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German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: John Routledge Date: 04 May 01 - 06:27 PM Wolfgang - Are we getting a progress report 4 times a day.*BG* Have a wonderful time everyone and take care.GB |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 03 May 01 - 06:18 AM All the information is somewhere in the old threads, but not easy to find. So here you go, for the most vital details:
Who/Where:
When: Why: Ah, you should know that by now. Timetable: open to changes
- I'll be at home on Saturday, so come whenever you are there or feel like Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 29 Apr 01 - 05:48 AM This thread has become quite long. Please continue in new thread MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 28 Apr 01 - 05:42 PM 'ere, skip-bugger the cabin boy and jolly old Roger, or should that be roger old Jolly? Noreen-them socks had better be clean, we don't want the Dutch to think we are smuggling cheese!! And look out for seamen staines- Don't kiss the captains daughter!! There must be lots of seafaring stuff to keep us going until LLOD (last log on day) Thursday!! Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 28 Apr 01 - 03:17 PM That all you going for, Eric??? And a glimpse of my (illegally imported) sheepy socks? |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 28 Apr 01 - 01:42 PM So next saturday it will be 19.41 local time-will be shovelling food somewhere? It's getting closer. Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 28 Apr 01 - 01:15 PM Llanfair, we have an English shop in Kiel. Maybe they've got some Marmite in stock from before FMD struck. Should I ask them? I could also bring some Fray Bentos tinned pies, Heinz sandwich spread, Cadbury Easter eggs - anything else? (What they've run out of is Cheddar, to my chagrin.) See you all soon! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 28 Apr 01 - 09:38 AM 7 days from now! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 28 Apr 01 - 04:28 AM Ha!!!!! a marmite hater!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think there was a thread on this subject a while ago. Are you telling me that Marmite is UNAVAILABLE in Holland? What about Germany? And no, vegemite WON'T do!!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 27 Apr 01 - 09:06 PM Llanfair: the pure existance of this MARMITE stuff is reason enough for every sanction the Netherlands declare upon imports from the UK... how can you DARE even to think about the possibility of bringing this unholy potion to the mainland??? Beside, I will forever wonder what marmite includes. Only one thing is definite: goo of a very, very sick skunk is an essential part of it. hence the delicious taste. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 27 Apr 01 - 02:08 PM Just to let you know. I have had it confirmed by the Netherland office of tourism that the restrictions are true. No foodstuff or drink to be taken into Holland, not even, polo's or gum, oH dear!!!!! Mudguard, you are really confusing me and this will cause a problem!! When I am in Holland, I always ride on the cycle paths, How will Bill get his car on there, and Skipjack in his Italian stallion has an even bigger car-but it is not red. Did you see the local news in Yorkshire-The new ferry looks excellent, my wife is spitting teeth!!!!!!!!! She wanted to go on it and we are booked on the old one for our cycle trip in the summer. She nearly changed her mind and said I could'nt come. So I kissed her and she said I could go for a month to get out of her way.(only joking) This time next week,we shall be passing out of the lock gates and into the Humber on our way-YES YES!! Bye Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:16 PM I'll just head down the middle, Muds. It's an Italian car, therefore all rules are waived! Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 27 Apr 01 - 03:54 AM Hey, Llanfair, don't get involved in my "fight" with Noreen! ;-) Do you take the narrow-gauge train from Llanfair C. or do you go by car to Welshpool? To all the car drivers coming from England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland ...: don't forget to drive on the right side of the road when you leave boat in Rotterdam ;-) And on your return trip when leaving the boat in Hull, don't forget to switch back to driving on the wrong side of the road again ;-) 8 days and still counting (although I get almost too excited to get the numbers right!) MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 26 Apr 01 - 05:49 PM OK, Mudguard and Noreen, ENOUGH!!!!!!!! I'm travelling, by train from Powys, Wales, to Doncaster, Yorkshire. I am mostly English with Welsh ancestors, and that is about as clear as it gets!!!! Ach y fi!!!!!!! Eric, I suppose the restriction applies to Marmite and lettuce butties (a personal favourite) and Welshcakes? oh well, Im sure we won't starve, there's probably VERY expensive food on the ferry!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 26 Apr 01 - 04:16 PM I guess that means if it takes a little longer, and we have to eat the cabin boy, there's no doggy bags Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 26 Apr 01 - 04:15 PM I guess that means if it takes a little longer, and we have to eat the cabin boy, there's no doggy bags Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 26 Apr 01 - 04:05 PM NO FOOD OR DRINK! Thats exactly what I asked P&O who feel that the Dutch are being just a little bit too enthusiastic, we also have to drive through a disinfectant thing-what's on your feet(ie traces of mud or other substances) is irrelavent, unless we have to walk through something? I'm glad that we are not (my lot and I) on our bicycles for another 3 months, because we need to carry liquid with us for the kids. I am just repeating what I was told by P&O. NOTHING edable or drinkable, I personally feel it's a load of rubbish, as the virus can be carried on clothes and all sorts of other things from what I hear. How a bar of chocolate, a carton of drink, even a bottle of beer can carry it I don't know.Surely anything prepackaged at the point of origin must be safe. After all, there are container loads of stuff going through all the European ports every day. One good thing, they might disinfect melodians with a flamethrower-Ouch Pat, that hurt!! It applies to everyone who goes through the ports, so it's not anti UK, but heavy protection I guess. Just think this time tomorrow, and one week hence we'll be sailing out of the Humber and well on our way!!!! :-) :-) :-} |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:16 PM No portmanteau of comestibles, Greg... :0( |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:08 PM Oh all right then, MudGuard... anything for an easy life... :0) Eric- thanks for the warning- but I fail to see how a bar of chocolate or a pre-packed carton of fruit juice is going to import F&M into Holland! