems to come in and visit.

I've been taking valerian, which is pretty good, but its not working tonight.

There's nothing I'm worried about, no clear reason. Just something in my brain stays awake.

Anyway, it's a beautiful night here in Sydney, I spent a lovely afternoon with my grandaughter in the Botanic gardens. we saw ducks, bats, eels, waterlilies, and looking at the harbour, a tall boat with sails.

I'm going to put that hypnotic tape on again!

gnite all (hopefully :-) )

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 02:08 PM

Sweet dreams.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: olddude
Date: 31 Jan 10 - 03:24 PM

I think I win the big door prize, every night 2 -3 AM .. sleep what the heck is sleep ... something I don't do ... gotta see a doc one of these days ... I stay up stay up stay up then crash ... insanity for sure

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 21 May 10 - 01:18 AM

Nobody awake around here but me and a desperate bachelor mockingbird I can hear singing from a streetlight pole a couple of blocks to the northwest.

He has been at it for about 3 weeks now. Glad he is not on the post across from my driveway....I'd hate to have to shoot him:-)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 21 May 10 - 08:00 AM

"desperate bachelor mockingbird I can hear singing" - around here (West County Clare, Ireland) it's cuckoos, but they don't worry me, it's so lovely to hear a rapidly disappearing part of biodiversity (mostly due to rapidly changed farming practices, I understand)!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 04:24 AM

It's been awhile since I couldn't get to sleep at all. I'm just now where I I think I can probably lie down and sleep but need to be up and about by 7:00. Wondering if I should just stay up and hope I don't crash before noon.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 06:55 AM

As I dont have a Day Job , I tend to be on the Puter quite late most nights - Thats 'late'UK time - Often in Mudchat til about 2 am GMT

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:19 PM

I'm often on the computer at 2 to 4 am. Shoot me a PM or an email somebody.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:24 PM

Same here, Janie. PM, email...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 04:44 AM

I'm here now but no one around.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 08:24 AM

Hi night owls - though it's actually 1.15pm here and I'm watching Heartbeat (so it might as well be the middle of the night!)
I'm usually on post midnight GMT looking for an interesting thread, but an awful lot of these merchants seem to take everything (including themselves) very seriously.
I also have no job to go to, and am fairly well housebound now, so I'll probably check youse out in about 12 hours time.
Pip pip, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 08:53 AM

I was awake, Kendall. PM, email.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 10:13 AM

SSSsssssh! between you and me I don't do this in the early hours only in the working day and the 'real' work in-between. If I did have a PC at home I would be on it right into the early hours and looking very much like the Yawning Man on the 'Tom Thumb' movie.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 08:10 PM

Anybody out there? Its 1.10 gmt.
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 08:28 PM

Well, if no-one is there, I think I'll have a leisurely ramble for a while. Thanks for your mail, Maeve - I never got to sleep after all.
I'm now watching Omid Djalili on't telly, and about to start today's times crossword which I've been saving. I just put a grocery - well, ok,drink, order to tescos and the buggers can't deliver for a week. I'll have to call in a favour if I want to spend yuletide in a semi-comatose state (and I do).
I hope when some of you reprobates (just a guess) join in, someone can think of some nice eclectic, amusing topics to chaw on.
Crossword, here I come.
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 10:55 PM

Guess I'm the last man standing...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 12:32 AM

Nope. But 12:30 am eastern time ain't quite late enough for me to say I got them old insomnia blues.

