Wareham 2001

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 05:25 AM

Thanks for the guidance Noreen - finally managed to get at them! Great photos too!
"The stewart hath provided this in honour of the King of Bliss ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: GUEST,X-singer
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 04:04 PM

I don't suppose if anyone who atteneded the Wail this year knows if a certain Debbie Grime was in attendance, or if anyone knows where she has burried herself??

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 02:48 PM

Morty/Alan, 'Resources' is now renamed Member photos & info ->photos ->events but because I'm a helpful soul, click here to see the evidence.

Noreen

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 12:42 PM

Yes - that was Herga Kitty's medieval Tesco's Carrier bag - although at least a couple of those medieval bottles of Barramundi were mine, with the emphasis on were Jude

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: GUEST,NicP at work
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 12:14 PM

Deni- Myself, Tanya and Rebekah ( currently aged 15 months) spent a very enjoyable weekend or so at the Wail, and found no problems at all in "coping" with a child over the time. The major problem, if it is one, with the banquet is that it usually carries on until 3 or 4 a.m., which some might consider a tad too late for those who are annually challenged. Give Alan a call and see what he suggests. Nic

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Morticia
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 11:19 AM

Alan, if you go to Resources ( Quick LInks at top of page) and then to Mudcatter pictures, they are in Events.I got a glimpse of your appendage.....my, that must have been some shish kebab!I am now on the mailing list and will be present for the jollification next year.

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 11:14 AM

How does one get to see the pix, Jude?
"We're climbing up the sunshine mountain ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 10:25 AM

Good piccies, Jude! Love the costumes, and the medieval Tesco carrier bag...

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 10:20 AM

Having just looked through the pix again I realise that I didn't scan in one of Alan waving his five foot appendage around in the air - you get to see all of it! Must get round to finishing off the other film so I can see what develops
Jude

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 05:21 AM

I'm sure that you would enjoy yourself, Morticia! I'm already looking forward to having you pay some detailed attention to my 5 foot weapon!
Email Alan White at [e-mail] to get on the mailing list for next year.
"It is time to go now ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Morticia
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 08:32 PM

Hellfire Noreen, I'm only 5'& 1/2"( that half is very important).How do you think a girl's head is going to be turned by 5'?

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 07:40 PM

I would hope to get in on the action in my home county again.... wonder who I can bum a bed from......

LTS

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Noreen
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 06:57 PM

Watch out, Alan... Mortee's up for it... ! *grin*

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Morticia
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 06:18 PM

Okay, I am way up for this next year ( Alan's 5 foot appendage and pig-napping having swung the deal).How do I sign up?

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 03:55 PM

Have just sent pene azul some photos of the banquet at the Wail for him to post up in the events section. Lady P nice to see you even if it was for such a short time - sorry you had to go home early and miss the banquet complete with the peasant revolt, pigs head napping and alan's 5ft weapon - but look forward to next year.
Jude

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: lady penelope
Date: 09 Sep 01 - 02:41 PM

Although I only managed Friday night ( due to very bad stomache cramps ) I still enjoyed myself and was utterly astonished at :

A) How much noise approximately 50 people can make.

B) How far you have to pitch tent away from the marquees to stop your eardrums from melting ( Bob DID warn me! )

C) How many of you sang constantly till at least 4 in the morning!!! Mind you it did keep me entertained on my trips to the bog.

Every one was so friendly and it was such a good evening I shall most deffinately be back next year!!! ( With immodium if necessary!!!!)

TTFN M'Lady P.

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 05:01 AM

AlanWW -that's what we call 'em up in Yorkshire -don't shatter me dreams!

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 03:28 AM

One detail of the boar's head pignapping that you MBS appear to have forgotten - you refused to exchange prisoners (something they said they are not going to let drop) - between that and the "bring your own pig" line on the fines list has started a war!

The Wareham Hostage - who's been informed that until suitable reparation has been made does not belong to MBS!

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Deni
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 12:38 AM

Anotehr triumph for Alan. Well done. I'll come next year if I can find something to do with the kids. It sounds brilliant.

I'd like to organise a banquet down in Plymouth, for our folk club and other interested persons, so if you have any tips...anyone?

Cheers deni

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Deni
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 12:38 AM

Anotehr triumph for Alan. Well done. I'll come next year if I can find something to do with the kids. It sounds brilliant.

I'd like to organise a banquet down in Plymouth, for our folk club and other interested persons, so if you have any tips...anyone?

Cheers deni

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 07:08 PM

Now I DO wish I'd been there.... *grin*

I like to rise when the sun she rises...

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 07:07 PM

The singing was great. The banquet (and associated Peasants' Revolt / boarshead pignapping)was wonderful. Alan White was worrying that the fall in numbers (due to FMD and various other unforeseen events) might make another Wail unviable, so can everyone please reassure him that they will be coming next year.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 06:33 PM

Yes, Ickle Dorritt ... but see my posting on 28 Aug!
"Come Mr Tally man, tally my banana ... !"
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 06:03 PM

Alan has a five foot appendage????????