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 26 Apr 01 - 02:24 PM Noreen, Bron will travel from Llanfair Caereinion [I guess that's why her nickname is Llanfair], which is-- whatever the English say - in Wales! She will be going through Hull wherever that may be ;-) MudGuard (who does not give up easily) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 26 Apr 01 - 01:51 PM IMPORTANT This is for everyone travelling from the UK next weekend. Bill told me this last night and I have just rung P&O to confirm. You CANNOT take any, food or drink off the boat at Rotterdam. They mean ANYTHING. No chocolate, any drink, no sandwiches, tins of beans! chewing gum,NO FOODSTUFF at all. P&O say you can take what you like onto the boat, but thats as far as it gets. Dutch customs are thouroughly checking every vehicle and confiscating any food or drink they find. There is however a McDonalds**** about 6Km from the port and places on the way across to get stuff, if we can't wait until Germany. Sorry Noreen, no Eccles cakes! Greg-No grub!Bron-no cheese or veg sarnies etc. As for me-no chocolate-what a disaster!!!! I think there is no problem bringing back stuff and I didn't ask them about buying Cigs or stuff like that on the boat, so I don't know. I'll wait until we get there to buy any cigars or pipe tobacco and bring it back, but it does mean we'll have to be careful that we don't have anything with us that could cause a problem for the drivers. NOT LONG TO GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 26 Apr 01 - 10:51 AM I know now, where our best instrument shop is. I also know where the two records shops are that might be able to replace our only good shop. But perhaps they only have the fourth reunion CD of the Fureys and the seventh Dubliners celebration album. The old shop was at least so good to have the newest Waterson:Carthy CD. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 26 Apr 01 - 09:42 AM And also from the Port of Hull, which is in England, MudGuard (whatever the Yorkies might say)! Two can play at that game... :0) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 26 Apr 01 - 09:06 AM 9 days only! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 25 Apr 01 - 12:58 PM She'll be traveling through England... MudGuard (called Genaunehmer [which translates roughly to "Take-it-Exactly"] by his niece for some reason he can't understand) Btw, 10 days to go |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 25 Apr 01 - 09:54 AM Ah, but she will be travelling from England, so she may let him get away with it. :0) And I agree with MudGuard about the food! (Could be wurst...) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 25 Apr 01 - 08:12 AM I hope Llanfair won't kill bill\sables for mis-placing her as she lives in Wales, not England! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 25 Apr 01 - 04:23 AM Thanks for all the feedback so far. I'll be checking on the weekend places to eat and/or play and let you know on Monday. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: bill\sables Date: 24 Apr 01 - 07:25 PM Definates from England are Bill Sables, Eric The Viking, Patrish, Cobble, Skipjack, Noreen and Llanfair. We should be arriving around noon on Saturday and will be leaving around 1-00pm Sunday. Bill |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 24 Apr 01 - 10:55 AM Thanks, Wolfgang, I'll go for the floorspace if that's OK. I'd rather spend my Marks on good food, and I'd like to stay with the "in" crowd!! My passport arrived today. I was getting a bit anxious about it!! See you all soon. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 24 Apr 01 - 06:15 AM How should be the food: Cheap, much and good! MudGuard (who loves to eat as you can see when you see him) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 24 Apr 01 - 04:27 AM for opening hours: see Mudguard's post (downtown, you'll find shops open until 4pm on Saturdays, but not near my place (downtown is a 20 min walk) prices are similar to the Netherlands Bron, we'll find some place for you (in the worst case: in my sleeping bag on the floor). However, I could book a hotel for you (no B&B as you know them in Germany): roughly 100 DM for a night including breakfast would be my guess. Let me know if I should book. What will the neighbours say? Not much I guess, for we are usually rather quiet. As for Rainer and Gaby, immediately below us, I know which room they sleep in and we'll be in the most distant room in the flat. As for the others, Angelika is in principle a Mudcatter as well (though she posted only once with a special request) and James will be delighted to hear his native language spoken instead of that awful German. All others are too remote to care. Should the food when we go out rather be cheap or good??? Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 24 Apr 01 - 03:00 AM Of course I look forward to meeting everyone for the first time (except, as stated before, Llanfair, the only one of the lot I have already met). It's really exciting! In Germany, shops are allowed to open Monday to Friday 8:00 to 20:00 and Saturday 8:00 to 16:00. There are a few exceptions: bakers may open for three hours on Sundays, bakers and newsagents may open earlier in the morning (I think from 6:00 but I am not really sure about it), shops at filling stations, airports and train stations may sell "travel goods" around the clock. "travel goods" is interpreted very freely - it is no problem to get alcoholic drinks (bottled) at filling stations... 