(If I went to bed now, which I might do soon, I would actually fall right to sleep. That ain't insomnia. That is burning the candle at both ends.;^)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: J-boy
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 01:23 AM

Hey Kendall. Here is a true tale that may amuse you. Several years ago I worked in a cigar shop. One night two young men with very short haircuts came in. "Where can we find some fuckin' pussy?" One asked."I fuckin' need to get laid." Said another. I told those charming jarheads where to go without batting an eyelid. "You guys should go to The Underground, all kinds of hot chicks there." Of course,what I didn't tell them was that The Underground was the gayest bar in town. They didn't come back to the shop and kill me,so I like to think they discovered their feminine side.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 06:21 AM

I wonder what charm school they went to?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: open mike
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 07:32 AM

yep--still up...no rhyme or reason...it is 4:30 here
i sleep in fits and starts these days....
sometimes from 3-7 pm and 3-7 am

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 01:57 PM

Hi J boy. I think those Mormons haven't half changed since my day.
You could always have sent them to a pet shop, but that way they might have come back and killed you - unless of course they saw the light at the Underground.
I'll try again about midnight, or about 7 pm in Mudcat years!
And Kendall, if you're still standing, I presume you have a good supply of Gentleman's Literature - I usually make do with a nice cuppa and a sausage roll.
Toodle pip, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: open mike
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 10:24 PM

two hundred

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 11:33 PM

Mike;
Is that the time where you are, the extent of your Gentleman's Literature, or your age in dog years? Or what?
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 01:23 AM

I've stayed - off and on - for about 10 hours, and I assume you are all tied up with Chryssimas. Maybe see you tomorrow - to me,that's thursday.
Ciao, Davy.
It can be a bloody awful time of year, can't it?
D.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 01:39 AM

Good thread revival. I too, have made the observation that many here appear to be nightowls. Guilty! I love retirement: when I am sleepy I sleep and when not, I don't. And I have always been a night owl, from early childhood. I come alive around eight or nine PM so it's usually the Swing Shift but at times it's all night. I get my best ideas, write, draw, paint, play the guitar (quietly) as "she" is NOT an owl. Maybe it's something that creative people have in common. It would make a good poll question.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:22 AM

OK I stayed up. Hi Slag, I play banjo, bouzouki and mando at whatever level I want cos "she's" long gone. Retired also, I eat when I'm hungry, and I drink when I'm dry, ( sometimes I drink anyway). I'm not as creative as you seem to be, but feck it. Are you local, or from the colonies?
Cheers, Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:37 AM

Maeve - got your message - thanks, I did. Followed your other thread and hope your house is coming along well. We don't get much of this in Belfast.
Cheers, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 03:48 AM

Awake again here.

Thanks, framus. It's an interesting adventure, that's for sure.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:12 PM

Bugger this middle of the night lark - it's 7 pm here and I'm not asleep. Hello everybody................
What's that funny echo?
Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 05:20 PM

Framus, the Spanish Colonies, formerly known as Alto California! But not a Californio, though I am a second generation native.

Rye whisky, rye whisky, rye whisky I cry.
If I don't get rye whisky I surely will die.

Well I eat when I'm hungry, drink when I'm dry
And if I get thirsty I'll lay down and die.

Just to fill in around your quote.

All the interesting things happen after dark. Most of the world goes missing at that time so there are fewer people to keep track of and you generally know each other. Poets, lovers, burglars, bums, suicidal folks, police and prostitutes, ambulance drivers and real high fliers. Lot's of material for anyone's inspiration, adventure, danger and the more than casual observation. That big orange thing shows everything and nothing. Those faces are all planned in advance but the night reveals all for those who have eyes to see. The secret desires of the heart eschew the light it seems, whether good or evil, they are all vulnerable and thus stay hidden from the day time crowds. Who knew that the CEO could dance like a maniac, that the little wallflower could bloom so widely in the moonlight? I'll take the night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 07:34 PM

The way I heard it was: eat when I'm hungry, drink when I'm dry,
tail when I'm horny and hell when I die.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 08:00 PM

Heard it from whom, Kendall? :>)

That's an interesting version...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 08:35 PM

I like Kendall's version too, but mine went;
If the moonshine don't kill me,
I'll live till I die.
Slag seems to be a bit of a metaphysicist, but not all good things happen after dark - like sunrise, sunset, eclipses, streakers at cricket matches and afternoon drinking. But, chacun a son gout - unless it's real gout and your big toes are buggered.
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 01:59 AM