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: vectis
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 04:48 PM

Smashing weekend. Good sings. Good company. Good ale. Lovely times just chilling out. See you all next year.
Loved the five foot appendage Alan, you really know how to swing it about don't you?

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 01:28 PM

Only cos you fell asleep! I never knew someone could snore sitting up!

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 12:41 PM

It was yummy! (But I drew the line at the brain and the eyes, if you noticed!)
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 12:21 PM

Talking of things revolting, I know you said you were hungry at about 5 in the morning but did you have to start eating the boar's head!
Jude

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:56 AM

Brilliant weekend as usual. The Saturday nights sing in the top tent was excellent, everything from bawdy to balladry, serious to silly. We even disobeyed the non-existant rules and sung some choruses again. Thanks to everyone who gave their support. Sunday we complained (jokingly of course) to Alan White that the Middle Bar had been heard singing 'quiet' songs, and that at times the bottom tent had almost sounded organised! Next year, it will be their turn to dream up a ludicrous complaint about the rest of us.

The peasants revolt during the mediaeval banquet was a Wareham 'first'. Wonderful! Below the salt? The buggers should have been the other side of the river!

Cheers!

Brian

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:12 AM

And cheers to you my dear mate Cllr Mike! See you at the Middle Bar Reunion!
"I like to rise when the sun she rises ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Cllr
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:03 AM

Wareham was great this year as usual. Alanww It was an absolute pleasure singing the dawn in with you Sunday morning we certainly " drank the moon to bed and sang the sun into the sky" Cheers!

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 05:54 AM

PS I meant to say "Thanks to Alan White", of course! That rum must have muddled my head! Sorry to both Alan White (Wareham Wail) and Tony Day (Sidmouth Middle Bar Singers)!

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 05:53 AM

Oooh spiced rum. Now I really regret not being there.
Am planning to go next year though - probably with Hammerite for moral support (Mark is all folked out & can't contemplate the idea at present).

Kris

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: alanww
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 05:13 AM

Super weekend - apart from my cracked rib!
At the banquet the peasants certainly were revolting! Also, having been helped by a number of people, my bottles of Navy Rum and Spiced Rum seem to have evaporated! We must have enjoyed ourselves! The singing was good too! Thank you Alan Day.
"The boar's head in hand , bear I ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:01 PM

Sorry if it sounded as if I was having a go at anyone - it wasn't intended. Actually, Shambles, Alan did say he might make concessions for instruments in some cases (this particular case was my ex's Hiscock which contained a Lowden guitar, which Mick played in an extremely accomplished fashion without ever using a capo)- but if you're not really into unaccompanied singing you might not get the most out of a very nice singing weekend. Brian, yes I suspect I did sing a few choruses in the top marquee last year, and even worse, I sang Helen Akitt's "Tears of the Rain" at the end of the Saturday lunchtime session and prompted an immediate downpour. And you're spot on about making it up as you go along - people will sing whatever seems right at the time wherever they are.

See you tomorrow - Kitty

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Deni
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 01:07 PM

Oh well. Maybe one day. Thanks for bothering with the info Brian. Sounds right up my alley. cheers Deni

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:54 AM

Deni. Wareham Wail does not provide any entertainment, or supervision for children (or anyone else). It is a singing festival, as Kitty said 'a celebration of unaccompanied singing'. The banquet is not suitable for children because it starts at approx midnight, long after the little dears (and my) bedtime. It's entertainment content, like the rest of the weekend, is a matter of what happens at the time. Generally speaking, people do not take their children to WW (us included) because it doesn't have the 'feel' of a childrens weekend. As far as I am aware, there is no ban on children, but it very much a no frills weekend, very basic.

Kitty, I wasn't getting at you. Particularly over the last year, there has been a growing myth about the defined roles of each of the venues. I was just pointing out that nobody actually imposes such rules. You were quoting Alan's leaflet, I was quoting Alan. All he wants is for all the venues to work well, in whatever format. We have tried to treat it as part of our job to encourage people to sing what they want to sing, not worry about having the right song for a particular venue. Last year, we had someone actually complain that people had been singing chorus songs in the top tent - shock! horror! how dare they? What are we supposed to do, throw them out as soon as the first verse is over, or gag the rest of the 'audience' to stop them from joining in? I don't feel it is in anyones interest for such myths to get etched into the mental granite. It's an easy going weekend, I hope it stays that way.

I know you came to the top tent last year, we were pilotting the session at the time and were very pleased to see you. If I remember rightly, you were one of those dreadful people who sang a chorus song (or two) in there. Me too! Hopefully, we'll both be in there causing just as much trouble again this year, too.

See you there

Brian

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Deni
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:33 AM

Hi All.. Has anyone experience of what Wareham is like if you have children? it says on the leaflet that the banquet is not suitable. does that mean the food or the entertainment or what? are they allowed in,if they've been fed or is it just a Parental Guidance thing. It sounds ideal in some respects, being on one site etc... I hate to keep them away, as they are starting to want to follow folk music and play and sing themselves. Please share your experiences with someone who finds kids and festivals sometimes, but not always mix.