11 days till we meet! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:13 PM Yes, I will be joining you!Bill had to work hard to persuade me that I would enjoy myself, I wasn't too sure about that... *grin* Can't wait!!Now, when's that meeting with the bank mananger... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 23 Apr 01 - 06:02 PM Hi, Eric, I'm looking forward to seeing everyone again, too. Are you coming, Noreen? I do hope so. Mudguard, it will be good to see you again. When does our luxury liner get back to Hull? I need to sort out the train timetable, and I suspect there will be few trains on bank holiday monday!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: bill\sables Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:43 PM Noreen is coming!!! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:29 PM Hey Bron. You and me must have been messages that passed in the night. I'm looking forward to seeing you again. Noreen are you definately coming?-I'll try not to have a cold this time!!!! Sleeping arrangments? Am I ok for a bit of floor space for my sleeping bag?-I don't snore much. And one other question-How will your neighbours react with all of us around? Cheers. Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:24 PM Oh great,-this is holding my life together at the moment. I can't wait, even though it's really only an overnight stop for most of us Brits. please don't believe everything you see or hear or read about Brits being non European. Shame the shops shut on saturday afternoons, do the supermarkets stay open until later? No shops open at all on sunday? Are prices similar to those in the Netherlands? If so I am very familiar with them. STILL NEED PASSENGERS FOR SKIPJACKS CAR-not shouting really,just trying to help. See you very soon I make it 11 days tomorrow that we sail!!!!!!!! One question to anyone out there who is going. DO know where I can get "Gorilla snot"?(Sort of glue to hold picks still in between thumb and finger) My carpel tunnel problem in my right hand is causing me to loose grip on my picks. Cheers. Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:23 PM Bron, I am looking forward to meeting you again! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:16 PM I'm so excited!!! I haven't booked anywhere to sleep, yet, and I'd rather not carry a sleeping bag and stuff on the train to Yorkshire. Could someone in Muenster book me a low price b&b please? Or find me an otherwise unoccupied bed!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Letty Date: 23 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM Mudguard-- And some of the people from Germany aren't even German... Definitely a European meeting! I'm really looking forward to it. I still think it might be a good idea to pick a tune/song to learn in advance, esp. since we might be recording it for Mudcat radio. Letty |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Apr 01 - 08:36 AM Wolfgang, my train is supposed to reach Münster at 22:28 on Friday night. I will head straight to my cousin's place. Saturday morning I will spend with her or on my own, I will come to your place sometime between 14:00 and 15:30. MudGuard/Andreas |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 08:00 AM Susanne, I'll give you a knock (I go for the rolls from 7.30 on, depending on my daughters waking time, that's fine?). If you are not too late in Muenster at Friday night, ring the doorbell. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Lady McMoo Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:31 AM Dear Wolfgang, Clan McMoo(3)are definitely coming and we have booked accomodation already. We should be there by early afternoon on the 5th. Best regards, mcmoo |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:31 AM Individual feedbacks or questions: - the best record shop in town has closed 2 weeks ago. I have no idea yet which place has now anything close to folk music. I'll try to find out until then. (Susanne: Nottuln folkshop has only open the second Saturday in May, hasn't it, or do you think they'd make an exception for a bunch of folkies???) - There is a shop with music books downtown, not bad, but not specialised in folk - all shops for food or similar things (Eric: tobacco) are at walking distance from me (shops will close at about Saturday 2pm and be not open on Sunday) - Menzze: I can imagine how awful it is to take the wrong means of transport, for I'd hate to take the car for such a long distance. Give taking the train another thought. - directions where we are (if not at my place) will be pinned at my door, so any listeners from whereever should be able to find their way. - prices might be a bit cheaper than in Great Britain, but not much. - Eric: 500 g of coffee cost from 5 to 10 DM, with 8 DM being a good guess. BTW, do you really mean 'coke pipe tocacco' or am I misreading? Pipe tobacco varies a lot in prices, 10 to 15 DM for 100 g is my guess, but I'm a nonsmoker since 15 years. I've no idea about prices for chips (do you mean a deep frieds or in which state). - there is everything to drink at German pubs not just alcoholic drinks. - the British might consider buying the cheap Scottish malt whisies over here. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:09 AM for those coming from the North: Immeadiately after a level railway crossing turn right
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:04 AM DIRECTIONS if you come by train: Take either bus #2 or bus #10 just outside of the main entrance of the station (same side as the station, not opposite). Say 'Dechanei Strasse' to the driver and you'll get a ticket for a short ride. Leave at 'Dechanei Strasse' and Wiener Str. starts just at the opposite side of the street where you left the bus. You'll have a walk of 200 m. if you come by plane: At Muenster/Osnabrueck airport you'll take the bus to Muenster Main Station and once there you'll proceed as above.