I'd really like to get this thread working. but we seem to keep missing one another.
It's 7 am my time and I'm for a kip - maybe try again later.
Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 03:10 AM

I don't remember exactly where I got that version but it could have been when I was in the service. We had guys from all over the country with their local versions of many songs.
There was no TV in the middle of the Atlantic and the only radio station was WWVA Wheeling West by god Virginia.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 03:22 AM

It's 3:20 am and I can't sleep No one else around...sigh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 04:13 AM

The haunting hour has come and gone. Just peeked into Desolation Row to see how the inmates are doing. And out and on to other things!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 12:38 AM

Hey Slag!..Hello!.....I'd post more, but I'm too tired..no sleep....been on 'Mudcat' too many all-nighters.......



Just kidding...

GfS

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 01:44 AM

Hi Sane person.
This is I think the first time I've been on at the same time as another Human.
I'm surrounded by about 5" of snow and will NOT be going out.
Happy Eve, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 01:49 AM

Just shy of midnight here in Colorado. I am only up for a few minutes. Lots of clouds, no snow here in the valley.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 05:11 AM

I actually slept last night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 08:45 AM

So did I maeve!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 07:07 AM

I did until 2a...been awake since. Glad you both got some sleep, though!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 07:10 AM

34F in the camper. Very wakeful here! Brrrr

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:32 AM

Don't you have a heater?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:48 AM

Sure we do. We just can't afford to keep it running so we shut it off at night unless it's realllllllly cold- and then we can't sleep for the noise! LOL

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 01:03 PM

34 F - luxury! It's about 6.00 pm here, and -5C. Maeve, what sort of heater have you that's noisier off than on?
Anyway, Santa's been and gone, and I'm a couple of bottles better off, so "I don't care if it hails or freezes,
    Long as I've got my plastic Jesus,
    Standin' on the dashboard of my car."
Have a nice one everybody, Davy.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 06:01 PM

Davy, we're in an uninsulated camper(caravan) with a small propane heater. 34F/1C is comfy outside with a jacket and a hat, but not so nice for sleeping. It was -14C outside.

The moon, stars, and our big LED Christmas star were lovely with the early predawn sky, however. The chickens were glad of fresh unfrozen water and some maize and sunflower seeds with their layer pellets.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:24 PM

Did you bank the skirts of the camper? That will keep a lot of cold out from under the floor.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 08:46 PM

We banked our house every year. No options for buying banking materials this year. We can eat for a month for the cost of hay bales around the camper, I shouldn't drifted so far from the topic, sorry. :)

Good sleep to you all tonight!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Beer
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 09:12 PM

Yes, sleep well all for another Christmas has come and soon to pass.
ad.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 25 Dec 10 - 11:56 PM

Anyone awake?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 06:33 PM

Here's hoping we all find sleep tonight.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:27 PM

Hi Maeve,
Hope I haven't missed you - didn't mean to offend about your level of coldness, sorry. We're -5C for about two weeks of the year, so we have to outdo somebody when it happens.
All the best to your propane heater, your straw bales, and, of course, you and yours.
I think I'll go and kick some snow while it's still there, then back to the liquid central heating.
Good luck, Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:31 PM

Hey there, Dave. No worries. I don't tend to compete, I just tell the facts as I know them. I hope you have a great night.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:41 PM

Thanks Maeve,
I've just seen your posts on the More Snow thread, and realise that my 5" can't compete with many others - but then that's what all the girls tell me!
Dave.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:49 PM

Fortunately there's no meaningful weather competition, Dave. I usually enjoy this sort of storm, but not this year.

I think Leadfingers is in Chat, by the way.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 09:51 PM

No insulation maeve? None in the walls either?

Well, soon enough, albeit none too soon, you will be able to cozy up in the yurt.