Cheers Deni

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Cllr
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:19 AM

I don't presume to speak on behalf of the organisers but the point is that "the wail" is primarily an unacompanied festival, having said that a few people have been known to take an instrument to accompany themselves. (whether or not they get special permission from Alan White I don't know) but there are certainly no instrumental spots or tunes in the sing arounds only the very occasional self accompanied spot. I can't see anyone using an instrument in the middle bar marquee as that has always been strictly voice only in Sidmouth.

Shambles you could check by getting in touch with Alan on [e-mail] (if you are attending I think you have to get your ticket in advance or at least reserve it) or you could take your instrument and leave it in the car if that was appropriate. I would hate to discourage anyone's attendence for what is a fantastic singing weekend and I would not presume on behalf of Alan to say what is allowed or isn't.

Cllr

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: The Shambles
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 02:27 AM

I only asked?

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 07:36 PM

Shambles - I think you might be missing the point. It's not a question of being "brave" - the Wareham Wail is a celebration of unaccompanied singing, so if that's not your thing you go somewhere else. A lot of the people who go to Wareham play instruments but not at the Wail. If you don't respect or feel comfortable with, what the weekend's for, don't go. The rest of us will have a wonderful time.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: The Shambles
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 06:23 PM

Are some people brave enough to turn up with 'instruments'.......other than just ones voice?

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 02:46 PM

Brian

I was just quoting from Alan's leaflet! I agree that the reality is different. Last year there was an excellent and unraucous singaround in the supposedly rowdy tent on the Saturday evening. I'd already been to 2 sessions in the "quiet" tent on Friday evening and Saturday lunchtime. There were fewer people, so we got to sing more often!

I agree with Jude about the beer too - doesn't matter which tent you're in.....

It's a pity the Wail always seems to clash with Fylde.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: running.hare
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 01:36 PM

It Sounds great, but unfortunatly It's a bit late notice, so i don't think i can get organised for this year!

I look forward to hearing all about it,

& will look out for it next year. (btw, is it always the 1st weekend in September? If so I'll keep it free ;¬) )

Jude, thx for the previouse topic ref.

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: GUEST,Brian
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 09:03 AM

We'll be there. As already said in the previous postings, for anybody looking for a good singing weekend, this is it.

The only thing I will disagree with, is the myth that is growing up about the type of sing that is supposedly in each of the tents. The Middle Bar is the Anchor on an away weekend by encouragement, and a shanty group may run chose to run a shanty session, but other than that the sessions take on the character that those attending create. There is definitely not a 'quiet' tent.

Over the last two years, her ladyship and I have run most of the sessions in the top tent. It's run as an orderly session to give everybody a fair opportunity, but we have never been given any instructions about the type of session we should be running, or do we set any rules. What gets sung is the choice of the individual singers. It's only a quiet singaroung if the people attending chose to sing quiet songs. Personnally, I think it's the best and most varied session at the festival, with a mixture of raucous and quiet, serious and (extremely) silly. But I'm biased, and don't get much chance to see very much of what is going on elsewhere.

We don't yet know what we'll be assigned to do at this years festival. If we're running a session anywhere, please feel free to drop in and sing whatever you like. We might even allow you to buy us a pint!

All the best, see you there.

Brian

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 06:35 AM

Lizabee: for more info see the previous thread from about 2 months ago, "Help: Wareham Wail" (I'd do a blue clicky thing but I've still not worked out how) Jude

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: JudeL
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 06:02 AM

I'll be there, & will be doing the buxom serving wench look Saturday Night. Wareham Wail is run by Alan White with assorted friends and family. This Wareham is near Bournemouth & Poole - and if you like well kept real ale your tastebuds are in for a treat!

Come fill up your glasses & let us be merry .... Jude

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 06:50 PM

Shame it clashes with Fylde, I'd love to be there. Maybe next year?

Noreen

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: vindelis
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 06:26 PM

First I've heard of it. It sounds like a resurrection of the old Wareham Folk Harvest of eons ago; if so it should be a really good event.

Subject: RE: Wareham 2001
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 06:24 PM

The Wareham Wail is just outside Wareham (towards Worgret), but there is no admission on the door, so if you want to go, e-mail [e-mail] now. It's a non-profit-making weekend of unaccompanied singing in 3 marquees (a bar in each)in a field. There are no organised events - people just sing, but there are 3 marquees to sing in, depending on whether you want a quiet singaround,a boisterous jump in and grab a shanty or chorus song, or the Middle Bar, the Anchor, Sidmouth, translated to Dorset. Any profit made is eaten at the banquet on Saturday night/ Sunday morning. It's all about having a great time singing and not feeling guilty about not going off to hear someone performing at an event. If you want a costume for the mediaeval banquet, there's a costume making workshop on Saturday afternooon. The ticket for the singing weekend costs £15 but another £9 will buy you meals too.

See you there - Kitty