if you come by car and come from the (South)West or South: in both cases at the Autobahn 'crossing' 'Münster Süd' you follow the sign to Muenster and drive straight on even if the Autobahn has finished. The street you'll drive in will be called 'Weseler Str.' and follow it all the time (signposts: 'Centrum') until you see at the left hand side a MacDonald's 'restaurant'. if you come by car and come from the North: you'll leave the Autobahn at 'Greven' (the sign directly at the exit says also 'M$uuml;nster Ost') and head for Muenster. The street is all way long 'Schiffahrter Damm' for about 12 km. You follow this street with all it's turns and when you reach Muenster you still drive on for another 2 km. Immediately after a level railway crossing (disregard all other railway crossings before like e.g. when you are on a bridge across the railway, wait for the level crossing). You'll be in 'Ostmark Str.' now and Wiener Str. will be the third street left.
MAPS: As for the general approach to Muenster look here As for an interactive street map click here. General timetable (open to suggestions):
Saturday, 5th of May, early afternoon: Meeting at Wiener Str. 24 Everthing else like shopping (Saturday morning, monday morning?), another walk (Sunday morning) will be organised on spot. I'd love to get more or less final feedback who is coming and when. As I said in another post, if you are already here on Friday night, don't hesitate to give me a call. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Apr 01 - 06:46 AM 12 days... if I look at the list of participants, I think we should rename this thread to "European Mudcatters get-together. 5 of 12 people come from England, 1 from Wales, 1 from Belgium and only 5 (less than half!) from Germany... About the same pictures in the "unsure" section, 4 of 9 Germans only... But then, the British speak of Europe as the continent, not including Britain and Ireland...
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 22 Apr 01 - 06:34 PM Oops - that should have read MUENSTER MUDCAT MAY-DAY GATHERING 5/6 May 2001 |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 22 Apr 01 - 06:21 PM MUNSTER MUDCAT MAY-DAY GATHERING 5/6 May 2001 The cast so far, updated from Wolfgang's summary above: - MudGuard (Andreas - Munich) - mcmoo, mrs mcmoo and possibly miss mcmoo (Belgium) - bill/sables (England) - Eric the Viking (England) - Cobble (England) - Patrish (England) - Skipjack (Greg - England) - Ranks (Dorsten) - Letty (Bochum) - Llanfair (Bron - Wales) - Wolfgang (Muenster) - Susanne (Kiel) Doubtful cases (those who can't say yet or haven't been heard of again since indicating they might like to come): - Schmiddi (Uwe - Karlsruhe) - ??? - Ernest (Berlin) - ??? - Noreen (England) - ??? - The Crazy Bird (Denmark) - ??? - menzze (Lake Constance) - ??? - George & Chris Hawes (Cambridge) - ??? - John C (Austria) - ??? - Ina (Passau) - ??? br> Please confirm / deny and add any other comments coming into your head ... :-) I'll be arriving some time Friday night / Saturday morning. Wolfgang, if you go for the rolls in the morning and find a middle-aged white Kadett Kombi with Kiel numberplates and a stout and rather dishevelled-looking middle-aged female hippie in a purple sleeping-bag inside parked outside your house - that's me. In that case, please give me a knock! BTW - I quite like the idea of a guided walk of Muenster on the Sunday morning (or Saturday afternoon)! I think I'll bring a few songbooks, just in case! CDs as well? If it's to be broadcast on Mudcat Radio we could sing some of the songs that have been lacking tunes so far in the DT. - Sorry, no, Rollo was going to bring the equipment. Greetings to Rollo, the Duck family, Les, Uilleand, Joe Offer and anybody else who has thought about joining us and is prevented by circumstances. We might start planning another Mudcat gathering for 2002 so that everybody gets ample warning! We could even suggest a special 'Folk on the Internet' event to the Rudolstadt Folk Festival organisers and get ourselves free access there. Would offset the cost of travelling to Thuringia somewhat ...
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