I understand that Maine winters and North Carolina winters are different creatures, but the six years we lived in the Airstream without underpinning or skirting were pretty tolerable, and temps in the 20's and teens F at night were not uncommon. We used a radiant propane heater we turned on in the mornings to huddle in front of, and to take the essential chill off of the front part of the trailer at night. Wool hats and socks were our friends in the evenings while I fixed supper, and we retreated early to the bed to cover up with a combination of heavy wool Hudson Bay blankets and down mummy bags. Would set the alarm about 30 minutes early to get up and light the heater, then dive back into bed until the deep chill was off the kitchen/sitting area. (We also spent one winter in a tent. We got through, but the travel trailer was much more tolerable when we graduated to it.)

I think the main thing, in either setting, was we were very careful to dress so that we kept reasonably warm during the day and did not allow our core body temps. to drop.   I'm allergic to wool, but nothing works better to maintain body warmth when one is not out working up a sweat. The new synthetics are "active wear" and are great if one is outside and active, because they breathe. None of them provide enough to maintain body heat in a cold, indoors setting.   They are not designed for outdoor living, but for outdoor activity.

Wool or not, wear a cap to bed, and as many clothes and covers as needed to stay warm in bed. Warming the bed with a brick or rock is good, but you still need enough insulating bed and head cover to maintain body temps. through the night. Go to bed before you feel significantly chilled.

And I bet you know all of this already.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 03:49 AM

Hey Ggfs! Ah, doing all those Christmas things, family things. I think Santa is one of us! Why else does he do his thing at the witching hour? As I said, for good or evil the really interesting stuff happens at night.

I hope you all had a good holiday. I did.

Janie, I was reading about the Clan McMillan to which I claim ancestry. One of the young sons had gone off to school and was home at the Christmas break. Wolves had attacked some of their sheep in the Highlands so Papa took his son out with him to address the problem. Snow was on the ground and their only warmth was in the clothes they wore. When night fell, they set about to sleep upon the snow when Papa looks over at his son who was fashioning a pillow from the snow: "You've gone soft on us now, ha'e you?"

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: maeve
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 03:54 AM

There's more than enough about us in appropriate threads. Sorry for thread drift on that subject here.

Here's hoping those who needed sleep are finding it.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:18 AM

just gone 9.00 am UK time..

maybe one or two more glasses of Calvados then off to bed until the afternoon..

This always happens the 1st night the wife goes away to visit her family
after xmas..

Thank **** I'm now mature enough to stay at home on the internet
and not go out to town getting into trouble night clubbing..

good .. I'm starting to yawn now...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 12:14 AM

Stuff insomniacs - we all seem to be asleep, or hibernating.   HALOOOO!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Slag
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 02:29 AM

And a HALOOOO to you too framus. There's an old joke among gearheads (car guys) about calibrating the framus and adjusting for skim, two meaningless phrases designed to expose newbies or phonies. Does that have anything to do with your handle? Lovely late night we're having over here. Just about 37 F with light breeze.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: framus
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 06:02 PM

You might get this tomorrow -next year? - sorry, I gave up.
I like (old) cars, but I play a Framus.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: CapriUni
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 02:45 AM

I've been getting emails from a family member saying she's worried about me, and she wants to call me on the phone. I've been waiting to hear her message on my phone machine, but she hasn't left any.

Tonight, just as I'm about to go to bed, I check my email one last time, just on a whim, instead of turning off the computer. She writes to say that if I don't answer the phone at two tomorrow, she will "have" to call the local police.

How am I supposed to sleep, now?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 01:03 PM

Well, I hope you got some sleep Capri Uni. Some time later, it's 4:02am in Sydney and i haven't slept yet. Will someone hit me over the head?

hopefully

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Mar 12 - 07:19 PM

12:15am in Kent UK, and about an hour and a half till I go to bed.

I sleep about five hours a night(used to be four when I was working, but I have an hour lay-in no I'm retired) and I'd rather sit up till 2:00am and wake at 7.00am than the alternative of being awake from 3:00am with nothing to do.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 28 Mar 12 - 02:25 PM

It's no problem sleeping, I could do that for England. I'd get a gold medal in the Olympics for it. The problem I'm having lately is terrible nightmares. I scream my head off and scare the life out of my poor husband. He's ever so good and soon comforts me, but whatever is causing this? I'm not on any medication, and eat the same things as usual. Last night, a black expressionless face hovered over me and I knew it was Death. A woman with scarlet lips accompanied it brandishing an enormous machete dripping with blood! Very Harry-Potterish eh? I don't watch horror films or read horror books. Am I going bonkers? (Answers on a postcard please...)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 07:59 AM

That's a tough one, Eliza, makes me feel better about the insomnia! I hope you've had a break the last couple of nights,

best wishes

freda

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 01:42 PM

Thank you very much freda, and I hope you can manage to sleep well for the next few nights. It must be awful lying awake hour after hour, tired but unable to get your rest. Best wishes to you, and kind regards from Eliza xx

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: kendall
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 04:26 PM

Hey you insomniacs, I just discovered a real sleep aid and it is OTC, no prescription. Melatonin. One tablet half an hour before bed time and I sleep like a log.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 03:08 AM

kendall, here in UK melatonin is only obtainable by prescription from a GP. People therefore buy it online. It isn't particularly harmful nor addictive. But buying medication online is very dodgy, as you can never be sure the tablets are what they're supposed to be. But I realise that folk desperate to sleep might be driven to such measures.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 03:52 AM

Melatonin gave my brother and I, both, horrible feelings and no sleep! YMMV!

My sleep has been pretty good since we got the bipap and tape on the mouth at night for sleep apnea figured out. Except tonight. Our washer didn't work right, the supposed to be clean sheets feel like cardboard and my kid is in hospital for the night with a possible reaction to BP meds, all of which is keeping Mom awake! It doesn't help that my Rog could fall asleep on a bed of nails in two seconds and never wake until the morning no matter what is going on!

Thanks for letting me stop by and for listening!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: freda underhill
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 08:17 AM

There's been a two year break in this thread, but the insomnia's still stalking. it helps to share solutions I think. I'm prepared to try Melatonin, it's available OTC (over the counter) here too (in Oz). I think Amos might have recommended it as well. I hope it helps (as it did for kendall) and that I don't have horrible feelings and no sleep with it. kat, tape [a different sort] reminded me that somewhere i have a hypnotic CD - I'll have to go searching for that one as well.

here's to a snooooozzze soon!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 24 Oct 14 - 03:47 AM

2nd night this week I am awake in the wee hours. Have to be somewhere 40 miles away in 4 hours.

To try to sleep a couple of hours or not?

You still up, Dan?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: olddude
Date: 24 Oct 14 - 11:09 PM

I never went to sleep Janie was up till sun came out. I never sleep anymore drives me crazy I don't know why

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 25 Oct 14 - 12:56 PM

My quack tells me it's a slowly rotting forebrain. Or hyperconbobulating circumlocutions to the same effect.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 14 - 12:59 PM

Valireum Root
Kava Kave
Holy Basil
St John's Wort
Chamamile
Passion Flower
Catnip

Read about the above.

No television

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: GUEST,Rahere
Date: 25 Oct 14 - 06:13 PM

Not a chance tonight, it's Diwali and London sounds like Kobane. Only thing missing's the USAF bombing...

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: olddude
Date: 25 Oct 14 - 06:19 PM

Sorry about that I understand it will be a long night for me also. I napped a bit today. A mistake now I will be up

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: olddude
Date: 26 Oct 14 - 12:19 AM

I give up on the whole idea of sleep

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: olddude
Date: 26 Oct 14 - 03:27 AM

430 am still up yup

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Janie
Date: 17 Dec 17 - 05:07 AM

I really don't want to still be awake at sunrise. That is when I need to be up. *sigh*

Subject: RE: Mudcat Insomniacs.....
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Dec 17 - 07:27 AM

I started gigging again recently, after years of retirement due to ill health.

All there time my health 'retired' me, I couldn't get out of living musician's hours. coming home from the gig. winding slowly down. reaching bed in the early hours. frequently around daybreak.

now I'm working - life feels natural again.